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I am offering once again open membership to all communist/socialist nations into The International. This is an organization of active communist/socialist nations who work together. We help each other in defense and in growth of our nations, economies, and our ideas...

If any nation wishes to join go to the following link and please post what is asked of you to post. You will be notified on the forum within 24 to 48 hours(all depending on the votes of exsisting members) All nations that are socialist/communist young are old are allowed to ask for acceptance into The International!

http://s4.invisionfree.com/The_International/index.php?showtopic=11

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I will look into it, thanks for the link.

I am offering once again open membership to all communist/socialist nations into The International. This is an organization of active communist/socialist nations who work together.

I'm curious, do you allow Dictatorships into your organisation? Because it's hard to tell if Iuthia could be defined as a "socialist/communist" nation.

We allow our peolpe many freedoms, with the exception of a democratic approach... the peolpe don't know how to run a nation, they do not have any experience in such things.

Meanwhile we see that the society is important and we invest in it to better our people... the UN hasn't labeled Iuthia as either "Socialist" or "Communist" so how do you define such nations?

Further more, what sorts of nation do you not allow into your organisation?

Personally I prefer to ally with a nation on it's merits, capitalist or otherwise... providing they have a good moral standard and they are helpful towards my nation I don't mind.


Ohwell, thanks for listening.

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Lord General deGritz, leader of the Iuthian people.
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I was deleted from teh forum due to inactivity or mainly because I was so-called not a member. I''m not a freakin'' spy, and don't intend to be. If I am considered such, why should I rejoin?

NR, were you blackbird!?!?

We had no idea who you were...and someone made a post asking you what country you were...but when we got no reply you got deleted. From our perspective, you could have been anyone.

I for one am very sorry for the mistake. Please rejoin, and use your nation name as your login to avoid any future confusion. You will certainly be a valued member. Once again, we're very sorry!

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With regard to Iuthia, I think your nation can be allowed into the International, at the very least as an observer nation/dialogue partner.

ANL, please do look into it. We would love to have your company.

I need the link again, just TeleGram me it and I'll rejoin......

With regard to Iuthia, I think your nation can be allowed into the International, at the very least as an observer nation/dialogue partner.

Actually I was generally just wondering about how you guys think and whether the organisation was "One Dimensional" in it's view of politics.

I may be interested in being an "Observer" depending on what it means, I would like to be able to see what good this organisation does, to varify that it isn't just another alliance for people to to run around with a hammer and sickle shouting "ARRGGG MOTHERLAND!!" in a comical mock Russian fashion...

I like real communists because they avoid the cliches. They are actually democratic, which while I'm not really keen on the idea I do like to see a system sticking to it's roots, and all communist nations should be Democratic because that is part of the package.

So it depends on what your organisation would demand of me and who I would be allied to... personally I'd prefer not to be tied down, instead I'd like to observe the organisation and provide some form of indepentant watcher to tell others that you are not a "commie" organisation*, but a well thought out organisation with Communist/Socialist ideals.


* Note the use of the word "commie" is refering to the cliched version of the Communist Nation that tries to copy the Stalin style of Russia which isn't really communism, just a Dictatorship pretending it's not a Dictatorship.

I am allied with many real Communist nations, my best ally of them all being Edolia, who has even allowed a Iuthian military base with their nation.

I rejoined as Nodea Rudav, don't delete me. I wasn't blackbird, I was Apocalypse Hawk. I am insulted, but not offended. Please never do that again. Thank you.

We are real communists and do not follow the stereotypical communism that western citizens interpret as being the only way. We are an anti-stalinist coalition of nations. We help our people, not oppress them. Our main purpose is to stand united with our ideology and help out member nations if needed.

As for being "one dimensional", well naturally, being the "Communist International", we do not let capitalist nations join...however...I dont mind at all if any want to visit as long as they behave appropriately (eg. do not spam, or generally be lame.) Are you OK with this CL?

We determine what nations can join on an individual basis. "Corporate Police State" and "Psychotic Dictatorship" nations are naturally not permitted, for example.

Come along and visit, if you like.

I rejoined as Nodea Rudav, don't delete me. I wasn't blackbird, I was Apocalypse Hawk. I am insulted, but not offended. Please never do that again. Thank you.

It won't happen again. I'm not sure who actually deleted you, but it wasn't me.

To all other nations wishing to join: Please use your country name to avoid confusion. Thankyou :)

BTW, I am Not a Communist Nation, Just a Socialist Union of Four States in a Socialist Democracy that Respects all Other International Nations as Comrade Brethren.

Thank You Again.

As for being "one dimensional", well naturally, being the "Communist International", we do not let capitalist nations join...however...

Actually, I was refering to the idea that it seems you have only covered one dimension of politics in your requirement. The one dimension being either Socialist or Capitalist... as I've found in many situations, politics isn't as simple as "they are right wing"...

However, I guess you wanted it to be pretty simple.

ANL I would love for you to join comrade.

As for Iuthia, he has offeneded my people and my nation before. I would like for him first to only observe the meetings and what not. Then if we fill, he will be allowed to join on a more perminate bases.

Other than that, DOES ANYONE KNOW WHO THE HELL BLACKBIRD WAS!?!
I think he was a spy.

Link-wont-work...

I'll join asap if accepted though........ :)

As for Iuthia, he has offeneded my people and my nation before. I would like for him first to only observe the meetings and what not. Then if we fill, he will be allowed to join on a more perminate bases.

Well, in all truth I liked what Lietuveska had to say as most of his message supported peace and non-proliferation of Nuclear Weapons... I didn't go out of my way to piss you off, on the contary I went out of my way to make friends with what to seems to be a nation following the kind of ideals I like, I respect a nation that spends most of its time persuing a message of peace... you guys just take offence real easily and could provide a good enough agruement to counter his own.

I'm not really looking to join, I don't want to be tied down to another alliance, especially if it may end up allying me with nations I have blacklisted (such as Fedral Union). What I am interested in is a political link that allows me to communicate openly with your organisation and maybe to work out our differences and form some kind of conditional non-agression pact to promote peace.


However, if you want to judge me on my support for communists like Lietuveska, Edolia and Zvarinograd (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=124876&highlight=) then that is your own problem. I don't need this as such, I would prefer it.

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Lord General deGritz, leader of the Iuthian people.
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Recent News in Iuthia (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=83886&highlight=)
OOC Information on Iuthia (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=109898&highlight=)

BTW, I am Not a Communist Nation, Just a Socialist Union of Four States in a Socialist Democracy that Respects all Other International Nations as Comrade Brethren.

Thank You Again.

Thats fine with me. You are fighting for the rights of workers nonetheless.

Actually, I was refering to the idea that it seems you have only covered one dimension of politics in your requirement. The one dimension being either Socialist or Capitalist... as I've found in many situations, politics isn't as simple as "they are right wing"...

True. Left/Right, Libertarian/Authoritarian. For this reason, we look at nations on an individual basis...each nation has a different way of interpreting an ideology. If a nation claims to be socialist, and has the UN category of "Inoffensive centrist democracy" then they could very well be simply following their own interpretation of socialism. Look at my nation: "Scandinavian Liberal Paradise". We might also accept "Father Knows Best" States, provided that they have a decent civil rights level and are not semi-stalinist regimes.

Link-wont-work...

I'll join asap if accepted though........ :)

Im sure you would be a valued member :D (bit worried about your flag though lol)

Also Iuthia, Kanabia itself follows a pacifistic policy. We have only ever been involved in one military engagement in the history of our state as an independent nation, and we were not the aggressors. We have no nuclear program. The reason i got involved with Lietuveska, is that we got attacked as a "Coalition of Dull Minded Nations" and got labeled as a Stalinist state, Which the Kanabian people, being proud of their educational system and democratic system of government, took offence to. While we do not ourselves support Communist Louisiana's nuclear program, we recognise that it is not our right to intervene in it, and respect the ability of the leaders of leaders of CL to make decisions for their nation

Even if you are unwilling to join the International, a diplomatic link to promote peace, I believe would be excellent. If you would contact your allies, I am absolutely certain that we can set aside any differences that we have made in the past.

I am sure that all members of the International would agree with me there.

ANL I would love for you to join comrade.

Well, just to let the world know, I have indeed joined the International. Glory to the people!

First off, I'd like to express my gratitude that there are still people new to this site that are not morons and that can reason and discuss things reasonably. Congratulations, you've invested new hope in me for the future of NS.

Second of all, as a Socialist nation -- not in the least Stalinist or autocratic, by the way -- I am interested in this "Communist International" organization, and it does not seem aggressively opposed to capitalists, which is always a plus, as opposed to being dragged into the next World War every few days. Take a look at my nation, tell me if you need to know anything else, and tell me if you'll accept me, as I hope you will.

Cyberutopia, for some unknown reason I like you. You stand for things and you believe in The International. (I actually stole the idea from the former Soviet Union and their version called the International shortened and known round world as "The Comintern"

I will personally look into it that you will be accepted.



Premier DuFour
Peoples President of Communist Louisiana

Well thank you. :)

I have aplied, but I can't post in the

Nations wishing to join The International

Topic.

Just so you know.

Brothers, Comrades! As you speak of an internation al we work to restablish the USSR. In the region of Northern Neo Siberia, we have began to form a communist union, to show the capitalists that our dream does not die, but rises as pheonix from the ashes. We must unite, as one body, one unified force, one Union, to show the worlkd that the ideals of Marx are born again, to create a utopia for man!
Marc De Drakan
Chairman of the USSC
Advisor to Neo USSR, Chairman of the USSR

Due to new situations arrising we will not apply for membership on the boards so we may observe the process. Sorry to have bothered you but we do not want any part of this.