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Chemical weapons / gay spray system perfected.

Knootoss
20-02-2004, 17:58
Project CH064 status report. 11th of January 20xx

Project Summary
The ‘gay pray’ CH064 non-lethal chemical agent and the LoveBringer delivery system were developed after a test version had originally been used against a small nation harassing and killing minorities This weapons has been secretly developed and perfected for years. Budget cuts had caused the project to go on hold but now the chemical agent is working at optimum efficiency and production of large quantities is a possibility..
The LoveBringer delivery system has been adapted from mid-range nuclear delivery systems to carry the agent to its destination and allow for efficient release. A ‘bunker buster’ modification is in the final stages of development.

’Gay Spray’ chemical effects
The agent has been designed to release multiple substances into the atmosphere to create the desired arousing effect.
-Stimulate hormonal production to abnormal levels. (800% above normal at nominal absorption of the agent) The agent will act as an extreme aphrodisiac
-The agent also contains several synthetic hallucinogenic (consciousness-enhancing) substances (LSD++) designed to induce strong trips.
Arousing an hallucinogenic agents are designed to enhance each others effect, as has been successfully tested on animals.

The effects of the weapon manifests itself within hours, rather than days as with biological weapons. Side-effects may include coughing, difficulty in breathing, increased sweating, nausea, and muscular twitching-

Predicted effects:
Contrary to what the name may suggest, this updated version of the arousing agent does not just effect homosexuals, and neither does it change sexual orientation. The name is still applicable because in militaries with only men serving the agent may very well produce such temporary effects. The agent effects both men and women, though human males are more strongly effected then females.

A slightly pinkish cloud will envelop the area, making the use of the weapon clearly visible to friendlies and hostiles alike.

Successful deployment can incapacitate personnel or to deny access or use of area, facilities and materials. As stated, the agent is effective within hours, but it does not last as long as bioweapons.
Except with indoor use where thousands of fatalities can result from a single attack, large quantities (thousands of kilogrammes) are needed to produce high numbers of fatalities. Outdoor use fatalities are likely to be in the hundreds.
These two factors make the weapon more useful for tactical, rather then strategic use.

Ministerie van Buitenlandse Zaken en Defensie
Luctor et Emergo

((OOC: basically I have had ‘gay spray’ for months but with the chance of me going to war increasing its only fair that I publish a bit about my systems. Comments welcome.))
Jeruselem
20-02-2004, 18:04
No leaks in the production facility? I hope not. :)
Knootoss
20-02-2004, 18:25
Jerusalem: not untill now :wink:
20-02-2004, 18:37
Interesting idea. but you must consider a few other aspects. Will it just apply to a certain area, or world wide? Will you use it as a weapon in war? If so, do your scientists have any ideas for targetting and just afflicting upon one group? My nation's top researchers are hot on the proposal and are willing to aid in your discoveries if needed.

-Premier of Tsarskya
Wazzu
20-02-2004, 18:41
OOC: ROFL! I love it!

But what do you mean, "fatalities"? Does this represent the chance of overdose resulting in death? Or does it refer to those who fall to the intended effect of the drug?
Terraus
20-02-2004, 18:51
OOC: Wazzu: I imagine those with heart problems or certain other medical conditions may not survive...
Wazzu
20-02-2004, 18:52
OOC: Wazzu: I imagine those with heart problems or certain other medical conditions may not survive...

OOC: Perhaps not, but that doesn't answer the question. I think only Knoot will be able to.
Thelas
20-02-2004, 18:53
OOC: I am very thankfull that Thelasi combat personell wear hermeticaly sealed suits... with filtration units.
Knootoss
20-02-2004, 20:15
In answer to Wazzu's question: yes, by fatalities I mean subjects to the weapons effects. Perhaps it is a bit too morbid.
However Terraus does make a good point: the side-effects do exist as it is still a chemical weapon. The faint of heart may not survive. There may be a risk of overdose, but you'd have to stand hoviering above the location where it exploded and breath in deeply. If someone is that stupid I'd call it natural selection.

Still, it is a non-lethal weapon. Rubber bullets van also kill, its just not very likely. Besides, it will be deployed against military units which (hopefully) consists mostly of young and healthy people, not elderly men with heartproblems.

Thelas: Do your soldiers wear those things 24 hours a day?
Knootoss
20-02-2004, 21:41
BUMP
Mercenary Soldiers
21-02-2004, 01:35
OOC: 'Gay-Spray'? Sounds like a bad homo porno flick...

I was a bit confused... is it actually a bio weapon? If so, then how does it kill people? So far it just looks like uber-Viagra.
Steel Butterfly
21-02-2004, 01:40
OOC: 'Gay-Spray'? Sounds like a bad homo porno flick...

I was a bit confused... is it actually a bio weapon? If so, then how does it kill people? So far it just looks like uber-Viagra.

Massive, Nation-Wide Rape Impulse?

Uncontrolled AIDS Epidemic?
21-02-2004, 01:43
[Offical Announcement from the President of the United States]

"My Fellow Americans, today the wonderful Dutch people under the rule of Knootoss announced the creation of a new weapon "Gay-Spray". As the President of the United States, I will aask of the Dutch Government to aide us in our new program. "The Stop Terrorism with Flowers, and Music, and Non-Homosexual Brotherly Love or (STFMNHBL). What thsi has to do with Gay-Spray I have no idea but I will have an answer soon, just after I figure out just how to execute Anne Coulter...

Thank you One and All."


President Michael Moore
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:oXT4O98XurMJ:www.pressmaterial.se/ordfront/forfattare/images/michael-moore_003.jpg
The People’s Republic of Michael Moore America
Central Facehuggeria
21-02-2004, 01:46
Are you selling small amounts of the substance for personal use?
Iansisle
21-02-2004, 01:50
Still, it is a non-lethal weapon

If so, then how does it kill people?

:roll:
Resistencia
21-02-2004, 01:50
Would this be considered a WMD. because it has potential to wreak horrible devastation on a country, however, it does not directly kill anyone. I also have a second question. How long would this gas incapacitate the target region?


Secretary of War,
United Socialist States of Resistencia
Knootoss
21-02-2004, 13:36
OOC: 'Gay-Spray'? Sounds like a bad homo porno flick...

I was a bit confused... is it actually a bio weapon? If so, then how does it kill people? So far it just looks like uber-Viagra.

Massive, Nation-Wide Rape Impulse?

Uncontrolled AIDS Epidemic?

OOC: Mercenary Soldiers:
Well, first off it is not a bio (biological) weapon but a chemical weapon. The effects come faster, but they also do not last as long like bioweapons. It is also carried by wind, and perhaps it also sticks in clothing like with the gasses used in WWI. It is not contagious like a disease.
Also, as Ians' :roll: indicated, it is non-lethal.

[Offical Announcement from the President of the United States]

"My Fellow Americans, today the wonderful Dutch people under the rule of Knootoss announced the creation of a new weapon "Gay-Spray". As the President of the United States, I will aask of the Dutch Government to aide us in our new program. "The Stop Terrorism with Flowers, and Music, and Non-Homosexual Brotherly Love or (STFMNHBL). What thsi has to do with Gay-Spray I have no idea but I will have an answer soon, just after I figure out just how to execute Anne Coulter...

Thank you One and All."


President Michael Moore
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:oXT4O98XurMJ:www.pressmaterial.se/ordfront/forfattare/images/michael-moore_003.jpg
The People’s Republic of Michael Moore America
(still OOC) lol... this is actually nice but unfortunately this is a secret document so you really cannot know. I'd be interested in the programme though. :P

Would this be considered a WMD. because it has potential to wreak horrible devastation on a country, however, it does not directly kill anyone. I also have a second question. How long would this gas incapacitate the target region?


Secretary of War,
United Socialist States of Resistencia

OOC: well, again, it is still secret but I will answer your question nevertheless. At some point this will become public and I will consider the question to be asked at that point. ;).

It is most certainly not a WMD. I think I can attribute some of the confusion to the NCB-weapon paranoia spread by a certain US administration.
Chemical weapons, contrary to (longlasting, contagious) biological or nuclear (big boom, radiation) weapons only have a short-ranged effect that doesn't last as long.

Chemical weapons were kind of banned after the first world war because they still had horrible effects in the trenches, with a LOT of men packed together. Also these gases blinded men, for example.
They are mostly effective against concentrated elements of troops, and even more effective inside. Say, an enemy base at night. (Or a subway station in the terrorist version)

Saddam gassed a village, but it is impossible to use against an entire nation, let alone a region. Yes, you can systematically nuke a certain area of land but it would be impossible to do that with chemical weapons. It is, like, a gas.

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How long it would incapacitate a region, uhm, very good question. I am not a chemist really, and this weapon is customdesigned. However with the specialist in this field, RecDrug in our nation I can imagine there is quite a bit of expertise. Also considering that it should be profitable to make the weapon I'd say reasonably long.
Compare it to WWI gasses, only a little longer due to technological progress: the immediate effect would be devestating, rendering troops completely ineffective to fight for a day, maybe a couple of days. After that there would be aftereffects that make troops "less-capable" due to concentration problems. :P

I would VERY much like to get some advice on how long it would last though.
Iuthia
21-02-2004, 13:44
((OOC: basically I have had ‘gay spray’ for months but with the chance of me going to war increasing its only fair that I publish a bit about my systems. Comments welcome.))

OOC: Concidering one of the wars I'm currently in I would be interested in this substance if we knew about... if only because of the subject matter of both the war and this substance...

It could be rather funny to drop a load of this onto the nation that nuked the president of another nation because the president introduced gay rights...

*cough*

Ignore me, I have a somewhat twisted mind.
Knootoss
21-02-2004, 13:47
OOC:
Iuthia: that is why it was originally concieved. Some n00b was systematically killing his gay population. I gassed his government centre. It isn't as twisted as you'd think. Its sweet irony. URL?
Iuthia
21-02-2004, 14:06
OOC: Its sweet irony. URL?

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=125193

OOC: I should of guessed.

The above is a war in which me and Edolia are invading said nation...

However, I feel I should warn you; some of these nations are pretty lost when it comes to moving forces and so on...
Knootoss
21-02-2004, 14:42
(repliedin that thread. You have permission to RP using them, as long as its realistic. (so not the entire nation etc.) and as long as it remains secret. Knootians are there to oversee that.)
21-02-2004, 14:49
Call me blonde, but I still don't get what exactly the "gay spray" does to someone
Knootoss
21-02-2004, 15:08
Call me blonde, but I still don't get what exactly the "gay spray" does to someone

Ok, in small words, without the sciency backup of the first post:
It arouses people, a LOT, and it causes strong hallucinations.
Basically, it makes people want to practice drug-induced free love in a hippyish kind of setting, instead of killing other people.

There are side-effects also such as coughing, difficulty in breathing, increased sweating, nausea, and muscular twitching.

It does not just effect homosexuals, and neither does it change sexual orientation. However in armies with just men you can imagine the effects...