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Since Klonor has gotten sick of idiots with the lack of common sense to follow directions, I will deal with the Superpower nominations, and this time, I'll be much more clear on the rules.

OFFICIAL RULES - PLEASE READ!!!!!
1) You may NOT NOMINATE YOURSELF AS A SUPERPOWER!!!! Anyone who breaks this rule will be barred from the nominations, and may NOT be nominated or elected as a superpower by anyone else.

2) All nominations, including votes for or against nominees, MUST be accompanied with a WELL-WRITTEN explanation of WHY this nations could be considered a superpower.

3) After ten YES votes (not including the nomination vote) for a nation, the nation will be considered a superpower. After ten NO votes, the nation will be removed from the list and must be re-nominated.

4) If it's not too much trouble, could one of the mods check the IPs of voters to ensure no puppets?

LIST OF NOMINATED NATIONS
Automagfreek - Nominated, One vote
Bartondom - Nominated
Wolfish - Nominated

I would like to nominate Diminix as a superpower.

I would like to nominate Bartondom as a superpower. I think he's eligible to be a superpower due to his superior military roleplaying and his ability to come to the rescue of a small nation in need. :)

I nominate The Macabees for eliminating the nazi enemies.

I nominate AMF. Not only is he an old, large nation, he dominates the IC NS realm with his formidable military and alliances (and his excellent roleplaying). He has the power to enforce the majority, if not all, of his goals, from what I've seen, which is a common characteristic of superpowers.

Automagfreek for his ability at Specific and Key Role Playing, Good Sportsmanship, and Good Respect to Fellowb Role Players as he Follows Rules and Attempts to play fair as everyone else does.

OFFICIAL RULES - PLEASE READ!!!!!
2) All nominations, including votes for or against nominees, MUST be accompanied with a WELL-WRITTEN explanation of WHY this nations could be considered a superpower.


Do you people even READ?

OFFICIAL RULES - PLEASE READ!!!!!
2) All nominations, including votes for or against nominees, MUST be accompanied with a WELL-WRITTEN explanation of WHY this nations could be considered a superpower.


Do you people even READ?


Yes, I READ. My bad, but I edited it now. :P

I nominate Diminix for his unrelenting dedication to The Reich and for his good role-playing.

I nominate Diminix for his unrelenting dedication to The Reich and for his good role-playing.
Even the weakest of nations can be greatly dedicated to a certain alliance or nation, but it does not make the nation a superpower. Even the weakest of nations can excel in his or her roleplaying ability, but it does not make the nation a superpower.

As in the previous thread, I nominate Wolfish for the following reasons.

His RP's are of consistently high literary quality and are always entertaining.

He is unfailingly gracious and supportive to new nations.

He co-founded Role Play University in order to improve the quality of RPing in NS.

He has taught and continues to teach new (and older) players positive RP skills.

He has donated countles hours of time to the above at the expense of his own gameplay enjoyment.

I nominate Diminix for his unrelenting dedication to The Reich and for his good role-playing.
Even the weakest of nations can be greatly dedicated to a certain alliance or nation, but it does not make the nation a superpower. Even the weakest of nations can excel in his or her roleplaying ability, but it does not make the nation a superpower.

I'm not weak..

Automagfreek for his ability at Specific and Key Role Playing, Good Sportsmanship, and Good Respect to Fellowb Role Players as he Follows Rules and Attempts to play fair as everyone else does.
Again, even the weakest of nations could roleplay well, show respect to fellow RPers, and yet be dominated by anyone with a gun and an ego.

As in the previous thread, I nominate Wolfish for the following reasons.

His RP's are of consistently high literary quality and are always entertaining.

He is unfailingly gracious and supportive to new nations.

He co-founded Role Play University in order to improve the quality of RPing in NS.

He has taught and continues to teach new (and older) players positive RP skills.

He has donated countles hours of time to the above at the expense of his own gameplay enjoyment.

Again, even weak nations that are FAR from being a superpower can display such traits and experience, but cannot be considered a Superpower.

I urge all voters to make their reasons for nomination/votes actually have SOMETHING to do with the nation's power, whether it be military, economic, or social (IC Social, not OOC Social).

I nominate Dimwit Diminix, even though I hated the guy IC for a while, he has made ns fun for me, along with the rest of the guys i knew from june.

I nominate Dimwit Diminix, even though I hated the guy IC for a while, he has made ns fun for me, along with the rest of the guys i knew from june.

PLEASE read my statement above your post...

I nominate Dimwit Diminix, even though I hated the guy IC for a while, he has made ns fun for me, along with the rest of the guys i knew from june.

He's gonna have a smart ass comment for that. Thanks anyway tho lol

I would like to say that Diminix is not weak. He has control over The Reiches Lufftwaffe and he has helped me on many occasions. If you dont know what The Lufftwaffe is I will be glad to explain.

I would like to say that Diminix is not weak. He has control over The Reiches Lufftwaffe and he has helped me on many occasions. If you dont know what The Lufftwaffe is I will be glad to explain.

Sry double post

As in the previous thread, I nominate Wolfish for the following reasons.

His RP's are of consistently high literary quality and are always entertaining.

He is unfailingly gracious and supportive to new nations.

He co-founded Role Play University in order to improve the quality of RPing in NS.

He has taught and continues to teach new (and older) players positive RP skills.

He has donated countles hours of time to the above at the expense of his own gameplay enjoyment.

Again, even weak nations that are FAR from being a superpower can display such traits and experience, but cannot be considered a Superpower.

Let me add some further qualifications:
one of the largest navies (present tech) in NS - has fought and won innumerable conflicts both major and minor - but better yet - has influenced countless "useless" wars into peaceful solutions...

As in the previous thread, I nominate Wolfish for the following reasons.

His RP's are of consistently high literary quality and are always entertaining.

He is unfailingly gracious and supportive to new nations.

He co-founded Role Play University in order to improve the quality of RPing in NS.

He has taught and continues to teach new (and older) players positive RP skills.

He has donated countles hours of time to the above at the expense of his own gameplay enjoyment.

Again, even weak nations that are FAR from being a superpower can display such traits and experience, but cannot be considered a Superpower.

Let me add some further qualifications:
one of the largest navies (present tech) in NS - has fought and won innumerable conflicts both major and minor - but better yet - has influenced countless "useless" wars into peaceful solutions...
Nomination accepted.

Now THAT'S what I'm looking for.

lol fuck it im out :P

Interesting. TAG'd.

Note to self: throw weight around more. I really need a good conflict to show off what I can do.

I nominate Melkor. When he talks, people listen. When he acts, entire nations tremble.

I nominate Melkor. When he talks, people listen. When he acts, entire nations tremble.

I agree. I'll vote that Melkor be considered a superpower. (And AMF).

Automagfreek for his ability at Specific and Key Role Playing, Good Sportsmanship, and Good Respect to Fellow Role Players as he Follows Rules and Attempts to play fair as everyone else does.
i agree, he is also an old nation, and still carries on, even through many people are only staying for a few weeks. only a true super power would do such a great thing.

id also like to pay tribute to the great nations that no longer exist, especially Geforce4, with some of my puppets i made some great deals at his many superb storefronts.

BUMP

I nominate Valinon and Taka

Valinon

1.) Excellent RPer

2.) Well developed space navy

3.) Balances with civilian infrastructure in his empire and well worked out government

4.) Participated in several defenses of the Alpha Centauri system as well as stopping aggression of older nations against younger nations


Taka

1.) Also an excellent RPer

2.) Innovative concepts in weapons and military technology

3.) Political structure very interesting

4.) Effective actual new look on Japanese politics rather than the same old Shogunate clones that run around

While I'm glad to see so many people value RPing skills, I must say that I dont see how 'Good RPing skills' qualifies someone for 'superpower' status. It seems to me that it would be hard to become a 'superpower' while at the same time being a piss-poor RPer, as people would probably just ignore you and what-have-you.

So I think we can safely assume in most cases that a nomination for somone of a superpower is a sufficient commendation of thier RP skills, at least on the part of the nominator.

But like I said in the other thread, its difficult to quantify 'superpowers' for the entirety of NS. The best you can do generally is get a feel for some of the larger ones that pop up again and again.

I guess everyone expects me to chip in my two cents after that little observation, and I'll just go ahead and do that. From my experience, I've found that Menelmacar in particular [well, no kidding :roll: ] wields a tremendous [though, as Melkor sees, waning] influence on the world stage. In my RP paradigm, few nations are as powerful as Melemacar, my main foe. I like to think I'm one of them too, at least militarily, as.. .well, its sort of the whole basis for my RP.

But that's direct power. If you want to gague some sort of 'Total Influence Rating,' you'd have to take a look at the people who move the supepowers. People like those thrice-damned meddling bastards in the NDA--Treznor and Nathicana in particular.

*stands up, roars, and shakes a fist*

"Labarium"]I would like to nominate Kormanthor and VirginIncursion for World Superpowers:

1). Excellent RP Skills (B)
2). Always sending Diplomats to War torn Areas to Nego. Peace (B)
3). Leaders in Research & Development (K)
4). Has protected Earth numerous times against alien aggression. (K)
5). Has a Kick A-- Hotel / Casio Business going. (K)
6). Has a Huge Future Tech Military that they don't use for
dominating other countries; instead they seem to want to
help people against evil aggression. (B)
7). Has a Cutting Edge Space Based Manufacturing Facility. (P)
8). Has a Cutting Edge Space Based Research Facility. (P)
9). Has a Beautifully Sucessful Underwater City. (V.I.)
10). Each has a Cutting Edge Sky Facility; City / Military Facility respectively. (B)
11). Founder of Aeloularea Region Of The Depth's (V.I.)
12). Operates a Successful Tourist Business. (B)

(B)= Both (K)= Kormanthor (V.I.)= Virginincursion (P)= Partners

Sorry about the double post

We want to second the nominations of Kormanthor & VirginIncursion
as two of many Super Powers. Definately not on the level of the Great
& Powerful Melkor The Unchained, but, worthy of the Honor in any case.

Remember people, you have to give REASONS to support your nominations.

"Labarium"]I would like to nominate Kormanthor and VirginIncursion for World Superpowers:

1). Excellent RP Skills (B)
2). Always sending Diplomats to War torn Areas to Nego. Peace (B)
3). Leaders in Research & Development (K)
4). Has protected Earth numerous times against alien aggression. (K)
5). Has a Kick A-- Hotel / Casio Business going. (K)
6). Has a Huge Future Tech Military that they don't use for
dominating other countries; instead they seem to want to
help people against evil aggression. (B)
7). Has a Cutting Edge Space Based Manufacturing Facility. (P)
8). Has a Cutting Edge Space Based Research Facility. (P)
9). Has a Beautifully Sucessful Underwater City. (V.I.)
10). Each has a Cutting Edge Sky Facility; City / Military Facility respectively. (B)
11). Founder of Aeloularea Region Of The Depth's (V.I.)
12). Operates a Successful Tourist Business. (B)

(B)= Both (K)= Kormanthor (V.I.)= Virginincursion (P)= Partners


We would also like to reaffirm Kormanthor & VirginIncursion for
World Superpowers for the above stated reasons.

I nominate The Holy Empire of Iesus Christi. I don't know what they've been up to lately, but I know they were involved in one of the biggest and best wars ever fought on NS and they founded a powerful region and at least back when I had my first nation they were feared and respected by everyone.

Iesus' player, sadly, has moved and no longer has web access, if what I'm being told is correct. But yeah, he wa sup there.

Kormanthor and Virgin Incursion--NO
I vote against these two, not that I don't think they are bad Rper's but that:

In no way have they ever influenced the FKC or anything tied to us or any identifiable thread I have ever read. Therefore, they should NOT be considered a world power.

Iesus' player, sadly, has moved and no longer has web access, if what I'm being told is correct. But yeah, he wa sup there.

:shock:

Is it going to die off, or did he pass it on?

I nominate Diminix for his unrelenting dedication to The Reich and for his good role-playing.
Even the weakest of nations can be greatly dedicated to a certain alliance or nation, but it does not make the nation a superpower. Even the weakest of nations can excel in his or her roleplaying ability, but it does not make the nation a superpower.

I'm not weak..

Mhmm.. :wink:

Kormanthor and Virgin Incursion--NO
I vote against these two, not that I don't think they are bad Rper's but that:

In no way have they ever influenced the FKC or anything tied to us or any identifiable thread I have ever read. Therefore, they should NOT be considered a world power.

Well hopefully yours isn't the ruling vote Lords Of War. What you don't think they deserve to be called super powers because they haven't tried
to force their will on others!
But I guess it was ok that V.I. got jumped the other day because someone thought she had to be planning a military coup of some kind when she made a large naval order in answer to an entry in her countries description.
I on the other hand haven't heard of any good done by your FKC
either. There are twelve good reasons stated below why I think that they " SHOULD " be named " Superpowers "

"Labarium"]I would like to nominate Kormanthor and VirginIncursion for World Superpowers:

1). Excellent RP Skills (B)
2). Always sending Diplomats to War torn Areas to Nego. Peace (B)
3). Leaders in Research & Development (K)
4). Has protected Earth numerous times against alien aggression. (K)
5). Has a Kick A-- Hotel / Casio Business going. (K)
6). Has a Huge Future Tech Military that they don't use for
dominating other countries; instead they seem to want to
help people against evil aggression. (B)
7). Has a Cutting Edge Space Based Manufacturing Facility. (P)
8). Has a Cutting Edge Space Based Research Facility. (P)
9). Has a Beautifully Sucessful Underwater City. (V.I.)
10). Each has a Cutting Edge Sky Facility; City / Military Facility respectively. (B)
11). Founder of Aeloularea Region Of The Depth's (V.I.)
12). Operates a Successful Tourist Business. (B)

(B)= Both (K)= Kormanthor (V.I.)= Virginincursion (P)= Partners

These are the reasons why they " SHOULD " be Superpowers!

Kormanthor and Virgin Incursion--NO
I vote against these two, not that I don't think they are bad Rper's but that:

In no way have they ever influenced the FKC or anything tied to us or any identifiable thread I have ever read. Therefore, they should NOT be considered a world power.

Well hopefully yours isn't the ruling vote Lords Of War. What you don't think they deserve to be called super powers because they haven't tried
to force their will on others!
But I guess it was ok that V.I. got jumped the other day because someone thought she had to be planning a military coup of some kind when she made a large naval order in answer to an entry in her countries description.
I on the other hand haven't heard of any good done by your FKC
either. There are twelve good reasons stated above why I think that they " SHOULD " be named " Superpowers "

Interesting...
I like not being feared by anyone. :D
(Consider this a wordy tag.)

I think I understand L.O.W's real thrust--(being LOW)

A superpower on N.S. must have a well recognizable name. Neither of those nations he voted against do. Versus say Niancio, Melkor, Meneclamar (sp!), Iseus, AMF, Foe Hammer, Imperial Navy, Sniper Country, Wolfie, hell even the now deleted 'Bisons and Fik' were well known.
To be a superpower on NS one must have a well recognized reputation, either good or bad. The fact that these two nations are obviously, well intentioned, and well thought of nations does not grant one 'superpower' status.

(I'm going to add that to 'truly' be a superpower on NS, to have the recognizion in foreign afftairs one must have at least been lampooned intelligently once say by Wombat News.) Note: this is not a vote for anyone so I'm not trying to puppet vote here.

Just a casual note: every one of those endorsements for Kormathor and VI seem to be posting from the same IP address..

OOC: Hmm, that is interesting Melkor. Although I do know of a few instances where seperate players may either use the same computer or have identical IP addresses (due to using a 'mini-security server') but both of those are fairly rare occurances in my small experience
...but you'd have a better idea about that on this board. -GW

Just a casual note: every one of those endorsements for Kormathor and VI seem to be posting from the same IP address..
Thank you for the notice.

Kormathor and VI are now barred from the draft.

Well, they didnt appear to be puppets of Kormanthor and/or VI themselves, so I dont see any reason why they'd be barred, really.

I would suggest suspension until a reasonable explanation can be made.

Sure.

Kormathor and VI are suspended until they can provide a good explanation.

I would like to Nominate (did I spell that right?) AMF

he has recently hieghtened the living conditions of his people and still has a capable army (near impossible for a smaller nation as myself ...am I still considered a small nation of have I moved up in the rank?) anyways, his nation has always been one smaller nations looked up to in both size of military and in general size

(sorry if it doesn't make all that much sense I'm outta it :P )

Bump 8)

Why do you think we need to give reasons for something we had nothing to do with starting. Both Kormanthor and I are allies who have
tried to help stop aggression whenever we could. We are both relatively
good sized countries, larger than some you mentioned as ones with
well known names. We remove ourselves from the running so all you
upper class countries can stop worrying about it.

Sure.

Kormathor and VI are suspended until they can provide a good explanation.

I would like to know why you think you can suspend us to begin with Foe
being that you are a much younger country than either of us?

I would like to nominate a little known nations called "The Eastern Smoc." Although nobody really pays enough mind to consider it a superpower... I myself find the nation to be well worth a look. Most of the nations on the ballot are dust-bunnies compared to The Eastern Smoc.

Besides... it has Smoc in its name... what could be cooler than that?

Sure.

Kormathor and VI are suspended until they can provide a good explanation.

I would like to know why you think you can suspend us to begin with Foe
being that you are a much younger country than either of us?

I would like for you to note that FH has 800 million more people than you. Smaller... I think not.

Well, they didnt appear to be puppets of Kormanthor and/or VI themselves, so I dont see any reason why they'd be barred, really.

OCC:
Melkor we recognize you as a country that is larger & older than we are
but I feel that some younger countries in NS seem to think that just
because we don't have storefronts that they are worthy of ruling over us.
Both Kormanthor & I work a full time job & attend college besides, so
we don't have that time to give to NS that we would like too. Sniper Country just added technology to his / her storefront that we have had
in our countries for a very long time and wanted to put in a storefront of our own. You may verify that with Indra Prime if you wish, for he is who has been working primarily with Kormanthor to develop it. My point is that
we are not NOOBS, but I feel that we are being treated as such by countries younger than we are. Just so you know we don't appreciate it.

Sure.

Kormathor and VI are suspended until they can provide a good explanation.

I would like to know why you think you can suspend us to begin with Foe
being that you are a much younger country than either of us?

I would like for you to note that FH has 800 million more people than you. Smaller... I think not.

Foes Hammer was started 21 Nov 03, that is after I started V.I. so as far as I'm concerned that makes you younger!

Perhaps you're unfamiliar with country resurrections? I've done it myself on occasion for a puppet of mine. If a nation is deleted, it can be revived by one of the Moderators. The only problem is that a nation's creation date is wiped clean. If a deleted December 2002 nation was deleted a long time ago and resurrected today, it's creation date will be March 3rd, or the date it was resurrected.

Foe Hammer was an older nation deleted for inactivity and later resurrected.

Cheers, and hope I was of assistance.

Supercavitating Attack Submarine/s Now Under Construction

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Kormanthor
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Founded: 30 Jul 2003
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 2:41 am Post subject: Supercavitating Attack Submarine/s Now Under Construction

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Kormanthor proudly presents its Newest Naval Vessel, the Supercaviting Attack Submarine. It will be unveiled very soon.
it is the technological wonder of modern naval warfare.


Melkor this is the Thread where Kormanthor started his work on Supercaviting Submarine. Check It Out.

I was not aware of that because I have no way of tracing IP address
and things of that nature. Still I think that NS has certain PEOPLE
that are in their own little CLICK. Regardless of what name they go
under it seems that other people like us can't buy a membership.

Still I think that NS has certain PEOPLE
that are in their own little CLICK. Regardless of what name they go
under it seems that other people like us can't buy a membership.Money can't get you population or age. So yea, it's impossible to buy into the huge ancient nation clique.

Still I think that NS has certain PEOPLE
that are in their own little CLICK. Regardless of what name they go
under it seems that other people like us can't buy a membership.Money can't get you population or age. So yea, it's impossible to buy into the huge ancient nation clique.

VirginIncursion may not be as old as some of these other countries
but she is the founder of our Region. It has been our experience that
she really cares for other countries and she is one of the bigger countries
in Aeloulaera. I think that all good countries should be recognized by this
ancient nation clique at some point.

I think that all good countries should be recognized by this
ancient nation clique at some point.Recognized? Yes. Allowed into the clique? That would be impossible.

First, founding a region means about squat...
Second, the clique of Ancients shall we call it is further reinforced by a lower tier of states that are not as old, but well known and powerful.

Complaining that you are not of the 'greats' or your ally just sort of phases me as being needy of recognition.

Sings "Just be happy your of the middling sort, you don't get nOObs pestering you.... the noob hunters ignore you...and most war mongers don't like to pick a hard fight..."

Sure.

Kormathor and VI are suspended until they can provide a good explanation.

I would like to know why you think you can suspend us to begin with Foe
being that you are a much younger country than either of us?

I would like for you to note that FH has 800 million more people than you. Smaller... I think not.

Foes Hammer was started 21 Nov 03, that is after I started V.I. so as far as I'm concerned that makes you younger!
Well, you're not going to ever be declared a superpower, but anyone who doesn't realize that some nations have been "resurrected" should never even acheive the rank of newbie.