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OOC: Your nation 2000 years from now? - RP Oppertunity!

Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 03:16
Ok, upon realizing that my Civil War (Cold to the Touch (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2598138#2598138), Let the Outside Slowly Die (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2631904#2631904)) will be taking much longer than I originally expected, I also realized that Realm of the Risen 2 and the third chapter of the Warheit Saga won't be ready in time for founder's day - March 16 (the day I began my NS experience.)

That being said, both will still take place, however not on March 16, because there is no way either could take place during the war. However, I still want to kick off an RP on March 16...so I've come to the idea of a future RP.

Now, as documented numerous times in many of my RP's, sometime in the next 200 years Steel Butterfly will invent and pretty much master time travel - devoting a whole organization to temporal preservation. One of the main guys of this organization has come up in many of my RP's as well. A character of mine will be transported to the future for some reason that I'm not going to announce until the RP starts.

So...

I'm asking everyone who is able to participate to RP their nation, or characters from their nation, 2000 years from the present. Remember, there are many different things that can happen to your nation in 2000 years. Think of all the things that have happened since Christ was born and the Roman Empire ruled all!

What will be the fate of your nation?

Post-Apocolyptic? (Mine will be 8) )
Thriving Super-Power?
Completely Different in some way but still the same name?
Taken over?
etc....

I'm really looking for possibilites and variety here...so go ahead. Use this thread to comment on the idea, to think about what your nation will be like, to ask questions, or whatever you want...on topic.

The RP will kick-off March 16th...so be ready before then!
Kaukolastan
15-02-2004, 03:19
TAG: Lemme in, SB! Let's see, with my current AI research... Kaukolastan will be a near-utopian superpower, but people are fitted with overlay control "masks" that keep their thoughts in line. The definition of "Human" has imploded, and reality is a mere concept. Society is split into controllers and morass, those that can control the Net, and those that are enslaved to it. The more that you see, the more dystopian it becomes, but compared to the Wastes, it's heaven.
Roania
15-02-2004, 03:23
TAG: Lemme in, SB!

2000 years from now, you'll be the property of Roania.

Sorry. :wink:

Hell, twenty years from now!
15-02-2004, 03:24
It will be either a Thriving Super Power or.....um.....Still the Modern tech societ with Space Age stuff....you know.....not a Godmodding Nation that goes beyound the rules, haven't seen one here btw.

Thriving Super Power my guess, since I thrive to be what I can in this cool gaming RP.
Celack
15-02-2004, 03:26
HMMM> Remeber in Warheit saga 1 Kanosis was sent around time. E'll be dragges through time by accidental side effect of the time travel. Celack has fallen in the 2000 years
Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 03:26
Just to clarify, you cannot be "in control of" another nation just because you post it first. If both nations agree...go for it.

Also, this isn't one of those "What does your leader's house look like?" type threads. This is planning for a RP.
15-02-2004, 03:26
Hmm ...

Well, I think this would be a good way to ring in my return to NationStates ... I'm in. That is, if you'll let an old, tired, and hungry, and maybe even recognizable NSer into this. I think I can say, um ... My RPs arew hopefully good enough quality to enter in this? Please?
15-02-2004, 03:26
Yeah! My nation will be a massive thriving space empire with a diverse number of races who are ruled by the wise Dyvest Royal House (much different than the psychotic roman catholic government going on right now).
Kaukolastan
15-02-2004, 03:26
TAG: Lemme in, SB!

2000 years from now, you'll be the property of Roania.

Sorry. :wink:

Hell, twenty years from now!
Roania, bring it, and I'll kick your ass. 8)
imported_Pantera
15-02-2004, 03:27
Not sure if I'll be able to get in on this, as March looks to be very busy for me, but I would like to comment on the possibilities of this RP. I've often thought of doing something similar, just to test myself and see what everyone else thinks would happen in their own NS timelines. Great idea, SB.

Now, I would like to urge everyone to look at the possibilities here. Don't automatically assume your nation will be a gargantuan world power. As Steel pointed out, alot can happen in 2000 years. Don't be afraid to push the boundaries of what you've already done here at NS. Eliminate your people. Use rape and occupation to bastardize your culture into a blend of ten existing NS cultures. Write a 2000 year history of deceit, strife and war that ultimately led to only a handful of your people left. Use your peole as the wandering scum of the earth, without a homeland to call their own. Soooo many possibilities.

**Glorified Tag**

I'll keep an eye on this, but as I said, March looks to be hellacious for me. Especially mid-March.
Tarasovka
15-02-2004, 03:28
Post-Apocolyptic? (Mine will be 8) )
Thriving Super-Power?
Completely Different in some way but still the same name?
Taken over?


Uhm... non existant? :?
Roania
15-02-2004, 03:28
Roania will once again be in the thralls of a deadly civil war, because of two claimants to the royal throne. Major cities will be under martial law, and foriegners will be kept away.

Quite like now, actually.

Oh, and Roanian merchants will control an interstellar trading consortium, and have contacts everywhere.
Menelmacar
15-02-2004, 03:28
Menelmacar has pan-galactic ambitions... so we'd probably have made some progress towards that in a couple thousand years. Siri would still be Siri, but probably with an even bigger ego. ;)

Let's see how this turns out.

~Siri
15-02-2004, 03:29
My nation shall reveal its true identity to the world in 1000 years, or sooner, because we were tired of hiding in a Human Form most of the Day and going into our true form......
Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 03:29
I remember you from something Haraki...were you that "measure of a man" guy?

Anyhow...this is mostly open...as long as whoever is in it has decent character-oriented RP skills, although this won't be entirely a CO RP. I'm thinking more plot-driven...but...even I don't know yet.
15-02-2004, 03:30
Me neather, might need to remind me.
Slutbum Wallah
15-02-2004, 03:31
1712 years in the future, all the inhabitants of Slutbum Wallah (virtually unchanged at this point) will be suddenly assualted, conquered and reduced to being human slaves in an insect nation.
15-02-2004, 03:31
Are you being sarcastic, Steel? I honestly can't tell online when I'm this tired.

Yeah, I used to be a kinda big name, but ... Whatever. I've got plans for this RP, not to mention my own, and I left without posting one of those annoying "I'm leaving unless someone whines at me to stay" threads like so many people did. Sorry, I'm rambling. Yeah, I;m back, and also ...

Yeah, I'm in.
15-02-2004, 03:33
Oh yea, I'm in, I love to RP farily...its cool....and fun.....and has more information rather than godmodding, hence why I hate godmodding.
imported_Cspalla
15-02-2004, 03:35
Neat! I've wanted to start running tests on a drive system to move to other galaxies....I think I should have that mastered in 2000 years. Robert Fyre will be around the 23rd clone, too. That could be interesting.
Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 03:36
My nation shall reveal its true identity to the world in 1000 years, or sooner, because we were tired of hiding in a Human Form most of the Day and going into our true form......

Well...everyone will be 2000 years in the future...not random places in time.

Haraki, I honestly don't remember. Were you or weren't you?

Menel, I hope you join. Siri is one for the ages....literally...

I hope I don't have to end up putting a limit on this...it's already gotten a huge response.
Roania
15-02-2004, 03:39
What will SB be like 2000 years from now?

All powerful juggernaut? Or broken nation, controlled by a random collection of planets, and held hostage by the Interstellar League?
Kaukolastan
15-02-2004, 03:40
Hmm..since everyone seems to have "IR TEH 1337357" style ambitions, I guess I'll place Kaukolastan in some paallel world or something. I have a cool vision for a society that has conquered all and destroyed itself, but I can't pull that here. It would make a good story, though.
Automagfreek
15-02-2004, 03:40
I'm down for this. I've already got some plots in mind....,
Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 03:41
Interstellar League? :?

Anyhow, like I hinted at in the first post, it will be much different that the prosperous and strong SB of today.
Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 03:41
I'm down for this. I've already got some plots in mind....,

Excellent. I don't believe we've ever RPed, even in the "hay day" of our long cold war.
Roania
15-02-2004, 03:43
You're not that prosperous, really.

I think that my nobles have a higher standard of living than your people.

Ooh.
Maybe I'll be a corporate police state.
imported_Cspalla
15-02-2004, 03:44
I'm thinking about Cspalla....I think I'll play around with populaiton ratios. Say the Elves gave a much larger part of Cspalla than normal...maybe even a majority.
15-02-2004, 03:46
I have a plot, and I wont use that Other Being thing either, still human, unless NationStates fantasy come in. Anywho, either it will be Super Power, or just the same in most aspects, cause I like having this Nation, and I already have plans for its future, hence my immediet involvment in this.
15-02-2004, 03:47
Well, Steel, I've been receiving TGs from you for a while now asking me to join in your RPs ... I thought you'd remember who I was. And it was 'Trials of a Man' although I had a lot besides that one.

Anyway, Menelmacar, SB, Auto ... Hmm, this is like 'A Who's Who of Influential Nations'
Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 03:48
You're not that prosperous, really.

I think that my nobles have a higher standard of living than your people.


I don't want to get off topic in an argument, however I severly doubt that.
CoreWorlds
15-02-2004, 03:50
I'm not really sure, but I know that the Masaki family line gets killed off along the way by a horrible genocide attempt by demonic creatures (or so everyone thinks). Otherwise, think a smaller version of Coruscant at that point in time.
Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 03:52
Well, Steel, I've been receiving TGs from you for a while now asking me to join in your RPs ... I thought you'd remember who I was

My apologies... :cry:
Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 03:53
Well, Steel, I've been receiving TGs from you for a while now asking me to join in your RPs ... I thought you'd remember who I was

My apologies... :cry:
15-02-2004, 03:58
I might join in... Space-flight will be achieved, and the Principality (Colonies spanning several systems) will have begun collapsing, but then FTL will have been discovered, opening up new possibilities...
15-02-2004, 04:03
Err, assuming this is an open RP :wink:
Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 04:09
Err, assuming this is an open RP :wink:

As I said, for now it is open. This may change closer to "production time" though.
Stromata
15-02-2004, 04:11
my nation his hightech as it is but I want to join ur rp so in the future my nation whould by a hightech spacetech/biomodified thriving empire buts thats only if u aprove of me to join ur rp
Automagfreek
15-02-2004, 04:12
Err, assuming this is an open RP :wink:

As I said, for now it is open. This may change closer to "production time" though.

I'd definatly suggest an invite only RP.
15-02-2004, 04:13
Oh......so.....I'm not gonna be allowed.....
Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 04:21
In a response to Auto and Nodea...

I think I'm going to make it semi-open.

Naturally all the nations who I've RPed with sucessfully will be allowed in, as well as those, like Auto and Menel, who I know can RP anyhow.

If you don't fall under those two catagories, I'd ask you to either A: post the URL here of an RP you took part in, or B...

....

If you've never RPed with me, and haven't RPed before much on NS, I think I'm going to start an RP for the single purpose of testing out potential RPers. We'll see. If so, that will start soon, and I'll post the URL to it here.

So Nodea, and all the others who haven't done much with me or done much period, you still have a chance, even if it is slim.
15-02-2004, 04:26
Uh ... Which cory do I fall into? Because I want tinto this, but I'm not sure if you remember all the times we RPed. Do I have to audition or send a link, or whatever?

Just curious, 'cause it's a really good idea.
Slutbum Wallah
15-02-2004, 04:28
OOC: Lets see, what have we Rped in that didn't fail miserably?
IC: Um... good question.
OOC: C'mon, there must be something! We've been around for almost a year!
IC: I'm afraid not.
OOC: Well who do we know that could give us a good referral?
IC: The only person who ever recognized us after a week was Orcish Hordes and he hated our guts.
OOC: *sigh* One application form for the "Testing Potential RP" please.
Valinon
15-02-2004, 04:29
I'm thinking thriving superpower, possible a multi-system empire rather than just having major holdings in only Alpha Centauri. But our culture will mean we are decadent and it is quite possible the vast empire of Valinon might be in its last glowing glory days 2000 years from now. Think the culture of the Centauri from Babylon 5 meets the Edwardian Age of Earth. Except we will be closer to the British Empire in terms of political power and military might than the Centauri during the time of the Babylon 5 series. Is this acceptable, SB? Or do you consider it too far out there?
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Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 04:32
Uh ... Which cory do I fall into? Because I want tinto this, but I'm not sure if you remember all the times we RPed. Do I have to audition or send a link, or whatever?

Just curious, 'cause it's a really good idea.

I remember the Jaime Walf or who ever stories. I think you can do a good job.
Tomzilla
15-02-2004, 04:34
Let me think... 2000 years from now, Tomzilla will probably be a world superpower, will have colonized other planets, and is heading for a civil war that will decide the destiny of Tomzilla.
Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 04:38
OOC: *sigh* One application form for the "Testing Potential RP" please.

Consider yourself signed up.

I'm thinking thriving superpower, possible a multi-system empire rather than just having major holdings in only Alpha Centauri. But our culture will mean we are decadent and it is quite possible the vast empire of Valinon might be in its last glowing glory days 2000 years from now. Think the culture of the Centauri from Babylon 5 meets the Edwardian Age of Earth. Except we will be closer to the British Empire in terms of political power and military might than the Centauri during the time of the Babylon 5 series. Is this acceptable, SB? Or do you consider it too far out there?

Not every nation can fall to pieces, just like not every nation can thrive. An Empire that's seen better days sounds cool, as do the problems that would go with that Empire.


I won't be able to join this, because the slow, painful death of Omz222 is going to take a while...

Ahh...that sucks. The last time I RPed with you was probably back in March...last year.... :?

Let me think... 2000 years from now, Tomzilla will probably be a world superpower, will have colonized other planets, and is heading for a civil war that will decide the destiny of Tomzilla.

That's really cliche and pretty unrealistic. However, if you want to join, participate and impress me and the other "established RPers" in the trial RP.
Kaukolastan
15-02-2004, 05:08
SB, am I allowed in? I'll fetch a URL if you need it...

My History:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=123099&highlight=

My Latest Thread:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=123200&highlight=

And here's one by another nation I run:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=117555&start=0
Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 05:09
SB, am I allowed in? I'll fetch a URL if you need it...

A URL would be great :P
Kaukolastan
15-02-2004, 05:10
EDITed

You may have seen my old War on Water, too. Proof that I have a sense of humor...if warped.
Automagfreek
15-02-2004, 05:10
Yeah, see this is what I'm worried about. Just about every young nation is saying "well, I'll probably be a superpower...." :?
Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 05:12
Yeah, see this is what I'm worried about. Just about every young nation is saying "well, I'll probably be a superpower...." :?

You wanna help me come up with a simple storyline and help me judge those who enter it?
Automagfreek
15-02-2004, 05:13
Yeah, see this is what I'm worried about. Just about every young nation is saying "well, I'll probably be a superpower...." :?

You wanna help me come up with a simple storyline and help me judge those who enter it?

Sure. I'm stil bouncing around a few ideas about AMF's future, but as for a basic plot for everybody.....we'll have to brainstorm.
Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 05:16
We can do that right here I guess...

For the real RP, I'm not quite sure of the overall story line yet (don't know what all I want in it) but what do you think we should do for the Trial RP?

Should everyone be people in a small town, interacting with one another or trying to save the town from some sort of doom?

Should they be survivors after something, banding together in order to survive?

These are the kind of simple storylines that I want, things easily set up and easily concluded in a month's time. You have any suggestions?
Kaukolastan
15-02-2004, 05:19
Aircrash in jungle with hostile natives? Cliched, but it fits all requirements.

Anywho, judgement?
Automagfreek
15-02-2004, 05:21
Hmmm....that would kind of take away from the whole "your nation in 2000 years thing" IMO.

Not to say they're bad ideas, but more or less I think it would be cool to RP as these future nations. Maybe we could have a test run to see if this would work or not.
15-02-2004, 05:21
Let's go with survivors from some crash or something, with each person only having one character.
Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 05:25
Hmmm....that would kind of take away from the whole "your nation in 2000 years thing" IMO.


Perhaps I'm rambling...

All I want now is an RP, for those who I don't know but who want to be in the future RP, to prove to me and possibly others that they can RP well enough to take part in the 2000 year in the future RP.

I can almost assure you, Auto, that this idea will work. Enough people have thought about it over the last few months, and if we get good RPers in it, it will go above and beyond expectations.

I need a basic storyline for the test RP. Something short and easily ended. I also want everyone to have 2 characters, so I can see how they write "interaction" with themselves.
Valinon
15-02-2004, 05:33
Alright then, I think official in 2000 years Valinon will be this: an ebbing superpower. We will still definately have a large territory and strong military but the undercurrents of decay and decline will be appearing, and internally the outer portions of the empire will be starting to grow more and more distant from the "core" areas. It would probably still be centered on the Alpha Centauri system, but would expand away from Sol, that way we wouldn't have to deal with the annoying political morass of Sol as much. I'm thinking 10-12 systems pretty close together, with some more distant territories that stretch our assets.
Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 05:36
Alright then, I think official in 2000 years Valinon will be this: an ebbing superpower. We will still definately have a large territory and strong military but the undercurrents of decay and decline will be appearing, and internally the outer portions of the empire will be starting to grow more and more distant from the "core" areas. It would probably still be centered on the Alpha Centauri system, but would expand away from Sol, that way we wouldn't have to deal with the annoying political morass of Sol as much. I'm thinking 10-12 systems pretty close together, with some more distant territories that stretch our assets.

Kinda like Rome near it's fall...
15-02-2004, 05:37
I am not going to be AN FREAKIN GODMODDING SUPER POWER! I HATE GODMODDING! I SHALL JUST BE SUPER POWER OR......SOMETHING!

Geeze......:hits the wall and falls::
Valinon
15-02-2004, 05:42
Alright then, I think official in 2000 years Valinon will be this: an ebbing superpower. We will still definately have a large territory and strong military but the undercurrents of decay and decline will be appearing, and internally the outer portions of the empire will be starting to grow more and more distant from the "core" areas. It would probably still be centered on the Alpha Centauri system, but would expand away from Sol, that way we wouldn't have to deal with the annoying political morass of Sol as much. I'm thinking 10-12 systems pretty close together, with some more distant territories that stretch our assets.

Kinda like Rome near it's fall...

In a way, a bit more stable but getting to that point. We'll even be Catholic still......
Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 05:45
I am not going to be AN FREAKIN GODMODDING SUPER POWER! I HATE GODMODDING! I SHALL JUST BE SUPER POWER OR......SOMETHING!

Geeze......:hits the wall and falls::

Chill man, no need to get bent out of shape. Do well in the test RP and we'll see. Relax, please.

Auto, any ideas?
Kaukolastan
15-02-2004, 05:50
Well, assuming I'm in, here's my idea:

Kaukolastan is a power, the only power in a war torn sector of space near Sol. Great empires once stood and did battle, but they are now gone, and we are the only power left in the area. The people are hardy and the economy is robust, but the outside world is not pretty, with the aftermath of plagues/nukes/antimatter/gravitics/God-knows making life outside of the Imperial Centers impossible.

As such, the Kaukolastani Imperium is harsh and strict. Those that do well excel, but those that fail fall into waste, and are on the Dole. Expansion is the name of the game, as the inner systems are poluted and overpopulated. Computers control more than expected, and people embrace all sorts of "cyber-augs". There are people who upload into computers, computers placed into cloned bodies, and new gen-en lifeforms. What is human is the big question, and with the growth of simulated-human/human marriage, it could be in for a revolution.

We are sort of a Corporate Sector, which many trade with. We have no rivals in the Wastes, because it's not worth the hazards. We do the dirty work, and profit handsomely. Our material is some of the finest around, and many come to "make their living" in the Imperium. Some succeed, and emerge sector lords, others die in the irradiated asteroid mines.

The colonies are at each others throats over the issue of "what is human", and only the brutal force of the Imperial Navy keeps them in line. As such, it is both dystopian and utopian, depending on your views. Life is not easy, but it can be fruitful. Everything is gray, and there is constant struggle. In a way, it is completely different, and completely the same.

EDITTED AS CONCEPT CHANGED
Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 05:58
Perhaps the economy should be toned down a bit. I'm sure if your future nation was that well off financially, they would be a little better off life-wise than you say.
Trailers
15-02-2004, 05:59
OOC:Ooh!Ooooh!I want in!!Min'll be a much feared meat grinder.Like..the Illuminati.Puppeteering governments behind the scenes and so massive it can't be brought down.But it'll be a little more corrupt than it is now.The Supreme Admiral,Sovisk,will have found out how to clone himself so that he has been in power for the past 900 or so years.
Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 06:01
Min'll be a much feared meat grinder.

Eh? I really don't want all these superpowers...
Automagfreek
15-02-2004, 06:02
Auto, any ideas?

Still thinking.....
Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 06:04
Auto, any ideas?

Still thinking.....

If all else fails, we can go with that whole crash idea...

or hopefully everyone will have an example already to show me.
Kaukolastan
15-02-2004, 06:07
Perhaps the economy should be toned down a bit. I'm sure if your future nation was that well off financially, they would be a little better off life-wise than you say.
Well, my thought was that they'd have a dominance in the market, and it would be winner take all... perhaps not frightening, but really high. There would be corporate warfare, like two corporations warring over a piece of rare ore or lost technology in the Wastes (which are huge), and some little guy slipping in and stealing it, then bribing his way into a corporation with it. Stuff like that. Winner take all, and the population is made of people who wish to risk life and limb for that "big break". That, and people who like the fact that there's almost no rule on the corporations, hence the boom in sentient machines and such. It would be mercenary and spartan, but hardly hopeless. It's the carry-over of the Corporate Police state.

I think it would make good story points, too. Your chara falls in with a small crew making a run for "the big score" in some old warzone, dodging corporate armadas. (No one fight the Imperial Fleet, b/c it's uber from the profits.) This could easily tie into other nations, who would have a customer relation with me.

"Illegal? No problem. Rare? We'll find it. Impossible? We'll build it. Immoral? There's no such thing."
15-02-2004, 06:08
Well... Sign me up for the evaluation then.
Kaukolastan
15-02-2004, 06:09
As such to this, I wouldn't be a warring power. But, since no one would WANT to get what my people provide, I'm pretty safe. The Navy is powerful, but not unstoppable. It's just that I make the ships for people, build the reactors, run freelance docks, and operate mercenary units. I do the dirty work, and so if anyone gunned me down, everyone else would be pissed, and they would have to do the nasty work themselves. My power would not be from my size, but from my utility and professionalism.

"You need it? We've got it. On sale, too."
Sketch
15-02-2004, 06:10
Hmmmm, this looks quite interesting. Since I'm already a burgeoning superpower (allow me my fantasies), I guess its high time that I go into a decline.

How's this:

The very concept of Sketch as a nation is but a forgotten memory of a very dsitance past. After being torn apart by an alliance of ancient foes, the culture and society of Sketch were destroyed. Those who survived the great purges following Sketch's downfall went into hiding. After many years, a secret society based on the traditions of the old ways of Sketch emerges. Eventually, this society becomes one of gargantuan proportions, spanning the entire spectrum of society. The Holy Order of Sketch works to revive the ancient glory of Sketch by manipulating governments from the shadows and writting the destinies of entire worlds.

Basically, a bigger scarier version of today's "secret" societies - Illuminati, Soldats, Iscariots, etc etc

All I need no is someone willing to let me run my "shadow work" in their government. In return, you can one of those who brought me to my knees :wink:
Kaukolastan
15-02-2004, 06:12
Hmmmm, this looks quite interesting. Since I'm already a burgeoning superpower (allow me my fantasies), I guess its high time that I go into a decline.

How's this:

The very concept of Sketch as a nation is but a forgotten memory of a very dsitance past. After being torn apart by an alliance of ancient foes, the culture and society of Sketch were destroyed. Those who survived the great purges following Sketch's downfall went into hiding. After many years, a secret society based on the traditions of the old ways of Sketch emerges. Eventually, this society becomes one of gargantuan proportions, spanning the entire spectrum of society. The Holy Order of Sketch works to revive the ancient glory of Sketch by manipulating governments from the shadows and writting the destinies of entire worlds.

Basically, a bigger scarier version of today's "secret" societies - Illuminati, Soldats, Iscariots, etc etc

All I need no is someone willing to let me run my "shadow work" in their government. In return, you can one of those who brought me to my knees :wink:
Sketch, you can run a couple of my uber-corporations and have "advisors" in the Imperial Court. I've got no problems with that, and it would kinda fit. As long as your willing to work with a domineering, power-crazed, life-squandering, capitalizt government.
Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 06:16
I guess I should post mine kinda soon :lol:
Copiosa Scotia
15-02-2004, 06:34
As the world became smaller and the frequency of conflicts over increasingly valuable land and resources grew at an alarming rate, Copiosa Scotia responded by isolating itself. The borders were closed, foreigners became more and more subject to suspicion, and trade very nearly ceased, causing widespread and devastating food shortages. Indeed, Copiosa Scotia owes its continued status as a global power to major technological advances in the field of agriculture. The open fields once used mainly to grow hemp are now covered by the massive, multi-story farm buildings that keep Copiosa Scotia's six billion people alive. The nation has yet to regain its former power on the moon, where its only off-planet colony was nearly wiped out by the famine.

While citizens still enjoy a remarkable variety of personal and economic freedoms within Copiosa Scotia, external travel and trade are strictly controlled by the government. While crime is rare in the wealthier areas of the massive cities, law enforcement officials will seldom enter the poorer sections, which are run like tiny countries of their own by the local crime lords. There is one significant difference between the criminal element of the 4004 A.D. and that of 2004 A.D.: the organizations are now entirely Scotian in origin, the Russian mafia having been pushed out long ago.

Faster-than-light travel technology has been perfected, but few ships are actually equipped with the drives; the majority of Copiosa Scotia's space navy -- a mere two fleets -- is used to protect the lunar colony and Scotian orbital space.
15-02-2004, 06:39
The nations of the moon would probably have confederated into a United States of the moon just to survive the numerous invasions from earth and aliens civiliations.
Though it would be hard to see West Moon ceding its national soverignty, it probably would have joined the other lunar nations in doing so around this time.
TheUSM might have a national parliament with members from each of the moon's current nations and a triumvirate Presidency ( with nations rotating through the Presidency three at a time).
Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 06:39
For people who have not RPed with me before...post a URL demonstrating your ability.
15-02-2004, 06:51
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=123731&start=20

Go there, thats where I have my RP currently, rping...and all.....whatever.....anywho, God Bless. :)
Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 06:53
It looks fine to me...as long as you don't post so many OOC comments in this RP as you did in your's.
Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 06:54
To go 2000 years into the future of Steel Butterfly, the Empire, and the whole of the Orion Sector, you must first understand what happened in the 2000 years leading up to it.

Roughly 200 years from the present (which is far-future tech) the Empire (consisting of 8 planets, check my region) discovers time travel. (This has been noted numerous times as people from the future have interacted with people from the present and past.) This, along with their sub-space space folding FTL travel which they already have, gives them no boundaries in the limitless vasts of space and time.

When a wormhole is discovered far away from the Orion Sector roughly 450 years from the present, the ships of the Empire naturally go into it, and emerge in another universe, completely different than the one we know and live in. This is the first known meeting between the two universes and the Humans, Zabrak, and Worthens of Steel Butterfly are the first signs of other-universe life that this new race, the TorS'la, come in counter with. At first the relations between the two cultures, TorS'la and Steel Butterfly, are smooth, with TorS'la even journeying to Steel Butterfly and other Imperial planets.

For the next 1000 years, as Steel Butterfly and the surrounding planets' technology grows more and more amazing every year, the TorS'la grow more and more paranoid with the Empire (or whatever form of government SB has).

Then, about 1500 years from the present time, the TorS'la invade. Coming across dimensions, they attack the empire, and kill 99% of the people living there. The Zabrak and Worthens become extinct, as the Humans are spread out far and wide across the Orion Sector, forced to live in ruins of the once-great cities.

By now what is considered Human is a bit different that what is at the present day. Zabrak-Human, Zabrak-Worthen, Worthen-Human, and Zabrak-Worthen-Human mixes are common. Also, even the simplest "humans" are not pure, as each has a little bit of Aural in them.

Rei Warheit, who is still alive and the only know Aural, is the only pure Aural, but him and his wife of long ago (present time) began to make offspring, and gradually the Aural blood became one with the humans, and centuries upon centuries of offspring were made.

Aurals, like Rei Warheit, have the distince ability to manipulate the forces of nature, but this ability is lost among the Human-Aurals of 2000 years in the future. However, Rei does lead a group of three men, the Knights of Aeisis, in protecting a certain clan of humans in the ruins of the Aeisis capital on the planet Aeisis. They fight for their lives against the ever-present TorS'la, who left the sector, and possibly others, in ruins. These Knights have very little ability, yet it is still with them. It is the only defense Steel Butterfly's humanity has against their opressors, who strive to one day make this universe their own, just like they did to their original one.

So I'll see where this leads me. Obviously without government or anything, my part of the story will center around Rei Warheit and his three knights. There will be relics of the technological greatness still around, and some of them will be really cool. I've been planning them for some time, yet I can't use them in present-day NS (even at my far-future tech level) without someone yelling GODMOD.

Like I said, the Empire has seen better days...
Sagesquagmire
15-02-2004, 06:59
(tag)

id like to join in, but my nation just isnt the type that is going to be most interesting, or even wanted :)

*watches*
Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 07:01
(tag)

id like to join in, but my nation just isnt the type that is going to be most interesting, or even wanted :)

*watches*

Perhaps you could make it so that it becomes more interesting or "wanted" in the future? :lol:
Sagesquagmire
15-02-2004, 07:03
Weeelll... i havent even thought about the future... damn you for questioning my hopeless bargaining for avoidance.

*bugger bugger bugger*

:D :lol:
Tappee
15-02-2004, 07:05
I'm in, already planning what Tappee will look like in 2000 years, as well as who my characters are going to be, and what they can do.
Tappee
15-02-2004, 07:10
I've had read everything that has been post so if what I'm going to say has already been said just tell me to shut up.

If any you have watch the Star Trek Enterprise you'll know what I'm getting at here. For the moment i'm just throwing out idea

NS has seen it's share of wars, from midevil, to future tech. What about a Temporal war. A war fought through out time, in which each side tries to alter key events to change to future in their favor.

We could revisit some of our old RP's and act as observers
Sagesquagmire
15-02-2004, 07:13
thats a pretty cool idea....
Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 07:14
I've had read everything that has been post so if what I'm going to say has already been said just tell me to shut up.

If any you have watch the Star Trek Enterprise you'll know what I'm getting at here. For the moment i'm just throwing out idea

NS has seen it's share of wars, from midevil, to future tech. What about a Temporal war. A war fought through out time, in which each side tries to alter key events to change to future in their favor.

We could revisit some of our old RP's and act as observers

Shit like that's going on in SB in the near-future. Not to discourage you or anything...I think Enterprise is a kick-ass show...and that's a good idea of your's. Go for it.
Kaukolastan
15-02-2004, 07:19
I've had read everything that has been post so if what I'm going to say has already been said just tell me to shut up.

If any you have watch the Star Trek Enterprise you'll know what I'm getting at here. For the moment i'm just throwing out idea

NS has seen it's share of wars, from midevil, to future tech. What about a Temporal war. A war fought through out time, in which each side tries to alter key events to change to future in their favor.

We could revisit some of our old RP's and act as observers
My puppet has one of those. Sorry for the plug, but check out the TRSN's "Returning Darkness: Story" thread. It's the story of a guy who's dragged through it.
imported_Cspalla
15-02-2004, 07:20
I've been thinking more through...say Cspalla has become bloated. Extensive holdings in I've been thinking more through...say Cspalla has become bloated. Extensive holdings in Andromeda spawn countless light-years. The government and military are both so huge as almost to defy comprehension. The Cspallan bureaucracy, always huge, is now gigantic. And Robert Fyre, good 'ol Robert Fyre in yet another clone in a long line of them, is having real trouble controlling it all. The stress is driving him mad. He decides, then, to take his newly young body (the clone's growth is accelerated so it starts in mid-20's) and go on an adventure (whatever plot gets worked out for this thing.) Also, time-travelers could be interesting for him. His memories, passed from clone to clone, go back to Cspalla's founding.
Tappee
15-02-2004, 07:21
*Start thinking* should we do as a separte RP to act a lead in to this.
Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 07:24
I've been thinking more through...say Cspalla has become bloated. Extensive holdings in I've been thinking more through...say Cspalla has become bloated. Extensive holdings in Andromeda spawn countless light-years. The government and military are both so huge as almost to defy comprehension. The Cspallan bureaucracy, always huge, is now gigantic. And Robert Fyre, good 'ol Robert Fyre in yet another clone in a long line of them, is having real trouble controlling it all. The stress is driving him mad. He decides, then, to take his newly young body (the clone's growth is accelerated so it starts in mid-20's) and go on an adventure (whatever plot gets worked out for this thing.) Also, time-travelers could be interesting for him. His memories, passed from clone to clone, go back to Cspalla's founding.

Remember though, you aren't too far from me...and then the TorS'la. And Tappee, I really don't think a seperate RP is needed, although you may work it into my Civil War perhaps. Captain Leon Williams is from about 250 years in the future if you hadn't noticed.
imported_Cspalla
15-02-2004, 07:26
Thats true...but then theres the ex-gal holdings. I was actually thinking of moving the capital there anyway.
Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 07:26
Thats true...but then theres the ex-gal holdings. I was actually thinking of moving the capital there anyway.

ex-gal? never heard of it :lol:
imported_Cspalla
15-02-2004, 07:29
Extra-galactic. As in another galaxy. I think I can slag most of whats now Cspalla...Robert Fyre would defend SB to the end...unless the Rebels win the civil war, in which case he might well help the TorS'la. :P
Tappee
15-02-2004, 07:30
Remember though, you aren't too far from me...and then the TorS'la. And Tappee, I really don't think a seperate RP is needed, although you may work it into my Civil War perhaps. Captain Leon Williams is from about 250 years in the future if you hadn't noticed.

Just read the post. Intresting, I'm wondering if it would be appropriate for me to have charcter from the future make an enterence in the RP. I all ready have some idea of who it would be too, would make for nice plot twist. *thinks some more*
Sketch
15-02-2004, 07:32
Anyone else willing to let me run a little behind the scenes manipulation within their goverments/societies? I want to run a sorta "intergalatic" version of the Illuminati here. In return you get to be one the people who crushed the nation of Sketch.

Clarification edit: no war involved. The nation of Sketch was crushed in the distant past. All that's left is the ideals once possessed by its peoples. An Order has arisen (similar to the Illuminati) and now controls all aspects of society from the shadows.
Arani
15-02-2004, 07:33
I think that this shouldn't be just one single roleplay. That way there is no need for a limit. Set up a free forum somewhere, then run it like the NS boards, only with everyone far in the future and so such. Maybe several different boards for the different possible realities of the future nations. In one of these parrellel universes you could be a superpower, while in another you could be a ruin.

Failing that, get everyone starting a thread in 2000 years to put something in the title of their threads, and only nations which go into the future can interact in those threads.

*wonders if he's making any sense...*
Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 07:33
There's more about Eric and Leon here:

Engulfing Creation in Due Time (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2268229)
imported_Cspalla
15-02-2004, 07:34
Parts of my government would be very manipulate-able, although I can't see a scenario where we would go to war.
Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 07:35
I think that this shouldn't be just one single roleplay. That way there is no need for a limit. Set up a free forum somewhere, then run it like the NS boards, only with everyone far in the future and so such. Maybe several different boards for the different possible realities of the future nations. In one of these parrellel universes you could be a superpower, while in another you could be a ruin.

Failing that, get everyone starting a thread in 2000 years to put something in the title of their threads, and only nations which go into the future can interact in those threads.

*wonders if he's making any sense...*

I thought about setting up and Invisionboard...but I didn't think the idea would be liked. Now I might as well ask...should I?

Or perhaps we should begin the RP here...and if it gets good, instead of making a part two, just extend it to the invisionboard...
Roania
15-02-2004, 07:36
Right.

Well, I'll throw something up, and you can see how it works with what you have:

1, 500 years into the future, the island of Novar Ohan sank. Whether by deliberate malice, a failed experiment, or the cruelty of nature, the Roanians were without a home.

Relocating to Pinnacle Base, they set their sights on another planet, a new Novar Ohan. En masse, they took off from Phobos, bidding Sol adieu. The planet they had chosen, however, was settled.

A reptiloid race, the K'na'ssss'ii, dwelled there. They were, needless to say, quite, quite unprepared for the assault that came. Millions of them died as Roanians scoured the planet they had named after their lost home.

At the last, they sued for peace. The Roanians, for once tolerating a non-humanoid race to live, placed them on the moon and declared them to be an equal nation, part of the cause of Pax Roania. The Roanians then made use of their new servants to build great cities on the surface, as well as releasing some of the rescued wildlife into the new environment. (Thus, there are firebirds and direwolves running free still. The Roanians actually like having monsters around)

For 200 years, that was the last anyone heard of the Roanians. Then, in a quick attack, they launched a massive assault on their neighboring systems, humans and K'na'ssss'ii united in the cause of conquest. Several species were wiped out or assimilated, and soon most of the sector was in Roanian hands.

Then they began exploiting the worlds and their peoples. They fell silent once more, as they built a mighty corporation. Flush with wealth, this new Interstellar Trading Consortium began to buy out or destroy the other trading regimes. Within a matter of decades, it was the most powerful corporation in the universe, capable of holding governments at hostage.

Then came the fall. Twin sons were born to Prince Matthius VII. Upon his death, they both claimed the throne. Soon, each were drawing upon human and K'na'ssss'ii nobles and armies, as well as auxilaries from the conquered peoples. The ITC folded, losing its brief power as the empire that spawned it collapsed. Armies of millions fought on every world in the Roanian Sector. The capital city was blasted into a cratered wasteland.

Refugees fled to every corner of the galaxy as the legions of Grand Duke Alexander XX and Grand Duke Edward XIV launched total war on eachother. Every time the refugees met, though, they also coalesced into two sides, each blaming a Grand Duke for the wrongs inflicted upon them, and each proclaiming one of them the true Prince.

Also, and perhaps of more concern to the people of the Orion Sector, there are rumors that both Grand Dukes have, in unison, decided that mixed-breeds are an abomination. This puts Steel Butterfly's shattered remnants in considerable peril, as Inquisitorial White Squads are the few things this galaxy has that can compare in single minded dedication to their objectives with the Tor'sla. What they would think or do to the population of SB, given the chance, is unthinkable.

Ah, the Tor'sla. There have been battles between Roanian forces and the invaders, but neither side has ever had a full victory. The Tor'sla seem to be content, so far, with occasionally probing their defenses, but any hope that they can make use of the Roanian civil war has been thwarted by the general willingness of both Edward's and Alexander's forces to put their differences aside to kill the 'impure'.

Roanian merchants and mercenaries are starting to appear again, outside of their Sector, which means that the decade long conflict might be coming to an end.

However, there are rumors that Roanian weaponry has been spotted amongst the hands of the alien invaders, leaving open the possibility that the humans have, once more, betrayed their fellow man for their own gain.
Tappee
15-02-2004, 07:39
I thought about setting up and Invisionboard...but I didn't think the idea would be liked. Now I might as well ask...should I?

Or perhaps we should begin the RP here...and if it gets good, instead of making a part two, just extend it to the invisionboard...

Would be a good idea.

I'm think that I'm going to create a time police organization, some 350 years from present day.
Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 07:42
I thought about setting up and Invisionboard...but I didn't think the idea would be liked. Now I might as well ask...should I?

Or perhaps we should begin the RP here...and if it gets good, instead of making a part two, just extend it to the invisionboard...

Would be a good idea.

I'm think that I'm going to create a time police organization, some 350 years from present day.

Perhaps they could work with my Temporal Guard?
Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 07:42
So...the question becomes...do we make a thread first...or go straight to the Invisionboard?
Tappee
15-02-2004, 07:43
However to make thinks interesting they are going to recruit people from different time periods to come work them.

Think about if you are going to send some to the Midevil times you want some one that nows the culture a can blend in. Someone born in midevil time would have a easier time of doing so then someone from the future.
Jeruselem
15-02-2004, 07:43
After a deadly civil war, in which the land of Israel/Jeruselem destroyed the Christian remnants of the holocaust will move to a new planet called Jerusalem, the planet of God (ie the exiles in space, 2nd exile)
Roania
15-02-2004, 07:44
Which is easier, SB? Hmm? I'll try to set a board up, if you want.
Tappee
15-02-2004, 07:44
So...the question becomes...do we make a thread first...or go straight to the Invisionboard?

that tough, I would say to go with the board so we have an easier time organizing the thread
imported_Cspalla
15-02-2004, 07:45
Indeed....we could run a few side-RPs in that future too, if we wanted.
Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 07:46
Which is easier, SB? Hmm? I'll try to set a board up, if you want.

No. I'll set it up. It is my founder's day RP afterall :lol:
Arani
15-02-2004, 07:46
Invision, it would be easier to organise and have everything worked out. More people would be able to get in and there would be more opportunities. Those who are not allowed in could just be banned.
Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 07:49
Well...now that we're on a roll...why not take it a step further?

Say the invisionboard is seperated into two sections.

One is the 2000 years in the future thing...except a small variation...the future is absolutely horrible. There is little good, compared to some of your descriptions "kinda good" state.

The other is about 250-300 years in the future. All of our nations banded together to form a Temporal Guard, an alliance of sorts. Realizing what happens in the future, the Guard tries to fix it for the nations involved, while outwardly saying that they're maintaining the timeline.

Opinions?
15-02-2004, 07:50
As long as I can join, role play Fairly, and have fun at the same time with Fellow Role Players, I'm fine with it. :)
Tappee
15-02-2004, 07:51
Well...now that we're on a roll...why not take it a step further?

Say the invisionboard is seperated into two sections.

One is the 2000 years in the future thing...except a small variation...the future is absolutely horrible. There is little good, compared to some of your descriptions "kinda good" state.

The other is about 250-300 years in the future. All of our nations banded together to form a Temporal Guard, an alliance of sorts. Realizing what happens in the future, the Guard tries to fix it for the nations involved, while outwardly saying that they're maintaining the timeline.

Opinions?

Sounds good to me. If it ok I'm going to start up a thread were we can introduce some of our characters.

What I'm thinking is that a team is being assemble to go back in time for some kinda of mission.

Thats assuming that its OK with SB.
imported_Cspalla
15-02-2004, 07:52
I like the overall idea, except it seems a little unrealistic to assume all these nations have fallen to complete despair. Power vacuum kind of deal. SOMEBODY must have power somewhere.
Kaukolastan
15-02-2004, 07:54
SB, great idea. The man sees the terrible future, and goes back to tell the others, and they try to fix things. Things could spiral out of control, and eventually be brought into alignment... or not.
Roania
15-02-2004, 07:55
Well...now that we're on a roll...why not take it a step further?

Say the invisionboard is seperated into two sections.

One is the 2000 years in the future thing...except a small variation...the future is absolutely horrible. There is little good, compared to some of your descriptions "kinda good" state.

The other is about 250-300 years in the future. All of our nations banded together to form a Temporal Guard, an alliance of sorts. Realizing what happens in the future, the Guard tries to fix it for the nations involved, while outwardly saying that they're maintaining the timeline.

Opinions?

I don't think my future is kinda good. I think it's awful. Pretty damn bad, in fact.

Civil war, planets blown up, alien invaders...
Kaukolastan
15-02-2004, 07:55
I like the overall idea, except it seems a little unrealistic to assume all these nations have fallen to complete despair. Power vacuum kind of deal. SOMEBODY must have power somewhere.
There would be power, it wouldn't have to be a GOOD kind of power.
Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 07:55
I like the overall idea, except it seems a little unrealistic to assume all these nations have fallen to complete despair. Power vacuum kind of deal. SOMEBODY must have power somewhere.

Perhaps the aliens? I don't know...I'm going pretty far sci-fi here...
imported_Cspalla
15-02-2004, 07:59
That could work....oooh. I just had a jucy idea. Cspalla has been hiding in Andromeda for centuries now, relatively safe and growing. But now the Andromeda are ,moving in, and Cspalla's ass is being quite skillfully kicked. Have that going on as a sideline mess to the events in the milky way. Give my guys more to worry about, too.

{edit: post 1000! yay! ;)}
Sketch
15-02-2004, 08:00
I like the overall idea, except it seems a little unrealistic to assume all these nations have fallen to complete despair. Power vacuum kind of deal. SOMEBODY must have power somewhere.

Dammit! I will become a power vacuum! I will become a secret society spanning the galaxy! I will influence every aspect of your pitiful lives! And don't you forget it!
Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 08:01
Well...now that we're on a roll...why not take it a step further?

Say the invisionboard is seperated into two sections.

One is the 2000 years in the future thing...except a small variation...the future is absolutely horrible. There is little good, compared to some of your descriptions "kinda good" state.

The other is about 250-300 years in the future. All of our nations banded together to form a Temporal Guard, an alliance of sorts. Realizing what happens in the future, the Guard tries to fix it for the nations involved, while outwardly saying that they're maintaining the timeline.

Opinions?

I don't think my future is kinda good. I think it's awful. Pretty damn bad, in fact.

Civil war, planets blown up, alien invaders...

I wasn't saying that your future was good
Arani
15-02-2004, 08:01
Split it into three sections. The two you mentioned, plus one which is totally unrelated, which is neither horrible nor wonderful, but only what you make it. Like NS is now, only 2000 years in the future.
Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 08:09
I like the overall idea, except it seems a little unrealistic to assume all these nations have fallen to complete despair. Power vacuum kind of deal. SOMEBODY must have power somewhere.

Dammit! I will become a power vacuum! I will become a secret society spanning the galaxy! I will influence every aspect of your pitiful lives! And don't you forget it!

Would you settle for moderator of the boards?

Lol...speaking of that...I'll have to get mods :twisted:
Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 08:14
On another note, Sketch and AMF need to check telegrams.
Crimmond
15-02-2004, 08:33
OOC: I shall hjoin and shall be the one semi-super power currently that will NOT fall into utter crap.

Crimmond 500 years from now loses yet another leader and undergoes another short power struggle. At the end, the military rules and the self imposed ban on FTL travel is lifted, allowing the Imperial Totality to strive for the galaxy after being stuck in one system for so many centuries.

700: Another power struggle and an insuing civil war leaves the military in shambles and the pacifists in power. The naval forces are rebuilt to a viable defense level for colonies throughout the galaxy. The Stardock over Europe(just completed by Present day Crimmond) is allowed to make a semi-controlled reentry, slamming into Magic Crater, killing several hundred roaches with laser starpped to their backs.

1000: Pacifists are pressed into a short war with an unkown force, who quickly realizes it isn't worth it to go after Earth and instead invades some undeveloped area of the galaxy. Military scaled up a bit, UN classification goes from Father Knows Best State to Benevolent Dictatorship. Crimmond controlled Europe is a seeming utopia.

1500: Another powerstruggle leave the scientists in power. Military tecnology, medicine, new fuels, new powerplants and genetic growth of humans and various species advanced to seemingly impossible levels.

2,000: Crimmond, an Intra-Galactic(one Galaxy) super power holds one of the smallest crime rates, smallest police forces and smallest military to population ratios. The pacifists are in power again. The military is made up of entirely geneticly grown soldiers, made specificly for a certian purpose in a war. They have not been used for 200 years, as the diplomatic corps handles all disputes involving Crimmond, being requested by several nations to settle matters they cannot.

All in all, Crimmond turns into the next Kits, only with a Galaxy wide influence.
Canada-Germany
15-02-2004, 08:45
Well, if my participation in your Current Civil War thread goes well (or at least, a lot better than It has, as I really haven't had a lot to say so far, lol) I'd like to be in this.

Canada-Germany in the future?

The country of Canada-Germany, 2000 years from now would probably be large series of nuclear crators.

A couple of months (subjective time) from now, a large nuclear explotion will take out much of the Capital city, Prime Minister Stanley Ipkiss and Guardian Protector Jee Leng Tan.

The son of Gee Leng Tan, Lt. Hong Gui Tan, will assume the position of provisional Leader of the Government until a New PM can be choosen.

Soon after, it is discovered that a certine group of Elves, that had previously been corrupted by Melkor's dark powers (of course, he probably didn't know he did it, so, meh,). I won't go into too much detail here.

Anyways. As Hong had already been deafened and blinded by an explosion in a fight with these Rebels, he wasn't exactly... pleased.

(See here: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=87006&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 )

These corrupted Elves form a new nation of their own, which is promptly invaded by Canada-Germany with the newly elected Prime Minister Hong Gui Tan, who also holds his father's title making him the one most powerful guy in all of C-G.

The corrupted Elven Nation is completely destroyed, killing many many MANY elves. As you can imagine, Lady Siri is not pleased with this. Why?
Well, many Elves are publicly broadcasted as begging and pleading for their lives. Subsiquently, they are beated brutally and then killed. By now, it's probably been summerised that Hong Gui has gone alittle nuts.

Siri moves in with her battle fleets and demands that Hong Gui surrender and be put through a Trial for WarCrimes.

Hong refuses. Siri subsiquently blows up a city or two, though many of her
shots don't get through because of the 10,000 (in total) Man Enables (S.B knows what I'm talking about, but for info go here:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=112732&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
and follow the links, lol.)

Anyways, to make a long story short, battle between Siri's Fleet and my forces. My country gets Slagged really badly. (hopefully, it's due to both Space AND ground forces, but whatever, lol)

At this point, Project Last Resort pokes it's ugly head out of the hole:
( http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=48608&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Info about the project is under the title: "Project Last Resort")

Through the many many multiple low yield Atomic bombs it takes to lift these monsters up into space, any ground forces... or really, any people in general still left on the ground, well, they would be screwed over very badly.

On these, what can only be described as monsterous Battle Stations, the remaining Enableds, Man and Natural, will battle, and eventually win over the Menelcamair Fleets. They will then Sue of Peace. :lol:

Hopefully it's granted, otherwise, they will have to quickly "warp" (not really, but kinda, it's kinda like being moved REALLY FAST via Telekenetics) out of close earth space into the Astroid belt. If they have to fight their way out, only 3 will survive the battle. If they don't, 5 should make it out ok.

Hong, who survived all the battles, will be Mind Burned beyond repair, however, because he was increadibly poweriful in the Psyonics department, and because of how much energy he used in that last battle, he will seem to sink into a state of suspended animation while mind burned. IE: by the time 2000 years past, it'll be like he only aged 15 years.

By the time Hong wakes up, Canada-Germany will have spread through out the astroid belt, basicly colonising the entire thing through necessity, have gotten FTL, through necessity, and is now a peaceful society, for the most part, though some aspects of it will be VERY military, filled with a large majority of Natually Enableds, about 3 million of them, but who cannot attack someone unless attacked first due to society restraints and upbringing.

Hong sets off to try and recover his sanity and soul. This is how he'll probably end up near the destroyed Empire of Steel Butterfly.

(Some of these ideas may be changed depending on wheither Siri doesn't want to have anything to do with my country.)
15-02-2004, 09:51
Watertest along with several other countries become a bloodthirsty dictatorship superpower that puts Melkor to shame. :wink:

In the year 2092, one hundred and twenty five years after man's momentous Apollo 11 mission to the moon, the four-member crew of the Starship Excelsior became the first the first humans to travel to another star system (System X). The celebrations and excitement on Earth were intense, to say the least. Wild parties were thrown which taxed the resources of police departments around the world, the media was caught up in a frenzied coverage of the event, politicians praised their own efforts and Jonathon Browning, a nondescript technician at the sprawling SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) Institute in Rome received the first communication from an alien species (Jahuni Aliens).

The Watertest Empire is aghast at the message. Humanity shared a collective sense of rage and indignation. Far from the over-popularized demand of "Take me to your leader", the message is a polite but obviously threatening warning, advising mankind never to leave their Solar System again or risk war with a technologically advanced alien species. After months of heated debate and political maneuvering, the reply was broadcast into deep space, a challenging request that the aliens mind their own business and steer clear of humanity's expansion into the galaxy.

The response of the aliens is swift and horribly brutal. A fleet of streamlined starships enter Earth's orbit a few weeks later and without provocation or a hint of warning, proceed to bombard the proud capital cities of the world powers. The resulting chaos plunge Earth into a new Dark Age.

Economies stall and crash, countries descended into mayhem and war, famine is widespread and the situation is exacerbated by the accidental launch of a handful of nuclear missiles from various locations around the globe. Fighting against war, famine, long-forgotten diseases, radioactive hotspots and economic ruin, it takes almost ten years for a new order to emerge, one ruled by the iron-fisted influence of the new age Corporations.

Over 1,000 years order is returned to the world under the control of the Corporations. But a fatal shortage of food and raw resources is the only stumbling block to their domination of the planet. Research into space travel is resurrected. In the New Age economies, private companies and entrepreneurs invest funds into the research and slowly a gradual process of integration and alliances gave birth to the first Clans, great organizations that encompassed Corporations, their allies and entire populations. The dawning of the first Warp Engine Drive, combining old Ion Propulsion Engines with experimental Wormhole technology, act as a catalyst to speed up the development of spaceships capable of instantaneous interstellar travel.

Earth's orbit becomes cluttered with dozens of orbiting Manufacturing Stations churning out advanced spacecraft to serve the needs of the Clans. Freighters, Battleships, Harvester ships for mining, Colony ships and single-pilot Fighters are built as well as a host of other exotic starships. Rivalry and competition resultes in spates of sabotage and industrial espionage as the Clans fought for supremacy of the new technologies that were being developed day by day.

The first interstellar starships leave the Sol system and expand the reach of the Clans to other star systems. These early exploratory missions are to act as the platform from which to launch an all out assault on the galaxy. Star Systems are mapped and explored for signs of fuel or metals, whether from meteorites or planets. Aliens are encountered but humanity's fleets of advanced spacecraft are able to repel many of the attacks. New alliances and peace treaties are signed but the aggressiveness and savagery of other extraterrestrial species lead to many attacks and raids.

As mankind continues to expand, and alliances began to form, and a new power arises called the Tucsan Empire. After a series of invasions and annexations, the Tucsan Empire becomes the most powerful empire in the Solar System. The Tucsans, still bitter about the Jahuni Aliens bombardment of Earth invade Solar System X in 3907, After a bloody 43 year war ending with a decisive victory over the Jahuni capital plant, the Tuscan government enslaves the entire alien population of Jahuni. After the Tucsan-Jahuni war, hundreds of planets are left defenseless against the enraged and bloodthirsty Tucsans. 500 planets are conquered by the Tucsans making them a major Galactic Superpower. Massive war factories are built and entire planets are devoted to cloning genetically modified human soldiers. By 4004 AD the empire has an estimated army of 51.3 billion soldiers under their disposal.

A little farfetched I know :roll:
California and Alaska
15-02-2004, 10:53
Well depending on the outcome of World War VI I am hoping that mainland California will still be intact and that the nation has put away its imperial ambitions to focus more on its people and economy.
Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 16:41
bump...cause it's the original! 8)
Slutbum Wallah
15-02-2004, 16:48
Slutbum Wallah will be a great big desert infested with giant man-eating insects. The few true humans who remain live deep underground where they clone enourmous armies of humans genetically engineered to follow orders and never complain. They send out these huge forces to battle the insects in a never ending genocidal war.
15-02-2004, 16:57
Aaah .. Sleep is a wonderful thing *rubs eyes*

So ... Invision Board? well, Steel, I'd like to be a mod there of course but it's completely up to you. Here's my idea for Haraki's history.

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Until about five hundred years from now, Haraki remained a stable country, building up its technological knowledge and size, yet still being a liberal yet surprisingly powerful nation, working hand-in-hand with Steel Butterfly to develop time travel technology. The descendants of several people (Jaime Walf for one, he's my Prime Minister currently) continued to shift around the Prime Minister seat between four families and their descendant, for 500 years.

The nation of Haraki continued to expand into the galaxy, becoming larger and larger, yet still maintaing its current size on the earth. Half that became one massive city, with factories spanning for multiple kilometers and an industrial district managing to keep production down and pollution down as well. The other half fo the country stayed as country land, and the people were happy.

Five hundred years from now, a failed coup, with the aid of several smaller nations bordering Haraki both in space and on the ground, attacking Haraki's homeland, tore Haraki into disrepair. The Prime Minister at the time, one Richard Grant, was mortally injured in the assassination attempt, and placed in cryogenic freeze until such time as medical reseacrh had progressed far enough to destroy the wound and the virus plaguing his body.

Meanwhile, in the confusion following the successful assassination attempt on the Prime Minister, three smaller nations invaded Haraki. The entire ground army of Haraki in the Homeland and all the reserves were called out to defend Atherlon, the massive city, which started produciong more and more, pollution beginning to become an increasingly large problem. However, the Haraki defenses held. Soon the country land around Haraki became war-torn, over a war that lasted ten years and still failed to capture Haraki.

The leader of the military forces of Haraki declared martial law while the Navy fought back the attacks of the other nations in space and the army defended Haraki on the ground. He seized control of Haraki, supposedly until the Prime Minister recovered, but maintained a stranglehold on Haraki until his dying day.

Ten years later, the Commander of Haraki forces declared victory over their enemies. The enemies withdrew, leaving Haraki with a battered but functional military, which the Commander continued to strengthen. The industrial districts of the cities in Haraki doubled in size, and pollution rose to four times the levels it had been at five hundred years from now. The land around Atherlon, in Haraki's homeland, became barren and dark, the clouds blackened from the pollution, until the sun no longer shone on Haraki.

The Commander maintained a hold on Haraki until the day he died, but he was fair and benevolent, simple conservative and product-driven. His son took his position and was the same, and the chain continued, father-to-son, for 200 years.

750 years from now, a man took the position of Commander and, the day his father died, declared himself openly the Emperor of Haraki and declaring his intentions to be to destroy all enemies of Haraki, past or present. The factories' output doubled under his rule, and the military tripled in size, invading the smallest country that had attacked them 250 years ago, and destroying it in a matter of months, claiming its land for Haraki's, and making it churn out products for the produciton line of Haraki's war machine.

He waited not even two years before invading the second country that had attacked them, and crushing it before 755 years had passed. He left the third one alone, until the day he died. He simply continued to build up Haraki's military might. The citites acquired slums, terrible slums with millionn upon millions of people living on the street, dying of cold, hunger, and malnourishment. And still the Emperor kept building, making his Empire stronger and stronger.

On the day he died, he told his son, who he raised to be just like him, to destroy the third country, the largest one, that only when they were destroyed would his spirit be put to rest. Taking up his father's crown, the son obeyed.

This war lasted three generations of leaders, until the year 900, when a revolution in Haraki killed the Emperor and signed a ceasefire with the remaining country. The front line was the same as it had been when the war started, over a hundred years ago.

The line of Emperors continued, good emperors, bad emperors, benevolent, and cruel, until the people of Haraki became numb to the effects of the people ruling them. Now, 2000 years after the present, a weak, young Emperor is ruling, but most people know he si being controlled by his advisors, he is simply a puppet. His father would be ashamed to see him.

Haraki has been caught in a war for 250 years now, with *Fill in enemy here. Aliens, different country, whatever, I can't think of anything yet* and is no nearer a victory than ever before. The Navy is off fighting wars in several godforsaken systems, a war started for no reason. No-one can even remember why the war started, or who started it, but all they know is no human in Haraki, life extended or not, can remember seeing the start of this war.

The battle is being fought in No-Man's Land, with a secret war being fought behing the scenes. A temporal war, each of them sending trained time travellers back in time to try and affect major events of the war. Sometimes it works, and a major battle will change to the other side winning, and the present will be different, but not by very much. In 250 years no-one has come close to winning this war, and they're not close now.

Away from the fighting, the poverty gap has widened immensely, and all of Haraki's homeland has been consumed into one city, half of which is slums and the other half industrial sections. The captured land of the other nations, what little of it is on earth, are fields of production units, wastelands (If you're imagining what they look like, imagine the mindfields from the Matrix), and broken cities. The sky is black with smog and pollution, and no-one can remember when it was blue.

Haraki has power, but it is drawn away in a pointless war out on the far reaches of their territory. The citizens are unhappy, and a group based out of the slums of Atherlon, calling themselves the Righteous Alliance, are preparing a revolution.

This is the world Richard Grant, the last surviving Prime Minister of Haraki, awakes to. The wound gradually healed over time, the bullet now encased in hsi ribs, but his body working around it, and the virus burned itself out, but not before leaving him with strange attributes. An unusually sharp mind, for instance, and lightning fast reflexes.

And he looks at the Newsnet, awakening in an abandoned building in the slums of Haraki, as his cryogenics unit burns itself out after 1500 years of use. The building was abandoned hundreds of years ago, but Grant was forgotten. Now he wakes up and steps out into the slums of Atherlon ... And sees what disrepair has been caused in his absence.

A lot of things are about to happen.
Celack
15-02-2004, 17:12
Okay since I have no chance of completing my hill ville rp which would set the stage for my contribution (BTW Haraki I tged youabout it and you ignored me....) Anyways Hill ville manages to sneak several large containers ships full of troops out of country and they attack celack while formenting civil war with a militant christian group. Celack invades hill ville and conwuers it but the civil war was lost by teh government. The new dictator declares pshyco rabbit to be the tool of the devil and they should be executed. In response 1,000,000 of them highjack Space colony ships and fly out ibnto space forming the celackian space empire. Land Celack blows it self up.



Now to space, SB civil war ends and Celakc either wins or loses.
Doesn't amtter. Celackian premier is asshole. Almost assinates Kanosis. Kanosis escapes and becomes bountry hunter, (set stage for warheit 3). At the end Kanosis killed Celackian premier and is yanked throught time 2000 years in the future, (again). Celack disolves in anarchy with each planet it owns becommming it's own empire. He tries to regroup them all to stop some sort of invasion from somebody else. (Harki just read yours. It's some of the planets that are attacking you.?)
Steel Butterfly
15-02-2004, 18:15
bump...cause it's the original! 8)

and...again!
CoreWorlds
15-02-2004, 20:44
Ok, here is the deal with my nation's future.

2100:
Several colonies are established and thrive in the Solar System and local group of stars. Hyperspace is discovered, but it's still rather slow (unless I buy engines from various nations).

2200:
Hyperspace engines speed up, turning the Republic into an Imperialistic Republic. The population expands past 1000 light years, and scouts are sent to farther places to map out the galaxy and establish trade routes.

2500:
The Republic becomes a Benevolent Empire, and a short war is fought against minor enemies who are jealous of our power. We are victorious.

2750:
A civil war threatens to tear the nation in two as a maniacal Emperor strikes again. The Emperor is defeated by the Jedi Knights, led by my descendants after a long and horrible battle.

3900:
After over a thousand years of relative peace, a slaver race of demon-like aliens attacks the nation, decimating the fleet and destroying the Masaki family line, down to the (almost) last child. Two children out of many descendants manage to survive the assassination, but they are enslaved along with much of the rest of the population. The Jedi are scattered among the stars, barely holding on to life with several million free people.

4004:
The Shiuldans (may change), as the race is called, seek to hunt down and destroy the last of the resistance. The reptilians, upon reaching a free colony, decimate it, leaving not even a single child alive as they poke massive holes the hulls and plastiglass of the colonies (a most horrble death for those who should not die).

The saga begins, as the remnant of CoreWorlds struggle to survive... (Star Wars theme music plays)
Steel Butterfly
16-02-2004, 00:58
Jedi Knights? Could you be a bit more...original?
Crimmond
16-02-2004, 03:48
Jedi Knights? Could you be a bit more...original?His nation is run by Jedi. From what I've seen, a lot of what he does is pulled right from the movies.
Slutbum Wallah
16-02-2004, 03:51
What's so terrible about that?
CoreWorlds
16-02-2004, 04:16
Sigh, I wish people wouldn't be so...blanket-ignore about Jedi. I don't use them all the time, only for my own RPs, but it's really sad that I can't enjoy weaving Jedi into some RPs. Am I really that bad of an RPer, just because I have Jedi running my nation? and besides, I tend to use modern equipment all the time. :cry:
Slutbum Wallah
16-02-2004, 15:27
Steel, this is probably nothing but thw words SO-12 don't mean anything to you do they?
Jitano
16-02-2004, 15:37
in 2000 years?

2100: the fleet will be utterly massive by this point prompting other nations to begin trying to slow my arms development down

2200: a large scale war involving many allies on both sides will be fought, i will come outon top but with many casualties and a much reduced fleet

2300: due to the size of the former fleet i will still be recouping losses

2400: expect to encounter some ofrm of alien life on another world, probably a shoot first ask questions later sort of thing, begina a very drawn out war


3000: end of war successfully, again heavy casualties

3500: fleet restored, peace reigning, trade flourishing

4000: gradual breakup of empire as last imperial house dies out
Steel Butterfly
16-02-2004, 16:00
Steel, this is probably nothing but thw words SO-12 don't mean anything to you do they?

no...they don't...

Anyhow...with the response I've gotten...the Jedi can stand.
Steel Butterfly
16-02-2004, 16:12
...what do they mean?
Slutbum Wallah
16-02-2004, 16:18
Spec-Op 12 or Special Operations group 12. The Chronoguard. They're an organization in a book I read similar to the time police guys you were creating, and with the name being quite close as well I thought you might be making a reference.
Steel Butterfly
17-02-2004, 03:34
Spec-Op 12 or Special Operations group 12. The Chronoguard. They're an organization in a book I read similar to the time police guys you were creating, and with the name being quite close as well I thought you might be making a reference.

interesting...perhaps great minds think alike? :lol:
Valinon
17-02-2004, 04:18
OOC: SB, please check your telegrams.
Roania
17-02-2004, 10:13
All right, SB ma man, when's it goin' down?
Pablicosta
17-02-2004, 11:07
If you'l let me in....


In 4004 Pablicosta will be much changed in part, but also similar. Due to technological advances we will have harnessed time travel, but this ability is not over used. We will also have the capbility of using our current project, the space tunnel, to travel through Lightyears of space in seconds.
The space colonies will be thriving on both PSC1, and PSC2 although PSC3 (Pablicosta Space Colony #-Gigantic space stations which are all identical) was destroyed by a stray nuclear warhead.
In 3489 we engaged in conflict with advanced "alien" species. The war lasted for 2 years, when Pablicosta was forced to launch multiple Inter Galactic Bio Chemical nuclear warheads to wipe out a majjority of the species.
Due to a mass population rise in 40's (The 2840's that is) our population stands at 112 Bilion, resulting in the expansion of territory to other plantes close to The Earth. However, when other nations encounted the same problem in later years, we decided it best to allow them the use of the "natural planets" and move our space planet dwellers to one of our artificially created Planet habitation Sites.
Our government has been through many changes, a breif spell as a Nazi Dictator state was experienced, which sparked the Pablicostan Civil war in 3010. The government was overthrown and in its place was put A peace loving democracy, who lean towards the left.
Now we live in realtive peace with our neighbours, and hope to continue as such.


Ps:LE'ME IN!!!!!!
High Orcs
17-02-2004, 17:37
With the inevitable fall of Arda, the title of EnheilRas will change place nearly 33 times. As former allies squabble amongst themselves what to do with the ruins, the High Orcish clans will mobilize to unite all Orcs and all lesser races together into the form of a single community. Nearly all lower races and demihumans save Dwarves and Elves will one day follow the clans as they sail through nations in an eon-long war of Orcish liberation, where they search out nations who would have been foolhardy enough to enslave their kind to free them. Seeing the success of the EnheilRas, other nations will begin to march under the banter.

Since these campaigns have nothing to do about killing elves, most of the "light side" will ignore the EnheilRas search for freedom. Many will be surprised when the Elves begin to assist the Orcish clans slaughter and punish those whom would have wronged their Orcish brethren. When chaos is at it's peak, and it seems all Orcs, Trolls, Uruk-Hai, wyverns, goblins, and Hob-goblins are pounced to strike and rip through the world in a horde that should destroy creation, they will just sail away on the celestial winds. Not to be seen or heard from in eons.