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Is there any one specific nation that you would hesitate to engage in a war? Some player who through size/population/skill would just trash you? This is not for a future RP, and the info wont be used against you, I'm just curious.

Right now, there's no nation who I fear. I don't think I'm invincible, and I know that it's very possible that I'll lose a war (or a rebellion, or an assasination, or...........), but at my nations current economic boon, my military strength, and my good relations with other nations, I think that I could put up a good enough fight for any nation that a war would not be worth it (then again, so did a whole bunch of other nations who I've seen conquered and annexed without the conqueror even breathing hard).

So, anybody you fear?

Oh, and please don't say how you could easily beat me in a war. Or how you could beat somebody else. And don't go bragging if somebody says they fear you. This is just a little thing I'm curious about, I don;t want people getting angry over this.

Nah, not really.

We're not afraid of anyone really. Todeskopf is our biggest fear, because they're right on our border and very militant. Of the active RPing nations no one really threatens us.

Same here. No real worries on that end.

We fear no one. Our space forces provide us with a sense of security.

Yeah... I don't have any one who scares me (besides the almighty people who decide to delete nations)...

Cant say I am really afraid as a Nation, its more the bad RPer Im afraid of, even if you go up against someone who could flatten you in a second, but they are a good roleplayer, yes, you die.. but you have fun doing it. As apposed to, 'I laugh at you , you miniscule population, eat my Galaxy Cannon of Death' type of scenario.

So, what? Nobody fears me? Aw man, I thought there'd have already been like 10 people cowering in terror!

What!?? Ehh??.. oh!! gotcha..

Our Warrior bowels turn to water, and mothers milk curdles in the breast at the mere mention of your name in my lands..

happy?

OOC: I admit I feel rather invincible. It could lead to my downfall...<_< >_>

What!?? Ehh??.. oh!! gotcha..

Our Warrior bowels turn to water, and mothers milk curdles in the breast at the mere mention of your name in my lands..

happy?

Quite.

And I can't help but agree with you, the bad RPers scare the **** out of me

Iansisle is positively terrified of the People’s Commonwealth of Beth Gellert. Despite the change in leadership since the New Tiamat Crisis, Iansisle has planned its defensive strategy around the assumption that someday, the Igos of the world are going to come over and exploit their smashing victory at the Battle of Salvador.

As such, a brave face is officially kept on to hide the national feeling of impotence where the People’s Commonwealth is concerned: Beth Gellern achievements are largely belittled and mocked, their nationals on Iansislean soil are pushed about and insulted, and the government spends a fortune building monuments to attest to “Iansislean moral fortitude” and in memory of the “heroes of Salvador” (most of whom, it should be noted, are so remembered for either dying or running away).

... hmmm.... nations that scare me.... 4 day old nations that say they have 1803519683461987346184192689812639162498 n00x and will blow my nation to h311.

but really? no one in particular. our high defense budget and growing army equals a quite happy and non-scarable nation... unless your scolo der mod or melkor... but thats cause of their mod powers. i think 1000 snipers could take out a couple thousand orcs by the time they came and killed em.... more if i had 1000 long range grenadiers.

Perhaps its due to my lack of NS combat RPing, but I'm a bit hesitant to bother fighting Omz222, provided he's/she's still around. Maybe that's because they've supplied me with most of my aircraft...

Considering that I don't RP here anymore, I'd have to say that I do not fear anyone.

- Sovy K.

Well, my main character is immortal (not invincible, mind you; just immortal), so he basically fears no one. Once I post his takeover of a country, and start RPing with this as a nation as well as a character, I'll try to avoid confrontations with any country large enough to slaughter my entire population without any great effort. For now, though, none.


Except Klonor, of course. Kazar-Tiyon takes great care to avoid the borders of that mighty nation. (cowers in terror)

Possibly Roania, as well. I have a feeling the Inquisition would put a great deal of effort into capturing K-T, if they ever had a run-in with him. I could be wrong... but I doubt it.

Klonor, why would you ever be afraid of Klonor??? :lol:

Just kiddin there buddy dont waste me or nuthin. :P

Yep. I am afraid of the big two. Melkor and Siri.

Not them in themselves though. You piss them off and yopu have fifty nations pulling out guns. They don't need to do a damn thing except say a few words and I'm toast... That kind of influence, to get others to willingly lay down their soldiers lives for you... that's damn scary.

Also, I am afraid of Auman. Yep good old Anti-Funtism. You know why? His military is as insane as mine. And my captains will ram enemy fleets while blowing the ship up if they lose weapons. That's hell on the budget.

Tor Yvresse is the only nation we really have to worry about...we've tangled with them on two seperate occassions and both times we trounced him...so we're not to worried, its just he's the only one to pose a threat out of any of the nations around.

Huh, nobody's afraid of us?
-The Federation of Warmongering Lunatics

The only nation I will openly say I am positively afraid of is Sirithil... just the mere fact that California borders Sirithil in North America, Africa, and in the Persian Gulf a war could be sparked in any of those three regions. throw in the fact that she outnumbers California by about 800 people.

I will say thats alot to be afraid of, other than that I am sure I haven't pissed off anyone to the point where I may have to worry about them ending California's quest to build its empire.

Sketch is worried of no one nation. However, the growing instablities of the NS alliances is worrisome. Sketch is traditionally a loner nation, and thus vulnerable to a large coalition of hostile nations who are able and willing to work in cooperation. There will be a day when such like-minded nations will band together and tempt fate. While Sketch will be ultimately victorious, it will be at no small cost. Thus leaving us open to the mercies of an unmerciful community.

How can states actually go to war? How can you lose control of your nation-state? I lead a rebellion in a region, but the creator can just boot you from the region... it just doesn't make sense.

Tough question. Do I fear a nation?

Yes, I do. I do not fear the moderators because they have mod powers. Moreover, I do not fear them because I have no reason to. For as long as I recall, there has not been one engagement with my nation and any of their's. Therefore, I do not fear a fear that does not exist.

However, speaking from a more to level role playing fear, there is one nation I fear. Just one. One "little" West Pacific nation that is at my throat with a "butter knife".

Now, if I fear them there must be more reasons than just a threat, but because they have an ingenious mind. I have long been at war with this nation's puppets, but the mastermind behind them does not get involved. Why? Because he is a tactical genious. He knows that he could eliminate me in one stroke of his little finger, but what fun would that be to him. He is clever and has amazing story plots and ideas.

It is a shame that he is currently inactive due to some serious problems in his life. I just want to give credit to this "little" West Pacific nation who has been the only successful nation to install fear in me. If you ever went to war with him, you would see exactly what I mean.

Fear for the nation Mahanoy. But only if you piss him off.

Possibly Roania, as well. I have a feeling the Inquisition would put a great deal of effort into capturing K-T, if they ever had a run-in with him. I could be wrong... but I doubt it.We may go to war with Roania sometime, so be on the lookout for that.

We're deathly afraid of both Melkor and Siri, as well as Panterra. However, we look strong in front of these nations, as we must.

The only real threat to us at this time is Roania, but they're more of a joke among the Resian people than anything else. :wink:

How can states actually go to war? How can you lose control of your nation-state? I lead a rebellion in a region, but the creator can just boot you from the region... it just doesn't make sense.

You roleplay it. :wink:

Siri.

Definitely Siri.

Oh, and Baggera.

Because if I blew Baggera up, what would I do for entertainment?

Belem is a nation that we fear

If you're hunting, and your prey is afraid, it means you have already given yourself away and are risking losing your prey....

If you're hunting, and your prey is afraid, it means you have already given yourself away and are risking losing your prey....
Ah! So that's why nobody's mentioned us!
-The Federation of Warmongering Lunatics

I'm not afraid because I have three puppet nations, all except one with populations over 100+ million, so, I have adequate back-up, as well as plenty of allies in the ALSN region. *smirk* I AM INVINCIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Belem is a nation that we fear
You really don't have to. He's universally recognized as an idiot.

~Siri

We tend to have a smaller offensive military, but deep defensive reserves.
Thus, we fear almost anyone who'll use Nukes or Bio, and we try to avoid pissing anyone off badly enough to have to face 'em alone.

If you are afraid, then your enemy has already won. Wretchengard has no use for fear, save to wield it.

I'm not afraid because I have three puppet nations, all except one with populations over 100+ million, so, I have adequate back-up, as well as plenty of allies in the ALSN region. *smirk* I AM INVINCIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It isn't proper to use them unless you have an IC reason. Besides, 100 million isn't that much....

The Demonic Army of the Vaxintorians fears nothing except the D'zukaru.
(Vaxintorians aren't noted for their intelligence)
http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/contrib/icw/019.gif

A numberwanker.

Zeronia fears no one. :x

The only fear we have is that we may stray from the narrow path of the Righteous and into damnation ...

im afraid of EVERYONE! :P

im afraid of EVERYONE! :P
Even us? Yay! :D At last, someone is afraid of us!
-The Federation of Warmongering Lunatics

I usually was afraid of Melkor, not anymore since the Mars victory. All those fancy eldar tanks and ships I developed were useful at last...Now, maybe the bigger ones, the ToY and a handful of others, anyway they don't pay much attention to me, so...

1 on 1 speaking, Wazzu believes itself to be quite stable. It fears only the more competent (very well RPed) and older/populous nations to be any signifigant threat.

But too often, threats are a matter of alliances. Wazzu is on good terms with most of the free world, including ToY, elvish, and most Martian nations...but its formal alliances are limited. Wazzu tries to remain neutral in most conflicts, but to no back down when its interests are threatened.

The forign nations that have the biggest impact on Wazzu defense for either allied, enemy, or potential threat status include: Menelmacar and Melkor (of course) with all their groupies, Sunset (a major Wazzu ally), EOTED (a still recognized potential threat), most ToY nations (as a strong alliance, though one Wazzu trades with), Raem/Manmen and Tor Yvresse (for the sheer ability to use webgates), Devils Desert (region) nations (for competence and hidden power), and a few others.

Wazzu does NOT see most space powers as a serious threat, only as a potentially costly nuisance to interplanetary (and increasingly interstellar) shipping. As such, it affects Wazzu policy in more of a "coast guard" rather then "vital defense" manner.

Note that Wazzu's inter-relationship with most nations is fairly complex, especially when taken in all. Nations may be precieved as both a threat or an ally depending on circumstance. That is why I say those nations strongly affect Wazzu defense policy without labeling them strictly "friend" or "foe" or saying what their effect on policy is.

Belem is a nation that we fear
You really don't have to. He's universally recognized as an idiot.

~Siri

Number whore, poor Role player and idiot...If I missed any please feel free to add to the list. I almost squashed him like a bug before the AF got deleted...actually I was going to do it the day my nation was deleted! :x

Siri.

Definitely Siri.

Oh, and Baggera.

Because if I blew Baggera up, what would I do for entertainment?I've actually ben thinking of letting Baggera die and absorbing it into Crimmond...

I fear no one.

Belem is a nation that we fear
You really don't have to. He's universally recognized as an idiot.

~Siri

Number whore, poor Role player and idiot...If I missed any please feel free to add to the list. I almost squashed him like a bug before the AF got deleted...actually I was going to do it the day my nation was deleted! :x

You know you two should stop flaming.

Im terribly sorry if I post things relevant to the action such as the number of troops and weapons and how large each salvo is. Oh I am also terribly sorry that I dont post 5 page long essays on whether my general shaved that morning or his moral outlook on war.[/sarcasm] I post what is relevant to the battle and what is needed to keep everything moving. Oh and I can assure you my intelligence is well above the idiot level.

and which nation was exactly your first nation that you were going to squash me with?

We fear everyone pre-emptively. The only reason we don't nuke you all out of sheer panic is that there just isn't the budget for that kind of thing.

[OOC: EOTED does not actually fear anyone, as it has no reason to - having beaten back a particuarly large invasion already, EOTED is pretty confident. Yet despite this, one nation gives EOTED pause and a reason for concern, in general: Ravenspire. They're the only ones, really, who have ever acted in a supremely confident manner (except Menelmacar, but they're just arrogant, in the view of EOTED, and EOTED doesn't exist to Menelmacar these days anyhow) when dealing with EOTED - and that gives the EOTED ruling powers pause for thought.]

Bah...fear is a sign of weakness! :wink:

I don't "fear" anyone ICly, because my tech and RPing ability take me places few can go. Alliances like ToY and Metus are rather powerful, but then again so is the Order of the Seraphim, which I am a senior member of, regardless if it doesn't go about flaunting its power like the others.

Actually we did try a major terrorist strike against almost all of the major nations simultaneously about six months ago. Chemical bombs, Bio-toxins, dirty bombs, the full works. Sadly, minutes before the final strike it turned out that every one of our spies was a double agent and all the top members of the intellegence service had sold details of the plan to one nation or another. They all had a good laugh about, turned off the bombs and went home. No-one was terribly suprised to tell the truth.

I'm not afraid of any nations, but I am wary of a few (Lapse if you're reading this, you don't classifiy anywhere near that). That's probably because I don't usually get involved in conflicts unless I'm directly related to it in some way.

I fear no one beacause I have 14863795860589475387685768 nOoKs

J/K :P

I'm pretty much scared of everyone. I have to be for now 8)

We also went through a period of offering a huge reward to all those "Assassin Nations" for dealing with Lady Siri. The "Assassin Nation" trend died off pretty quickly after that.

Ermor fears no one, but I guess there are several reasons for this. I ignore future and modern tech nations, in a way, and not that many really care about this nation. As long as they keep their tech out of Ermor, all's well and A-OK. I can character RP or just RP with future/modern tech nations, but I would never wage war with one. Ermor is more in the ancient Rome - early Middle Ages line of tech with heavy magical emphasis.

EDIT: Oh, I forgot to say that I'm also Rlyeh Cult and Ur-Quan Kohr-Ah, which neither fear anyone too, but I have a tendency of not waging wars, as I see them as chaotic messes that almost always don't work out in any sensible way. They also have a weird habit of dying out before they actually end.

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I ignore future and modern tech nations.

More ignorance I see... :roll:

IC: We fear no one. As someone said before, quite a few nations could defeat us, though we would kill enough of them to make them easy targets for our allies. And considering the fact that we have never been sucessfully invaded helps our confidence a little.

OOC: AMF has always sort of creeped me out. I don't know why... :D

I'm afraid of myself because I don't know what I'd do if I found a nation that I was afraid of! :D

We're not afraid of any nation, we're just suspicious of them instead.

there is no one we are not afraid to bleed on. and we may just make them take us over whether they want to or not.

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Hey, look at that, BG's the first nation mentioned as a source of fear. I feel all fuzzy inside! I mean, uh, jingiostic and menacing, yes! You see, people? To invoke fear you need only fire air-launched anti-shipping missiles at coal-fired gun-armed warships!

To be fair one couldn't really blame the people of Iansisle for being worried right now, considering The Commonwealth's revitalised apetite for anti-imperialist interventionism, as displayed in Madagascar.

As for who we fear? No one, traditionally.. BG has for quite some time been by far the largest and wealthiest nation in its region, and the advent of weapons such as the CS-500 long-range SAM has brought plenty of media hype around the nation's security. However, though they don't really live in perpetual fear for their lives, Beth Gellens do list a number of threats. Included amongst them is neighbouring Haverton, the region's number two power, foremost imperialist, and BG's one-time military opponent (in the conflict mentioned by Iansisle). However, Haverton is only moderately active, and BG has done a decent job of playing-off the capitalist and imperialist forces in its region against one another. We're pretty relaxed about it all.

There's the possibility of war with Roycelandia, but if that goes all-out it's almost certain to end with the liberation by BG of Roycelandia's east African colonies, and as they stand to lose more than us, and are half our size, we're again less than petrified.

We've suffered recent unprecidented losses while fighting against Argyllia for their invasion of Madagascar, but BG proper was never at risk.. we once suffered serious terrorist victimisation but the world was belatedly quite supportive on that..

I dunno, should BG be afraid of anyone? I don't think there are many powerful anti-communist forces out there actually worth RPing with.

Maybe Sopworth Igo (who, incidentally, concerned parties may like to know may now be referenced as, "whereabouts unknown" and, "suspect in proliferation of nuclear materials and technologies to Dra-pol amongst other hard-line communist and rogue states" (how're those anti-Iansislian neighbour-states doing, these days? )) will deftly win us some enemies or something.

Or become an enemy in himself.

Ah, there you go! The People's Commonwealth of Beth Gellert is somewhat afraid of The People's Commonwealth of Beth Gellert! 'tis prone to revolutionary upheaval and extreme political movement.

There, that's two votes! We're scariest ;)

No? Most long-winded, then?

Xanthal is secretly terrified of Melkor Unchained. They could probably win a defensive war, but not without sacrificing many lives. They've been on the brink with Melkor for a very long time. These days Xanthal just tiptoes around his affairs so as to prevent a conflict. They'd love peace, but they can't ally with a nation as corrupt and disgusting as that.
I guess a Xanthalian's worst nightmare is an invasion of the Aellis system. War has never touched Xanthal's capital system before. It's more than adequately defended, and an attack would probably be thwarted, but it would shatter the sense of security there. It would probably turn Xanthal into either a sniveling coward or a militaristic superpower virtually overnight.

Xanthal is secretly terrified of Melkor Unchained. They could probably win a defensive war, but not without sacrificing many lives. They've been on the brink with Melkor for a very long time. These days Xanthal just tiptoes around his affairs so as to prevent a conflict. They'd love peace, but they can't ally with a nation as corrupt and disgusting as that.
I guess a Xanthalian's worst nightmare is an invasion of the Aellis system. War has never touched Xanthal's capital system before. It's more than adequately defended, and an attack would probably be thwarted, but it would shatter the sense of security there. It would probably turn Xanthal into either a sniveling coward or a militaristic superpower virtually overnight.

If you could gather a coalition of nations - including Menelmacar - to fight, Melkor could get defeated. However, I highly recomend not doing it and Menelmacar probably wouldn't fight Melkor.

Read the segment of our relations post on Melkor and Menelmacar. There's an interesting dynamic with what you just said.

Also, have you read this (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=122869)? It's an interesting bit, and considering your comment it might intrest you to be informed. Only the first post matters, unless you like reading insults and arguments.

We fear no one, because all are our Comrade Brethren, no matter if they are enemy, neutral, or ally. For, in the end, The People are our most concern, not International Battles.

International Comrade Brethrenhood, works out well, I'd say.

We fear no one, because all are our Comrade Brethren, no matter if they are enemy, neutral, or ally. For, in the end, The People are our most concern, not International Battles.

International Comrade Brethrenhood, works out well, I'd say.

Fear noone,eh?That can soon change...

BTW,we fear..anyonecreatedindec2002.*Nods quickly*

We fear no one, because all are our Comrade Brethren, no matter if they are enemy, neutral, or ally. For, in the end, The People are our most concern, not International Battles.

International Comrade Brethrenhood, works out well, I'd say.

Fear noone,eh?That can soon change...

BTW,we fear..anyonecreatedindec2002.*Nods quickly*

No one that old RP's though :lol:

We fear no one, because all are our Comrade Brethren, no matter if they are enemy, neutral, or ally. For, in the end, The People are our most concern, not International Battles.

International Comrade Brethrenhood, works out well, I'd say.

Fear noone,eh?That can soon change...

BTW,we fear..anyonecreatedindec2002.*Nods quickly*

No one that old RP's though :lol:

Hence why I am not a quivering lump in the corner,but a rising world semi-power.

June? Eh...give it a month or two of solid RPing and you may be

-.-...I've been giving it a month or two since I was created.

BTW,we fear..anyonecreatedindec2002.*Nods quickly*What about November?

BTW,we fear..anyonecreatedindec2002.*Nods quickly*What about November?

quiet you, or your baseball team shall fall to ruins :lol:

BOO!


*watches all the little nations flee in terror*

No one fears me..... :? Oh well, guess that's just cuz I'm just such a nice big fuzzy wuzzy teddy bear!

*looks for some one to crush....erm......bearhug*

OOC: Who do I fear? Hmm, that is a tough question. There are very few nations which I am on bad terms with. In fact, I get the feeling that most of the 1 billion+ nations don't know I exist, which is a good thing for the time being.

But if I had to say someone, I would probably say Siri. I respect her power, but she seems to overreact. She tends to completely obliterate nations who get on her bad side (like all those bad "I kill 99999 Elves, come look at me!" Rpers.) Now granted, they probably deserved it, but why risk slaughtering millions of innocent civilians with orbital artillery? Special Forces could get the job done much more efficiently and with much less loss of life.

Not to mention that she has many nations which would come to her aid in any war.

She is, however a great RPer and deserves respect.

I also fear big space nations like Klonor and Foe Hammer, mainly because they could kill me with ortillery without blinking an eye.

Imo, ortillery makes for bad RPing, like nukes, because there is no way to counter it, and everything just seems to end afterwards. :(

Xanthal is secretly terrified of Melkor Unchained. They could probably win a defensive war, but not without sacrificing many lives. They've been on the brink with Melkor for a very long time. These days Xanthal just tiptoes around his affairs so as to prevent a conflict. They'd love peace, but they can't ally with a nation as corrupt and disgusting as that.
I guess a Xanthalian's worst nightmare is an invasion of the Aellis system. War has never touched Xanthal's capital system before. It's more than adequately defended, and an attack would probably be thwarted, but it would shatter the sense of security there. It would probably turn Xanthal into either a sniveling coward or a militaristic superpower virtually overnight.

OOC: So far, Xanthal is the only one who said what would happen if brought into a serious conflict. I don't think many people think about the ramifications of a war.

Belem is a nation that we fear

You're joking, right?

I also fear big space nations like Klonor and Foe Hammer, mainly because they could kill me with ortillery without blinking an eye.

Imo, ortillery makes for bad RPing, like nukes, because there is no way to counter it, and everything just seems to end afterwards. :(

By 'ortillery' I presume you mean space launched WMD, right? I can proudly say that the only ortillery I ever use is against space tech ships on the same level as mine. I never use it against more primitve nations vessels, and I have never once used it against an actual nation (except one time when fighting Arbra, but the entire point of that war was for me to completely obliterate the planet so that the puppet master could back out of controlling it).

So, when I kill you it will be old fashion way. :wink:

I am only afraid of my own people, otherwise invinsible.

I am only afraid of two nations, Menelmacar and Melkor Unchained.

Menelmacar disarmed me once, can do so again, and can also turn me into a glowing sheet of glass. Melkor can do much the same, but instead will burn my land to a crisp.

No one fears me, that is good, actualy, only one nation SHOULD fear me, and that is United Hiigarans, as I could still crush them should I wish. And if they betray me, I have a good reason too.

I fear no one except me.

I am only afraid of two nations, Menelmacar and Melkor Unchained.

Menelmacar disarmed me once, can do so again, and can also turn me into a glowing sheet of glass. Melkor can do much the same, but instead will burn my land to a crisp.

No one fears me, that is good, actualy, only one nation SHOULD fear me, and that is United Hiigarans, as I could still crush them should I wish. And if they betray me, I have a good reason too.

..Why would we have any reson to betray you?How would we betray you?There is no opportunity nor motive.

quiet you, or your baseball team shall fall to ruins :lol:It already has. :cry:
Imo, ortillery makes for bad RPing, like nukes, because there is no way to counter it, and everything just seems to end afterwards. :(There are modern-tech counters to both. ;)