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Long time ago much person who came from socialistic ideals made some reunion to speak about the problems of the people... Now i propose to make it another time.
All socialists (commies,socialist democratics, anarcosocialists, fascists, national socialists) are pried to visit this post and to bring any kind of discussion. This is not a way to reunite all socialist but a way to compare them.
All are invited, all have the possibility to speak.

Long time ago much person who came from socialistic ideals made some reunion to speak about the problems of the people... Now i propose to make it another time.
All socialists (commies,socialist democratics, anarcosocialists, fascists, national socialists) are pried to visit this post and to bring any kind of discussion. This is not a way to reunite all socialist but a way to compare them.
All are invited, all have the possibility to speak.Translation from Yoda Speech:

A long time ago, many people that had socialist ideals had a summit of some kind to discuss the problems the people faced. I now propose to start another such summit.
All socialists(all the ones he listed) are invited to attend and start discussions and debates over the pressing issues people face. This is not a summit to form a socialist alliance, just a summit to compare ideas and success.
All socialists are invited and everyone will have a chance to speak.

"First, I wish to suggest that Fascist nations and "National Socialists" (i.e. Nazis) be banned from this meeting and that only true Socialist nations be allowed to send representatives to this conference.

I wish to bring the attention of this conference to the type of Socialism we practice in Edolia. Blatterschplitt Socialism is a term used to describe a system, developed by economics ministers in Edolia and named after our nation's ruling family, to describe an economic system combining the best elements of capitalism and communism. The best way of describing it quickly -though this description does not do it justice- is a "socialist corporation." In many ways, Edolia is run like a very large corporation. The main difference, however, between ourselves and many of the other corporate nations in the world, is that the power is not concentrated in the hands of a small group of rich stockholders. Instead, each citizen-worker of Edolia has an equal share in the "corporation." So, every person is an employee of the Edolian government and all industry is owned by the government. We maintain financial flexability just like a real corporation does -by encouraging and rewarding ingenuity. By decentralizing the corporation into thousands of smaller industries, we keep beurocracy down. We have found this style of economics to be extremely effective."
Wang Xiaoping
Minister for Economics

By decentralizing the corporation into thousands of smaller industries, we keep beurocracy [sic] down.

No offence intended, but that's got to be the quote of the day. :lol:

In fact, such a meeting already exists, known as the Conference of Anti-Capitalist Economies, the fourth of which is planned to begin after the IFTA Conference, which will begin shortly (ooc: when HB gets back). As noted by Minister Xiaoping, fascists and national socialists are not socialists at all, and so were and still are excluded from the Conference.

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indeed, i feel my logic suspenders sretch.

I wanna say that Fascism and National Socialism are the socialists as all other kinds of socialisms.
The fascist/nazist corporative system is the true 3th way to see the economy. If you wanna say the they aren't socialist coz they caused the death of milions of jews, gays and others you're in fault. Infact as you can see commies caused a bigger numeber of deads.
However i want to propose a new way of economy, if we use statal entreprise near or fused with private entreprise we could make another economical system.
However i want to propose the Etical State as the better way for the society.
If you want to know what i propose you look for Giovanni Gentile, first philosopher of italian fascism.

By decentralizing the corporation into thousands of smaller industries, we keep beurocracy [sic] down.

No offence intended, but that's got to be the quote of the day. icon_lol.gif

Not at all. It is a well-known fact a top-down bureaucracy causes far more problems in terms of corruption, paperwork, waste, etc. In fact, that's one of the basics that capitalism is founded on. (Not the basic, but one of them.) It's one of the main reasons that economically "right-wing" people will advocate more power given to State governments as opposed to the Federal government and allowing private companies to manage more services. We've just simply modifed the concept and applied it to a government-controlled economy.

And to Interamnia; the reason that I said that "National Socialists" and Fascists should not be a part of this meeting (that doesn't seem to be taking place) is quite simple. They just aren't socialists. Period. Nazism and Fascism are founded on very different ideas. Fascists in Germany called themselves the "National Socialist Worker's Party" in great part to gain support from the people. (I don't remember exactly but I vaguely recall reading something about Hitler making a lot of changes in the Nazi Party when he began having a lot of influence. Don't yell at me if I'm wrong. This is just a vague recollection.)

I wanna say that Fascism and National Socialism are the socialists as all other kinds of socialisms.
The fascist/nazist corporative system is the true 3th way to see the economy. If you wanna say the they aren't socialist coz they caused the death of milions of jews, gays and others you're in fault. Infact as you can see commies caused a bigger numeber of deads.
However i want to propose a new way of economy, if we use statal entreprise near or fused with private entreprise we could make another economical system.
However i want to propose the Etical State as the better way for the society.
If you want to know what i propose you look for Giovanni Gentile, first philosopher of italian fascism.

I assume you are referring to the USSR. I don't feel like starting a long conversation on this, but they were not communists. Now, real socialists will very rarely have anything to do with facists or so call National Socialists...

I wanna say that Fascism and National Socialism are the socialists as all other kinds of socialisms.
The fascist/nazist corporative system is the true 3th way to see the economy.

Wow, a stealth fascist that doesn't even bother with cloaking devices. We doubt that there is much chance of this "International" amounting to anything. Good luck getting any anarchist to come hang out with fascists without it coming to blows. We haven't forgotten the past yet.

The Durruti Anti-Fascist Defense Collective

My nation is a Socialist Democracy, created by The People, For the People, and for the protection, defence, and betterment of the People and their Lives.

We care none for Imperialism, Oppression, or anything that Oppresses the Voice and Will of The People. We are not communists, and have no grudges against any, as long as They are For The People.

We regulary patrol International Waters with Submarines and, sometimes, surface ships. This is, again, in Defense of The People.

We have no other interest but for the Betterment of The People and a Good, Long, Happy, Enjoyable life for our People. They are the Government, and the Government is for Them.

Interamnia is a Social Republic where a patriarch drive the people with justice. We don't love the iron fist but they respect however their leader as he thinks all time to their happyness.
This is the only relationship that a state needs to survive!