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Government figures released today show that since prostitution was legalised by the UN, the Joccian government, using loopholes in the Euthanasia bill, have painlessly terminated over 230,000 people who registered as prostitutes under the new laws. Following hard on the heels of their mental health programme, which saw over 2 million terminations, it must be asked - who next?

The Joccian ministry of Employment is currently registering all long-term unemployed citizens as prostitutes, as well as certain groups of single parents.

Private Communique, Joccian government

Reading with dismay reports of mass murder and genocide being carried out in Joccia by order of the Government, the Republic of Eredron feels it necessary to respond to such crimes.

Civilized nations shall and must maintain the standards set forth through international law. Eredron cannot permit this genocide to continue in Joccia. It is for the purpose of ending these crimes against humanity that Eredron is preparing to create a full and unconditional naval and aerial blockade of Joccia. No true civilized member of the international community could allow these atrocities to continue, and so it is that Eredron is preparing a full military response, should the Government of Joccia refuse to surrender itself immediately for trial.

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*seconded*

*also put on the "conveniently ignore when bombed into submission" list*

Fellow Governments! Please, please! Joccia is acting with the approval of the United Nations, and wholly within International Law. We have not stood in the way of progress, the UN resolution making prostitution legal has been accorded with in every respect. :?

Please withdraw your threats and embargos, you stand as maverick countries acting against the good intentions of the UN! :x

You have no basis in International law for your actions :)

P. Humpled-Creep
Minister for Foreign and Ugandan Relations

Silliest Quote of the Week[/i]]You have no basis in International law for your actions :)

Damn... if only you could do something about it huh? I can ban any nations trade from my nation if I want to and there is nothing the UN or you can do about it.

Personally I'm not part of the UN because it is a useless organisation which only has control of the nations who are part of it.

What basis do I ban your trade from my nation? Because I don't like what your doing to your nation... many other natons will take much, much more durastic actions, because they don't like it either.

I don't care what the UN legalise... we see what you are doing as completely immoral and as such we condemn your nation as strong as we can without declaring war...

Thanks,

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A blockade is basically like declaring war. Make up your minds. He used loop holes, we all do. If you want to do something about it then go cry to your UN mommy.

We don't like what they did, however its still perfectly legal in your UN. We also don't like what you fools are doing.

Emperor Vahn I of Telliria

Dear Lord General De Gruntz,

Surely you will not continue this action against us? If as you say, you despise the UN for it's meddlesome interference, then surely you must support a country which turns its the UN's own stupidity back on itself.

The laws under which we are ending the suffering of these poor unfortunates are set down as follows and comply with the wording of the UN resolutions they refer to:

"The Department of Social Well Being has made the executive decision that all prostitutes are subject to exploitation of the worst kind. This exploitation is either accepted by the said prostitute, or enforced upon them. In either situation the Minister for Social Well Being has decided that any prostitute must be suffering and unable to make a competent decision.

Under the terms of the Legalisation of Euthanasia, and the Laws that were passed to support the UN Mandate, the Minister for Social Well Being has decided that all prostitutes have a right to have their suffering ended.

All prostitutes in Joccia have been humanely terminated.

The Law as set out is available for perusal below. Joccia will continue to comply with all UN Resolutions no matter how stupid they may be.

1. Whereas a person with mental health problems is seen to be suffering and cannot be guaranteed a cure - they shall be terminated and their suffering shall cease.

2. Whereas a person of retirement age -70 years in Joccia - shall be deemed to be of no further value to the state and shall be deemed to be suffering - they shall be terminated and their suffering shall cease.

3. Whereas any person shall be involved in protest, form part of a repressed minority group, be of a sexual or religious persuasion, which is seen by His Majesty's Government to be abhorrent, they shall be deemed to be suffering and shall be terminated.

4. Whereas persons included in any of the above sections are deemed to be unable to make any rational decision, hence their adherence to their chosen abomination, or by age, or by mental illness, they shall be deemed to be unable to make their own decision to volunteer for euthanasia and the respective clause within the UN resolution shall come into force.

5. It has been commanded that henceforth His Majesty's Minister of Well-being shall be, in law, the next of kin to the entire population of this nation, saving only the Royal Family and persons involved in the Government and from time to time those whom the King or his successors may choose, and that he may devolve this right to the persons rightly employed by the Department of Well-Being. "

Sincerely yours

Mac III
Absolute ruler of Joccia

[code:1:c071b11746]Dear Mac III of Joccia,
While we can do nothing about your soverign right to create laws as you see fit, we must also lodge our highest complaints against your policies. In short, your policies are sick and wrong! While we, too abhore prostitutes, we choose to rehabilate them, or at least give them contraceptions to reduce the risk of STDs. You are nothing more than a murderer and a genocidist* and though we have no right to harm you (yet) your days are numbered. We hope you soon see the light before some nation decides that your are unfit to rule. That is all.

*one who commits genocide.

Sincerely,
President John Tenchi Masaki, 18 year-old leader of CoreWorlds[/code:1:c071b11746]

A blockade is basically like declaring war. Make up your minds.

Damn... now only if I was actually blockading his nation... however, I'm not. I've banned his products from my nation and banned my nation from trading with them... thus a "trade embargo".

It's not like declaring war... I have made up my mind.

yeah what iuthia said

[code:1:83fa87f78a]Furthermore, we also issue an embargo against your nation, meaning that no trade will occur between our two nations.[/code:1:83fa87f78a]

If as you say, you despise the UN for it's meddlesome interference, then surely you must support a country which turns its the UN's own stupidity back on itself.

I don't beleive I used those words, I said I was against what you are doing... so this point isn't going to change anything.

We would also like to note that the resolution says:

"Everyone over a certain age or with a life-threatening illness should be given the right to decide whether, in such a situation, they want to live on for as long as possible, or die with a little dignity left intact. This would mean a legal document would be filled out by those concerned."

That means that they would have to choose to die by signing a contact willfully.

"If the person cannot make the decision themselves it would be made by those closest to them on the basis of professional medical advice."

Their family in other words. It doesn't state ever that it should be the choice of the medic profession...


However, the above doesn't matter because I don't really care that you are violating a UN law, I care that you are killing thousands of innocents and claiming to be doing it for a legitimate reason...

I will not remove the embargo on your nation and I will suggest that my allies join in.

Joccia, your request for assistance to show a little "muscle" towards your aggressors has been denied by the Credonian government on the basis that we do not support nations who commit acts of genocide, nor will we do business with such nations.

Additional Note: Iuthia has had legalised prostitution a long time before the U.N forced this law upon many of their members...

We do so to help regulate this profession which would exist underground had we not legalised it. The legalisation of prostitions means:

a. We can regulate the industry as well as keep it in specific areas of the nations which are well marked, thus keeping the rest of the nation clean of it.

b. Regulations in the proffession assure the safety of both workers and clients, they previously had no assurance of protection and scum such as "pimps" no longer exist.

c. We can tax the industy and increase our income.

d. We can keep an eye on the industy to make sure everything is still safe and above board.

Credonia gives its moral support to those nations who are opposed to this conflict and to what Joccia is doing.

I go for another embargo.

Nations, please accept our sincere apologies for causing all of this sabre rattling.

To Iuthia we say

"If the person cannot make the decision themselves it would be made by those closest to them on the basis of professional medical advice."

If you note from the wording of our law -

"It has been commanded that henceforth His Majesty's Minister of Well-being shall be, in law, the next of kin to the entire population of this nation"

This exploits the, admittedly bad, wording of the UN resolution as put forward by Grande. I and several other nations pointed this out before the resolution was passed. The resolution as passed is full of such loopholes waiting to be exploited.

We will admit that had the prostitution question come up as an issue, we would probably have accepted it and legalised prostitution. However, had we had some moral or other principle that forbade us we should have been able to find a different way to deal with it.

This decision was taken from us - a Sovereign Country, whose beliefs may differ from yours, but are equally valid!

This kind of proposal and resolution - including the Euthanasia prop seem to be becoming the "in Thing". If Nation States want to pass these sorts of resolutions, then they must accept the consequences, and live with them. Proposals must be considered, fair, and above all watertight!

We are acting within the laws laid down by the UN. That you sit outside it and criticise the way it works, without having the stomach to get in and attempt to change it does not impress me. -

Iuthia wrote:
"Personally I'm not part of the UN because it is a useless organisation which only has control of the nations who are part of it."

I would read the words as those of one who despises the UN...

If the rest of you are members of the UN, then you are obliged to support me, or resign from the UN - you are part of the instrument that has led to this situation and, as such, responsible collectively

I note that until deaths were mentioned, no-one really took much notice of what we were doing...? :roll:

We congratulate Joccia on there excellent use of wording technicalities to get around a UN proposall.

In response to all these blockades and embargos we will double our usual amount of trade with Joccia.

Also for further note another way to get around UN law is this: Since Prostitutes must be licensed. You say in Order to get a License the prostitute has to be already within the line of work but by not having that License she is breaking the law already and can be jailed and denied a license forever. Its a very good loophole.

To: Joccia.
Then don't kill people unnecessarily, and you'll be fine.

This decision was taken from us - a Sovereign Country, whose beliefs may differ from yours, but are equally valid!

It may not be fair, but it's what we are going to do... though I don't see how it equates to "sabre rattling" seeing as I have yet to threaten action.

We will exercise our right to ban trade with nations we see as immoral... I've done it to maybe about 30 nations in a similar fashion for numberous reasons... most of them shrug it off because in all honesty I probably wasn't trading with you in the first place.

However, we have to condemn your nations actions some how.

So whatever, we're keeping the embargo in place, even if it's pointless.

To the Joccia Government:

When our nation considered joining the UN during the reign of my Grandfather, Grand Lord St. Vladmir Wulf he declared the UN to be an organization bent on destroying the good Christian Values of all Khallacians so he nor the rulers after him allowed the nation to join the UN. He was proven right by the legalization of prostitution. This sinful and evil thing will bring ruin to your nation, leave the UN and re-ban body-selling, kill off the whores and sluts and bring Salvation to your people!


Grand Lady Claudia Wulf
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The Armed Republic of Khallaca III
The Protectorate of St Vroda

This decision was taken from us - a Sovereign Country, whose beliefs may differ from yours, but are equally valid!

It may not be fair, but it's what we are going to do... though I don't see how it equates to "sabre rattling" seeing as I have yet to threaten action.

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The sabre rattling quote was not directed at your country, however, should push come to shove we are promised humanitarian aid and military might from Galdania, I'm sure we could find others...

Mac Rex

The attempts of the Joccian government to hide mass murder and genocide behind this fake facade are mediocre, and will not succeed in turning Eredron away from protecting the rights and liberties of the Joccian people; nor will your veiled threats.

These barbaric acts cannot and will not go unpunished. Eredron demands that Joccia submit itself to an Eredronian inspection force to identify and dissemble the factories of death that must surely exist within the borders of Joccia, and allow aerial surveillance flights to take place over Joccia; in addition, those government officials responsible for the ordering of these crimes must be brought to justice. The Confederated Republic of Eredron, seeking to secure a peaceful means to this horrific and tragic event, will grant the Joccian government a period of two days(24 RL hours) to cooperate with Eredron and begin to wilfully end this barbaric practice.

In this matter, the decision of Eredron is final: the genocide in Joccia will end.

The attempts of the Joccian government to hide mass murder and genocide behind this fake facade are mediocre, and will not succeed in turning Eredron away from protecting the rights and liberties of the Joccian people; nor will your veiled threats.

These barbaric acts cannot and will not go unpunished. Eredron demands that Joccia submit itself to an Eredronian inspection force to identify and dissemble the factories of death that must surely exist within the borders of Joccia, and allow aerial surveillance flights to take place over Joccia; in addition, those government officials responsible for the ordering of these crimes must be brought to justice. The Confederated Republic of Eredron, seeking to secure a peaceful means to this horrific and tragic event, will grant the Joccian government a period of two days(24 RL hours) to cooperate with Eredron and begin to wilfully end this barbaric practice.

In this matter, the decision of Eredron is final: the genocide in Joccia will end.

Joccia is being granted temporary protectorate status of the Imperial Empire of Belem. Any attack made on Joccia will be seen as an action against Belem and will be dealt with swiftly and harshly.

The Armed Republic of Sino Military Junta finds the actions of Joccia in regards to the stoppage of prositution, highly commendable. The Armed Republic of Sino has done so in the past too, although we terminated the pimps and rather re-educated the prostitutes.

Sino has outlawed prostitution long ago. Prostitution is a great social evil that must be wiped out no matter what. Prostitutes are rats in bed. They spread venereal diseases, promote indecency and ruin the national image.

Being an ally of Belem, Joccia may enjoy a period of temporary protection under Sino. Any actions by foreign nations to deviate the Joccian policies against prostitution is a threat to Sino.

Eredron should learn to mind her own business and back down with the empty threats of war on Joccia. Prostitution is a barbaric act. Is weed killing genocide? Joccia is simply being a good farmer.

The Menelmacari Prefect of Health is hereby deemed to be next of kin to all citizens of Joccia.

The Menelmacari Prefect of Health has hereby deemed all Joccians to be suffering. Thusly, they shall be terminated and their suffering will cease. The fleets will arrive in twelve hours.

~Siri

The Menelmacari Prefect of Health is hereby deemed to be next of kin to all citizens of Joccia.

The Menelmacari Prefect of Health has hereby deemed all Joccians to be suffering. Thusly, they shall be terminated and their suffering will cease. The fleets will arrive in twelve hours.

~Siri

Joccia recognises no laws but those of her own Sovereign and the United Nations. Whatever laws you pass in your diluted Elvish councils have no bearing on the folk of Joccia.

There are no True-bloods in your nation, you are all tainted with the mixed blood of the goblin races, and the Dwarfs were truly the first born.

Joccia stands ready to meet your threat, and, whatever the outcome, your people will die.

After a heated session, Joccia's Parliament, today layed before the King a new amendment to the Legalisation of Euthanasia Laws. The King read the proposal, chuckled, and signed the instrument.

The BBC understands the new amendment to contain the following:

Being as The Ancient Race has outstayed it's time in the Human world, and given that those who have not travelled across the "Straight Sea" into the uttermost West must be considered to be suffering and unable to make up their own minds, His Majesty's Minister of Well Being shall consider them as such and shall terminate their suffering.

Henceforth all those of Elvish persuasion shall be placed under ban of empire and shall not be granted admittance into the borders of Joccia.

The attempts of the Joccian government to hide mass murder and genocide behind this fake facade are mediocre, and will not succeed in turning Eredron away from protecting the rights and liberties of the Joccian people; nor will your veiled threats.

These barbaric acts cannot and will not go unpunished. Eredron demands that Joccia submit itself to an Eredronian inspection force to identify and dissemble the factories of death that must surely exist within the borders of Joccia, and allow aerial surveillance flights to take place over Joccia; in addition, those government officials responsible for the ordering of these crimes must be brought to justice. The Confederated Republic of Eredron, seeking to secure a peaceful means to this horrific and tragic event, will grant the Joccian government a period of two days(24 RL hours) to cooperate with Eredron and begin to wilfully end this barbaric practice.

In this matter, the decision of Eredron is final: the genocide in Joccia will end.

We will allow representatives from the Government of Belem full access to all of Joccia for the purposes of preparing a report on the humane inhumation of the suffering. No-one else!

We are not a defenceless country, neither have we armed offensively. We will not bring war to you; bring your war to us at your peril!

At this time Joccia cannot answer for those who have sworn to aid us, but beware lest their weapons also speak for them!

"Mylord, have you read the news? The Kingdom of Joccia have executed 230,000 prostitutes to circumvent the latest UN resolution."

"What an unusually bad way to handle the problem. They will make all monarchies look bad. Exterminating your own population, indeed! I have seldom heard of such makabre stupidity."

"Sire, we are also targeted by the same resolution. I know you are against legalized prostitution, how can we do better?"

"Oh I already have. I outlawed buying the services. Much more fair and just."

"There will probably be a black market soon.."

"Probably already is. But I can't outlaw bad weather, now can I?"

The Prince laughed heartily at this, well knowing that the WCG - Weather Control Generator had already banished bad weather permanently.

"Anyway, we cancel all trade with them. I think it is just a matter of time before they are labeled psycothic dictatorship. Better stay clear of lunatics. Much less trouble."

"Yes Sire. Intel suggests that Lady Sirithil will "take care" of the problem."

"She is, is she? I suppose there is no reason to bring this up to SATO then. I just hope only the responsible ones gets it. Lady Siri has a reputation for being.. shall we say, "thorough"."

Our problem is that you are assuming that prostitutes are "suffering". Yeah, most do suffer hardships, but in theory, some could actually enjoy what they're doing and thus would not be suffering. It also appears that "suffering" appears to be subjective in your nation and seems to be an underhand trick to control everyone. That doesn't sit too well with the Romans.

Please reconsider your actions.

ooc - As I have said before, the extermination of prostitutes and the mentally ill have been made possible purely by the passing of Grande's badly worded UN proposal for the legalization of Euthanasia. This proposal was passed by a very slim majority, in spite of the warnings of a number of people who pointed out that these very types of occurances could follow.

The resolution is STILL a bill of rights for any government that wants to carry out Legalized Genocide.

Future proposals MUST be examined for the possibility of this type of abuse, if the electorate can't or won't do it, the Mods must do it for us.

Proposals which impose laws on countries that may interfere with their basic tenets of cultural belief, or contravene their religious, or atheist beliefs, belong in ISSUES, not in the UN forum.

If I have made my point then, although I am rather enjoying the RP, I am content to let the thread drop, If not......


ic :twisted:

We now hear a hypocritical diatribe on "free choice" from the ROMANS!
What have they ever done for us?

The nation of Cyzaki left the UN after the euthanasia (or 'legalised murder') bill was passed. Which is perhaps a good thing, as there is currently a big argument going on in the region of hootoo about how the delegate should decide how to vote in the UN... The nation of Cyzaki is pleased to have got out in time.

The Kingdom of Joccia is resolved to stay within the UN. The UN grants our King more power than he can rightly handle, and lets him play with his subjects obscenely if he wishes, all the while nodding, smiling and granting him more power.

We will allow representatives from the Government of Belem full access to all of Joccia for the purposes of preparing a report on the humane inhumation of the suffering. No-one else!

We are not a defenceless country, neither have we armed offensively. We will not bring war to you; bring your war to us at your peril!

At this time Joccia cannot answer for those who have sworn to aid us, but beware lest their weapons also speak for them!


Private Communique

Eredron would agree to an objective third party inspection of Joccia, so long as a full, proper and unbiased report is delivered on the state of Joccia's machinations of genocide.

Eredron does not seek to wage an unnecessary war, but will take whatever conscionable actions required to end this holocaust.

The Kingdom of Joccia asks Belem if their great country would be prepared to send inspectors to view Joccia's work. We will send this message by telegram also

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The Empress of Ostaria would like to distance herself from the vile actions of her neighbor

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*seconded*

*also put on the "conveniently ignore when bombed into submission" list*

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*seconded*

*also put on the "conveniently ignore when bombed into submission" list*

Belem will send investigators to Joccia to review these alleged cases of genocide.

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My thanks to the great Nation of Belem.

We shall telegram you to let you know travel arrangements and so forth.

We shall be glad to hold a State Banquet in honour of your esteemed Inspectors, and all things that they require shall be made available to them.

Ah, I see that telegramic communications equipment seems to be "down". We shall have to play this one by ear :oops:

its down thats wierd? are you sure the server didnt log you out?

Ummm! I don't seem to be able to telegram anyone????? :? :shock:

Ummm! I don't seem to be able to telegram anyone????? :? :shock:

joccia check tgrams

you were right - swerkin' now

Eredron reaffirms its support of an objective, unbiased and timely Belemian inspection force.

The Confederated Republic of Eredron requests that a preliminary report of the inspection team's findings be released within three months to the international community, outlining the programs under which untold millions have been murdered.

OOC: we are working out the details now over Tgrams.

OOC: Just keeping it alive.

ic :twisted:

We now hear a hypocritical diatribe on "free choice" from the ROMANS!
What have they ever done for us?

OOC: I'm a fan of the Romans and I'm very socialist-minded and compassionate. I know it's essentially contradictory but I decided I'm going to make my own version of Rome and make it a reflection on how I'd run a country instead of making it a carbon copy of Old Rome.

Besides, things can change in 1500 years...otherwise, how would the Roman Empire be able to survive?

Also, I see where you're coming from...it's cruel but there's nothing that can prevent it.

IC: Emperor Paul XII rolled his eyes when he heard the Joccian reply. "Again? After overhauling our image, our past still comes back to haunt us. Oh well," he thought to himself. He decided to let it slide and not let this become an issue.

He got up to the phone and replied to Joccia's message. "Joccia, I am aware that our country is new and has not done much for anyone...however, since it is our country's mandate to help the world's people, we cannot let something this grave pass without us saying something. It is not my intent to impose any embargoes or military threat to your country, because I believe in giving nations second chances and because I believe that it is not my duty to tell other nations how to run their businesses. I just wished to express my opinion and ask, for the sake of the Joccian people, to reconsider your actions. It is entirely up to you to decide what you do, and RomeW will accept whatever action you take."

OOC: RomeW: I should note Menelmacar was an ally of Rome back in the day... just so you know. I'll keep an eye on your RP. :)

~Siri

OOC: RomeW: I should note Menelmacar was an ally of Rome back in the day... just so you know. I'll keep an eye on your RP. :)

~Siri

Thank you, and I accept your alliance with me.

OOC: RomeW: I should note Menelmacar was an ally of Rome back in the day... just so you know. I'll keep an eye on your RP. :)

~Siri

Thank you, and I accept your alliance with me.

Oh Dear,

Rome and Elves - Fascists and Fascists, some things never change do they????

OOC: just a bump report coming soon

OOC: just a bump report coming soon

Official Belem Report on Genocidal Practices

- Holy Office of the Inquisition External Affairs division

After much investigation into the alleged case of Genocide in Joccia, Belem investigators have found that the accusations of mass murder to be greatly overestimated.

In our time in Joccia we have not seen any mass graves, any gestapo like police. Any accusations of Genocide come from the fact that Joccia maintains a well run and humane Euthanisia system for the suffering. They also prescribe the death penalty to felons convincted of violent crimes, since these people are deviants and undersiables and are all trialed fairly this can not be considered a case of genocide.

Therefore it is in our conclusion Joccia has not breached any standing International Laws.

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The Sinoese Military Junta fully agrees with Belem's report. We believe that Joccia's actions in this issue had been fair and just.

OOC: Would Joccia like to comment please?

We are grateful to the inspectors from The Great Empire of Belem for their unbiased and equable report.

As we have said in Joccia, our Euthanasia laws, which follow to the letter the resolution passed by the UN, are used only to prevent suffering in a hard world.

This has been borne out by the fair and un-influenced report of these inspectors from the Holy Office of the Inquisition External Affairs division of Belem.

The donation of $250,000,000.00 for charitable works has been placed in the Swiss Bank Account today.

The shipments of Uranium from our mines will leave for Belem next week.

Our thanks to the Military Junta of Sino for their message of support.

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Official Belem Report on Genocidal Practices

- Holy Office of the Inquisition External Affairs division

After much investigation into the alleged case of Genocide in Joccia, Belem investigators have found that the accusations of mass murder to be greatly overestimated.

In our time in Joccia we have not seen any mass graves, any gestapo like police. Any accusations of Genocide come from the fact that Joccia maintains a well run and humane Euthanisia system for the suffering. They also prescribe the death penalty to felons convincted of violent crimes, since these people are deviants and undersiables and are all trialed fairly this can not be considered a case of genocide.

Therefore it is in our conclusion Joccia has not breached any standing International Laws.

[Emphasis added]

The Republic of Syskeyia condemns the "Holy" Imperial Empire of Belem for its support for Joccia's euthanasia program.

By calling Joccia's euthanasia program "humane," Belem says that the program is morally legit, clearly flying in the face of the teachings of Jesus Christ and His Birde, the Catholic Church:


2276 Those whose lives are diminished or weakened deserve special respect. Sick or handicapped persons should be helped to lead lives as normal as possible.

2277 Whatever its motives and means, direct euthanasia consists in putting an end to the lives of handicapped, sick, or dying persons. It is morally unacceptable.

Thus an act or omission which, of itself or by intention, causes death in order to eliminate suffering constitutes a murder gravely contrary to the dignity of the human person and to the respect due to the living God, his Creator. The error of judgment into which one can fall in good faith does not change the nature of this murderous act, which must always be forbidden and excluded.

If their endorsement of WMDs, eugenics, and other crimes was not enough, here the Imperial Empire clearly shows that it is Catholic only in name, and not in spirit.

To that end the Republic of Syskeyia condemns the "Holy" Imperial Empire of Belem and ceases all trading with them (OOC: not that any Syskeyian merchants would trade with you)

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia

Belem itself is against Euthanasia and has no Euthanasia program. But since the Euthanasia program was under fire in Joccia we felt we had to comment about it and though we ared against it it was neccesary to comment on there program and there program was well run and efficient. Would it of been better to lie and be biased saying the program was like a concentration camp?

The Military Junta has declared a trade embargo to Syskeyia following their insult to Belem.

[code:1:9cf3609155]>>Adding "Joccia" to black list......

>>Data Transfer complete.

>>Ceasing all trade with "Joccia".......

>>Estimated losses in Iuthian revenue: $00.00 (USD)

>>Electronic Transfers blocked, mailmerge sent to Iuthian business owners...[/code:1:9cf3609155]

*seconded*

*also put on the "conveniently ignore when bombed into submission" list*

We stand in solidarity with our ally and will block all trade with Joccia. Additionally we find this genocide most horrible and urge the Joccian government to cease and desist least there be grave consequences.

______________________________________________________________________
Vladimir Lenin III, President of Haaregradia
http://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/photo/1919/lenin.jpg

The Military Junta has declared a trade embargo to Syskeyia following their insult to Belem.

Add me Sino, it would be nice to be assured that we could never trade with you.

Lord General deGritz, leader of the Iuthian people.
Urbanites (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_region/region=Urbanites)

OOC Information on Iuthia (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=109898&highlight=)

Today, King Mac the Third of Joccia made an historic public announcement to the People of Joccia

“Whereas the United Nations has seen fit to legalise Euthanasia in International Law, and, whereas Joccia is a member of the United Nations and is bound by the resolution. We have today issued legislation pursuant to the above. This legislation supersedes and revokes any precedent legislation on the subject of Euthanasia.

Every individual person in Joccia has the right to make their choice with regard to resuscitation, or attempted resuscitation of their body should death occur, or receiving life prolonging treatment where little or no hope of recovery is in evidence or the prolonging of life in a comatose state where the condition of the brain is deteriorated or unknown. This is to be signified in a “Living Will”, which must be witnessed by two persons, and registered with a notary or solicitor.

No person or persons shall have the right to make any such decision concerning the life or death of another.

Any person suffering from a chronic or terminal illness, who believes that their suffering is beyond their capacity to endure may request such treatment as will alleviate that suffering, even if such treatment results in death.

In the case of a person who is unaware of their state by either mental debility or coma, the relatives or other concerned persons shall have no rights to request termination of life.



The preceding law is effective immediately.

bumpers

The Sinoese Military Junta fully agrees with Belem's report. We believe that Joccia's actions in this issue had been fair and just.

The Roman government would also like to express similar sentiments.

The Confederated Republic of Eredron will accept the findings of the Belem inspection team, although the conditions in Joccia are considered deplorable.

The Confederated Republic of Eredron will accept the findings of the Belem inspection team, although the conditions in Joccia are considered deplorable.

Does this mean that Eredron will stand down from her agressive footing and withdraw her illegal blockade of our waters?

Extract from report received at 23:35 GMT Feb 10...

From HMJS Nemo...lat **** Long**** We have fired torpedos at vessel within our three-mile-limit at above location. Vessel was a warship flying Eredronian Colours. Large explosion as topedoes struck target. Can not report on damage more than vessel sinking by the head as we extricated from the encounter.

Ooops :shock:

[code:1:267eecfd08]>>Adding "Joccia" to black list......

>>Data Transfer complete.

>>Ceasing all trade with "Joccia".......

>>Estimated losses in Iuthian revenue: $00.00 (USD)

>>Electronic Transfers blocked, mailmerge sent to Iuthian business owners...[/code:1:267eecfd08]

*seconded*

*also put on the "conveniently ignore when bombed into submission" list*

We stand in solidarity with our ally and will block all trade with Joccia. Additionally we find this genocide most horrible and urge the Joccian government to cease and desist least there be grave consequences.

______________________________________________________________________
Vladimir Lenin III, President of Haaregradia
http://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/photo/1919/lenin.jpg

"In a liberal communist state like Haaregradia, the commies collectivzed the whorehouses too."

- General Liu (performing stand up comedy to his fellow commanders).

Semi-OOC: Who wants General Liu to go to their country and do some stand up?

*Looking at the direction of Joccia and Belem*

He does seem a rather funny chap, however, the Joccian people have developed a rather sophisticated ( :twisted: ) sense of humour, and may not really give hime the appreciation he deserves.

But we do wish him the best of luck in his forthcoming 'World Tour'.

ic :twisted:

We now hear a hypocritical diatribe on "free choice" from the ROMANS!
What have they ever done for us?

OOC: I'm a fan of the Romans and I'm very socialist-minded and compassionate. I know it's essentially contradictory but I decided I'm going to make my own version of Rome and make it a reflection on how I'd run a country instead of making it a carbon copy of Old Rome.

Besides, things can change in 1500 years...otherwise, how would the Roman Empire be able to survive?

Also, I see where you're coming from...it's cruel but there's nothing that can prevent it.

IC: Emperor Paul XII rolled his eyes when he heard the Joccian reply. "Again? After overhauling our image, our past still comes back to haunt us. Oh well," he thought to himself. He decided to let it slide and not let this become an issue.

He got up to the phone and replied to Joccia's message. "Joccia, I am aware that our country is new and has not done much for anyone...however, since it is our country's mandate to help the world's people, we cannot let something this grave pass without us saying something. It is not my intent to impose any embargoes or military threat to your country, because I believe in giving nations second chances and because I believe that it is not my duty to tell other nations how to run their businesses. I just wished to express my opinion and ask, for the sake of the Joccian people, to reconsider your actions. It is entirely up to you to decide what you do, and RomeW will accept whatever action you take."

ooc I thought about basing on a republican Rome that never became Imperial, but decided against it, Absolute Monarchies can be such fun!

King Mac called for his Prime Minister.

"We shall let the Emperor of Western Rome know that we are cognizant of his comments, and we do understand the misgivings of his government, Let him take heart in the New Law we introduced and see that we are indeed just.

In fact the total number of people who were euthanised under the old law was less than 1% of our population, but the media attention made it seem much more. This media attention has had the effect of making one's subjects 'jump like a guinea-pig with an electrode up it's a**e. They are now working MUCH harder, and seem to have forgotten all of their complaints!

Again we thank the Emperor for his forbearance and concern and to this end we send him herewith a mating pair of the famed Joccian Fighting Guinea Pigs.

Extract from report received at 23:35 GMT Feb 10...

From HMJS Nemo...lat **** Long**** We have fired torpedos at vessel within our three-mile-limit at above location. Vessel was a warship flying Eredronian Colours. Large explosion as topedoes struck target. Can not report on damage more than vessel sinking by the head as we extricated from the encounter.

Ooops :shock:

Bump for Eredron and Belem

Bulletin 12:15 GMT

All contact with the submarine HMJS Nemo has been lost... No further reports have been received since their message of last night. Search and rescue aircraft have been deployed in the hope of finding Nemo.

Live Press Conference

"Sir Consul, ENIN has received reports that an Eredronian naval warship has been crippled and is in danger of sinking, after being struck by an enemy torpedo; can you confirm these rumors?"

Consul Hawkins nodded, wearing a veiled expression of anger. "The Oliver Hazard Perry-class Frigate Undaunted was damaged as a result of unprovoked submarine warfare."

Another reporter raised his hand. "Can you tell us who is responsible?"

"Not at this time."

"How will this affect Eredron's relations with Joccia? The attack occurred near Joccian waters; what will Eredron's response be?"

"All military forces have been placed on high alert. The naval task force stationed near Joccia is actively hunting for it's attacker, no matter where this hunt may take them."

Private Communique, Joccian government

As you are undoubtedly aware, a military strike has been carried out against an Eredronian naval force, in a time of peace. Should Joccia be responsible for this, one opportunity is given to come forth.

Should Eredron later learn of Joccian responsibility, or involvement, a full military response will be made.

Private Communique, Eredronian government

The Joccian Government has no knowledge of any action involving one of His Majesty's ships outside of Joccian Territorial Waters at this time. One of our submarines has not reported back from her patrol.

We are concerned that a collision may have occured, if your warships were indeed violating our territorial waters.

There are no specific orders, at this time, with regard to the engaging of Eredronian Warships.

Communication from HM Government to Eredronian Government

We are concerned not to have received a reply from your attache with regards to Eredronian intentions following their acceptance of the report by the inspectors into alleged atrocities in Joccia.

1. Have you removed your naval and air blockade of our nation?
2. Have you stood down your Armed Forces from their War footing?

Joccia will allow 24 hours for the above to be met, after which time, should no response be forthcoming and should Eredronian forces still threaten our Sea-lanes and Airways, we will have no option but to consider Eredron as an aggressor and take such measures to defend ourselves as we may see fit.

Government figures released today show that since prostitution was legalised by the UN, the Joccian government, using loopholes in the Euthanasia bill, have painlessly terminated over 230,000 people who registered as prostitutes under the new laws. Following hard on the heels of their mental health programme, which saw over 2 million terminations, it must be asked - who next?

The Joccian ministry of Employment is currently registering all long-term unemployed citizens as prostitutes, as well as certain groups of single parents.

"The Empire of the Eternal Dawn strenously and utterly condemns this act of disgusting social cleansing. Furthermore, we of the Imperial Executive Council of the Empire of the Eternal Dawn feel that the overwhelming level of admitted atrocities leaves us with no option but to make an immediate and complete issuance of required terms to the Joccian Government.

"There will be no further comments from the IEC of the EOTED until this matter has been pursued more fully."

~ Excerpted from a trimensional/holovisional/televisual/radio broadcast by INN Solar; speaker: Empress Rialla ux-Rihad II

* * *

{Unencrypted Forced Diplomatic Communique #319}

{TO: Joccian Government, Joccia}
{FROM: High Lord Commodore Ax-randiri Rihad, Appointed Imperial Executive Council Spokesperson, Under-Commander-in-Chief Imperial Defence Forces, Second Minister to the Empress Rialla ux-Rihad II}
{SUBJECT: Immediate Termination of Abominable Joccian Government Policy of Social Cleansing Via Misinterpretation of International Law As Forwared by the United Nations}

{ENCRYPTION: N/A}
{TIME: ERROR, TIMESTAMP MISSING/REMOVED}

{TEXT BODY COMMENCES}

Sir/Madam/Neuter,

It has come to the attention of the Imperial Executice Council of the Empire of the Eternal Dawn that Joccia is engaged, or has engaged, in the heinous crime of Social Cleansing And/Or Summary Termination of Individuals Of Sentient/Sapiant Extraction, Possessing of Free Will and All Abilities Therein, it is my solemn duty to inform the Joccian Government that the Empire of the Eternal Dawn hereby issues the request that the Joccian Government ceases all claims as a sovereign national entity.

Therefore, it is our decision to furthermore request that all rights of control and/or governance of the Formerly Sovereign State of Joccia are passed onto the Imperial Executive Council until such times as a stable, appropriate new Government may be placed in charge of the New Sovereign Free State of Joccia. Until such times as the new Government is in place, the Imperial Executive Council will appoint a Transitional Government, selected from amongst worthy and appropriate individuals in positions of trust and possessing backgrounds of repute, to oversee the transition. Furthermore, any Joccian police forces/military ground forces/naval forces/air forces are to be suspended with immediate effect, to be replaced with the IPC (Imperial Police Corps), IDF SPU (Imperial Defence Forces Strategic Peacekeeping Unit), IDSF (Imperial Defence Special Forces), IDF N (Imperial Defence Forces Navy), and the IDF AF (Imperial Defence Forces Air Force).

Any state actively supporting the Joccian Regime will be expected to end their support forthwith, or face similar requests.

The Empire of the Eternal Dawn pledges to act with all possible peaceable intent to bring this troubling crisis to an end, but will not rule out the possibility that drastic measures may be called for, should these requests not be replied to with all due politeness and in the correct, affirmative manner. We will not place a time-limit on response-time, but expect a rapid and thorough response. Any negative response to these requests will be expected to give thorough and complete lines of reasoning, to be considered by the Imperial Executive Council. The Joccian Government will then be informed of the decisions of the Imperial Executive Council.

Lastly, despite the use of the term 'request', the Empire would like to make it absolutely clear that nothing short of the cessation of all hostilities by/and for/sourced from the Joccian Government towards the Joccian People must cease immediately. Any response falling short of this immediate goal will be considered counter-productive, and further requests will thus be issued.

Any overt increase in hostility originating from/by/sought by the Joccian Government against the Joccian People will be considered an act of war against the Empire of the Eternal Dawn, and, although such shall be treated with all due sorrow, the Empire will not hesitate to respond to such an act of utter hostility with all required violence levels.

We strongly urge the Joccian Government to listen to our requests and adopt a position appropriate the proportional positions of power of our two states.

With Hope,

In stability we trust,

~The Imperial Executive Council of the Empire of the Eternal Dawn

{Communication Terminates}

Joccia made a new post already saying they arent killing prostitutes anymore.

Joccia made a new post already saying they arent killing prostitutes anymore.

[OOC: Read more carefully.]

Ravea considers this mass murder. However, due to the fact that i am lazy and dont relly want to do anything at the moment, we will let you off with a warning and will send you a complmentry basket of fruit.

Enjoy.

Ravea considers this mass murder. However, due to the fact that i am lazy and dont relly want to do anything at the moment, we will let you off with a warning and will send you a complmentry basket of fruit.

Enjoy.

O wait, you arnt killing anyone? Still, take the fruit. we dont need it.

To the people of Ravea we say " Thank you so much for the fruit , I'm sure our Guinea pigs will enjoy it"

To the Empress of Mattock, sorry we didn't catch your name, however, we do not converse with councils unless they are representative of the United Nations.

My dear Empress,

Some of your chaps have sent a rather cheeky note to us and, whilst we know these things happen, we really do feel you ought to be a little bit more careful whom you let near a typewriter thingy.

The cheerful wee scamps suggested that I and my Government were guilty of all sorts of nasty goings on, and even seemed to be saying that I was in breach of International Law, which of course we both know I wasn't.

Damn thing is y'know, they seemed to think they would be taken seriously, well I ask you? How can one?

As to our position in international law, it is quite clear, there has been no mis-interpretation of it at all. It is not the fault of Joccia, or any country if the legislation is left ambiguous, and open to several interpretations.

Now then my dear, do yourself a favour and give these chaps a hard slap on the legs before you get the reputation as a predatory state, who goes round thinking they can pick on smaller chaps.

Did I mention the anachronistic device? No! Oh well I suppose that's just as well, you chaps being future tech and all that!

Anyway pip pip for now, you must come for tea sometime. Oh! of course that wouldn't really be possible would it?

Communication from HM Government to Eredronian Government

We are concerned not to have received a reply from your attache with regards to Eredronian intentions following their acceptance of the report by the inspectors into alleged atrocities in Joccia.

1. Have you removed your naval and air blockade of our nation?
2. Have you stood down your Armed Forces from their War footing?

Joccia will allow 24 hours for the above to be met, after which time, should no response be forthcoming and should Eredronian forces still threaten our Sea-lanes and Airways, we will have no option but to consider Eredron as an aggressor and take such measures to defend ourselves as we may see fit.

The Eredronian naval presence in international waters will maintain its current patrol; Eredronian military forces around the world have increased their alert status in response to this attack.

Furthermore, Eredronian naval warships, both surface and otherwise, will actively hunt and destroy any naval vessel suspected of association or connection with the recent attack on an Eredronian frigate.

ooc I thought about basing on a republican Rome that never became Imperial, but decided against it, Absolute Monarchies can be such fun!

King Mac called for his Prime Minister.

"We shall let the Emperor of Western Rome know that we are cognizant of his comments, and we do understand the misgivings of his government, Let him take heart in the New Law we introduced and see that we are indeed just.

In fact the total number of people who were euthanised under the old law was less than 1% of our population, but the media attention made it seem much more. This media attention has had the effect of making one's subjects 'jump like a guinea-pig with an electrode up it's a**e. They are now working MUCH harder, and seem to have forgotten all of their complaints!

Again we thank the Emperor for his forbearance and concern and to this end we send him herewith a mating pair of the famed Joccian Fighting Guinea Pigs.

OOC: Joccia, I think you're hilarious. So...spontaneous. It's amazing.

You a Roman fan too out of curiosity?

IC: The Roman government wishes to thank King Mac of Joccia for the mating pair of Joccian Fighting Guinea Pigs. Emperor Paul XII has been playing with them ever since he got back from Pirus, BitingReality.

We would also like to express that we are pleased that Joccia is doing this in a humane and civil way, is respecting basic human rights and expresses no more concerns.

ooc I thought about basing on a republican Rome that never became Imperial, but decided against it, Absolute Monarchies can be such fun!

King Mac called for his Prime Minister.

"We shall let the Emperor of Western Rome know that we are cognizant of his comments, and we do understand the misgivings of his government, Let him take heart in the New Law we introduced and see that we are indeed just.

In fact the total number of people who were euthanised under the old law was less than 1% of our population, but the media attention made it seem much more. This media attention has had the effect of making one's subjects 'jump like a guinea-pig with an electrode up it's a**e. They are now working MUCH harder, and seem to have forgotten all of their complaints!

Again we thank the Emperor for his forbearance and concern and to this end we send him herewith a mating pair of the famed Joccian Fighting Guinea Pigs.

OOC: Joccia, I think you're hilarious. So...spontaneous. It's amazing.

You a Roman fan too out of curiosity?

IC: The Roman government wishes to thank King Mac of Joccia for the mating pair of Joccian Fighting Guinea Pigs. Emperor Paul XII has been playing with them ever since he got back from Pirus, BitingReality.

We would also like to express that we are pleased that Joccia is doing this in a humane and civil way, is respecting basic human rights and expresses no more concerns.

To the people of Ravea we say " Thank you so much for the fruit , I'm sure our Guinea pigs will enjoy it"

Too bad it was POISINED FRUIT! Your gerbils will soon drop dead of sever.......fruit poisining. It seems our thinly vieled assassination attemt has failed. Oh well. Want more fruit?

<snip>
My dear Empress,

Some of your chaps have sent a rather cheeky note to us and, whilst we know these things happen, we really do feel you ought to be a little bit more careful whom you let near a typewriter thingy.

The cheerful wee scamps suggested that I and my Government were guilty of all sorts of nasty goings on, and even seemed to be saying that I was in breach of International Law, which of course we both know I wasn't.

Damn thing is y'know, they seemed to think they would be taken seriously, well I ask you? How can one?

As to our position in international law, it is quite clear, there has been no mis-interpretation of it at all. It is not the fault of Joccia, or any country if the legislation is left ambiguous, and open to several interpretations.

Now then my dear, do yourself a favour and give these chaps a hard slap on the legs before you get the reputation as a predatory state, who goes round thinking they can pick on smaller chaps.

Did I mention the anachronistic device? No! Oh well I suppose that's just as well, you chaps being future tech and all that!

Anyway pip pip for now, you must come for tea sometime. Oh! of course that wouldn't really be possible would it?

"Perhaps the Former Joccian Government truly is as stupid as it appears, but somehow, I find the probability of this drastically unlikely. Stupidity may well be the most common element in the universe, but the level displayed in the above missive indeed outweighs any potential total mass that the total sum of stupidity could possibly ever attain.

"Therefore, rather than assuming idiocy (which is tempting), I will assume that this is a rather poorly veiled (?) attempt at sarcastic insult.

"That, although not exactly stupid, is unwise. Yet our infinite mercy persists; an insult dealt such as this is surely but the action of a diseased mind in need of repair: for surely no Government with the best interests of their people at heart would put their own kind at such peril as the Former Joccian Government would have the world believe that we have threatened them with - after all, are we not 'predators', in the eyes of the Former Jocian Government? Does not the predator perceive the stubborn actions of its prey as nowt but the manifestation of fear?

"A predatory state, they say? Why, not at all! We do not prey on anyone. Our interests are above all reproach; we merely aim to bring justice.

"If the Former Joccian Government does not immediately cease operations, we will take action to remove them. They are in breach of all acceptable violence levels (if there was any such thing), and, as such, it is our duty to protect the Joccian People from any further violent acts - for does the rotten apple reverse its condition, and become a sweet and ripe fruit once again? Nay, it does not; it merely rots to greater degree, becoming more overly poisonous to the one whom takes the fatal bite.

"We will pledge, however, that we will not kill a single individual in our pursuit of justice."

~ High Lord Commodore Ax-randiri Rihad

To the people of Ravea we say " Thank you so much for the fruit , I'm sure our Guinea pigs will enjoy it"

Too bad it was POISINED FRUIT! Your gerbils will soon drop dead of sever.......fruit poisining. It seems our thinly vieled assassination attemt has failed. Oh well. Want more fruit?

Your concern for our wildlife is touching. However, Joccian Fighting Guinea Pigs are raised on milk laced with sulphuric acid, there is very little, short of boiling lead, that will affect their wee delicate stomachs. I must admit though, the farts are becoming a problem. We would be glad to take as much fruit as you want to send us. Our scientists have found a way to use the gasses produced in an internal combustion machine. In as far as your thinly veiled asassination attempt goes (note the correct spelling), Thank you for Caring 8)

OOC: Joccia, I think you're hilarious. So...spontaneous. It's amazing.

You a Roman fan too out of curiosity?

IC: The Roman government wishes to thank King Mac of Joccia for the mating pair of Joccian Fighting Guinea Pigs. Emperor Paul XII has been playing with them ever since he got back from Pirus, BitingReality.

We would also like to express that we are pleased that Joccia is doing this in a humane and civil way, is respecting basic human rights and expresses no more concerns.

My thanks both OOC and IC

OOC It's nice to know that there are indeed other nations out there with a twisted sense of the ridiculous. There seem to be too many "Elvish" nations so far up their own........

Yes I'm a bit of a roman fan, I've even written a Fantasy/Roman Skirmish RP game that'll get published when I get enough time.

IC Do please ensure that the Emperor does NOT remove the muzzles from wee chaps, they're not there for decoration you know!

Joccia would like to set up trading relations with the Empire if you're willing?

"Perhaps the Former Joccian Government truly is as stupid as it appears, but somehow, I find the probability of this drastically unlikely. Stupidity may well be the most common element in the universe, but the level displayed in the above missive indeed outweighs any potential total mass that the total sum of stupidity could possibly ever attain.

"Therefore, rather than assuming idiocy (which is tempting), I will assume that this is a rather poorly veiled (?) attempt at sarcastic insult.

"That, although not exactly stupid, is unwise. Yet our infinite mercy persists; an insult dealt such as this is surely but the action of a diseased mind in need of repair: for surely no Government with the best interests of their people at heart would put their own kind at such peril as the Former Joccian Government would have the world believe that we have threatened them with - after all, are we not 'predators', in the eyes of the Former Jocian Government? Does not the predator perceive the stubborn actions of its prey as nowt but the manifestation of fear?

"A predatory state, they say? Why, not at all! We do not prey on anyone. Our interests are above all reproach; we merely aim to bring justice.

"If the Former Joccian Government does not immediately cease operations, we will take action to remove them. They are in breach of all acceptable violence levels (if there was any such thing), and, as such, it is our duty to protect the Joccian People from any further violent acts - for does the rotten apple reverse its condition, and become a sweet and ripe fruit once again? Nay, it does not; it merely rots to greater degree, becoming more overly poisonous to the one whom takes the fatal bite.

"We will pledge, however, that we will not kill a single individual in our pursuit of justice."

~ High Lord Commodore Ax-randiri Rihad

Now, Where does one start?

Ahh, Would the Great High Panjoram or whatever, please, if he speaks for his ruler, first of all dispense with all of his threats, both implied, and overt. We are not impressed by bluster.

Secondly, it is not for Joccia to prove her innocence, rather it is for Mattock to put a case for guilt, NOT a subjective one, a plain legal case.

We are aware of all of your sabre-rattling, and the implied threat of your power, however, we have our own weapons, if neccesary the Fabled I.G.N.O.R.E. cannon, but we do hope it won't come to that.

In as far as you constantly refer to "the former Joccian Government", y'see you fall down there straight away. Joccia is an Absolute Monarchy, and we - King Mac III - rule by Divine Right. I'm sure, although you obviously love your little coven of chaps and chapesses, you would not claim divine power.

Now can we bring this to a polite and sensible level, we are more than happy to hear any complaints you may have, as long as they are not couched in emotional terms, personally we can't stand cry-babies and hysterical girls!

Thank you so much for your time and interest

Mac Rex

My thanks both OOC and IC

OOC It's nice to know that there are indeed other nations out there with a twisted sense of the ridiculous. There seem to be too many "Elvish" nations so far up their own........

Yes I'm a bit of a roman fan, I've even written a Fantasy/Roman Skirmish RP game that'll get published when I get enough time.

IC Do please ensure that the Emperor does NOT remove the muzzles from wee chaps, they're not there for decoration you know!

Joccia would like to set up trading relations with the Empire if you're willing?

OOC: LOL...I've always considered myself to be a little eccentric- maybe "RomeW" is an extension of that. It's also nice to meet more Roman fans- the longest-running Empire in history deserves its props.

IC: The Emperor would like to thank King Mac for his advice- he learned that after the guinea pigs cut a two stich hole on his arm while he tried playing with them. He says he's going to put the muzzles back on them and start breeding them. Paul would like to ask- are these animals show animals or can they be used militarily and/or for hunting purposes?

Also, the Romans would be very happy to set up trading relations with Joccia.

Read the " ...Terrible Malice...AMD string.

Our Guinea Pigs, bless them, are not Actually named under the Geneva Convention, although Pope Riechstallen XXIV did ban them from use (except on the Infidel) in the seventh century after he met one whilst on a state visit to Joccium.

As hunters they are a little too efficient, they cannot be taught to 'fetch'. They are used extensively by the Joccian Pest Control industry, however.

I should make sure the Emperor uses plenty of Dettol on that scratch though, maybe hydroflouric acid would be more sure...

[OOC: I'm no longer bothering with this, as Joccia has made mention of an OOC apparatus as if it were IC. The 'ignore cannon' is an OOC object of amusement, not an IC object of evasion. Therefore, as Joccia cannot distinguish between IC and OOC, Joccia no longer exists.]

He does seem a rather funny chap, however, the Joccian people have developed a rather sophisticated ( :twisted: ) sense of humour, and may not really give hime the appreciation he deserves.

But we do wish him the best of luck in his forthcoming 'World Tour'.

General Liu denies any plans for a "world tour" as he is only amateur. However, do feel free to laugh at his jokes.

Military Communique, Eredron Naval Task Force 'Omega'


1830 hour, 12Feb
Encryption A2X Prefix 001
Status URGENT

Evidence of Joccian involvement in submarine attack. Blockade of Joccia to be reinitiated. Board and detain suspect military vessels.

END
Central Naval Command

Read the " ...Terrible Malice...AMD string.

Our Guinea Pigs, bless them, are not Actually named under the Geneva Convention, although Pope Riechstallen XXIV did ban them from use (except on the Infidel) in the seventh century after he met one whilst on a state visit to Joccium.

As hunters they are a little too efficient, they cannot be taught to 'fetch'. They are used extensively by the Joccian Pest Control industry, however.

I should make sure the Emperor uses plenty of Dettol on that scratch though, maybe hydroflouric acid would be more sure...

The Roman government thanks the Joccian government for their advice. Paul XII greatly appreciates it- he says that it was extremely painful.

As for what the Romans intend on using them for...Paul says they will be used for entertainment purposes, if this is okay with Joccia. The Colosseum hasn't had anything new in a while, so we thank the Joccians for giving us this pet.

If there is anything the Joccians want in return we shall give it to you.

[OOC: I'm no longer bothering with this, as Joccia has made mention of an OOC apparatus as if it were IC. The 'ignore cannon' is an OOC object of amusement, not an IC object of evasion. Therefore, as Joccia cannot distinguish between IC and OOC, Joccia no longer exists.]

Our grateful thanks to Mattock, to be considered non-existant by your wee huddle must be akin to a high compliment. Thank you for your entertaining diatribes, and for losing with such grace. Our nation salutes you :P

Military Communique, Eredron Naval Task Force 'Omega'


1830 hour, 12Feb
Encryption A2X Prefix 001
Status URGENT

Evidence of Joccian involvement in submarine attack. Blockade of Joccia to be reinitiated. Board and detain suspect military vessels.

END
Central Naval Command


Communique to the Eredronian Government from Joccia

Please note that we have no knowledge of any of our ships being involved in any action outside of our territorial limits...This reinstatement of your blockade of our sovereign country is a calculated act of aggression on Joccia...please think again.

OOC this thread is getting mixed up with the humourous stuff that's happening - Anyone know how we shift it to a game thread??

IC Lt.MacDuff made another, hunting sweep of the area, eyes searching the instruments of his Lynx Helicopter for any sign... Wait, there, a very faint shadow on the screen. "Mac 1 to control, I think we've found them, we're going in. Present position green alpha 76. Pray for us...."

The Lynx helicopter, like it's namesake, moved in...

Communique to the Eredronian Government from Joccia

Please note that we have no knowledge of any of our ships being involved in any action outside of our territorial limits...This reinstatement of your blockade of our sovereign country is a calculated act of aggression on Joccia...please think again.

OOC this thread is getting mixed up with the humourous stuff that's happening - Anyone know how we shift it to a game thread??

IC Lt.MacDuff made another, hunting sweep of the area, eyes searching the instruments of his Lynx Helicopter for any sign... Wait, there, a very faint shadow on the screen. "Mac 1 to control, I think we've found them, we're going in. Present position green alpha 76. Pray for us...."

The Lynx helicopter, like it's namesake, moved in...

OOC: Please note, the contents of that communique were encrypted, or 'secret'.

Communique, Joccian Government

As a direct result of the unprovoked attack upon an Eredronian frigate in international waters, Eredron is reinstating a naval blockade of Joccia; this is done so to protect the merchant and military fleets of the international community from suffering a similar attack. The blockade will remain in place indefinitely, until Joccia voluntarily surrenders all those responsible and involved in the attack, or our fleet sinks the involved submarine.

END

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Reinforced from NorthSubCom, nearly two dozen Virginia-class Attack Submarines hunted for their prey, silently patrolling the shores and oceans of Joccia as the Eredronian armada monitored the eastern coastline of Joccia, ready to intercept any incoming ship. Meanwhile, a second carrier battle group was making full steam for the opposing Joccian shore.

Comminque to Eredron:

Cease your blockade immediately or we will be forced to lift it for you. You are distrupting the the trade of the nation of Joccia.

The Armed Republic of Sino believes that Eredron should go mind her own business and backdown immediately. How Joccia treats their people is their business, not that of Eredrons. Eredron has commited an act of aggression by not respecting the naval borders of Joccia.

The Armed Republic of Sino believes that Eredron should go mind her own business and backdown immediately. How Joccia treats their people is their business, not that of Eredrons. Eredron has commited an act of aggression by not respecting the naval borders of Joccia.

Comminque to Eredron:

Cease your blockade immediately or we will be forced to lift it for you. You are distrupting the the trade of the nation of Joccia.


The acts of aggression have been carried out by Joccian naval forces, through their unprovoked attack upon an Eredronian frigate in international waters. Until a successful conclusion to our hunt for the responsible vessel(s), Eredron's naval presence will remain; to allow this attack to go without response is unacceptable, as would be any interference.

OOC: how many ships do you have total off his coast?

I have two fleets each fleet has.
4 intrepid carriers
4 fiery avenger missile ships
4 tracker asw ships
4 shield aa ships
20 iowa battleships
30 ticonderoga cruisers
40 perry frigates
60 burke destroyers
5 LA class subs
5 virginia class subs

My government has been trying to follow the crisis in Joccia, and though the BBC and Joccian UN statements seem to be consistent, my Confederations militiary resources (intelligence) is less certain. None-the-less, my nation is concerned, and would like to call attention to UN debates on the Joccian Genocide (especially a poll I've started).

If there is enough interest on the part of any nation, UN member or not, my government will put forth proposals in the UN to bring stability to the region. Please provide your input in the UN debates (which are open to non-member states as well) or contact my nation privately.

I'd hate to see the unrest in Joccia spread to other nations.

10kMichael
UN Ambassador
Confederation of Mikitivity

The Armed Republic of Sino believes that Eredron should go mind her own business and backdown immediately. How Joccia treats their people is their business, not that of Eredrons. Eredron has commited an act of aggression by not respecting the naval borders of Joccia.

Comminque to Eredron:

Cease your blockade immediately or we will be forced to lift it for you. You are distrupting the the trade of the nation of Joccia.


The acts of aggression have been carried out by Joccian naval forces, through their unprovoked attack upon an Eredronian frigate in international waters. Until a successful conclusion to our hunt for the responsible vessel(s), Eredron's naval presence will remain; to allow this attack to go without response is unacceptable, as would be any interference.

Perhaps your fleet's position was too close for comfort to the Joccians.

OOC: how many ships do you have total off his coast?


OOC:
There is currently a task force consisting of:

1 CVN-77 Aircraft Carrier Intrepid
7 DD-21 Zumwalt-class Land Attack Destroyers
3 Ohio class Ballistic Submarines
15 Oliver Hazard Perry class Frigates
10 Sacramento class Fast Combat Support Ships
5 Wasp class Amphibious Assault Ships

In addition, as previously mentioned, roughly 24 Virginia submarines are in the area, albeit covertly, pursuing the Joccian sub.

A second naval force of roughly the same size is preparing to leave port for the western shore.

The Armed Republic of Sino believes that Eredron should go mind her own business and backdown immediately. How Joccia treats their people is their business, not that of Eredrons. Eredron has commited an act of aggression by not respecting the naval borders of Joccia.

Comminque to Eredron:

Cease your blockade immediately or we will be forced to lift it for you. You are distrupting the the trade of the nation of Joccia.


The acts of aggression have been carried out by Joccian naval forces, through their unprovoked attack upon an Eredronian frigate in international waters. Until a successful conclusion to our hunt for the responsible vessel(s), Eredron's naval presence will remain; to allow this attack to go without response is unacceptable, as would be any interference.

Belem planes hae been authorized to buzz Eredron ships on patrol.

So about every 15-30 minutes your fleet is going to get buzzed by aircraft.

Although all Eredronian ships have been ordered to 'fire only when fired upon', Eredron urges Belem to reconsider in order to prevent 'mistakes'.

Seahawk helicopters are now actively patrolling an area roughly seventy-five miles east of the Joccian coast, where a possible sonar contact was made.

IC Lt.MacDuff made another, hunting sweep of the area, eyes searching the instruments of his Lynx Helicopter for any sign... Wait, there, a very faint shadow on the screen. "Mac 1 to control, I think we've found them, we're going in. Present position green alpha 76. Pray for us...."

The Lynx helicopter, like it's namesake, moved in...

"I'm taking us down to sea level" McDuff told his three man crew "Keep your eyes open and inform immediately of any change"

Intent now on his target MacDuff hopped over the waves.

"Ship moving into contact area, Image conforms to Virginia class Submarine travelling on the surface"

Government figures released today show that since prostitution was legalised by the UN, the Joccian government, using loopholes in the Euthanasia bill, have painlessly terminated over 230,000 people who registered as prostitutes under the new laws. Following hard on the heels of their mental health programme, which saw over 2 million terminations, it must be asked - who next?

The Joccian ministry of Employment is currently registering all long-term unemployed citizens as prostitutes, as well as certain groups of single parents.

**scribbles Joccia onto the "evil and must be smushed list"**

Secret Communication
[i]{--Communication Terminal Alpha 4 Active--}
International Affairs Minister George Freeman Detected
-(*)-Opening Communications Line 3-(*)-
-(*)-Communications Line 3 Open-(*)-
-(*)-Checking Communication Line-(*)-
-(*)-Commmunication Line 3 Clear-(*)-
-(!)-Connecting to International Communications Unit 43265-(!)-
-(!)-Connection to International Communications Unit 43265 Succesfull-(!)-
-(*)-Communications Line Open-(*)-
-----------------Aquiring Message
[quote="Message from Pablicosta"]As a nation and as a government we are highly outraged at the reported figure supplied to us today of your blatent exploitation of both a UN bill and hundreds of thousands of lifes. In future, we ask that you do not take such rash actions to eliminate a problem. We also enforce upon you notification to sned any unwanted citizens to our lands where they will receive fare treatment, which you are clearly incabale of giving. The events of the last two days have completely undermined out confidence in you, and we are currently concidering our options on action. You are to be informed now that we have implaced indefinate sanctions upon you.
Pablicostan Givernment.
-----------------Sending Message
Line Closed, 18:56.

FLASH URGENT
MilCommCent
Encrypt D0A-141


Sonar contact established 0720 at position Home minus 3 ((3 mi. from fleet's position)). Enemy contact engaged. Sinking unconfirmed. Tracking continuing.

Intrepid

END

"Hang on, this could be a bumpy one" MacDuff looked over at his co-pilot, "Are you absolutely certain of the contact" Flight Sergeant Mary Campbell nodded. " OK, action stations everyone, we're going in"...

Un known to anyone outside a select comitee of military officials, 599 Fleet had begun to silently move towards Joccian waters when the report was gained by Pablicosta Inteligence services.
When the agresions in the area of Joccai started, an urgent message was sent to sea base Alpha Y5, discretely operating on-board an oil rig.
Here is a copy of the message;
Sea base Alpha Y5, this is Naval Commander John Lucas, in controll of the Tigershark, 599 Fleet. Alpha Y5, respond"
"Tigershark, this is Alpha Y5 responding. What wrong?"
"We are en-reute to observe and engage Joccian Naval Forces, but we have evidence of other naval presence in the target area. Requesting Surface Support. Over"
"Tigershark, Location confirmed and radar scan of target area complete. Affirmitive, Freedom and her fleet will divert to join you ASAP. ETA 2 hours 34 minutes. Over"
[quote=Commander John Lucas, of the Tigershark]"Thank you Alpha 5, will report when we have visual. Over"

At arround 5:34pm this evening the fleet closed on the Tigershark, and her companions Davidson and Franks. They held a low depth untill they found themselves wthing comms range of the ships, when they surfaced.
The entire fleet, which is approaching Joccai steadily, consists of.
2 Heavy Torpedo Submarines, Tigershark and Davidson,
1 Light High Speed Submarine, Franks,
2 Destroyer class vessels, Kinsley and Tarant,
3 Speeder Boats, Yupie, Gypsie and Pikey,
1 Aircraft carrier, Freedom.

We have increased the fleet size due to risk analysis, following naval movement area. We have every intention for this situation to be resolved peacefully, preferebly with the removal of the Jocain government.

The Eredronian fleet detected the incoming contact as it neared Joccia; fearing Belemian hostilities, the task force immediately assumed battle stations as several dozen F-22E Firehawks lifted into the air, forming an aerial perimeter around the armada while a message was sent to the approaching ships, seeking identification and their intention.

From aboard the carrier, Freedom the fleet captain directed operations.
"Move 4 Degrees west so we are in near perfect alignment with that bay. And check the sub tubes would you, we don't want an embarasment."
The old man with thinning white hair stood proudly on the bridge wearing a pinstripe siut, which was obvioudly tailer made.
The Room juddered a few times, as a loud clunking noise cam from behind the door.
Two beefy looking men drew small pistols and aimed toward the doorway, which flew open.
"Aghh!" Squeeled a young sailor.[/i]
"Don't shoot, urgent information!!!"

"Captain, we have a confirmed visual of 30 or so jets taking to the air from another carrier. We think its Erodian. Permision to man batle stations and initiate contingency?"

"Permision Grannted young boy, get the jets airborn, ready to fight. Go"

"Ye, I mean Yes Sir"


The young scared man was quick out of the door, and the Captain was quick to respond to.

"Collins, Put our guns to the sky, enusre that the other vessels maintain a good aim on the launching vessel. Turn to Starboard, and get those subs to dive and ready the torps."

A shadow cast itself upon the men in the bridge, and a large fighter jet covered the sunlight as it lifted off, ready to begin a patrol which would cover the area.

"Oh, and Collins"

"Yes Captain?"

"Get me my gun"


OOC-I see maybe a skirmish here between the two fleets, of misunderstanding of course, which we could later RP some sort of funeral and/ or court case, maybe after the governmens meet and issues mutual forgiveness. just an idea.

OOC-I see maybe a skirmish here between the two fleets, of misunderstanding of course, which we could later RP....

Sounds good to me.

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"Admiral, multiple fighter launches detected. Still no response to our hailing."

On the bridge of the carrier Intrepid, Admiral Greyes watched the small group of ships on the horizon.

"Order our fighters to maintain their patrol; dispatch VN-30 and -33((Virginia submarines)) to close to 70 meters. Continue hailing."

Skimming the waves, the Lynx helicopter flew on. MacDuff couldn't believe his luck. Still, no defensive shots to dodge would make his job a whole lot easier. Only another few minutes and he would be away 'Scot Free'. "Keep your eyes glued to the screen, Fergie." He told the navigator/Radar op. "Chaz, make sure our payload is ready for delivery, this is going to be a single chance, I don't want us to miss it!"

Sinoese troops will come to reinforce Joccia if a landing is made by a hostile nation.

OOC (to Belem): Do you mean buzzing as in harassment?

OOC: buzzing is when the play flies low to sea love and passes by ships going mach+ basically sonic booming the ships causing everything to shake. Its really annoying. If youve ever seen Top Gun you know what im talking about.

The Roman government is monitoring the situation (as Joccia is a trading partner) and would offer to mediate (with another country, perhaps) a solution to the ordeal diplomatically.

Captain Phillips held his small pistol in his right hand by his side, as his left hand was raised to eye level, shading the sun. He peered through the large paines of glass which surrounded the bridge, watching as his jets constantly flew varied patrol ruites. He allways ket a firm eye on the other fleet in the waters. As he began to think about the coming minutes and hours, he was approached from behind by a tall figure of a man.

"Captain"

Captain Phillips spun around like a bullet, and raised his gun slightly, before realising that it was Admiral Lance Collins who stood infront of him. Collins had been a close friend of Captain Phillips' for 23 years, ever since they served togethor as gunmen in "The Great War". Collins had saved Philips' life one day in that conflict, as the rest of the crew either burnt or drowned.

Captain Phillips gasped aloud as he began to speak,

"Oh Collins! You mustn't sneek on me like that. What is it,do we have news from the enemy fleet?"

"Yes Sir, it appears they have made an attempt to hail us through the comms link. But we only got a blurred signal, must be something disrupting it in the waters between."

"Or they don't want us to know what they said. We have to pressume that they were calling for naval and air re-inforcements. GRANGER!"

A slight man approached the pair, holding a microphone and wearing a headset.

"Yes captain?"

"Tell your pilots to reduce altitude and patrol distance, keep them as close to the main enemy carrier as possible. Prepare to engage. Collins, get he gunmen ready to deal with any airborn attack, and..."

Another man, in full military dress with many decorations ran forward to the small group of men.

"Captain, 2 hostile submarines within engage distance of us, tubes appear armed and they are moving in at speed."

"They made the first move. Do we have confirmed location on the subs?"

"Of course sir, awaiting instruction"

"Attempt to contact them, immediatly.

"We have tried to send multiple communications, on all common frequencies. We still have no responce."

"We have no choice, destroy them. Go"

"Yes Sir"

The man quickly left through the open door and sornat down the metal spiral staircase. Within 20 seconds a red light was flashing accross the ship, and a dim horn bellowed every 5 seconds.

"Granger, get your jets to engage the carrier, then the fleet. Now!"

"OK Skipper, target 10,000 yards and closing, vector 091.5"

MacDuff breathed deeply, this was it, now or never.

"Release on my mark"

He checked his chronometer

"And, 10...9...8...7...

The Roman government is monitoring the situation (as Joccia is a trading partner) and would offer to mediate (with another country, perhaps) a solution to the ordeal diplomatically.

The Nation of Joccia is always ready to speak "Nation unto Nation" and welcomes this diplomatic move from Her Friend Rome W.

We will hear whatever grievances these warmongers have against us, and will answer the same with honesty and compassion.

Should this offer be dismissed, we will have no alternative but to "Crush Our Enemies, Drive Them Before Us, Hear the Lamentation of Their Women!" (ooc - Sorry Arnie)

The Armed Forces of Joccia wait as a hound on the leash, waiting to be let slip. Let us pray that bloodshed can be avoided!

"Sir, VN-30 reports enemy torpedo in the water."

"What? Admiral Greyes turned.

The bridge of the carrier was soon filled with activity.

"Confirmed, tracking multiple torpedoes."

"-VN-33 launching countermeasures."

"-sir, multiple missile locks! We're being painted!" an officer shouted.

The enemy aircraft, that had before been circling the fleet at a cautious distance under the ceaseless eyes of the F-22E Firehawks, had now broken from their standard flight path and were heading for the Intrepid.

"Order our fighters to engage; all ships go to battle stations. Get our AA guns firing!"

The entire armada, having been on edge for nearly a month, was quick to react to the attack. The frigates that had been forming a perimeter around the fleet almost immediately responded to the threat by sending up a scathing volley of SAM missiles while dozens of AA guns lit up, while nearly three dozen F-22Es engaged the aircraft.

While the combat continued, Greyes' XO sent off an urgent message to the Naval Command:

Intrepid attacked hostilities commenced four-two miles east Joccia.


Within ten minutes, the decrypted message had been relayed from Naval Headquarters to Military Command. From there, orders were transmitted to bring an orbiting satellite over the conflict in thirty minutes while a transmission was sent to Task Force Delta, enroute to the western coast of Joccia, to make a course correction to arrive at the Intrepid's location in less than six hours.

As the raid on the Intrepid continued on surface the three subs opened ther torpedo tubes once again and fired twice each. Five large torpedos began hurtling towards the hull of the intrepid, and one directed straight for the surface area of another vessel, protecting the Intrepid.

Above the surface three jets exploded into balls of flames over the Intrepid, raining burning fuel and other componants onto it. Yellow fire lit up the sky as the Erodian fleet tried deperatly to extinguish the threat, but before great damage could be done to the aircraft they spread themsleves out, peeling left and right to co-ordinate the second stage.
Every one of the 62 jets readied their missiles for immediate fire, at speed.
One by one the jets proceeded to smoothly fall down to arround 15 metres. The gracefull decline was followed by an almighty buzz as the engines roared, for a second they moved slowly, but then became little more than blurrs in the mid-day sky. They hurtled at the fleet, dangerously fast, the air behind them became tinted blue as they spead in formation. They reached the relatively unsuspecting fleet (Taken in the context, "You Were Certainly Not Expecting That(form of attack)") and released twin missiles from beneath the wings. Aftetr release they continued the exact same flight path, except for 4. 2 of the 4 had been shot down in a flurry of enemy fire, but two had been unsuccesfull-on account of they had flown directly into a ship at high speed.

This assault was watched by the gunners onboard the destroyers in the fleet as they targetted and fired sheels toward the Intrepid and her fleet.
As the few man controlled shells neared the fleet, a wave of "XX HSMSAs" (XX Hunter Seeker Missiles, Sea to Air) took off from the deck of the Franks, self targeting aireal units from Erodia.

At this point a comms link was attempted, and a message sent offering that hostilities may stop.

...6...5...4...

The entire carrier shook as two torpedoes struck below it's waterline; already hit by several missiles, the carrier was sending great plumes of smoke into the air while emergency crews worked to put out fires and seal off damaged portions of the ship.

Overhead, the fleet's entire complement of F-22E Firehawks were in the air, engaging the enemy aircraft; 5 Wasp-class ships, 10 Sacramento Fast Combat Support Ships and 13 Oliver Perry Frigates assisted them with their formidable Anti-Air defenses.

Despite being caught off-guard, the fleet had regained it's footing. Four Virginia submarines, assisted by 4 Zumwalt Destroyers, were moving to directly engage the enemy surface ships while another three Virginia subs had fired six torpedoes at the three sub signatures detected.

The abrupt kamikaze-like approach had temporarily thrown off the Eredronian fighters, but they quickly pursued, sending off dozens of tracking missiles while the carrier's defenses worked to bring down the incoming volley of missiles.

Meanwhile, 3 Ohio Ballistic Missile Submarines had surfaced away from the fleet. In rapid succession, the three submarines fired off nine cruise missiles at the enemy fleet, before diving again.

An Oliver Perry Frigate had just been struck across the bow by an enemy missile when the signal reached Greyes, with an offer to end hostilities.

Blood trickling down his forehead, smoke filling the bridge, he nodded. "Signal the affirmative," he ordered. "We'll see what they have to say. In the meantime, I want an update on Task Force Delta's position."

OOC: buzzing is when the play flies low to sea love and passes by ships going mach+ basically sonic booming the ships causing everything to shake. Its really annoying. If youve ever seen Top Gun you know what im talking about.

OOC: LOL! Kick ass!

OOC: buzzing is when the play flies low to sea love and passes by ships going mach+ basically sonic booming the ships causing everything to shake. Its really annoying. If youve ever seen Top Gun you know what im talking about.

OOC: LOL! Kick ass!

Government figures released today show that since prostitution was legalised by the UN, the Joccian government, using loopholes in the Euthanasia bill, have painlessly terminated over 230,000 people who registered as prostitutes under the new laws. Following hard on the heels of their mental health programme, which saw over 2 million terminations, it must be asked - who next?

The Joccian ministry of Employment is currently registering all long-term unemployed citizens as prostitutes, as well as certain groups of single parents.

**scribbles Joccia onto the "evil and must be smushed list"**

You'll have to get past Sino and Belem first.

To Belem:

When we defeat Eredron, perhaps one of their agreements of surrend will e to terminate al of their prositutes. LOL!

Emergency Communique to Belem's Naval Commanders:

The ARSN (Armed Republic of Sino Navy), going into bat for Belem and Joccia has authorized the launch of over 60 JL-2 SLBMs from their silos. All targetting the Eredron's Task Force Delta.

The three Xia-II class missile subs were stationed in undisclosed Naval base in Sino. JL-2 (Giant Wave -2) missiles have equal performance the Chinese DF-31 ICBMs (8000km range). They warheads will not be nuclear armed for this mission. It is noted that ballistic missiles of such ferocity can destroy fleets. ETA 6 minutes.

This will not be our last contribution to the war effort.

All friendly units should do their best to keep well off the blasting.

...3...2...

Communique, Joccian Government

Despite the military attacks carried out against Eredronian naval vessels, Eredron is prepared to enter into negotiations to end this dispute without further loss of life. Urge immediate mediation.

Military Dispatch, Pablicostan

In order to prevent further unwanted hostilities, Eredronian warships will withdraw from their offensive moves against the Pablicostan fleet; all fighters will maintain a defensive posture only. Recommend Pablicostan forces will do likewise.

Military Dispatch, Pablicostan

In order to prevent further unwanted hostilities, Eredronian warships will withdraw from their offensive moves against the Pablicostan fleet; all fighters will maintain a defensive posture only. Recommend Pablicostan forces will do likewise.


Emergency, Encrypted Message to Erodian National Leader, and Commander of the engaed fleet

Affirmitive, we will mirror your activity as soon as we see evidence of a ceasefire on your part. We will halt all hostile fire immediatly, and our parolling jets will raise altitude substancialy.
We hope that the hostilities can be resolved as soon as possible.

OOC:

Eredron, not Erodian. Ach!

The Roman Free Press, February 16, 2004

ROME(W)- Roman Emperor Paul XII announced today he is going on a diplomatic mission to Joccia in a last-ditch effort to stop the imending war.

"We kindly ask all of Joccia's aggressors to lower their arms and agree to peace talks," said Paul XII to a rousing crowd outside of RomeW. "Because the agressors have not even tried resolving the situation peacefully with Joccia and it is my firm belief that it can."

Paul believes that the states opposing Joccia- led by Eredron- have been "blinded" by their anger that they cannot see any other solution other than war. "We understand that they are not happy with developments- but Joccia does not wish to go to war and is willing to talk. We would like the enemies of Joccia to give Joccia a chance, as I am sure some kind of agreement can be hammered out without conflict."

Paul expects to be in the Joccian capital in a few days and hopes to meet with both sides as soon as he gets there.

The United Socialist States of Resistencia(USSR) is disgusted to learn that Joccia is using a loop hole in a bill that is meant to do good to instead do evil. The idea that by killing prostitutes you are putting them out of their misery is horrifying. There is no excuse for this attrocity. If you do not like the UN resolution you should have done more to work for its being defeated. then, if that did not work you can resign from the UN. These acts are unexcusable. We pledge our support to any and all nations who stand against these attrocities and have begun a trade embargo againts Joccia.

Secretary of Defense,
United Socialist States of Resistencia

"Eredron has always been committed to a peaceful resolve of this matter, and continues to strive for such an end. Despite the openly hostile actions taken against Eredron by Joccian and Pablicostan military forces which have resulted in the deaths of hundreds of Eredronian servicemen, Eredron is willing to send a delegation to meet with Joccian and Roman officials. However, Eredron reserves it's sovereign right to defend itself from further attack."

Consul Hawkins
Confederated Republic and Principalities of Eredron

"Eredron has always been committed to a peaceful resolve of this matter, and continues to strive for such an end. Despite the openly hostile actions taken against Eredron by Joccian and Pablicostan military forces which have resulted in the deaths of hundreds of Eredronian servicemen, Eredron is willing to send a delegation to meet with Joccian and Roman officials. However, Eredron reserves it's sovereign right to defend itself from further attack."

Consul Hawkins
Confederated Republic and Principalities of Eredron

"Understood. I will be in Joccia in a few days mediate a peaceful resolution to the matter."

Paul XII
Roman Emperor

We pledge our support to any and all nations who stand against these attrocities and have begun a trade embargo againts Joccia.

Secretary of Defense,
United Socialist States of Resistencia

"Commies have fews goods to produce for their own people, let alone trade with the outside world."

- General Liu (more comedy).

The Sinoese Military Junta advices the governement of Joccia to consider annexing territories off Eredron for national security reasons and also, the signing of a non-agression treaty with Eredron.

Does Belem have any similar suggestions?

The Sinoese Military Junta advices the governement of Joccia to consider annexing territories off Eredron for national security reasons and also, the signing of a non-agression treaty with Eredron.

Does Belem have any similar suggestions?

Belem supports Sino's idea.

The Sinoese Military Junta advices the governement of Joccia to consider annexing territories off Eredron for national security reasons and also, the signing of a non-agression treaty with Eredron.

Does Belem have any similar suggestions?

I'm not sure if I agree with the annexations (so as not to anger Eredron because Joccia is "too close for comfort"), but the treaty wholeheartedly yes.

URGENT COMMUNIQUE TO BELEM AND SINO

Joccia asks her allies to stand down from hostile activity whilst peace talks are initiated. We feel that the Roman Emperor may be able to mediate in this matter, and would not wish for our dear friends to suffer any bloodshed if all-out war can be avoided.

TO EREDRON

In order to negate actions that could have far reaching effects for the region, we ask that Eredron accepts the offer from Rome W in mediation talks. We will halt all warlike actions whilst we await your reply.

TO PABLICOSTAN

We are unsure as to your stance in this conflict, initial contact suggested that your weapons were being targetted at Joccian military installations, however, the current situation suggests otherwise. Please cease all hostile activity.

Communication to Joccia

"It seems that recent media attention has strayed from the reason of this incident. Pablicosta requests that you state whether you have continued your plans for mass genocide. Respond Immediatley.


Further information:-Three nore full offencive naval fleets are actively moving to form guard alongside the existing fleet. Outside this naval force, naval transported troops are en-route to join the fleet.

Please see our communique of 9th February 2004 - BBC - Joccia - the King Speaks:

"Today, King Mac the Third of Joccia made an historic public announcement to the People of Joccia

“Whereas the United Nations has seen fit to legalise Euthanasia in International Law, and, whereas Joccia is a member of the United Nations and is bound by the resolution. We have today issued legislation pursuant to the above. This legislation supersedes and revokes any precedent legislation on the subject of Euthanasia.

Every individual person in Joccia has the right to make their choice with regard to resuscitation, or attempted resuscitation of their body should death occur, or receiving life prolonging treatment where little or no hope of recovery is in evidence or the prolonging of life in a comatose state where the condition of the brain is deteriorated or unknown. This is to be signified in a “Living Will”, which must be witnessed by two persons, and registered with a notary or solicitor.

No person or persons shall have the right to make any such decision concerning the life or death of another.

Any person suffering from a chronic or terminal illness, who believes that their suffering is beyond their capacity to endure may request such treatment as will alleviate that suffering, even if such treatment results in death.

In the case of a person who is unaware of their state by either mental debility or coma, the relatives or other concerned persons shall have no rights to request termination of life.



The preceding law is effective immediately. "

Responding Communique

Does this mean you are putting halt to all recent activity refering to "termination"?

Although the means for 'so called' mass terminations still exists in International Law, under the UN Euthanasia resolution, this instrument no longer exists in Joccia as can be seen in the above exerpt from Joccian Law.

Joccia has never strayed outside of the law and does not intend to. We have issued legislation which puts right the wrongs of the UN legislation.

In Joccia, no-one has the right to take the life of another.

Right,so as soon as we aknowledge a full apologie to the families of those killed, and a pardon, we will remove our military from your position.

We do not WANT war, however...

Communique to Pablcostalotsa

We note from our observation of the actions so far taken by your nation with regard to the nation of Eredron, that you are reponsible for the deaths of around 2000 of that country's servicemen and women, and probably an equal number of your own.

We respectfully suggest that you wash the blood from your own hands before seeking to admonish others.

To the Government of Joccia, RomeW

The Minister of Foreign Affairs, A. Rowling has agreed and been given the necessary powers to fully represent the Eredronian Republic in settling this affair; as a token of goodwill, all Eredronian naval forces are withdrawing to a position one hundred miles from the coast of Joccia; Eredron's submarine force has been ordered to return to port.

Pablicostan Government

Eredron seeks full and immediate compensation of nine hundred fifty million Eredronian Marks for the damages and loss of life caused by your unprovoked attack upon our naval forces stationed near Joccia; the carrier Intrepid has been dealt critical damage, as well as several frigates; countless hundreds of personnel and officers have been killed or injured. For this, an official apology is also demanded.

Further hostilities will result in an immediate state of war.

Official Communique to the Eredronian Government

We thank you for your generous acceptance of the offer of mediation talks. Further we are cognizant of your goodwill in the removal of your forces from our immediate vicinity and of the reduction of threat.

In replying to your goodwill gesture, may we assure you of full and unqualified Joccian support in any negotiations/conflict arising from the unprovoked and reckless attack of the Pablicostan fleet.

We will also seek the support of our allies The Imperial nation of Belem and Sino in the furtherance of your cause

...1...MARK!

"Payload released skipper".

"Right, now lets see if we can get ourselves out of here and home!"

Pablicostan Government

Eredron seeks full and immediate compensation of nine hundred fifty million Eredronian Marks for the damages and loss of life caused by your unprovoked attack upon our naval forces stationed near Joccia; the carrier Intrepid has been dealt critical damage, as well as several frigates; countless hundreds of personnel and officers have been killed or injured. For this, an official apology is also demanded.

Further hostilities will result in an immediate state of war.


Eredron Government

We have received and acknowledged your demands, but we refuse to pay your "Compensation".

[i]Military Directory of Conflict,
Permision to Engage Circumstances
-Naval.


In the event that a foreign vessel comes within firing range of a Pablicostan vessel (Of any sort) the captain of the lead vessel is obliged to
-Attempt to communicate.
-If this attempt fails, the captain is within his rights to arm all of his vessels.
-Attempt to communicate a second time.
-If this attempt fails the captain is to regard the vessel as hostile.
-Attempt final warning communication.
-If the vessel still fails to respond the captain is obliged to engage the vessel, with support from his fleet.
-Through combat communication attempts should be repeated.


For this reason we find ourselves unable to issue compensation, but we formally apologise to the families of those who unfortunatly lost their lifes.
So is the way of the world.

Pablicostan Government

Carrying out an provoked attack in international waters during a state of peace exists is considered an open act of war. Pablicosta's refusal to right the wrongs they have committed is unfortunate.

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Private Communique, Joccia

Minister Rowlings and a team of delegates are preparing to depart Eredron Intl. Airport in three hours; expected flight time to Joccia is five hours. Due to present conditions, it is Eredron's desire that the minister's airliner be allowed a full military escort for the entire duration, including permission to enter Joccian airspace.

We look forward to a speedy conclusion to this regrettable incident.

In order for peace to return, all parties wishing for peace must accept the simple fact, the simple fact that Joccia's problem solving was not considered "mass muder" or "genocide".

- Armed Republic of Sino Ministry of Foreign Affairs

After touching down in Joccia, Paul XII made this announcement:

"I have arrived in Joccia with the hopes of initiating peace talks. In order for this best to work, what I am going to require is every party state their side first and then see if we can reach a middle ground from there. Each side will get equal opportunity to discuss their side. Whoever wants to begin discussing their position is free to go."

Private Communique, Joccia

Minister Rowlings and a team of delegates are preparing to depart Eredron Intl. Airport in three hours; expected flight time to Joccia is five hours. Due to present conditions, it is Eredron's desire that the minister's airliner be allowed a full military escort for the entire duration, including permission to enter Joccian airspace.

We look forward to a speedy conclusion to this regrettable incident.

Clearance is hereby given for the Eredronian formation to enter Joccian airspace. The call-sign shall be "Peace".

Obviously, for security reasons, there can be no landing clearance for the combat aircraft accompanying the airliner, and we expect them to vacate our airspace as soon as may be.

The Joccian Government are pleased to welcome Minister Rowlings and his team. A State Banquet has been arranged to welcome Emperor Paul XII of Western Rome and the invitation is cordially extended to your Minister.

It is hoped that we may be able to reach an understanding between our great Nations, that will lead to a greater, more rewarding relation ship, and tothis end we pray for divine help.

Emperor Paul XII was met by Prime Minister Peabody at Irvine International Airport this morning.

He inspected the Honour Guard formed by Soldiers of the Midnight Watch and the Joccian Guards.

The Motor cavalcade drove him to Culzean Castle where he met with King Mac III, the meeting continues...

"Thank you for your cordial invitation," said Paul XII to Joccian King Mac III. "We appreciate your kindness and of the delicacy of your food."

Paul sat there in awe over the food he was eating. He's never tasted anything this good. He was determined to reopen trade routes with Joccia if only to import whatever delicacy he was eating.

"This is really good stuff. Thank you for treating me to it. Once we're done with the meeting you should tell me what it is."

"Anyway, on to official business. As you are first here King Mac, tell me your position in this matter."

"Thank you for your cordial invitation," said Paul XII to Joccian King Mac III. "We appreciate your kindness and of the delicacy of your food."

Paul sat there in awe over the food he was eating. He's never tasted anything this good. He was determined to reopen trade routes with Joccia if only to import whatever delicacy he was eating.

"This is really good stuff. Thank you for treating me to it. Once we're done with the meeting you should tell me what it is."

"Anyway, on to official business. As you are first here King Mac, tell me your position in this matter."

My Dear Emperor, may I call you Caesar? Thank you so much. We seem to have so little Royal company these days, it is you who do us Honour.

This whole sordid affair should be sorted out in no time, why all we require is to know how we have contravened International Law as set down in UN resolutions.

You should try some of the Guinea Pig legs, they are delicious - ordinary guinea pigs, not our Fighting chaps, of course.

Y'see, some of my chaps, y'know the parliament types, may well have taken things a smigeon further than I would have liked, but they were acting in accordance with that dem thing of Grande's d'y'see. Now I'm sure you're aware of these political wallers, I would think that you're surrounded by the blighters, hey?

This wine is imported from Iuthia, right under the nose of their blasted blockade, but y'see it's lovely stuff, couldn't rightly do without it!

Anyway, as I was saying Paul, y'don't mind me calling you Paul now,do you? As I was saying, we pride ourselves on upholding the old UN, this resolution comes along, tells us that we have a duty to relieve suffering by this youtha, euthan, oh blast, killing thingy... so that's what my chaps do.

' Course their awfully ardent y'know. Dem me! Had to stop the little stinkers from euthingying people for catching a dem cold last week!

Anyway, got to admit I didn't like the whole show, it's not what Kinging is about y'know. Not killing one's subjects. I took a look at the blasted UN ruling, saw it was full of holes you could drive a coach and four through and decided to do my own thing.

That's about it old chap.

Let's see, it's Thursday isn't it? Oh Huzzah! Caramel Pudding with custard!

Minister Rowlings, after a brief tour of the area, had returned to hear the beginning of the meeting. Following the Joccian King's statements, he had consulted with a junior member of the Consul's administration, before beginning his remarks.

"To His Majesty Mac the Third, His Imperial Lordship Paul the Twelfth, I send the greetings of the Consul Supreme Hawkins and the Senate of Majorities. It is on their behalf I am come, representing the people and Government of the Eredron Republic.

Seeking peace and an end to animosity, I have come to present Eredron's perspective and position. The programs initiated by the Joccian Government, specifically those responsible for the deaths of over two million persons, were and are viewed by the Eredronian Government as a menace to civilized society. Because of this strong objection, Eredron involved itself, seeking to put a stop to the practice, viewed as mass murder.

A military naval force was ordered to carry out a full blockade of Joccia as a direct response to the euthanization programs; unfortunately, members of the international community reacted hastily. An undesired escalation in tensions began. Finally, as Eredronian forces were preparing to withdraw from the area, an unprovoked attack was carried out on a frigate, flying Eredronian colors, in international waters. This was followed shortly thereafter by an all-out attack upon Eredron's naval presence.

As of now, all Eredronian naval forces have or are returning to port; all surveillance flights, many carried out in secret, have been grounded. The next step is up to Joccia to take.

Full cooperation by Joccia into the torpedo attack against the Eredron frigate is demanded, as well as full disclosure of all information relating to the attack, including all information pertaining to possible Joccian involvement or knowledge.

In return, Eredron will agree to make no attempt to restrict or end the Joccian euthanization programs.

These are the terms I have been instructed to present on behalf of the Government of Eredron."

"Now, now dear fellow, Mr Rowlings, do sit down dear chap, and have a glass of Iuthia's finest."

"McScrott! Take Mr Rowlings hat and coat man!"

"McScrott! then take his friend down to the kitchens and see if Cook can feed him up, poor chap looks half-starved."

"Now, do you two know one another?"

"Thought Not! Bloody chamberlains down with a bug, should've announced you, d'y'see"

"Mr Rowlings, It is my pleasure to introduce to you Paul XII, Emperor of Western Rome, Liberator of BitingReality, Father to his People"

"Paul, old chap, this is Mr Rowlings one of those political chaps from Eredron"

Thank you for your input Mr. Rowlings. However, I would like to hear Joccia's side regarding the military mishaps, as King Mac hasn't addressed this.

"Ah, well Emperor, there you've put your finger right on it!"

"Have some more trifle, why don't you."

"This whole story of one of my submarines launching an unprovoked attack on an Eredronian vessel in International Waters, strange, very strange."

Excuse me a moment, this pud is dem fine y'know, dem fine."

Well I can tell you it's flummoxed me, and no denyin' it.

:oops: "Oh, er, pardon me. D'y' hear me - I said pardon me? Me! I'm the king. I should be doin' the pardonning! Eh, hehehe, pardon me indeed..."

"Where was I now?"

"Oh yes"

Thing is, have to admit that one of our sub-chaps is missing, haven't heard or seen hide nor hair of it for days. Very strange that, chaps usually call in regularly."

"Sorry Paul you were saying something?"

Okay then, Your Highness, do you agree to send a team to investigate the unprovoked attack and fully aid Eredron in the recovery from it?

Okay then, Your Highness, do you agree to send a team to investigate the unprovoked attack and fully aid Eredron in the recovery from it?

Perhaps we can make jokes about the incident here:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=125282

"If Joccia refuses to cooperate with this investigation, Eredron will have no choice but to break off diplomatic ties immediately, and take care of this rogue submarine itself."


((Basically just a bump))

Okay then, Your Highness, do you agree to send a team to investigate the unprovoked attack and fully aid Eredron in the recovery from it?

"As I say, we are not aware of any unprovoked attack outside of our territorial waters."

"Do hurry up and finish your pud, m'dear Emperor, there's some absolutely exquisite Menelcarian Brandy to come"

"Now, where was I?"

"Ummm..."

"Oh, Bless Me, I do hope you'll forgive me."

"Yes, if there was an attack of some sort, We'd definately want to help all we could to sort it out."

" Must follow procedure though"

"McScrott, dem your eyes. Get me the Naval bod, y'know the First Sea Lord or whatever."

"Right then Gentlemen, all we've to do is to wait for him then..."

King Mac, the Romans love your state. It is a quirky, affable state located near our great nation. However, we are worried that you are getting yourself in too much trouble, which could be avoided. We have no problems with you wanting to "liven up" the international scene with some light-hearted actions, but we don't want the situation to escalate unnecessarily.

King Mac, the Romans love your state. It is a quirky, affable state located near our great nation. However, we are worried that you are getting yourself in too much trouble, which could be avoided. We have no problems with you wanting to "liven up" the international scene with some light-hearted actions, but we don't want the situation to escalate unnecessarily.

Encrypted Diplomatic Communique, Min. Rowlings


Report received. Behavior unacceptable. Ministry of State believes Joccia to be stalling for time for military buildup; refusal to accept responsibility expected. If no progress made by the end of tomorrow, signal for return.

Eredro

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Realizing that he was facing diplomatic disaster, Paul thought quickly. He had to say something, so he did.

"Eredron, the Roman people understand your position and we understand you are not happy with the chain of events so far. However, it is my belief that Joccia does not appreciate the naval and air blockade of their country and caused the attack- whatever it was- because of the blockade. As far as I'm concerned, the blockade seems to be an extreme measure, especially considering most nations- including yours, if I am not mistaken- believe that Joccia has not violated any human rights, and even if they did, it is not our business to tell them how to run their country.

This is about an unprovoked attack on an Eredronian ship, correct? I understand you are upset about it, but I'm not sure if it is worth a World War. There are several powerful nations ready to fight should this come to blows, and it could have devastating effects all over the world. Cease diplomatic relations with Joccia, refuse to trade with them if you have to, but please, do not go to war over a few sunken ships. If we have to, RomeW will gladly aid the recovery of your ships- the province of BitingReality provides state-of-the-art ship-building and can gladly provide you with the ships you need. The world needs stability now, so please end whatever relations you want with Joccia if you are that upset, but please, leave them alone, for the sake of the world.

...and"- Paul turned now to King Mac III of Joccia- "your Highness King Mac III, please, send some delegates out to investigate what happened. For the sake of the world, please let's keep the peace. This problem is not worth a World War."

Paul retired to his chambers leaving King Mac and Minister Rowlings alone in the room. He hoped he averted a conflict, because he knew RomeW could not afford to get involved with one.

OOC: Is there a physical map for this segment of the world, or a general idea of who is close to what? I ask so I can have a definitive idea of the proximity of the regions and nations involved. I also ask because I'd like to create one if that is okay.

ooc - Create away, I have no problem with that.

Latest News. Zusayan KGB launches Marriage/Divorce Rings in Joccia.

Instant marriage ceremonys, consumation and divorce can all be had, for a fee, from specially trainted operatives and their women.

Yes walk in, hire the service, and using our automated 10 second marriage/10 second divorce system take your pic of the brides.
A must for fustrated Joccians.

"Our blockade was initiated as a direct response to reports of mass executions taking place in Joccia, which has been confirmed. Our fleet remained in international waters, and has already withdrawn from the area as a gesture of friendship. In return, Joccia has refused to accept any responsibility for the attack, despite their own reports that submarines in their navy have turned renegade. Joccia has refused to cooperate with an investigation. They have used stalling tactics to hinder any kind of salvage effort, and add insult to injury by making no form of apology to the families of those men killed or wounded in the attack. Clearly, this is simply a maneuver to keep Eredron occupied while Joccia and her allies prepare a military buildup aimed against Eredron.

In the interest of peace, we are prepared to accept a compensation of 850 million Eredronian Marks and an official acceptance of responsibility, as well as an apology, from Joccia, for the attack. These terms are non-negotiable."

"Right Mr. Rowlings, now we're alone"

The King laid down his spoon and looked across at the Eredronian envoy, his eyes steely hard. All the trappings of a foppish fool dropped away.

"We both know that your frigate had strayed inside Joccian waters."

"We both know that your Government would be embarrassed by such a, shall we say 'mistake' on the part of one of her captains."

"Until very recently we thought that the ship might have had a 'special mission' that might have nothing to do with the current crisis."

"Now we are sure!"

"It would be most useful to a country like Eredron if, with no warning, say, a nation like Joccia apparently launched an unprovoked biological WMD strike at, say, part of Texas, rendering it uninhabitable for a time.”

“Why in that situation Eredron could launch an attack on Joccia with full UN consent and find ‘evidence’ of a biological warfare program. Eredron, the knight in shining armour, could then possibly occupy Texas, on humanitarian grounds…”

I think it may be useful for you to have a discussion with your government at this juncture, don’t you? Old chap?”

"Right Mr. Rowlings, now we're alone"

The King laid down his spoon and looked across at the Eredronian envoy, his eyes steely hard. All the trappings of a foppish fool dropped away.

"We both know that your frigate had strayed inside Joccian waters."

"We both know that your Government would be embarrassed by such a, shall we say 'mistake' on the part of one of her captains."

"Until very recently we thought that the ship might have had a 'special mission' that might have nothing to do with the current crisis."

"Now we are sure!"

"It would be most useful to a country like Eredron if, with no warning, say, a nation like Joccia apparently launched an unprovoked biological WMD strike at, say, part of Texas, rendering it uninhabitable for a time.”

“Why in that situation Eredron could launch an attack on Joccia with full UN consent and find ‘evidence’ of a biological warfare program. Eredron, the knight in shining armour, could then possibly occupy Texas, on humanitarian grounds…”

I think it may be useful for you to have a discussion with your government at this juncture, don’t you? Old chap?”

OOC: Check and mate. I underestimated your intelligence Joccia. Good job.

"Right Mr. Rowlings, now we're alone"

The King laid down his spoon and looked across at the Eredronian envoy, his eyes steely hard. All the trappings of a foppish fool dropped away.

"We both know that your frigate had strayed inside Joccian waters."

"We both know that your Government would be embarrassed by such a, shall we say 'mistake' on the part of one of her captains."

"Until very recently we thought that the ship might have had a 'special mission' that might have nothing to do with the current crisis."

"Now we are sure!"

"It would be most useful to a country like Eredron if, with no warning, say, a nation like Joccia apparently launched an unprovoked biological WMD strike at, say, part of Texas, rendering it uninhabitable for a time.”

“Why in that situation Eredron could launch an attack on Joccia with full UN consent and find ‘evidence’ of a biological warfare program. Eredron, the knight in shining armour, could then possibly occupy Texas, on humanitarian grounds…”

I think it may be useful for you to have a discussion with your government at this juncture, don’t you? Old chap?”

"Perhaps you should keep yourself in check, lest others take your rash words as a threat. Texas is of no concern to Eredron, neither will you dictate what would be good for Eredron, lest more attention be placed on the blood of millions that are on your hands."

He rose, smoothing his tie before continuing icily. "I will contact my government; in the meantime, our terms remain. I would appreciate an answer before I leave tomorrow morning."

"Right Mr. Rowlings, now we're alone"

The King laid down his spoon and looked across at the Eredronian envoy, his eyes steely hard. All the trappings of a foppish fool dropped away.

"We both know that your frigate had strayed inside Joccian waters."

"We both know that your Government would be embarrassed by such a, shall we say 'mistake' on the part of one of her captains."

"Until very recently we thought that the ship might have had a 'special mission' that might have nothing to do with the current crisis."

"Now we are sure!"

"It would be most useful to a country like Eredron if, with no warning, say, a nation like Joccia apparently launched an unprovoked biological WMD strike at, say, part of Texas, rendering it uninhabitable for a time.”

“Why in that situation Eredron could launch an attack on Joccia with full UN consent and find ‘evidence’ of a biological warfare program. Eredron, the knight in shining armour, could then possibly occupy Texas, on humanitarian grounds…”

I think it may be useful for you to have a discussion with your government at this juncture, don’t you? Old chap?”

"Perhaps you should keep yourself in check, lest others take your rash words as a threat. Texas is of no concern to Eredron, neither will you dictate what would be good for Eredron, lest more attention be placed on the blood of millions that are on your hands."

He rose, smoothing his tie before continuing icily. "I will contact my government; in the meantime, our terms remain. I would appreciate an answer before I leave tomorrow morning."

Paul overheard the conversation King Mac and Minister Rowlings had from his room. They were quite loud, and, after hearing what Rowlings had said, he decided to step back into the conference to see if he could catch Rowlings before he left.

As he left his room, he saw Minister Rowlings from a distance. He called him out and grabbed his attention.

"Mr. Rowlings, I couldn't help but hear the exchange you and King Mac had. I couldn't avoid hearing it from my room- it was quite loud.

Anyway, pardon my nosiness, but if I may, you do sound a little hypocritical when you told King Mac that he cannot say what is good for Eredron when you instituted the naval and aerial blockade because you didn't like what Joccia was doing within their own country. Joccia is a soverign state, able to form its own policies on its own. They did nothing against your nation or anyone else's- they're keeping things within their state. State affairs should not be the business of foreign governments to tamper with, and, seeing how Joccia is independent of you, you should not tell Joccia what to do. You may not agree with it, but you have to respect a country's right to freely govern its own country."

Hurriedly walking to his private quarters, Rowlings tried to conceal his irritation when Paul stopped him.

"No government has the right to execute millions of its own citizens, free of international intervention," the Minister responded in a cool voice, hardly breaking his stride. "Unless you are saying, we should be content that Joccia contained its mass murder within its borders?"

"That is the gist of it, yes. If you want to look at it that way, yes, we should be content that Joccia is only doing it to themselves and is not going to other countries with the intent of imposing their program there. Running Joccia is Joccia's concern, not ours. As much as we do not agree with what the Joccians have done, they are a completely soverign nation, and as such their freedom to 'hurt themselves' if you will should be respected," said Paul to Minister Rowlings.

Mac III joined the arguing pair in the corridor.

"Emperor, Minister, please. There is surely enough dischord in the world without the need for more!"

"Upon a point of International Law, you win the argument My Dear Paul, but, for the sake of compassion and humanity, Eredron's case is water-tight!"

"How then shall this be resolved?"

"However, we must first deal with another situation. My words, just now, were for the ears of Eredron alone, I have unwittingly drawn you into this mess, dear Emperor. This may make things difficult for Eredron."

"To speak plainly, there are those in my Government who believe that their King is a foolish fop, a puppet in their hands, to be used for the furtherence of their own ends. It pleases me to allow them to think these thoughts, and to act, to a point. In this way, I find out who may be trusted."

"It is unfortunate that so many of my people had to die in order to expose the traitors, but, Prime Minister Peabody and his friends now reside in the Tower of Irvine, temporarily of course."

The King paused for a moment.


"Back to the point in hand, Minister Rowlings, and you'd better hear this too Paul, I have been in contact with the HMJS Nemo since the first contact with your frigate. One of my helicopters was able to gain access to the site of the 'accident', incidentally, just before one of your submarines visited the same point."

The helicopter was able to launch a mini-sub, which located wreckage on the sea-bed, not of a frigate, which to the best of my belief is now back in an Eredronian Port, but of a submersible missile delivery system, bearing marks of Eredronian make. A salvage operation is currently under way, and I think we can guess what will be discovered."

"It is not my intention to make this information public, and, as my guest, I hope that you will treat the matter in the strictest confidence Paul."

It may be Mr Rowlings, that this matter is known to you, or your Government, or it may be that you too suffer from some , shall we say, 'rotten apples in the barrel' at home. Either way, I think that the world would be a happier place if we all washed our dirty linen at home, don't you think?"

Mac III joined the arguing pair in the corridor.

"Emperor, Minister, please. There is surely enough dischord in the world without the need for more!"

"Upon a point of International Law, you win the argument My Dear Paul, but, for the sake of compassion and humanity, Eredron's case is water-tight!"

"How then shall this be resolved?"

"However, we must first deal with another situation. My words, just now, were for the ears of Eredron alone, I have unwittingly drawn you into this mess, dear Emperor. This may make things difficult for Eredron."

"To speak plainly, there are those in my Government who believe that their King is a foolish fop, a puppet in their hands, to be used for the furtherence of their own ends. It pleases me to allow them to think these thoughts, and to act, to a point. In this way, I find out who may be trusted."

"It is unfortunate that so many of my people had to die in order to expose the traitors, but, Prime Minister Peabody and his friends now reside in the Tower of Irvine, temporarily of course."

The King paused for a moment.


"Back to the point in hand, Minister Rowlings, and you'd better hear this too Paul, I have been in contact with the HMJS Nemo since the first contact with your frigate. One of my helicopters was able to gain access to the site of the 'accident', incidentally, just before one of your submarines visited the same point."

The helicopter was able to launch a mini-sub, which located wreckage on the sea-bed, not of a frigate, which to the best of my belief is now back in an Eredronian Port, but of a submersible missile delivery system, bearing marks of Eredronian make. A salvage operation is currently under way, and I think we can guess what will be discovered."

"It is not my intention to make this information public, and, as my guest, I hope that you will treat the matter in the strictest confidence Paul."

It may be Mr Rowlings, that this matter is known to you, or your Government, or it may be that you too suffer from some , shall we say, 'rotten apples in the barrel' at home. Either way, I think that the world would be a happier place if we all washed our dirty linen at home, don't you think?"

OOC: I know the exchange between you and Eredron was meant to be between just you two but I thought of something that might convince Eredron not to go to war, so I had to interject.

IC: "King Mac, you have my word." Paul stood in stunned silence, then spoke after an awkward pause.

"I think tonight we have all gotten a little too hot-headed. Let us all retire to our chambers, rest and continue the discussions tommorow, where cooler, and more reasonable, heads should prevail."

((OOC: I'll go along with this for now, Joc))

Rowlings froze, and for the first time lost his calm demeanor. "Let us hope, for your sake, whatever lies at the bottom of the sea remains there," he growled. "The consequences of doing otherwise could be damaging to certain parties."

He turned to walk to his quarters, but stopped. "I shall be leaving on the earliest flight available; perhaps you will have reached a decision before I leave."

"MR. Rowlings, I stress the title MR., You have been afforded every courtesy my Nation can offer! You WILL remember that you are in not only My Royal Presence, but you are also before the Emperor of ROME! I feel that your Head of State might expect a little more decorum? Do please remember also that we Heads of State may have our fallings out, but we are still members of an exclusive club...."

The King continued in a calmer voice.

"Be prepared to leave our country immediately, I shall see to it that your conveyance is fuelled and ready by the time you reach the Airport. You shall have an escort of RJAF Jaguars to see you safely to the limits of our airspace."

The Kings voice now dripped with honey and venom.

"You may take this message back to your Government: When they are pleased to send a DIPLOMAT to treat with us we shall be glad to discuss any grievance they feel warrants reparation. We do hope though that it may be soon, an untreated carbunckle is likely to burst."

"Your archaic concepts of royalty and nobility have been awarded all the respect it deserves," Rowlings snapped back as his aides came in, carrying several bags with them.

"Goodbye, Your Majesty."

------

As soon as he was in the air, Rowlings sent off a dispatch to the capital.

Negotiations failed

A Sinoese operative, observing with a listening device to the negotiations from a distance has watched as the representative from Eredron moved clumsily with his luggage out off the conference area.

"Looks like the show's over. The sh*t's gonna hit the fan pretty soon." He voiced his report on a mobile phone before disposing off it in a nearby garbage bin.

"Those Eredronian pigs never learn." A man on the other side hung up soon after wards, feeling for his ARSN (Armed Republic of Sino Navy) badge on his left lapel.