NationStates Jolt Archive

Today, Crimson Sparta is embarking on the beginnings of its space fleet.

We have ample military forces at home, on Earth, but the stars are calling to us, and we must answer them.

We are looking for exploratory, military, and civilian transport ships that will be able to travel at least 100LY in good time. For that to take place, we must begin R&D now while we have a good surplus and the current knowledge of friends and allies.

We have no designs for our fleets as of yet, mainly because we do not possess the technology to begin brainstorming about blueprints.
We hope that as we progress, things become easier to and cheaper to make.

The current project has begun with a budget of $5 trillion.

Our plans for right now call for a space elevator, which has recently begun construction. This will allow us easier access into space and will make solar system-wide trips a lot less time consuming.

Projections call for the base of the elevator to be at least 30 miles high. We will announce the completion of that project when it is finished, and then we will go from there.

OOC: Before I say anything, are you connected in any way to the nation "Crimson blades"?

OOC: We are in no way affiliated with Crimson blades.

OOC: Okay. I may now acknowledge your existence

IC:

Greetings from the Klonor Space Corps! We, those who inhabit the realms of Space, wish to welcome you to the bosom of the stars. Knowing that you are just now entering the vast void, we are more than willing to donate ships and technology in the hope that you will be able to join us as sailors of the Void.

If you have any needs that we can satisfy, feel free to ask. We shall help in any way we can. Also, feel free to visit the Young Nation Storefront (Yes, I kinow you're not a young nation, but you're just starting space so it might still help) run by the Klonor Ship Store. It shall hopefully help you on your way.

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Supreme General Yunger Keane

http://hometown.aol.com/jbk405/images/captain.jpg

Commander of the Klonor Space Corps

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http://www2.freepichosting.com/Images/134012/0.jpg (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=108847)

OOC: Oh, I forgot to mention, I also run a Customizeable Ship Store. Post what you need and we'll design a ship for you (complete with pictures, weaponry, etc.)

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=119314

Crimson Spartan President,

Wazzu is worried about your elevator project. If done incorrectly, a space elevator is less and elevator and more of a giant ball and chain ready to smash into Earth. We in Wazzu request that you consult with Slagkattunger in the making of a safe and effective elevator.

It gives me no pleasure to say it, but we also reserve the right to use all due force against the structure and your nation to prevent a cataclysm. Again, we request that you consult with the nation of Slagkattunger on safe elevator techniques.

-Dr. James Messer, Wazzu Minister of Diplomacy

Ooc:- Wazzu you better harrass him as much as you did me :wink: Crimson Sparta heres a link to my thread on my space eleveator, the first post has a minor error that is corrected on the 5th page I suggest look at the whole thing.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=82547

On a further note, I have evoled beyond using a space elevator.....but without it I would of never been able to leave the NS Earth for my new system.

At this point Padmasa cannot help, we will however soon be able to provide our allies with some tech, ships, and weaponry. At this point we are trying to finish a MAJOR project, but will soon enough have resources to spare and will turn to helping you.


(Major is defined as a super-cap ship that is about 10 km long, ect... more on that later as we are still finishing up it's stats.)

At this point Padmasa cannot help, we will however soon be able to provide our allies with some tech, ships, and weaponry. At this point we are trying to finish a MAJOR project, but will soon enough have resources to spare and will turn to helping you.


(Major is defined as a super-cap ship that is about 10 km long, ect... more on that later as we are still finishing up it's stats.)

Thank you all for your interests (whether they be technical or not wanting a cataclysmic asteroid-related end of the Earth).

Wazzu, thank you for your advice. Please know that we will do our best to ensure the safety of our nation and the planet as a whole. We do not wish to perish any more than you.

Slagkattunger, thank you for your technical information. We will model our elevator after yours as much as our technogy permits.

Padmasa, we know that you are working hard with your own space program, and we thank you for any help you can render.

Things were going well with the space elevator. Carefully following the guidelines of Slagkattunger, we have spotted the proper asteroid that we can use as a counterweight for the cable.

Our conventional space shuttle has located a rock of the proper size and mass that we will eventually attach the cable to. A mission three weeks from now will commence, and the astronauts will head out to the asteroid belt to check the giant rock out. If all goes well from there, another mission will be commissioned to go out and collect the asteroid (or other nations can bid for the transportation contract).

We have found the perfect place for the base of our elevator. It is located in the high mountains of Crimson Sparta, in a now recently-extinct volcano. Most of the drilling work can be sidestepped due to the crater of the volcano already being somewhat dug out, but we will dig down through the mountain and into the Earth's crust. The base will then be built into the mountain for extra weight.

This is also a good site because the mountains are located somewhat in the center of Crimson Sparta. We can put various radar and other enemy aircraft locators on the elevator that will hopefully help us extend our anti-air coverage across the entire nation.

[OOC: I'd love to bid, but I think I don't have the resources for hauling entire asteroids around yet.]

The Tunguska-class battleplate KHGV Jagged Razor of Methodical Dismemberment just arrived back in Sol system; the vessel could easily be tasked with transporting your asteroid with the gravitic effectors used in it's gravy guns, without incurring any cost to us beyond that of standard operations. We'd be happy to do it for free, as a gesture of good will.

The Tunguska-class battleplate KHGV Jagged Razor of Methodical Dismemberment just arrived back in Sol system; the vessel could easily be tasked with transporting your asteroid with the gravitic effectors used in it's gravy guns, without incurring any cost to us beyond that of standard operations. We'd be happy to do it for free, as a gesture of good will.

Kanuckistan, we would be greatly indebted to you if you would do us the favor of moving this afteroid into Earth's orbit for us. We will transmit the coordinates of where it should be placed following this message.

You have brought our program ahead of schedule in at least 5 years' time. For this, we can offer only our thanks, and the consolation that you will always have a friend in Crimson Sparta.

Well, there's not much else for a thirteen kilometer long fleet-killer to do during peace time but sit around looking intimidating; your rock should arrive in the perscribed orbit within the day, unless you want us to haul some multi-kilometer pebble, as there'd be some problems extending the SLDS field out that far.

They could still tow such a rock in on IDD drives, but it could take a few days; the gravy guns gravitic effectors weren't designed for fine control and large scale high-force exerction at the same time, and we wouldn't want to accidently crack your counter-weight.



If you wish to purchase spacecraft in the future, Kanuckistan's leading military contractor, Uniphase Armouries Interversal, has a state sanctioned international storefront here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=108895&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=); it's a bit limited, but they also do custum builds, so they should be able to fill your needs.

Thank you Kanuckistan for your offer. We are looking to enhance our programs beyond this though. If you have any information to offer on weapons or propulsion though, we would be grateful and willing to pay top dollar for any information on those subjects.

In other exciting news, our preliminary teams to the asteroid have found something wonderful! It appears that the surface contains a wealth of He-3. By heating the rocks and dust to about 700 degrees, we can capture the escaping gasses and use them towards a new fusion program. He-3 produces much less radiation than the hydrogen fusion process, which will help us a lot when we have to harness a power to propel us further in the skies.

This is truly a great day in Crimson Sparta, as our plans for the space elevator only require us to build a power plant that gives off more energy than it consumes. We may have some problems in that area, but we are certain that we can get it done on or before schedule. This fusion reactor will provide the power needed for the space elevator and more.

Thank you Kanuckistan for your offer. We are looking to enhance our programs beyond this though. If you have any information to offer on weapons or propulsion though, we would be grateful and willing to pay top dollar for any information on those subjects.


Our current drive and beam weapon technology is most likly somewhat beyond your current ability to sustainibly utalise or reproduce independently. We do, however, have extensive practicle experiance with electromagnetics, fusion, large- and small-scale lasers and general optics, and materials technologies.

Expanding on your own technologies, we belive we can offer you the key to sustainible comercialy-viable fusion in our high conversion-rate thermocouples, which are used to convert heat directly into electrical current for numerous civilian and military applications. With high-yeild fusion, comes the power for directed energy weapons, and sustainible high-thrust propulsion.

The He-3 reactors are currently being developed, and we now have the power to contain the massive amounts of heat generated from such a reaction. It seems that alloying magnesium, titanium, and unknown metals mined from the asteroid's surface are able to keep the heat of such a reaction in place. We still do not have a way to convert that heat into an efficient form of energy, but we are working on it.

The space elevator is progressing nicely. We have established a small colony on the asteroid, and we will begin construction of the station from that point. The construction crews are now living in the shuttle we landed on the rock, and they will finish building the permanant living quarters soon.

Supplies will be brought back and forth by many shuttle missions that we have planned to the asteriod. Once the permanant living quarters are finished, we will build the other base of the elevator. After the base is completed, we will transport up the necessary technology to begin the carbon nanotube string to the Earth base.

If you need any aid getting the supplies up Padmasa is willing to direct some of the ships we've had nearby for security to help. At this point there are 10 Harbingers, 3 Reapers, 1 meso-master, and 1 Black fortress nearby that can easily assist you.

Thank you Padmasa. We appreciate your assistance.

And with that help, we have established our permanant colony on the asteroid. Now that the construction crews are settled and living in spacious "astrocondos" with spectacular views of Earth, they have begun building the orbital fixture for our space elevator.

It is said that if you have a good pair of binoculars on the asteriod, you can see the base of the elevator on a clear day. We hope that soon there won't be a need for the binoculars, and that it can be seen by the naked eye.

Our fusion project is progressing, but not as quickly as we had hoped. It seems that containing that much energy is going to be the longest and hardest portion of this endeavour.

The carbon nanotube builders have tested successfully in vacuum chambers on Earth, building a cable at about 5 mi/h. At the 60,000 miles from the base to the asteroid fixture, it will take approximately 16.5 months for the tether to be complete. We will use that time to begin testing the maglev technology and to design future spaceships. We will also continue with our fusion generator research.

If any nations are willing to contract out scientists to help us with the current matter/heat/energy problem we are facing, we would be greatly appreciative and generous.

Shuttle Disaster on its way back from the asteroid. (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2692080)

New thread because of the importance of viewing.

Some information on Kanuckistani fusion technology, should you find it helpful.

The key to our reactor efficency is the use of high conversion-rate, high-temperature thermocouples placed just outside the plasma stream. The thermocouples themselves convert heat directly into electricity(OOC: and exist RL, just not nearly as good as the ones I use), and were a product of our advanced materials sciences several centuries back(OOC: I use the RL day=NS year formula, making my nation 404 years old NS time as of today). Aside from that, it's just the electromagneticly comtained and compressed fusion of a deuterium plasma.

In the event of an uncontroled containment failure, the thermocouples, as well as other internal hardware, often has to be replaced, but that's easy enough to do, and the physical containment vessel, composed of a highly insular reinforced ceramic, containes the plasma while it decompresses through vents who's seals physicly fail under the heat and pressure(these also have manual release mechanisms). The containment vessel itself is easily large enough that the plasma decompresses beyond the point it stops fusing even, at the highest reaction settings the reactor's hardware is physicly capible of producing.



Are you having dificulty creating a sufficently strong, yet stable magnetic containment field? Or is radiant heat coming off the plasma too much for your current materials?

We should be able to help, given sufficently detailed information.

Alternitivly, the Kanuckistani company Uniphase Armouries Interversal sells fusion reactors; they could provide you with a 5 megawatte research ractor for only ten million USD, tho there are a number of, shall we say, 'exotic' materials used in key areas, that you wouldn't be able to reproduce. UAI also sells thermocouples similar to those used in our civilian reactors, including the aforementioned one; these being one of the components to utalise 'exotic' material you couldn't reproduce on your own.

Kanuckistan, we are mainly having the problems of converting such high amounts of heat and energy into forms that we can store and use. Our biggest problem so far is that we don't have the capability to produce a power plant that gives off more energy than it takes in.


In other news, our space elevator is coming alont quite nicely. The air is getting thin and cold, and our construction crews have been forced to wear spacesuits due to the conditions above. The base is about 4 miles high now, so we still have a good ways to go.

Most of the base building crews are harnessed to their spots, and they all have parachutes of some sort. We have zepplins patrolling the area and watching for falling people opening their chutes. Even with our security precautions, 8 people have fallen to their deaths. When they finally hit the mountain, their bodies are unrecognizable. Thanks to the GPS locators we implanted in them we can pinpoint their exact position before smashnig into the cold and unforgiving mountains.

The shuttle missions have gone well so far since the Sarov accident. No other major incidents have been reported, and things are going well on the asteriod. The site there is coming along nicely too, and we are about to begin the deployment of the nanotube constructors in the next year.

Once that happens, the sites should meet up at the same time and we will have our space elevator.

We have decided to go with a MagLev. system to propel the elevator, which will greatly help us reduce the forces of friction within the Earth's atmosphere. We are drawing up plans for a ship that is compatible with the elevator systems, and one that can go beyond the conventional elevator.

Current technological advances: He-3 Fusion reaction, new extremely strong alloy from asteriod's surface, carbon nanotubes and constructors, physics advances, chemistry advances, no- or low-atmosphere construction capabilities, various tools to meet with the demands of this project.

Things are continuing to progress with our space program. While the elevator is being built, we have been busy figuring out designs of future spacecraft. We have a list of blueprints, but no statistics on length or crew size are available yet. We still have to do some double integration to find out how much area we'll have in our new spacecrafts.

The base is doing quite well. We've gained another 3 miles, but sadly lost another 5 people. This brings the total project death count to 26. The magnets are now being put into place, and all test runs have proven that the MagLev will be very effective. The installation of the magnets is taking place in all parts of the base, and the nanotubes will have the MagLev specifications as well.

Our scientists are working around the clock to determine what we will do with our space program as soon as the elevator is finished. We plan on mapping the solar system, Kuiper Belt, and the Oort Cloud. After that, we will hopefully move beyond the solar system and (hopefully with FTL tech) venture out into further regions of space.

Crimson Sparta, Kanuckistani industrial-grade thermocouples could convert the heat energy produced in your fusion reactors directly into electricity at efficencies as high as 90%. The mechanics are simple; the thermocouple, formed into an uninsulated wire and hooked up to an electrical circut, is exposed to the heat, but not physicly into contact with the plasma stream, and prefferibly outside the actual magnetic containment field; as it's heated, said heat is converted into electrical current in the circut. A reactor making extensive use of these can in practice have a heat-power conversion rate in excess of 90% after accounting for heat leakage, tho 65-80% is more the norm.

If you're still having issues with the air in the asteroid base, we can loan you a number of electro-chemical catalyst CO2/O2 reprocessors until your elevator comes online. RTG Fission cells can also be provided to give the extra power for heat and to run the ECC units, if needed; they use passive radio isotope decay, so there's no risk unless someone decides to take an anti-tank weapon to the armoured housing(basicly the same concept as the cells on NASA's deep interplanetary probes).

Kanuckistan, we are extremely interested in those thermocouples. We will purchase as many as we can, and pay your scientists nicely to explain the in-depth details of the machine to our scientists. Is is possible to use those reactors in spacefaring ships? And how much power would we need/how long would the reactor be sustainable? All information and technology will be paid for at any reasonable price you suggest.

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Our Space Elevator is progressing nicely. We are now 2 miles higher, bringing the grand total height of the base to 9 miles so far. We still have 30 more to go, but now that we are exiting the Troposphere, we expect our work to be more efficient. The weather patterns located in the Troposphere were a burden to our workers, as clouds of ice impeded work and visibility. Continuing to the top should be easier now, in the Stratosphere. It is warmer and less dense in this region, and productivity should increase. We expect to see fewer deaths in this atmospheric region.

The only problem lies in how to transport the materials. We have a main elevator shaft through the middle of the tower, for crew rotations and the like. The materials are not easily transported through them, and we have so far relied on airplanes and zepplins as our main supply. There have been proposals to begin using the base magnets and have a service elevator used that way. Our main fusion generators are only operating at 18% power, and we would not have enough power to operate the magnets in a 9 mile stretch yet. So we will have to rely on the 3,250 ft/min elevator which the crew uses. This will slow our progress slightly, but hopefully the efficiency of our new conditions will make up for it.

Kanuckistan, we are extremely interested in those thermocouples. We will purchase as many as we can, and pay your scientists nicely to explain the in-depth details of the machine to our scientists. Is is possible to use those reactors in spacefaring ships? And how much power would we need/how long would the reactor be sustainable? All information and technology will be paid for at any reasonable price you suggest.


There is no reason they couldn't be used in spacefaring ships, and endurance is rarely impacted by the thermocouples, so long as you don't loose containment and burn them out too often, or suffer power surges, as they'll have to be replaced when those occur.

To clarify, the thermocouples are simply a wire-like solid-state material that converts heat into electrical current. They are fairly cheap, and can be custum designed to alter thermal tollerances and modify the temperature/power output curve, although you would never be able to produce them with comparative efficencies or prices without a major revoloution in material sciences and applied quantum mechanics; unfortunatly, the implications of such expertise would have military aplications which forbid us from selling you the technology(not to mention the potentially devistating economic effects on existant companies within your nation).

As a technology demo, we've made arrangments to send you a one hundred meter sample of thermocouple wire of a specification commonly used in civilian hydrogen fusion applications, along with manuals detailing instalation, use, and operational paramiters and tollerances. It should be sufficent to generate several megawatts, and assess performance and future use. We sugest you not use it all at once, however, to allow for some exparimentation.

Remember, they should be placed close to the fusing plasma, but not within, and also outside of the plasma's magnetic containment field; either of these could destroy the thermocouple wire.

Again Kanuckistan, we cannot thank you enough. We will do many tests with the samples you have given us, and hope one day to be able to produce our own technology which will lead us into FTL capabilities.

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In other news, we have gained another 4.5 miles on the base tower. The conditions in the Stratsphere have made it easier for us to work, which have allowed us to work faster on our project. We only have 25.5 miles left of the tower to complete.

Things are getting dangerous though. With the absence of any aerial vehicles in this portion of the atmosphere, most of those who fall are not retriveable by our zepplins or other airplanes. Their parachutes are torn to shreds if a person falls too fast either. New parachute technology has been developed, and we have been able to save more men with new advanced nanofibers that reconstruct themselves if a tear int he chute is detected. There are also numerous safety chutes which open and slow the rate of descent every few miles.

We hope to incorporate this fiber technology into our ships to help them in the event that thir hulls are ripped by weapons or space debris. So far we haven't been able to incorporate this into the metals we will be using, as the metals are not fully understood by our scientists yet (the new elements we found on the asteriod). We shoud be able to develop this over the next few years.

Even with these advancements, another 3 people have died in the last year. That brings the total count to 30.

Things have been progressing nicely. With some energy matters that we have now fixed thanks to R&D brought about by Kanuckistan's help, we have been able to build better tools to help us.

We have a crude energy beam welding tool which we hope in a few years will translate into more power. Testing various crystals in the laser emitters will only allow us to refine the energy conversion, making more efficient lasers. This will soon lead to a laser weapon development project which we hope to work on extensively and implement in our future ship designs. The crystals found on the asteriod seem to provide the best diffraction of the beam, and all we have to do is work on the proper configuration. We are currently trying to replicate these crystals in a laboratory, and we should have a production program set up in a few years. If any nations have extensive research in dealing with laser/energy weapons, we will pay for any usable information.

Our Space Elevator is progressing too. With the crude laser welding techniques, we have been able to build another 4.5 miles. We should be building more and more each year, but we have to take into account the fact that materials transport is more involved the higher we go. With 21 miles left to go, progress should remain steady at about 4 miles/year due to the logistics/technology tradeoff.

No workers died in the past year. We are extremely proud of our men working above us.

Twelve years have past since we have started our project. The Space Elevator is due to be completed in another 8 years with the base being completed in another 5. Since the cable is being built from the asteriod, we can complete two projects at the same time. As a matter of fact, the tether is almost complete. We are keeping it rolled up for now as not to interfere unnecessarily with air or space travel now.

Total Project technological advances: He-3 Fusion reaction, new extremely strong alloy from asteriod's surface, carbon nanotubes and constructors, physics advances, chemistry advances, no- or low-atmosphere construction capabilities, various tools to meet with the demands of this project, thermocouples from Kanuckistan, advanced nuclear fusion, magnetic field research, strong electromagnets for propulsion, nanofibers for parachutes, nanotech metal concepts for future space design, crude laser weapons, knowledge of crystal formation and diffraction, limited light-photon technology in relation to lasers.

Things are going well, etc. etc. No time to update, but I am counting this as production time for the base. Details will come later.

If any nations have extensive research in dealing with laser/energy weapons, we will pay for any usable information.
We can supply information on both in-atmosphere and space-based directed energy weapons. If you can provide specifics of what you are looking for, perhaps we can arrange to send a team of engineers to assist in your own weapons development.

We have plenty of experiance regaurding so-called 'energy' weapons, and, for example, could arrange for domestic Kanuckistani companies to sell you high-precision focusing optics, lasing chambers, and volt-sink electron capasitors for high-end military-grade pulse-lasers, along with durible, high-precision fast-tracking gimbaled turrets for mounting them, and intigrated RADAR/LiDAR/Optical/IR sensors/target aquisition and tracking systems. We could alternativly see about selling you the technology for these systems, if you'd rather try producing your own instead of purchasing exceptionally high-quality systems from Kanuckistani military contractors, save volt-sinks, which could be substituted by a nearly as efficent electrolyte-based capasitor design.


We also have designs for a hybrid fusion rocket system utalising reactor plasma injected with a hydrogen propellent; it's fairly efficent and should be easy enough for you to impliment.


OOC:
Just to clarify, you can purchase thermocouples as-needed from Kanuckistani companies without RPing it from now on, but you've no hope of reverse-engineering from the samples provided; most of the materials used aren't even elements in the traditional sense.

To put it simply, you're going to need more money that 5 trillion dollars...

...especially when you're just starting out...

OOC: Um, I'm pretty sure that helium is a product of fusion, not a reactant.

To put it simply, you're going to need more money that 5 trillion dollars...

...especially when you're just starting out...

OOC: That was just our beginning budget. We've added some money to it, and plan on raising the budget another $10 billion soon.

OOC: Um, I'm pretty sure that helium is a product of fusion, not a reactant

http://www.finds-space.org/He3.2000.html

and http://www.thesteamboatlocal.com/arch/reg/dys/0322_dys.php explains that He3 is found in abundance on the moon, so it's very likely going to be on our asteriod as well.

OOC: I haven't had any time to update, but things are still going on with our development. A comprehensive update will come hopefully tomorrow, if I have time. But things are still going as planned.

OOC: I tried updating this last night, but my computer went haywire and a lot of writing went down the drain. I am very surprised I didn't throw my computer out the window.

IC: In the years that we have undergone the utmost secrecy for our projects, the base of our Space Elevator is almost complete! We only have 3 miles to go, and those should be complete within the next year. The next step is attaching the cable (which will be unraveled and set at the same time as the top piece of our base is done. It truly is a massive structure, and we have now set up warning beacons and air patrols around the tower. Our radar installations are almost done which will give us a great aerial picture of almost the entire country. A test run is planned for 15 months from now.

Our technology has progressed in leaps and bounds since our last international broadcast. Our scientists have managed to fully replicate the crystals we found on the asteroid. Due to their light and heat emitting capacities, we have refined our lasers into great weapons. Powered by miniature fusion packs contained by magnetic fields, these weapons have extremely long field usability. The technology allows for more of the power to go into the weapon part, with a reserve stored for backup power. We are currently beginning to mass produce rifles and handguns, as well as a special forces sniper rifle. Our entire armies will be outfitted with them, and our spaceships will carry a full complement of these, enough for every man.

We have also designed new uniforms for our ground troopers. All lower-level soldiers not on bridge duty will be required to wear the armor-alloy uniform. We have taken the metals from our asteroid and successfully made an extremely light but strong armor. The alloy incorporates one of our best technologies, equipped by nanotechnology. The nanotechs are activated by any abrasions or faults in the armor. Their instructions are to quickly mend and repair any problem immediately, to ensure that our soldiers are well protected. The nanotechs will take care of our soldiers when they are in the far reaches of the galaxy, beyond our supply stations.

Our forces will not be solely based on human soldiers. We are also planning on having robot forces to do our bidding. The technology on that is just developing, but studying the nanotechs that are interlaced in our suits has helped us. We shall have prototype pictures soon.

We are now working on new designs for our rudimentary ships. They will be small escorts and interceptors at first, and from there we will build a fleet of ships worthy of the name Crimson Sparta. Once our ships launch from the space elevator, we will begin exploring the solar system using limited propulsion and gravity to navigate. From there, we hope to develop our high speed FTL drives with information we gather in our travel of the solar system.

We have finished the base!

We have connected the cable!

Our space elevator is complete, with a project loss of 1,003 deaths and a cost of $15 trillion. Over a span of 25 years, we have vertically built a tower for propelling a spacecraft into space at speeds unprecedented by our previous program. We will use this elevator to transport ourselves to places on the moon and Mars, and possibly some other planets. We will explore the edge of the Solar System and report our findings back home.

Our next step is to propel a modified shuttle into space with our elevator, and power it with a fully fledged fusion reactor. We believe that by combining conventional propulsion, gravity, and the elevator launch speed, we can break all records for the fastest Spartan. That project should take place in the next year.

On board our shuttles will be a pilot crew, research crew, and security crew. Due to the shuttles' ventures further into unknown and possibly hostile territory, the shuttle crew (especially the security crew) will be trained in combat with their laser weapons.

Here is a picture of a security crewman. These are our general infantry units for our space fleet.
http://plaza.ufl.edu/bcav/soldiers/nco.jpg


While those crews are out on their exploratory missions, our engineering and mechanical teams will be at home preparing documents and blueprints for our next step-- small space and atmosphere capable fighters and bombers. We will need to draw up dimensions and weapons capabilities. If any nations would like to consult, we will pay handsomely. This initial phase of the project is budgeted for $500 billion.

The vehicle was loaded onto the launch platform. The crew emerged from the door in the side of the mountain and got into place. They all were armed with their laser sidearms, still in test phase with no designation. The rifles were already secure on the inside, locked in the armory of the ship. The countdown began.

10... 9... 8...

All stations in the base tower were monitoring their systems. There were 40 stations alltogether-- an administrative office, and one each mile. They were ordered to close their ventillation systems until the shuttle was clear of the base.

7... 6... 5...

All stations checked in and the final "go" was given by the launch team in the mission control tower, located atop the adjacent mountain looking over the launch pad. The power grid was called to full power and the fusion reactions started lighting up the magnetic panels.

4... 3... 2...

The controllers were watching out the window as much as they were watching their computers. The Crimson Spartan Space Exploration Force crewmen stared out the windows at the blue sky above them. All they could see was the open space and the tall tall base tower.

1.

The shuttle began moving slowly at first and quickly gained speed. This being a military crew, the shuttle accelerated faster than it would for a leisure trip. The crewmen all watched as they moved up the tower, finally into a place where they could se the stars. It was another few seconds until the announcement was made that they had left the tower. They were now riding alont a giant string of carbon pieced together by nanotechnology.

They were travelling at 1,250 m/s up the cord, the fastest speed ever achieved by a Spartan.

"Max speed achieved. Preparing for breakaway. Course set to intercept Mars. Breakaway in 3.. 2.. 1."

The pilot entered the code into the computer and pressed the release button. He pulled up on the yoke and the ship was on its way towards Mars. With a few minor course adjustments provided by the onboard reactor and thrusters, the trip should take about 22 hours.

OOC:

Distance to Mars: Minimum 56,000,000 km to Maximum 399,000,000 km

I think it would take a little longer than 22h to get to mars at 1.25 km/s ;) (heck, the Earth's escape velosity is 11.2 km/s)

OOC:

Distance to Mars: Minimum 56,000,000 km to Maximum 399,000,000 km

I think it would take a little longer than 22h to get to mars at 1.25 km/s ;) (heck, the Earth's escape velosity is 11.2 km/s)

Hmmm... it looks like I miscalculated. Maybe if I make that km/s?

The crew was rapidly approaching the red planet. Mars was the home to a lot of colonies and seemed to be bustling with activity. The ship planned on making a pass and using the gravity of the planet to slingshot further into the cosmos. They filed a flight path with Mars Space Control and were granted clearance.

The ship caught the gravity of Mars and fired its rockets when the right course was set. They were now flying at 1,500 km/s and on their way to the moons of Saturn and Jupiter.

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Meanwhile on the homefront, a new VTOL aircraft had just been greenlighted with a project budget of $ 3 trillion. It wasn't expected to cost that much, but Admiral Ogana would rather have too much money than too little. The computer trials had all run fine, and the ship, based similarly on the elevator vehicle, was scheduled for prototype production.

The model, independent of the elevator and base, would be smakker than the elevator craft and have its own propulsion systems. We are beginning to understand the physics behind high speed travel, and we are hoping that the current exploratory crews can help us a lot in that matter.

Our physicists have theorized that by utilizing "dark energy," a form of energy not affected by gravity, we may be able to fly at speeds far greater than the speed of light. We need to harness that energy in a fashion first, but our scientists have some interesting hypotheses.

"Crimson Sparta Space Command, come in," the radio squaked on the monitor station.

"Go ahead, we're reading you."

"We're appracing the Jovian moons now, checking in as scheduled."

"Roger that. Prepare your data feed for transmission."

The ship flew around the outer orbit of Jupiter. They made note of the different colonies present, and the hub of activity that seemed to be goind on around Io. They got a lot of video of the ships and mining efforts, all things they could use for future reference.

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The prototype of our first major VTOL space project has been released for public viewing. Although we aren't capable of flying it in space yet, we have done atmospheric test runs and everything is fine. We plan on limited testing in space soon, with long run test flights scheduled for next year.

Limited details have been released to the public. Here they are:

Archangel Class Shuttle

http://plaza.ufl.edu/bcav/spaceships/archangel2.jpg

Length: 38 ft.
Width: 20 ft.
Height: 12 ft.
Mass: 43,000 lbs
Crew: 3 (pilot, copilot, systems officer)
Capacity: 9 plus crew
Atmospheric Speed: Max. Mach 3 (appx. 2283 mph)
Non-atmospheric speed: Classified/untested

The Archangel is a small shuttlecraft designated for inter-solar system travel. It is used to shuttle diplomats to destinations such as the moon, Mars, the Jovian area, our space station, and throughout Earth.

The Archangel can also be used for exploratory missions within a system, but not too much further than that without help from a larger transport ship. This ship is planned to be the workhorse of our solar system exporation teams.

A different design will be used within our diplomatic corps though, with a more accomodating interior and full service by a flight crew.

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We have abandoned our theory on dark energy propulsion, and we are instead following a photon-based transportation method. Our scientists are extremely excited about this, and their findings should be released next year.

"Command, come in."

"This is Command, go ahead."

"Request permission to end mission and return to Earth."

"Permission granted. Proceed with landing."

The shuttle landed on the runway built into the mountains. Once it touched down the teams were hoisted from the ship and brought to their quarters for rest. After that, they would debrief their commanders and Lord Kentaka himself on the mission.

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Test flights for the Archangel have gone well in space. We are propelling them with fusion-powered rockets and thrusters. That allows them to achieve a top speed of 22,000 km/s for their trips.

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The government has made an official announcement that every civilian in Crimson Sparta is being moved to a new planet in the Pegasi system. It is the 4th planet in the system, comprised of about 90% water. We are leaving a limited governing infrastructure and our entire Earth-based military.

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In order to reach that destination, we have two interesting hypotheses. The first is one we would need some help with. It involves creating a wormhole between the two points, perhaps somewhere outside of the solar system.

First, collect a whole bunch of super-dense matter, such as matter from a neutron star, enough to construct a ring the size of the Earth’s orbit around the Sun. Then build another ring where you want the other end of your wormhole. Next, just charge them to some incredible voltage and spin both of them up to near the speed of light.

We have limited research on the subject, but proposals and small labratory tests have proven this to be an effective way to create a wormhole.

The second theory involves FTL travel and how to achieve it. We know that light travels at the speed of light. We also know that light is made up of packets of energy called photons, which travel at the speed of light. We have hypothesized that, if a ship was somehow enveloped in a large photon or a tightly knit group of photons, we could achieve the speed of light. Further research is required on the subject.

The second theory involves FTL travel and how to achieve it. We know that light travels at the speed of light. We also know that light is made up of packets of energy called photons, which travel at the speed of light. We have hypothesized that, if a ship was somehow enveloped in a large photon or a tightly knit group of photons, we could achieve the speed of light. Further research is required on the subject.

Err... that won't work.
Perhaps you should have paid more attention in physics class.

This has been a OOC post.

OOC: I did pay attention in physics, which is why I thought of the idea. I was even President of the school's Physics Honor Society. However I said that it was only a theory and that I'd need to look into it further.

IC: Our evidence has proven inconclusive with the grouping of photons in a single shape. Although their interactions could not help us with our propulsion system, we have learned that if we combine photons in a small enough compartment, we can enhance our laser weapons to be more accurate and more deadly.

We still are researching the use of photons in our propulsion systems. Our latest hypothesis is that photons can be sped up to more than the speed of light using "'down-converted' crystals to perform photon-pair timing measurements at the level of about a femtosecond." Photons have been clocked going through an optical barrier of multiple reflecting layers of transparent material. The materical acts as a destructive interference filter that selectively absorbs the photons of interest. Most of the photons are absorbed by the filter, but those that do not have been clocked at 1.5 femtoseconds, corresponding to a velocity of 1.7 times the speed of light.

If we can create this situation on our ships, we can expel the ejected photons out of the rear of the ship. When the photons are ejected, their mass will react as a counter to ours, propelling the ship fowards. We can continue this until we reach our desired speed.

Our test flights of the Archangel have all been completed successfully. We have taken it to the edge of the solar system using our space elevator platform, as well as having the ship rely on its own ion fusion engines. We have clocked the Archangel at vacuum speeds of 5,000 km/s. Although this is a good in-system speed, the craft is not recommended for use outside of the Oort cloud without a larger ship capable of ferrying it (not invented yet).

Now that the Archangel project is finished, we are researching the engine described previously, with the capability of thrusting photons in order to achieve FTL travel. We should have a breakthrough within the next year which will allow us to design new classes of ships based on that design.

Currently, the Archangel is being produced as a diplomatic transfer and short-range explorer. The full fleet should be in service by the end of the year.

Good day.

We have hundreds of trained space pilots/scientists/engineered here on Aenlosi for hire. They are fanatically dedicated, and a scientist will fight terrorists to the death with a wrench if you order him/her to.

Unfortunatly, our Holy Nation has not yet developed space capabilities. So, they are trained on VR stations, if you don't mind.

We can organize a student exchange program.

Good day.

We have hundreds of trained space pilots/scientists/engineered here on Aenlosi for hire. They are fanatically dedicated, and a scientist will fight terrorists to the death with a wrench if you order him/her to.

Unfortunatly, our Holy Nation has not yet developed space capabilities. So, they are trained on VR stations, if you don't mind.

We can organize a student exchange program.

Although our program is just starting up, we can train your pilots on our regular space shuttle fleet (which we will retire soon and could sell to you). We are also willing to train you on our space elevator system.

As we have just finished with our Archangel project and are beginning to produce them, we can set aside a few exploratory vessels to sell to you as well. They should prove useful in exploring and developing your own fleet.

There were three ships, with two of them being prototypes in design. The third resembled the Archangel Class, but there were significant modifications made to it to test out the new drive. They were all heading downwards and out of the solar system. Once they arrived at their starting point, the observation crews from other ships would start their monitoring.

The three ships were piloted by one or two men on each. It was a dangerous mission, and if there were any problem casualties would be kept to a minimum.

They reached the starting point. There was a station there that resembled the side of a building. Deployed by the shuttle that had taken it there, it was a 4-story observation tower, full of computers and monitoring stations. The project manager got on the microphone. "Gentlemen, start your engines."

Inside each of the ships' propulsion chambers, the process was beginning. The ships began to power up their engines and were already moving forward. As they accelerated, the serious part of the engines kicked in. In small chambers, photons began firing off a series of mirrors and through crystals and finally through the barrier. The ships suddenly disappeared from the observation tower, and only a small streak of light could be seen. The tower operators all cheered as they read the speed figures transmitted back from the ships. They were travelling at almost 1.7 times the speed of light, and accelerating.

The men on the ships couldn't believe what was going on. They were streaking past things like the whole universe was standing still. Their speed readouts were equally astonishing. The three ships were moving at 2.5 times the speed of light. At 3c, the men's orders were to disengage their engines and "coast" for a few minutes. When that process was over, they gradually slowed themselves by reversing engines until they could use their thrusters and come to a complete stop. They were now over 300 million km away from their original position after only a few minutes' travel.

They turned around and headed back.

OOC: Uh, light moves at like 300 KM/sec. You might want to up that speed a little.

And do you have FTL communications yet? Because if not, how are you going to give the ship the command to stop? :P

OOC: Uh, light moves at like 300 KM/sec.

OOC: Perhaps you mean 300,000 km/s?

Also, CS, would you still be needing ship designs?

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http://img24.photobucket.com/albums/v73/Jadeite/gregor.bmp (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=94575&highlight=)

I have plenty of warships, several civilian transports, and a military assault transport that would be useful in colonization, as it can hold almost 25,000 infantry. First time customers get a 10% discount, except on package fleets, because those already have a 10% discount from normal.

Although our program is just starting up, we can train your pilots on our regular space shuttle fleet (which we will retire soon and could sell to you). We are also willing to train you on our space elevator system.

As we have just finished with our Archangel project and are beginning to produce them, we can set aside a few exploratory vessels to sell to you as well. They should prove useful in exploring and developing your own fleet.

Thank you for your kindness.

If you wish, you can send some of your own students to participate on our World-Class Military Programs, as well as countless other programs covering the subjects of,
-Cooking
-Tailoring
-Server Administration
-Assasination
-Religon

Our standards are much higher than the standard standards, so you can ensure your students will only get the either a set of very useful skills, or a 'F'.

Aenlosi is sending out calls for willing students right now.

OOC: Uh, light moves at like 300 KM/sec. You might want to up that speed a little.

And do you have FTL communications yet? Because if not, how are you going to give the ship the command to stop? :P

OOC: We piggyback our signals on the photons we emit. Also, there are men inside the ships that were given mission orders on what to do.

http://img24.photobucket.com/albums/v73/Jadeite/gregor.bmp (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=94575&highlight=)

I have plenty of warships, several civilian transports, and a military assault transport that would be useful in colonization, as it can hold almost 25,000 infantry. First time customers get a 10% discount, except on package fleets, because those already have a 10% discount from normal.

You have a very nice store. We will take those ships into consideration, but we have a few designs already in mind.

OOC: I've just gotta sit down and do all the stats.

OOC:
Crimson? You overlooked one very important part regaurding the physics behind your FTL drive; the emmited particles may be moving FTL, but it's still a plain old reaction drive, meaning you only get as much force on the ship as the energy you put into the system is worth; you have the makings of an FTL comm system, but the matter making up the ship itself still has to obey the laws of physics.

I'm only bringing this up because of your claim to having a decent physics background.

Does it really matter? It's just an RP, for god's sake.

Our nation is currently developing its space program. Though we have only just launched a man into space, we are following your progress carefully. Any help from your nation towards advancing our space program would be welcome. Maybe we could lend you a few of our scientists to help your fusion problem.

OOC:
Crimson? You overlooked one very important part regaurding the physics behind your FTL drive; the emmited particles may be moving FTL, but it's still a plain old reaction drive, meaning you only get as much force on the ship as the energy you put into the system is worth; you have the makings of an FTL comm system, but the matter making up the ship itself still has to obey the laws of physics.

I'm only bringing this up because of your claim to having a decent physics background.

OOC: Maybe I'm mistaken, but this is how I figured things to be:

1. The fusion drives give off heat in the form of light
2. The light is made up of packets of energy called photons
3. We have developed a system that shoots that light (and therefore photons) around and through crystals, speeding them up and then forcing them through a barrier.
4. Those that make it through the barrier are traveling faster than the speed of light.
5. The photons are ejected out the back of the ship
6. Since they have mass, they act to move the ship in the opposite direction at an equal speed.

Here's where I read about the experiment (http://www.quantonics.com/Faster_Than_Light_-_Discover.html)

If I've made any mistakes with the figuring out of physics, let me know (as it has been quite some time since my last physics class).

If so, I'll make up something about changing the fabric of space to meld around my ships' engines. But I wanted this to be a semi-plausible thing that technically could happen one day.

OOC: Uh, light moves at like 300 KM/sec.

OOC: Perhaps you mean 300,000 km/s?

Also, CS, would you still be needing ship designs?
Err, yeah. My mistake, I was thinking in terms of thousands. :oops:

OOC:

Yeah, you made a pretty basic mistake; you fire something out of the back of the ship, and the ship doesn't go flying off at the same speed, but rather is imparted with kinetic energy equal to that of the object. If you're getting power from your fusion reactors, the force you can put into a ship's accelleration is, at most, limited to the maximum amount of energy you can juice from your reactors, subtracting from that energy lost to inefficencies. Basicly, you have two routes; imporve efficency and power production with new and better drives/reactors, which won't get you lightspeed, or try and bypass the known laws of physics, which is what pretty much all sci-fi FTL drives do(the exceptions being either really bad science to start with, or just never explained).

There're also the fact that your ship wouldn't jump to top speed instantly; it would spend time accellerating.

And I would like to take this opertunity to say that light is just fuckin' weird; I mean, it has both particle and wave properties, and when you slow it down, it gains inertia. Damn showoff.

OOC:

Yeah, you made a pretty basic mistake; you fire something out of the back of the ship, and the ship doesn't go flying off at the same speed, but rather is imparted with kinetic energy equal to that of the object. If you're getting power from your fusion reactors, the force you can put into a ship's accelleration is, at most, limited to the maximum amount of energy you can juice from your reactors, subtracting from that energy lost to inefficencies. Basicly, you have two routes; imporve efficency and power production with new and better drives/reactors, which won't get you lightspeed, or try and bypass the known laws of physics, which is what pretty much all sci-fi FTL drives do(the exceptions being either really bad science to start with, or just never explained).

There're also the fact that your ship wouldn't jump to top speed instantly; it would spend time accellerating.

And I would like to take this opertunity to say that light is just f---' weird; I mean, it has both particle and wave properties, and when you slow it down, it gains inertia. Damn showoff.

OOC: Ok, I'll scrap the project.

Time/Space folding, here I come!

IC: In actuality, the computer systems all went crazy. Every single feature of the drive malfunctioned. When the pilots turned their ships around, they found that they could see their starting point only a few kilometers away.

The people in the contol room couldn't believe what they saw. It was horrible. The ships disappeared only because of the gigantic cloud of smoke produced by the ships. Now that it cleared, they too could see that nobody had gotten very far.

The mission controller, feeling that his team was responsible, released the airlock. Everybody in the observation tower flew out into space and floated away, cold and dead.

After going back to the drawing board and shielding the project in secrecy (ooc: hence my not posting in a few days), we are ready to try another project in FTL propulsion. The drives work on the (imaginary) concept that bends the fabric of space to our liking. We can move the ship at speeds well faster than light with a relatively small loss in efficiency. The engines work on the principles of reactions at the subatomic level that open up a hole in the space that we know of, into another dimension that travels parallel with our universe, but in speeds measured in light years, not km/h.

We have refitted a test ship with an experimental version of the drive. We exect to test it later this year.

After many years of secrecy and heavily-guarded projects, we have begun mass production of our new small fighters. With our FTL-capable drives, these fighters will be used for all conflicts that require a small presence. They will usually travel in packs.

Due to the shroud still covering these ships, they will not be introduced until we see a reason to need them.

Time/Space folding, here I come!


As my nation has gotten subspace folding down to an art, I must ask that you think of two things.

1. The ENORMOUS amount of energy it needs to complete such a thing, and how your ships generate the energy needed.

2. The fact that your ship's computers need to be so out-of-this-would sophisticated to insure that everything goes right.

I also hope that you have a general idea of how the process "works" before you use it.

Time/Space folding, here I come!


As my nation has gotten subspace folding down to an art, I must ask that you think of two things.

1. The ENORMOUS amount of energy it needs to complete such a thing, and how your ships generate the energy needed.

2. The fact that your ship's computers need to be so out-of-this-would sophisticated to insure that everything goes right.

I also hope that you have a general idea of how the process "works" before you use it.

Time/Space folding, here I come!


As my nation has gotten subspace folding down to an art, I must ask that you think of two things.

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OOC:

Please remember that there are countless ways to impliment FTL systems, and things like folding spacetime; systems that are absurdly simple and requior little power are perfectly possible in sci-fi.

But I agree; you should have a good idea regaurding how it works befor you use it.

systems that are absurdly simple and requior little power are perfectly possible in sci-fi.

Perhaps...but not in quality RP

systems that are absurdly simple and requior little power are perfectly possible in sci-fi.

Perhaps...but not in quality RP

Bull; I can design FTL drives that don't requior massive amounts of power or epicly powerful computers. Hell, I've put a basic FTL on some of my fighters, as my tech dynamic allows it; it's just uncommon because my fighters are unmanned and designed to be cheap and fairly expendible, and even my basic FTL drives don't fit that description.

Your sci-fi tech has nothing to do with RP 'quality'; how it applied affects ballance, which is important, but beyond advantage/disadvantage/cost dynamics there is no connection. Period.

You misunderstood me. I was talking more RP than tech.

With good RP, you want to give yourself limitations in order for the opponent or whatever to have a chance. Not doing so is called Godmodding. "Absurdly simple systems that requior little power" are not realistic, even in the sense of space tech.

You misunderstood me. I was talking more RP than tech.

With good RP, you want to give yourself limitations in order for the opponent or whatever to have a chance. Not doing so is called Godmodding. "Absurdly simple systems that requior little power" are not realistic, even in the sense of space tech.

Has it not occured to you that there are ways to more than adiquatly ballance such things? Jump inacuracy, post-jump recalibration, high suseptibility to damage, inability to jump close to gravity wells, inability to jump anywhere except close to gravity wells, etc, add infinitum.

OOC: Thank you, gentlemen, for this enlightening debate. I must admit, I've gotten lazy with researching FTL drives and I will probably use a matter-antimatter system like Star Trek. Why use such an idea, you ask? Because I can BS my way through how it works. And if not, there are millions of Star Trek pages where I can look stuff up if I want. I also found a few good ship fan art on some Star Trek pages.

That being said, the time/space folding comment was just a way of saying that I am abandoning trying to do what the greatest physicists can't do, which is try to develop a workable theory of FTL travel. I don't personally like the folding space idea that much, so I'm not going to use it.

But please keep commenting if you find something wrong or impossible about one of my designs. I have ideas on ships, but I have to figure out their size and weapon capabilities. If anybody knows anything about space weapons, or you have really cool designs that I can buy/use, please let me know. I don't know what a lot of other people have, so I don't know what I'm up against. I will be grateful for any help in the ship weapon department.

being said, the time/space folding comment was just a way of saying that I am abandoning trying to do what the greatest physicists can't do, which is try to develop a workable theory of FTL travel.
OOC: What do you mean, "the greatest physicists can't" do it? Miguel Alcubierre managed it just fine. What he didn't manage was figuring out how to generate the required type of energy.

If anybody knows anything about space weapons, or you have really cool designs that I can buy/use, please let me know.

It's my suggestion that rather than using pulsed cannons, which are slow and really quite dumb, you use a powerful laser cannon system. Our ships utilize as our main weapon Gravitic Neutron Cannons. You can take a look at the first post in this thread (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=76979&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0) to get information on what the Gravitic Neutron Cannon does. I find this kind of weapon to be immensely more powerful than any pulse cannon. If you would like to purchase the designs for the Slicer Beam, we can negotiate ICly. If not, I hope I was of assistance.

Does it really matter? It's just an RP, for god's sake.

Unless the role you're playing is that of a god-like being, it does matter. RP stands for Role Play, for god's sake. :roll:

screw FTL travle. I just use Jump Nodes.

As for weapons, I use:

Orcalic Lasers (soon to be Orcalic Phasers): Not really a laser, but it's a steady beam of energy from a rare metal (except for anchent atlantian space, and modern atlantian space) with strange electromagnetic properies called Orcalic.

Plasma Cannons: just your normal heavy dudy plasma weapon

Ion blasts: can be used to distablize sheilds more easly.

Defences:

Sheilds: bought them from Kelnor.

Ablative armor: created it ourselves. It can absorb the energy of an incoming attack, and block Missles that the sheilds can't block

The Rebel leader of Tsunaan Liberation Party which is Prohibited in Tsunaan sends a Distorted radio message: "We are willing to make the parts for ur space ship at a cheap and cheerful 2 billion in your currency and a Spaceship which could be used to exile the emporer of Tsunaan to space and seal him in cryogenics while we liberate our ppl from him and his cronies we have factories prepared,you are our only hope...." *END TRANSMISSION*

and block Missles that the sheilds can't block

It's unfortunate that you shields are so weak...unless you're talking about after they have already failed

and block Missles that the sheilds can't block

It's unfortunate that you shields are so weak...unless you're talking about after they have already failed

It's based off freespace. My sheilds can only block energy weapons. The missles bounce harmlessly off the Ablative Armor.

AO, ablative armor, by definition, works by sacrificing itself to disipate the energy of an attack, wearing away under enemy fire. If your armour doesn't do this, it's not ablative armour.

And missiles don't bounce; they'd blow up, or if the detonator was defective, crumple against your hull, then maybe blow up :wink:

OOC: Hmm... it seems that I'm very out of my league when it comes to space weapons. How about somebody sells me weapons and armor/shields with info on what they do and how they work, and we treat it as a contracting job for lots of money?

Get yourself a couple of big naval guns. Rig them with nuclear warheads for shells, and you've got a nice little weapon.

Mass drivers can make good weapons, too. And if you build it properly, you don't need specialized ammunition; you can just fling whatever metallic junk comes your way.

My space ships use interstellar hydragen atoms as fuel- Magnetic ramscoops collect them and they are used in a reactor. If someone has suggested this, exuse me I have not read all 84 pages. Contact me via telegram, I do spaceships and weapons.

RSS Nova, pride o' the fleet
http://www.sfc3files.com/screenshots/17/files2/13851_2.jpg

Been offline for a few days, but thought you might be interested in a new armour I've come up with.

I can also provide you with fairly realistic weapons; specifics depend greatly on how much power your reactors can spare, so I can scale apropriatly(a 20 terajoule pulse laser is a fairly mean weapon, for example, but if it takes three days to charge a single shot...)