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Ando Prime
Type: Ice-bound Terrestrial
Temperature: Frigid
Atmosphere: Type I (breathable)
Hydrosphere: Dry
Gravity: Standard (Earth: 1.0; Ando Prime: 1.0)
Terrain: Ice plains, glaciers, mountains and ice grottoes
Length of Day: 25 Standard (Earth) hours
Length of Year: 335 local days
Species: Andoni monks, humans, others, unknown
Starport: Limited services
Population: 750,000 (approx.)
Planet Function: Religious haven, mining colony
http://www.starwars-rpg.net/journal/archive/2000-10/andoprime.jpg

The people are of ViZionarian decent, though they are far from "normal" ViZionarians, as this planet was settled long ago. The population is very small, being 750,000, and for reasons we do not know, it does not grow very quickly at all. Growth rated is .01%/year.

We are not sure if the people are willing to change nations, or if they will be sent to another place. We will cross that bridge when we get to it.

Our going price is $400 billion USD. This planet is quite cold, but very livable, as our people have shown (just make sure you have power for heating, and dress warmly... ;-)) This planets resources are nearly untapped. Mining is the only major resource we have yet tapped, and barely any at that. The planet has much water. The planet makes for great tourism for those who like ice and snow sports, which is very popular with many people. The planet is also a prime place for massive military bases, housing, and places to stop, get food, and refuel.

The return on your investment will come within the first five (NS) years.

Interesting. What sort of payment plan are you prepared to offer?

And you really ought to arrange for something bfore you put all the land up for sale. Besides, if you sell it to me, I'm prety sure it's a slam dunk that they'd leave.

Interesting. What sort of payment plan are you prepared to offer?

And you really ought to arrange for something bfore you put all the land up for sale. Besides, if you sell it to me, I'm prety sure it's a slam dunk that they'd leave.

We will take wired or cash, upfront. As for the people, we leave the buying nation to deal with them, as they do not believe them selves to be part of us. They do not know much about you, or anyone else, even us, as they are very... primative.

Interesting. What sort of payment plan are you prepared to offer?

And you really ought to arrange for something bfore you put all the land up for sale. Besides, if you sell it to me, I'm prety sure it's a slam dunk that they'd leave.

We will take wired or cash, upfront. As for the people, we leave the buying nation to deal with them, as they do not believe them selves to be part of us. They do not know much about you, or anyone else, even us, as they are very... primative.

Interesting. What sort of payment plan are you prepared to offer?

And you really ought to arrange for something bfore you put all the land up for sale. Besides, if you sell it to me, I'm prety sure it's a slam dunk that they'd leave.

We will take wired or cash, upfront. As for the people, we leave the buying nation to deal with them, as they do not believe them selves to be part of us. They do not know much about you, or anyone else, even us, as they are very... primative.

Interesting. What sort of payment plan are you prepared to offer?

And you really ought to arrange for something bfore you put all the land up for sale. Besides, if you sell it to me, I'm prety sure it's a slam dunk that they'd leave.

We will take wired or cash, upfront. As for the people, we leave the buying nation to deal with them, as they do not believe them selves to be part of us. They do not know much about you, or anyone else, even us, as they are very... primative.

Forget it. I dont have $400 billion USD just floating around at the moment. If you want to sell this, I suggest you segement the payments. Asking for all of it up front is like asking a bum to buy out Microsoft with the change in his pocket. Idiots.

--Foreign Minister Jay Reaven

After much consideration, the Foe Hammer Naval Forces would like to purchase this planet. We will wire $400 billion upon confirmation.

After much consideration, the Foe Hammer Naval Forces would like to purchase this planet. We will wire $400 billion upon confirmation.

Interesting. What sort of payment plan are you prepared to offer?

And you really ought to arrange for something bfore you put all the land up for sale. Besides, if you sell it to me, I'm prety sure it's a slam dunk that they'd leave.

We will take wired or cash, upfront. As for the people, we leave the buying nation to deal with them, as they do not believe them selves to be part of us. They do not know much about you, or anyone else, even us, as they are very... primative.

Forget it. I dont have $400 billion USD just floating around at the moment. If you want to sell this, I suggest you segement the payments. Asking for all of it up front is like asking a bum to buy out Microsoft with the change in his pocket. Idiots.

--Foreign Minister Jay Reaven

After I, Chiefy, consulted the Government over this, we are willing to take payment. A minimum of $40 billion per (NS) year over the next (10) NS years.

No money is refundable, though we do not believe there should be any problems. If worked correctly, this planet should be a very strong investment after the first five years.

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After much consideration, the Foe Hammer Naval Forces would like to purchase this planet. We will wire $400 billion upon confirmation.
*cough*

After much consideration, the Foe Hammer Naval Forces would like to purchase this planet. We will wire $400 billion upon confirmation.
*cough* OOC: Damn, been missing so many posts lately.

IC: Foe Hammer, we accept. Once wired, you will officially own Ando Prime. Thank you for your purchase!

Money has been wired from our military budget. Thank you.

Money has been wired from our military budget. Thank you. And thank you. If you have any trouble with the people on the planet, let us know. As of now, unless you or they say otherwise, they are of your property. They refuse to be part of ViZion. We hope you have better luck in dealing with these primative people who derived from ViZion.

Good luck with your new planet!

[ooc: *rolls his eyes*

time for a rant:


Look, this payment plan is wildly beyond the capacty of ANY nation in NS earth to pay. You could buy the planet, maybe, but paying 40 billion USD PER YEAR will cripple your budget.

I encourage Foe Hammer to RP this properly. Buying the planet at this price would have to mean a taking a substantial economic hit.

What kind of resources are there? I mean specific elements. Could we get trading rights for our freighters? (LRR freighters are mostly converted outdated combat ships, save ore haulers which are their own design.)

[response to rant]
Foe Hammer's Military Budget: $10,176,000,000,000
Percentage of budget to Space forces: 60%
Space Force Budget: $6,105,600,000,000Percentage of budget for maintainance: 70%
Amount remaining for purchasing: $1,831,680,000,000
Number of years Foe Hammer's gone without buying anything: 32
Total: $58,613,760,000,000
[/response to rant]

You would clearly see that it's not that much of an economic hit, if you actually bothered to calculate all that.

What kind of resources are there? I mean specific elements. Could we get trading rights for our freighters? (LRR freighters are mostly converted outdated combat ships, save ore haulers which are their own design.) You'll have to talk to FH about trade, and any future things found.. we only know this: There is TONS of ice and water, along with gold, stone, etc (from what we know, nearly 50% of the planets surface is minable upto 5 miles deep) There is also abondant aquatic life. We have yet to explore 85% of the planet under the ice and snow; and 48% of the planets surface has not been physicly explored yet.

What kind of resources are there? I mean specific elements. Could we get trading rights for our freighters? (LRR freighters are mostly converted outdated combat ships, save ore haulers which are their own design.) You'll have to talk to FH about trade, and any future things found.. we only know this: There is TONS of ice and water, along with gold, stone, etc (from what we know, nearly 50% of the planets surface is minable upto 5 miles deep) There is also abondant aquatic life. We have yet to explore 85% of the planet under the ice and snow; and 48% of the planets surface has not been physicly explored yet.

We are not so much concerned about mining it as we are about shipping what they mine. But anyway, Foe Hammer, would you give the thumbs up to LRR trade with your newly-aquired planet?

[response to rant]
Foe Hammer's Military Budget: $10,176,000,000,000
Percentage of budget to Space forces: 60%
Space Force Budget: $6,105,600,000,000Percentage of budget for maintainance: 70%
Amount remaining for purchasing: $1,831,680,000,000
Number of years Foe Hammer's gone without buying anything: 32
Total: $58,613,760,000,000
[/response to rant]

You would clearly see that it's not that much of an economic hit, if you actually bothered to calculate all that.

Bullshit. If you spend 60% of your budget on your military, your economy is already shit. YOu should not be able to buy this, by all rights. I, for one, will be ognoring this transaction since its completely ridiculous. I urge other nations to do the same.

Yes, we will allow you to trade. But all mining will be done by Foe Hammer, as this planet will become a massive Shipyard and Naval Base for the Armada.

Ok. Could the LRR fleet stop by for repairs once and a while?

[ooc: *rolls his eyes*

time for a rant:


Look, this payment plan is wildly beyond the capacty of ANY nation in NS earth to pay. You could buy the planet, maybe, but paying 40 billion USD PER YEAR will cripple your budget.

I encourage Foe Hammer to RP this properly. Buying the planet at this price would have to mean a taking a substantial economic hit.



Foe Hammer RP well? now where did you get the idea that that was possible

Melkor, shut up, you overdramatic twit.

Perhaps I should specify for those who are slower than others... *cough*Melkor*cough*
I use 60% of my MILITARY budget on my Space Forces. Shit, if I used 60% of my GDP, I'd freaking ignore MYSELF.

[ooc: *rolls his eyes*

time for a rant:


Look, this payment plan is wildly beyond the capacty of ANY nation in NS earth to pay. You could buy the planet, maybe, but paying 40 billion USD PER YEAR will cripple your budget.

I encourage Foe Hammer to RP this properly. Buying the planet at this price would have to mean a taking a substantial economic hit.



Foe Hammer RP well? now where did you get the idea that that was possible

Shaddup, you waste of perfectly useful flesh.

Obviously your awareness of my changes are about as high as your IQ :P

Now, are we finished with the Flamefest?

[ooc: *rolls his eyes*

time for a rant:


Look, this payment plan is wildly beyond the capacty of ANY nation in NS earth to pay. You could buy the planet, maybe, but paying 40 billion USD PER YEAR will cripple your budget.

I encourage Foe Hammer to RP this properly. Buying the planet at this price would have to mean a taking a substantial economic hit.



I think we are... And, yes, I still uphold the transaction and sale. Good luck Foe Hammer!
Foe Hammer RP well? now where did you get the idea that that was possible

Shaddup, you waste of perfectly useful flesh.

Obviously your awareness of my changes are about as high as your IQ :P

Now, are we finished with the Flamefest?

Ehh, I think you typed in the quote.

Ehh, I think you typed in the quote. Hmm... strange... oh well

Hey, I was merely commenting on the ridiculousness of all thid. If you want to call me names, that's fine.

But it doesnt change the fact that I'll be ignoring you now. Have a nice life.

For what reason? Surely you're not ignoring me because I proved you wrong.

For what reason? Surely you're not ignoring me because I proved you wrong.

Hardly. You didnt prove me wrong nor did you provide a reasonable explanation as to why you have $400 billion USD floating around.

But nonehteless, I will abstain from this flame war in progress and leave the NS community to come to their own conclusions.

For what reason? Surely you're not ignoring me because I proved you wrong.

Hardly. You didnt prove me wrong nor did you provide a reasonable explanation as to why you have $400 billion USD floating around.

But nonehteless, I will abstain from this flame war in progress and leave the NS community to come to their own conclusions.

occ:- Heh he could of have had in a bank account earning interest :wink: Personnelly I will not comment on whether it is possible or not & leave it at that.

For what reason? Surely you're not ignoring me because I proved you wrong.

Hardly. You didnt prove me wrong nor did you provide a reasonable explanation as to why you have $400 billion USD floating around.

But nonehteless, I will abstain from this flame war in progress and leave the NS community to come to their own conclusions.

*cough cough*
Amount remaining for purchasing: $1,831,680,000,000
Number of years Foe Hammer's gone without buying anything: 32
Total: $58,613,760,000,000

FH, I think you're missing the point.

If you want to use this planet and so forth, go right on ahead. Your persistence in trying to prove me wrong suggests one of two things:

1) you don't want me to ignore you
or
2) You want to prove yourself right to the gratification of yourself and your friends.

You'll note I also said you had failed to provide a "reasonable" reason why you can pay $400B USD up front for a freaking Planet. Those numbers mean nothing to me. I dont know where they came from, and for all I know, you just made it all up. And whats this "32 years without buying anything" nonsense? Is this referring to the purchase of planets or just equipment in general?

If its the latter, than it means you have a bunch of 32-year old guns, grenades, airplanes, and so forth. Not good. Besides, your munbers assume that your government never has to dip into the funds to pay for other ventures--a very common practice. If you had this fund sitting around doing nothing for 32 years, I doubt your politicians would have the strength of will to not just run off with wads and wads of cash.

You can come up with numbers from GDP calculators and such, but I guarantee you that in reality, they will always be lower than the stated number, for one reason or another. Unless you do a lot of looting
:D

At any rate, if you are going through this whole charade in attempt to get me to unignore you, it's not working. If that's your intended purpose, the only way to do it is heavily modify the way you buy/sell things. But I'm more than certain I'll find that you're arguing with me more for the second reason than the first.

FH, I think you're missing the point.

If you want to use this planet and so forth, go right on ahead. Your persistence in trying to prove me wrong suggests one of two things:

1) you don't want me to ignore you
or
2) You want to prove yourself right to the gratification of yourself and your friends.

You'll note I also said you had failed to provide a "reasonable" reason why you can pay $400B USD up front for a freaking Planet. Those numbers mean nothing to me. I dont know where they came from, and for all I know, you just made it all up. And whats this "32 years without buying anything" nonsense? Is this referring to the purchase of planets or just equipment in general?

If its the latter, than it means you have a bunch of 32-year old guns, grenades, airplanes, and so forth. Not good. Besides, your munbers assume that your government never has to dip into the funds to pay for other ventures--a very common practice. If you had this fund sitting around doing nothing for 32 years, I doubt your politicians would have the strength of will to not just run off with wads and wads of cash.

You can come up with numbers from GDP calculators and such, but I guarantee you that in reality, they will always be lower than the stated number, for one reason or another. Unless you do a lot of looting
:D

At any rate, if you are going through this whole charade in attempt to get me to unignore you, it's not working. If that's your intended purpose, the only way to do it is heavily modify the way you buy/sell things. But I'm more than certain I'll find that you're arguing with me more for the second reason than the first.
32 years of not buying equipment. SPACE equipment, such as Space Vessels. And how do you all of a sudden know that that period of time is stated in consecutive years? Foe Hammer upgrades our space equipment once every four years. So, that would be 8 upgrade cycles total, or 8 years of upgrading since we've started saving up, which means about 40 years has elapsed without the purchase of new space vessels, until very recently (A day or two ago, we announced a new vessel type).

And my reasonable explaination, you ask? Simple. Let's say you want to buy a gold watch that retails for around $4,000 dollars. Let's say you make an average of $400 a week. Once you collect your paycheck, you pay off your bills (Water, heating, gas, food) and you are left with around $150. You put your $150 in a checking account. After about 26 weeks or so, you've successfully saved up around $4,000. You obviously have enough money to pay for the watch up front with a check, so WHY THE HELL would you go into the store every week or two and pay with multiple checks, when you can just write one check and get it over with? That is exactly what we're dealing with here, except on a much, much larger scale.

And now, having achieved step #2, I shall end the argument with a friendly little reminder -
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