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EDIT: With the lease to ViZion made official, Slagkattunger is willing to talk to other nations about leasing parts of the moon, Blaues Auge. You may make offers and speak to them now.

Slagkattunger is only allowing parts of moons, or their orbit, to be leased. Ask them any questions!

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Lady Jade Purrlinda
Ambassador to NS Earth
The Star Kingdom of Slagkattungerhttp://www.nationstates.net/images/un_member.gif
Politics is war without bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed.
Email:- Slagkattunger@hotmail.com
My Nations GDP (http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=Slagkattunger)
Slagkattunger Fact File (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=110740)

"Before we start this process here is a complete fact file on the moon Blaues Auge, this is to make sure you understand what you are leasing."

Blaues Auge:-
Temperature: - Cool
Atmosphere: - Type 2 (Low Oxygen, Own oxygen supply recommended for long periods.)
Hydrosphere: - Moist
Gravity: - 0.7 Standard
Terrain: - Glacier, Mountains, Plains, oceans
Length of Day: - 23.4 hours
Time to Orbit Around Slagkattunger: - 34 Slagkattunger days
Notes
This is a water covered moon with all surface land mass consisting of Islands ranging from 100 km in diameter to small peaks of land mass with reefs. There is primative plant life on these Islands but no animal life more advanced than insects living on these, also with the exception of Islands near the equator the majority of these Islands are covered with Glaciers for the majority of the moons year. The surface temperature rarly exceeds 10 C except at the equator where it reaches 20 C in summer.

Underwater is a different story, there is plenty of aquatic plant & animal life and underwater volcanos keep the water temperature up and provide warm currents across the moon. Around these active volcanoes are high deposits of minerals like gold, silver, iron and colbat among other things. Although these areas are highly unstable as the result of the constant earthquake caused by the volcanoes.

"As you can see the best region to take up a lease is one of the 100 km in diameter Islands at the Equator of the moon."

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Lady Jade Purrlinda
Ambassador to NS Earth
The Star Kingdom of Slagkattungerhttp://www.nationstates.net/images/un_member.gif
Politics is war without bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed.
Email:- Slagkattunger@hotmail.com
My Nations GDP (http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=Slagkattunger)
Slagkattunger Fact File (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=110740)

"Before we start this process here is a complete fact file on the moon Blaues Auge, this is to make sure you understand what you are leasing."

Blaues Auge:-
Temperature: - Cool
Atmosphere: - Type 2 (Low Oxygen, Own oxygen supply recommended for long periods.)
Hydrosphere: - Moist
Gravity: - 0.7 Standard
Terrain: - Glacier, Mountains, Plains, oceans
Length of Day: - 23.4 hours
Time to Orbit Around Slagkattunger: - 34 Slagkattunger days
Notes
This is a water covered moon with all surface land mass consisting of Islands ranging from 100 km in diameter to small peaks of land mass with reefs. There is primative plant life on these Islands but no animal life more advanced than insects living on these, also with the exception of Islands near the equator the majority of these Islands are covered with Glaciers for the majority of the moons year. The surface temperature rarly exceeds 10 C except at the equator where it reaches 20 C in summer.

Underwater is a different story, there is plenty of aquatic plant & animal life and underwater volcanos keep the water temperature up and provide warm currents across the moon. Around these active volcanoes are high deposits of minerals like gold, silver, iron and colbat among other things. Although these areas are highly unstable as the result of the constant earthquake caused by the volcanoes.

"As you can see the best region to take up a lease is one of the 100 km in diameter Islands at the Equator of the moon."

"Lady Jade Purrlinda, how much would this area cost in USD?"

"Well lets see what you consider a fair amount then go from there hmmmmm, don't forget it's for a 200 NS Earth years term. Also the Queens government has asked me to inquire on a more formal state of intention outlining what you plan to do with it once you aquire it. For while my Queen may be ruler of this nation, she still has to get approval from the people for certain things. Unfortunately this happens to be one as we are dealing with my peoples moon, hopefully we can push it through the government without to much delay."

"Well lets see what you consider a fair amount then go from there hmmmmm, don't forget it's for a 200 NS Earth years term. Also the Queens government has asked me to inquire on a more formal state of intention outlining what you plan to do with it once you aquire it. For while my Queen may be ruler of this nation, she still has to get approval from the people for certain things. Unfortunately this happens to be one as we are dealing with my peoples moon, hopefully we can push it through the government without to much delay."

"Well, I would say for starting, we will offer $10 million USD. Our intentions are for research and more land for living on. The environment sounds very good. We shall not destroy it with industry. Also, if you require, we will build a base for protection of the moon and your planet."

"Well lets see what you consider a fair amount then go from there hmmmmm, don't forget it's for a 200 NS Earth years term. Also the Queens government has asked me to inquire on a more formal state of intention outlining what you plan to do with it once you aquire it. For while my Queen may be ruler of this nation, she still has to get approval from the people for certain things. Unfortunately this happens to be one as we are dealing with my peoples moon, hopefully we can push it through the government without to much delay."

"Well, I would say for starting, we will offer $10 million USD. Our intentions are for research and more land for living on. The environment sounds very good. We shall not destroy it with industry. Also, if you require, we will build a base for protection of the moon and your planet."

"Might I also add, we may look into an under-water resort of some kind, along with under-water housing."

we will offer $10 million USD
"Is that $10 million for the whole period or $10 million a year for the entire 200 year lease? If it's the first one then it won't be considered, the other one would be considered. Also we will ask for a bond consisting of 10% of the lease on top of the payment of said lease."
We shall not destroy it with industry
"This is qood as we are dedicated to preserving the environment as much as possible, we will monitor any development on the moon if the lease is granted and should you fail to keep it clean you will be asked to leave forfieting the bond payed."
research and more land for living on. we may look into an under-water resort of some kind, along with under-water housing
"May we ask what type of research you intend to do? as for living & housing that will be fine so long as you realise that should the lease not be extended you will be required to leave."
occ:- Unlikely to happen unless you really screw up your relationship with the government.
Also, if you require, we will build a base for protection of the moon and your planet."
"Could you elaborate on this please as to the size of said base should it be built & what it would house? Does this include a space station above your desired location for the docking of starships?"

ooc:- gotta go for today.might be back later today, if not I will be back tommorrow.

ooc:- gotta go for today.might be back later today, if not I will be back tommorrow. OOC: alright

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ooc:- The balls in your court you know :wink: I can't do anything until you answer the questions she raised.

OOC: Opps! Sorry, didn't see the post!


"Is that $10 million for the whole period or $10 million a year for the entire 200 year lease? If it's the first one then it won't be considered, the other one would be considered. Also we will ask for a bond consisting of 10% of the lease on top of the payment of said lease."
"This would be per year. As for the 10%, that would be fine."


"This is qood as we are dedicated to preserving the environment as much as possible, we will monitor any development on the moon if the lease is granted and should you fail to keep it clean you will be asked to leave forfieting the bond payed."
"We, too, are dedicated to preserving the environment. Our nation is a little different from many. We are very protective of the environment, and we do not tolerate business ruining it, yet we support business very much, along with our peoples rights. This is very rare in a nation. But, then again, the way we run things are also a bit different."


"May we ask what type of research you intend to do? as for living & housing that will be fine so long as you realise that should the lease not be extended you will be required to leave."
occ:- Unlikely to happen unless you really screw up your relationship with the government.
"We will be studying life on this moon, along with having a research base for various researching not relateled to this moon. And, yes, we do understand about the housing."


"Could you elaborate on this please as to the size of said base should it be built & what it would house? Does this include a space station above your desired location for the docking of starships?"
"We have multiple TSS (Transportable Space Stations). We will use one of our TSS's for this moon. As for the base, it will consist of air, space, sea and land forces, along with missile's that go into space."

"Our most notable question is the money. Will $10 million/year ($200 million over the 200 year term) be accepted if all else is approved?"

OCC: I hope this isn't intruding on you.

IC: Would it be possible for LRR to get trasde rights for our freighters???

OCC: I hope this isn't intruding on you.

IC: Would it be possible for LRR to get trasde rights for our freighters??? OOC: Are you asking me, if I get the land, or Slagkattunger?

OCC: I hope this isn't intruding on you.

IC: Would it be possible for LRR to get trasde rights for our freighters??? OOC: Are you asking me, if I get the land, or Slagkattunger?

I'm asking you if you get the land, Slagkattunger if you don't.

OCC: I hope this isn't intruding on you.

IC: Would it be possible for LRR to get trasde rights for our freighters??? OOC: Are you asking me, if I get the land, or Slagkattunger?

I'm asking you if you get the land, Slagkattunger if you don't. If I do, yes. You'll have to ask Slagkattunger if I don't.

OCC: I hope this isn't intruding on you.

IC: Would it be possible for LRR to get trasde rights for our freighters??? OOC: Are you asking me, if I get the land, or Slagkattunger?

I'm asking you if you get the land, Slagkattunger if you don't. If I do, yes. You'll have to ask Slagkattunger if I don't.

Ok. Thanks.

"Our most notable question is the money. Will $10 million/year ($200 million over the 200 year term) be accepted if all else is approved?"

all ooc:-
*Cough* 10*200 = 2000 therefore 10 million over a 200 year period is $2 Billion + a deposit of $200 million. If this is acceptable then I will give the go ahead in IC :P

But remember you will be in our territory & our laws go (except on the base & space station that belongs to you), so if a police patrol request you to heave to for custom inspection you will be required to obey this you know.

Lunatic Retard Robots trade within my system falls under my juristiction even though you may be trading with ViZon base, hence the same requirement to submit to our laws & custom inspections will apply to you as well. And yes you can trade with ViZon if you wish, trade with my nation will soon be allowed.

"Our most notable question is the money. Will $10 million/year ($200 million over the 200 year term) be accepted if all else is approved?"

all ooc:-
*Cough* 10*200 = 2000 therefore 10 million over a 200 year period is $2 Billion + a deposit of $200 million. If this is acceptable then I will give the go ahead in IC :P

But remember you will be in our territory & our laws go (except on the base & space station that belongs to you), so if a police patrol request you to heave to for custom inspection you will be required to obey this you know.

Lunatic Retard Robots trade within my system falls under my juristiction even though you may be trading with ViZon base, hence the same requirement to submit to our laws & custom inspections will apply to you as well. And yes you can trade with ViZon if you wish, trade with my nation will soon be allowed.

OOC: Oops, my bad... you can tell who didn't do to good on the SAT Math section... :oops: Ahh well

IC: "We're sorry for the miscalculation. $2 billion has been cleared by our government. But, with the recent aquiration of $400 billion in a major deal with Foe Hammer, we would like to make an offer. We are willing to purchase the entire moon for $150 billion. Yes, we still will respect your nation in the form of being located next to your planet, and, yes, we will treat the moon with the same respect as we would if we were to loan from your nation. We have the money, all $150 billion, ready to be wired with your approval.

"Yes, we are still willing to build a base for both the protection of the moon, along with the protection of your planet.

"If this proposal is accepted, we also will include an alliance with your great nation, as we feel it would only make it safer for both nations, in the sense that one will not attack the other. We also will include in this alliance a defense pact, where if the moon is attacked, you will defense the moon. If your planet is attacked, we will defense your planet.

Is this acceptable? We are willing to negociate the price to a point. Thank you!"

"We thankyou for the offer to buy the moon, but unfortunatly the people of our nation have rejected the offer in a current refrerendum held on the issue. Therefore only the lease offer will stand please do not take this as an insult, it's just the common people of this nation don't wish to sell their moon to anyone no matter how much is offered.

If you agree to this we can get down to signing a lease contract and other details involved in this, then you can start to build your base on the agreed to Island at the moons equator."

"We thankyou for the offer to buy the moon, but unfortunatly the people of our nation have rejected the offer in a current refrerendum held on the issue. Therefore only the lease offer will stand please do not take this as an insult, it's just the common people of this nation don't wish to sell their moon to anyone no matter how much is offered.

If you agree to this we can get down to signing a lease contract and other details involved in this, then you can start to build your base on the agreed to Island at the moons equator."

"This is fine. We will accept the lease"

ooc:- Ok what do you want to do now? create a formal "lease" ?

ooc:- Ok what do you want to do now? create a formal "lease" ? OOC: ya...

ooc:- Tried to find an example on web in plain english......no luck :? Heres an attempt, use OOC if you think it requires modification.

Ic:-

The Star Kingdom of Slagkattunger agrees to lease an Area (See appendage A) on the Slagkattunger Moon of Blaues Auge to The Constituational Republic of ViZion for a fixed amount of $10 Million a NS Earth year, for a period of 200 NS Earth years for a total of $2 Billion.

Further more the Leasee (The Constituational Republic of ViZion) will pay a Bond of $200 million up front, to be held by The Star Kingdom of Slagkattunger who will receive all interest accured by the bond of the period of the lease. This bond will be returned at the end of the lease to the Leasee, provided the Leasee does not violate the terms of the lease (See appendage B).

The Leasee will be given first option to renew the lease at the end of lease term.

Appendages
An Area on the equator of Blaues Auge at coordinates ######(ooc:- does it matter?). Which consist of an Island 100 km in length and 67.43 km in width and a height of 2.3 km, the sea bed 150 km from the high tide line of the Island coast. The space above this location will also be reserved for the Leasee to a distance of 350 km from the moons surface.
Terms of Lease:- [list=1:c6912d295b]
The Leasee will maintain the environment of lease to within the leasor standards, with three (3) warnings to be given before the lease contract is violated.
The Leasee may maintain a defensive contingent in the area leased & given Diplomatic Immunity from Slagkattungerian law within that area with the exception of lease terms, slavery, trade raiders, known members of Anti Non-human terriost organisations and child preditors. This exemption list may be modified at a future date after giving the leasee a 2 week warning in writing.
The Leasee will not keep / use weapons of mass destruction on the moon, nor take said items into the gravity pull of the planet Slagkattunger without permission from the elected government of Slagkattunger.
The Leasee will not import live animals not native to Blaues Auge without first passing Slagkattungerian quaratine, this aslo goes for exporting native life from Blaues Auge. This is to prevent potential environmental disasters from occuring on Blaues Auge or on other locations from potentially deadly native organisims.
The Leasee will agree to the custom inspection of all non-military vessels that visit it's area, whether they are Leasee vessels or foriegn traders.
The Leasor must inform the Leasee in writing of any modification of the Lease document, and allow the Leasee the option to appeal said change should it be considered unfair / not clearly explained / or other reason to be given.[/list:o:c6912d295b]

ooc:- Hows this :P

ooc:- Tried to find an example on web in plain english......no luck :? Heres an attempt, use OOC if you think it requires modification.

Ic:-

The Star Kingdom of Slagkattunger agrees to lease an Area (See appendage A) on the Slagkattunger Moon of Blaues Auge to The Constituational Republic of ViZion for a fixed amount of $10 Million a NS Earth year, for a period of 200 NS Earth years for a total of $2 Billion.

Further more the Leasee (The Constituational Republic of ViZion) will pay a Bond of $200 million up front, to be held by The Star Kingdom of Slagkattunger who will receive all interest accured by the bond of the period of the lease. This bond will be returned at the end of the lease to the Leasee, provided the Leasee does not violate the terms of the lease (See appendage B).

The Leasee will be given first option to renew the lease at the end of lease term.

Appendages
An Area on the equator of Blaues Auge at coordinates ######(ooc:- does it matter?). Which consist of an Island 100 km in length and 67.43 km in width and a height of 2.3 km, the sea bed 150 km from the high tide line of the Island coast. The space above this location will also be reserved for the Leasee to a distance of 350 km from the moons surface.
Terms of Lease:- [list=1:221801f3f2]
The Leasee will maintain the environment of lease to within the leasor standards, with three (3) warnings to be given before the lease contract is violated.
The Leasee may maintain a defensive contingent in the area leased & given Diplomatic Immunity from Slagkattungerian law within that area with the exception of lease terms, slavery, trade raiders, known members of Anti Non-human terriost organisations and child preditors. This exemption list may be modified at a future date after giving the leasee a 2 week warning in writing.
The Leasee will not keep / use weapons of mass destruction on the moon, nor take said items into the gravity pull of the planet Slagkattunger without permission from the elected government of Slagkattunger.
The Leasee will not import live animals not native to Blaues Auge without first passing Slagkattungerian quaratine, this aslo goes for exporting native life from Blaues Auge. This is to prevent potential environmental disasters from occuring on Blaues Auge or on other locations from potentially deadly native organisims.
The Leasee will agree to the custom inspection of all non-military vessels that visit it's area, whether they are Leasee vessels or foriegn traders.
The Leasor must inform the Leasee in writing of any modification of the Lease document, and allow the Leasee the option to appeal said change should it be considered unfair / not clearly explained / or other reason to be given.[/list:o:221801f3f2]

ooc:- Hows this :P

OOC: Looks good... want me to just "Sign Here"?

ooc:- Just make a formal IC announcement of having signed & transfered the money :P Then you can get started on making your base.

"As Head of State of ViZion, I, Chiefy, would like to announce we have officially signed the lease of 200 Earth years to the selected island on the moon of Blaues Auge. We would like to thank The Star Kingdom of Slagkattunger for their hard work on their end of this deal, and for letting this happen!

"We shall begin our colonization of Blaues Auge immediately."

ooc:- *Cough* you should mention that it's an island on the moon, the way its worded at the moment it sounds like you leased the whole moon.......

ooc:- *Cough* you should mention that it's an island on the moon, the way its worded at the moment it sounds like you leased the whole moon....... OOC: lol, I'm edit it...

ooc:- Now open for other requests

We have taken interest in a trade proposal, and also a request of a different nature.

Instead of building a facility for resource extraction, we wonder if there are textiles and fabrics we could trade with you. Our exports are sodas and organic circuitry.

We would be interested in building a way-station in orbit for a budding trade route patrol. 2 groups of 2 battlecarriers with their compliment and 6 destroyers have been assigned the task of patrolling trade routes between systems. We need supply and rest stations between points. What say you?

We have taken interest in a trade proposal, and also a request of a different nature.

Instead of building a facility for resource extraction, we wonder if there are textiles and fabrics we could trade with you. Our exports are sodas and organic circuitry.

We would be interested in building a way-station in orbit for a budding trade route patrol. 2 groups of 2 battlecarriers with their compliment and 6 destroyers have been assigned the task of patrolling trade routes between systems. We need supply and rest stations between points. What say you?

Sounds interesting......could you please give us more information on your main products please; be advised that the majority of our trade at this time will be in natural resources like our hardwood, native food items, cultural items like music etc.

As for this way station we ehave no problems with it as it will help with preventing would be pirates from looking at our system, the station will in orbit around the moon ViZon has leased I gather or would you prefer another orbital body (other than Slagkattunger)?

The station will be constructed in an orbital body of your choosing. Modules are being constructed as we speak for the way-station.

As for our organic technology, it is basically a crana-web (TM Snel Race) boosted organic chemi-axon communication system working on par with solid-state circuitry, but with additional protection against EM anomalies. Light, flexible and easy to install.

OOC: I actually had a thread up about the Organic Plating. You mighta seen it.

Hey Vizion.Can I have a small miliatry base on the moon?

Hey Vizion.Can I have a small miliatry base on the moon?

ooc:- *Cough* It's my moon mate, you have to convince me that you should be allowed to lease territory on it for said base & explain purpose for said base within my territory.

The station will be constructed in an orbital body of your choosing. Modules are being constructed as we speak for the way-station.

As for our organic technology, it is basically a crana-web (TM Snel Race) boosted organic chemi-axon communication system working on par with solid-state circuitry, but with additional protection against EM anomalies. Light, flexible and easy to install.

OOC: I actually had a thread up about the Organic Plating. You mighta seen it.

ooc:- I think I did..........hmm ok hows this you pass on the tech to my people (please include link so I can "show" were I got it from) & I will give you permission to build in orbit around Weiße Dame. This will prevent "traffic" issues between your station & ViZon's, also helps with sercurity issues in the early stages. How this sound?

Edit:- Oh forgot to mention that it would be 200 NS Earth years lease as well.

That sounds fair. Keep in mind the secrets behind the organic circuitry will remain secret. TG me for some details. The organic plating (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=101647&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0) we use on many of our crafts is fairly open info, save for a few choice tidbits that we keep to ourselves, to prevent unlicensed proliferation. Heh heh heh..

Transports have been loaded with the first modules for the waystation, as well as construction equipment, and are enroute under destroyer escort towards Weiße Dame. More modules are being constructed in the meantime.

Sakkra has been given permission to build a base in orbit around Weiße Dame, this will be reviewed again in 200 NS Earth years time.

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