Lead Rain needs to be a military power
Lead Rain needs help in the constrution of its pacific fleet and orbital fleet and wants to know how to go about this.
Nothing says military power like your own thermal nuclear bomb.
Belem currently offers suitcase(tactical nukes) and pocket nukes(dirty bombs) for the cost of 5 and 2 million respectively. These weapons can be fitted on almost all missile systems.
how sall we go about payment
Just tell me what you want wire the money and the weapons will be shipped.
my nation is still new and not capibal of suporting nukes
Start first with a pacific fleet...orbital? Please work within feasible guidelines.
Post a call for tenders to construct your vessels. Specify what you want and nationstates into shippbuilding etc will reply.
these nukes will cost about 50 thousand and 20 thousand a year to support at most a year.
what is the cost of prodution of nukes
how many nuke are needed to win a war or at least not lose it
Suitcase nuke 5 million dollars to buy it
*production rights not for sale and attempts to reverse engineer it will trigger self destruct*
Dirty nuke 2 million dollars to buy it
*production rights not for sale and attempts to reverse engineer it will trigger self destruct*
you will easilly be able to maintain them.
If you buy 10 of one model we will take 500 thousand off the price.
how many nuke are needed to win a war or at least not lose it
1 suitcase nuke will wipe out a closely bunched enemy invasion fleet.
5 or 6 if they are spread out.
Or you could bring them into an enemy country with spies and extort the country into surrendering by threatening to detonate them inside the capitol city.
what does it cost you to produce the bombs
400 thousand production cost for a dirty bomb(mostly advanced electronics redudant systems basically its a nightmare to anyone who is trying to disarm it.
1.5 million production for a suitcase nuke(same as the dirty bomb just alot more and more weight involved.)
can they be missles or only suit cases
standard package is a suitcase for both. But if you remove the bomb from the suitcases they can fit in most missiles that can hold atleast 60 pounds for a pocket nuke and for a suitcase nuke you need a missile that can hold atleast 130 pounds.
my men are willing to die for me(or at least their loved ones) how much for only a trigger device
what do you mean only a trigger device?
if i tell you will i have the engernering rights for the fireing mechanisim
hmm, what i see here is a potentially threat to many a nation, beware that any attack on me or any of my allies will be met with an immediate retaliation upon your own nation, i believe 120 maser satelites should take care of any missiles you might be capable of launching, vaporise any aircraft you have and make sure your ships don't get very far, the then following bombardment with high yield plasma devices should then do the glassing of what remains.
please consider that before attacking people, if you yourself however are attacked without reason, feel free to call for help and use whatever methods you have to defend yourself.
just a little, friendly, warning to aspiring warlike nations
Im not selling pieces of a bomb or plans to a bomb im selling the whole bomb lock stock and barrel.
what do you mean only a trigger device?
the trigger device is a small device that makes the main charge reach critical mass, most triggers for large nukes are C4 around a plutonium core, when the C4 detonates the plutonium is compressed to beyond critical mass and detonates, the nuclear explosion this causes provides enough energy to detonate the main charge.
however in both of your device such a trigger would not be needed, since a dirty bomb is a normal bomb with added radioactive materials and the suitcase bomb is small enough to do without a plutonium detonator and just be packed in explosives itself
i have only the intentions for defence of my nation and the safty of its people
what do you mean only a trigger device?
the trigger device is a small device that makes the main charge reach critical mass, most triggers for large nukes are C4 around a plutonium core, when the C4 detonates the plutonium is compressed to beyond critical mass and detonates, the nuclear explosion this causes provides enough energy to detonate the main charge.
however in both of your device such a trigger would not be needed, since a dirty bomb is a normal bomb with added radioactive materials and the suitcase bomb is small enough to do without a plutonium detonator and just be packed in explosives itself
oh ok. so basically its just the pipe with the 2 masses of plutionium at the end with the explosives wrapped around each half.
i have only the intentions for defence of my nation and the safty of its people
buy the bomb then otherwise you won't be able to get nukes until you have over 100 million people.
if that is how your type of detonator works, yep
personally, i prefer plasma or fusion weaponry, makes less of a mess, vaporises more.
my only fusion 'bombs' are the reactors on my maser satelites, these have a small fusion trigger designed to set off a fusion reaction, when released all availble fuel is dumped into it and then set off a few second later right before impact. They tend to generate a really big boom.
My plasma bombs are simply plasma batteries loaded with plasma and a small explosive charge, the battery is dropped and right before impact the charge is set off, which breaches the battery and spews out lots of plasma into the area it was in, simply really bad for your health
belem i am not geting anywere with you as for remmonlands i look forward to a prosperus relationship
yeah I use the pipe system because I heard it produces a more powerful explosion.
On my bigger nukes I use a fusion detonation, its possible to produce up to a 300 megaton explosion then.
hmm, if it is weapons you want, about half our army is still running around with aged chemical lasers and if i'd be able to find someone to buy them that would be most, usefull.
the chemical lasers are rather simple devices, fuelled by a polonium fuel rod (beware, radioactive) and with a range of around 2 to 3km, obviously heavily dependent on weather conditions.
i will sell them for as little as $20000 USD each, i have around 200000 of them
i asked for advice on how to get going on my own prodution and all i got was a frikin sales pich
ok how would i pay you my contry is very young less than 24 hours
Soviet Haaregrad
19-01-2004, 09:26
how many nuke are needed to win a war or at least not lose it
1 suitcase nuke will wipe out a closely bunched enemy invasion fleet.
5 or 6 if they are spread out.
Or you could bring them into an enemy country with spies and extort the country into surrendering by threatening to detonate them inside the capitol city.
Actually a dirty bomb would hardly slow them down.
Other then the direct casualties from the blast the troops hit by it might live for months or more before developing any symptoms.
This of course ignores the fact that as long as they move out of the area they will likely not get enough radiation to cause them any harm at all.
A dirty bomb is a weapon of terror, only useful in a surprise attack against civilians.
Soldiers most likely won't panic and will just leave or suit up.
$20000 USD isn't much, according to the GDP calculator ( http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=Lead%20Rain&defenseprovided=1&defense=20&militarybudget=1 ) you have a total budget of 340,8 million USD, assuming 20% of that is military budget, which isn't so strange an assumption, you'd have a military budget of 68 million USD.
that would leave you with enough money to buy over 3000 of these
i knew that that is why i have stoped talking to belem
are they troop armorment or bigger?
i gtg will this proposition still be open tomoro?
Soviet Haaregrad
19-01-2004, 09:45
$20000 USD isn't much, according to the GDP calculator ( http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=Lead%20Rain&defenseprovided=1&defense=20&militarybudget=1 ) you have a total budget of 340,8 million USD, assuming 20% of that is military budget, which isn't so strange an assumption, you'd have a military budget of 68 million USD.
that would leave you with enough money to buy over 3000 of these
That's not just for buying stuff, that's for maintainence, wages, facilities, ect...
however haaregrad, you are forgetting that he has no military at the moment and thus no maintenance or wages, which leaves all his money open for purchases untill he actaully gets his military running
anyways, to answer you Lead rain, the chemical lasers for 20k USD are portable rifle like weapons, we also have vehicle mounted and anti-air lasers, however we prefer not to sell them yet as many of our vehicles are still equipped with these, we will sell them when we finish upgrading our current vehicles to use MASERS for as far as possible.
The lasers are quite powerfull, the infantry version is easily a match for any projectile based weapon and is extremely effective against normal body armour, which is designed to absorb kinetic impacts, not massive heat
i have obtained a great weapon of destrution and no longer are in need of small arms(unless this beam can be set to not penatrate the bulk heads)