The conspiracy. [Offshoot of Clairmont thread]
This thread is continued from here: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=113883
Fresh off the presses eh? This should prove to be interesting, tag
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ooc:
*wonders if Xanthal is really willing to challenge the Eizen Fleet that has augmented the station's defense*
Seraphim Order Embassy
17-01-2004, 12:40
"Noted and monitored."
Lunatic Retard Robots
17-01-2004, 17:03
The two LRR diplomats fill out the required fields, and look for some kind of transportation from the landing field.
Five Civilized Nations
17-01-2004, 19:28
The government of the Five Civilized Nations is in disorder as they tried to figure out what in god's name Xanthal was trying to do...
Lunatic Retard Robots
17-01-2004, 23:53
Message to 5CN government
From: LRR Sensors Ship Squadron Command
We have very much reason to believe that the ships that attacked the Clairmont base were not Xanthal government ships. From sensors data gleaned from the two battlecruisers of LRR that witnessed the battle, they appear to be outdated, no longer in major use by Xanthal. As well as this, the attack was completely devoid of Xanthalian tactics.
So please, withdraw your declaration of war against Xanthal.
Five Civilized Nations
18-01-2004, 00:51
Message to 5CN government
From: LRR Sensors Ship Squadron Command
We have very much reason to believe that the ships that attacked the Clairmont base were not Xanthal government ships. From sensors data gleaned from the two battlecruisers of LRR that witnessed the battle, they appear to be outdated, no longer in major use by Xanthal. As well as this, the attack was completely devoid of Xanthalian tactics.
So please, withdraw your declaration of war against Xanthal.
(OOC: My nation never declared war... I just said we were in a state of war, but we never declared war... Here is some stuff from the other topic...)
Six unidentified warships exit from hyperspace nearly 5 million kilometers from Clairmont's Hephaestus Shipyards. Accelerating, the warships headed toward Hephaestus. Meanwhile, the CNWS-899 Abyss decloaked and transmitted a short message to Hephaestus.
[code:1:4e7912c0e0]
-BEGIN TRANSMISSION-
TO: CLAIRMONT'S HEPHAESTUS SHIPYARDS
FROM: CAPTAIN JOSHUA CHAMBERLAIN, COMMANDER CNWS-899 ABYSS
TRANSPONDER SIGNALS FROM THE SIX APPROACHING WARSHIPS IDENTIFY THEM AS WARSHIPS BELONGING TO THE ASTEROID PATROL FLEET. FROM THE SIGNALS, THEY ARE ONE NEBULA CLASS STRIKE CRUISER, THREE METEOR X CLASS ASSAULT FRIGATES, AND TWO MUSAI X-II PATROL CRUISERS..
-END TRANSMISSION-
[/code:1:4e7912c0e0]
The flagship of the approaching squadron was the Nebula Class Strike Cruiser, the Antietam, commanded by Commodore Matthew Stephens coasted to a stop 4 million kilometers from the Hephaestus Shipyards. The docking bay of the cruiser opened and three scientific probes were deployed and moved closer to the Shipyards to investigate the means of departure of the Xanthalian warships.
After an hour of analysis, the three science probes completed their task and returned to the Antietam. Moments later a quick message was sent to the Abyss.
[code:1:4e7912c0e0]
-BEGIN TRANSMISSION-
TO: CAPTAIN JOSHUA CHAMBERLAIN, COMMANDER CNWS-899 ABYSS
FROM: COMMODORE MATTHEW STEPHENS, COMMANDER 9TH SOL ASTEROID PATROL SQUADRON
TRACES OF XANTHALIAN WARSHIPS HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS ANTIQUATED XANTHALIAN DREADNAUGHTS. HIGH POSSIBILITY THAT XANTHALIAN ARMADA NOT RESPONSIBLE. ORDERS FROM FLEET COMMANDER TO RETURN TO SOLOMON ASTEROID BASE.
COMMODORE STEPHENS SENDS...
-END TRANSMISSION-
[/code:1:4e7912c0e0]
As soon as it came, the squadron of 5CN warships turned around and entered hyperspace. Meanwhile the Abyss transmitted a quick message to Hephaestus
[code:1:4e7912c0e0]
-BEGIN TRANSMISSION-
TO: HEPHAESTUS SHIPYARDS
FROM: CAPTAIN JOSHUA CHAMBERLAIN, COMMANDER CNWS-899 ABYSS
ATTACKERS POSSIBLY NOT XANTHALIAN, BUT RENEGADES. PLEASE BE ADVISED TO INCREASE SECURITY AND DEFENSE. 5CN WARSHIPS WILL DEPART FROM AREA, ALTHOUGH PATROLS TO THIS AREA WILL CONTINUE...
-END TRANSMISSION-
[/code:1:4e7912c0e0]
OOC: Lots of the people doing this are still posting on the original thread. I'm trying to get them over here...
Lunatic Retard Robots: There is nothing in the way of transportation. The landing field is painted various colors, some red (the landing pads), some blue (for maintenance vehicles) and some green (for pedestrians). The exit is through a clearly labeled building about five hundred yards east. The computer spaks again as it receeds into the ground. "Please proceed to the exit. Do not leave the green paths. Have a nice day."
Lunatic Retard Robots
18-01-2004, 03:34
The two LRR diplomats walk down the green pathways, and soon reach the exit.
After about thirty minutes of filling out more forms and going though ID and security checks, they arrive at the outer area. Ahead of them are several sets of glass doors looking out at the spaceport's hovertrain terminal. To their sides are video and holophones and various books and phamplets containing maps, laws, and other information.
Message to 5CN government
From: LRR Sensors Ship Squadron Command
We have very much reason to believe that the ships that attacked the Clairmont base were not Xanthal government ships. From sensors data gleaned from the two battlecruisers of LRR that witnessed the battle, they appear to be outdated, no longer in major use by Xanthal. As well as this, the attack was completely devoid of Xanthalian tactics.
So please, withdraw your declaration of war against Xanthal.
The Emperor's New Order and the Eizen Empire believe personally that this was no more than a veiled attack by Xanthal, we believe it was approved nd sponsored by his majesty and henceforth the Empire of Eizen will Place a full embargo and a both ways travel ban on this nation, the Empire of Eizen will also issue freely broadcasted warnings to those in Xanthal space of a potential attack by Eizen and Imperial Allies comitted to punishing Xanthal.
Xanthal is formally urged by the Emperor to cease whatever plans it may have in store for Xanthal.
ooc: informally the Emperor wouldn't mind reducing their entire nation into cinders, filling the voids between the stars with Xanthal blood.
Clairmont
18-01-2004, 15:02
OOC: Ok posting here what i posted in my thread regarding the Xanthalian Andromeda-class vessel sitting outside my yard.
IC:
IC:
Three Pinnace's of the Protectorate Navy closed in on the Xanthalian Andromeda-class vessel. They approatched the Xanthalian vessel quickly but with care.
"Docking in two minutes, get ready people." Lieutenant Thomas Willis
announced to his marines. There was no motion visible to the outside from their bulky Battle Armors but a chorus of acknowledgements came thru the comm.
The 30 Marines in Battle Armor checked their weapons once again. A few sported the massive MK-25 Tri-Barrel while most carried heavy pulser rifles.
The Pinnace shook slightly and a metallic clang sounded thru the air as it attached itself to the Xanthal vessel. The docking hatch opened quickly and the Marines went in.
Setting up a secure perimeter around the entry hatch to the shuttle, the marines kept their weapons ready in case there would be an attack, after all havent these people attacked them just earlier?
Lieutenant Willis followed his marines and sought the first Xanthalian crewman he could find.
"Take me to your captain, and i advise you to expedite."
Lunatic Retard Robots
19-01-2004, 00:00
After about thirty minutes of filling out more forms and going though ID and security checks, they arrive at the outer area. Ahead of them are several sets of glass doors looking out at the spaceport's hovertrain terminal. To their sides are video and holophones and various books and phamplets containing maps, laws, and other information.
The LRR diplomats look through the pamphlets, and find the hovertrain route to the Xanthalian government center. They board the train, and arrive several minutes later.
Eizen: The Xanthalian government, while respecting your opinion, assures you that you are incorrect in your assessment of the situation. We are not responsible for the attack, and nothing you can say will change that. We urge you to be level-headed regarding this matter and not to cause unnecessary conflict.
Clairmont: The crewman bows. "Certainly. We have been informed of your boarding and been instructed to comply with any requests you make. This way, please." The Xanthalian enters a turbolift and waits for the boarders to join him.
Lunatic Retard Robots:
OOC: Hours, more like. You're on the wrong continent. Oh well, it doesn't really matter.
IC: After a long but relatively quick ride to the planet's Alpha continent, two transfers, and a short walk the diplomats find themselves at the outer doors of the massive Xanthalian government HQ. Spanning four square blocks and rising 250 stories into the air, the building is a monument to Xanthal's achievement. Out front is a massive courtyard with fountains and fields, with a giant statue of Zeke Zabertini in its center.
Lunatic Retard Robots
19-01-2004, 23:51
The LRR diplomats walk inside, finding the front desk.
"Excuse me, we are diplomats from LRR. We would like to see the head of your government's intelligence department as soon as possible."
The human pulls out his ID papers, but the robot assumes that he'll be able to go along with his cohort.
Lunatic Retard Robots
19-01-2004, 23:52
The LRR diplomats walk inside, finding the front desk.
"Excuse me, we are diplomats from LRR. We would like to see the head of your government's intelligence department as soon as possible."
The human pulls out his ID papers, but the robot assumes that he'll be able to go along with his cohort.
Eizen: The Xanthalian government, while respecting your opinion, assures you that you are incorrect in your assessment of the situation. We are not responsible for the attack, and nothing you can say will change that. We urge you to be level-headed regarding this matter and not to cause unnecessary conflict.
Message from Imperial Envoy Chistov on behalf of his Majesty:
Your government has right to be addressing me in such a manner. The New Order demands that you address in a more respectful and less insolent tone regarding this issue. We have no reason to take your word at face value and nor shall we, we will continue to guard the Clairmont station and we will treat any impromptu and unauthorized (by Clairmont) encounters of Xanthalian ships, be they civilian, pirate, or government, as a hostile action by your government.
If these are truly the actions of pirates then I am now placing a responsibility on your government to contain these combatants lest they deliver you to a fate of fire and brimstone. I am not alone in my opinion, however I am FAR less tolerant than my allies, of weasel nations like you.
OOC: Leave Clairmont Alone. a couple thousand Eizen Military engineers have just begun operating on that station now, any attck on them constitutes "An Attack on the Armed forces of Eizen" and as such is grounds for War. Since the Empire has clearly stated it will treat incursions by Xanthalian ships as hostile regardless of who is operating them, you had best curb the actions of Pirates. Especially those you can RP without indirectly committing your forces, thats bullshit, unless I get to use my "magical phantom wizard n00k" fleet.
Clairmont
20-01-2004, 00:34
The Lieutenant followed the Xanthalian crewman, keeping his weapon lowered but ready to fire on a moments notice. He thought someone would consider it useless paranoia but he was a marine, paranoia was what would keep him alive.
He had instructed two of his marines to come with him, the rest had remained to watch over the docking port to the Pinnace.
He was admittedly anxious to hear what the Captain of this vessel had to say in order to explain the attack.
Lunatic Retard Robots: The representative looks at the papers. "You're supposed to have appointments for this kind of thing, but I'll see what I can do." She picks up a phone and hits a few numbers. She begins talking with the Ministry of Intelligence front desk.
Eizen:
OOC: Calm down. This is an old plot I've just decided to let resurface in this situation. Show a little tolerance. No major damage was done IC by the outlaws, and I have no plans to have them come back to that target. Just relax and go with the IC flow.
IC: We cannot control the actions of pirates. We don't know how they got ahold of our ships, but those vessels have been missing for decades. If you are attacked by them again, we encourage you to destroy them, but do not blame us for their actions. We also urge you not to take hostile action against our transports, many of which pass through or stop in Clairmont-aligned space. We can reroute them if necessary, but that would cause needless delays of both civilian and cargo transportation so we would rather not if such an action can be avoided. Rest assured that we will bring any pirates or other troublemakers to justice within our own borders, but we do not assume authority outside our territory unless we are at war. War is not a direction we want to take here.
Clairmont: The crewman leads the boarders to the captain, who is sitting in his command seat on the ship's bridge. The captain, a lanky Than (which, if you don't know, is a bug-like alien about as big as a Human), stands and looks from the Lieutenant to his guards and back again. "Well, I'm sorry we had to meet like this. I'm Captain Louis Dorrel of Xanthalian Armada Starship zero-six. Please tell me, what happened here? You say that you were attacked by Armada starships, but Armada Command claims that all of our ships are accounted for. Are you certain they were Armada ships?"
Seraphim Order Embassy
20-01-2004, 01:53
OOC:
Xanthal. With all due respect, the IC "flow" is not just determined by you, but by all the participants. If someone in the drama wishes to act in accordance with how his or her nation would normallly act - then who are you to say any different? Is this particular RP scripted from beginning to end here? If so, then people should have been notified. If not, then why not go with the "flow" - even if you find it somewhat unpalatable.
As well, since Eizen is part of the Order, it wouldn't be too much of a stretch for them to share some basic information - such as how they feel about this situation, with the rest of us. That's the justification for the following IC statement.
IC:
[Quantum Encryption - Xanthal]
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We suggest that you take much harsher measures to deal with these pirates since they seem to be sullying your "good name" - instead of pleading innocence. Rest assured that if we capture them - then the truth will be revealed. One way...or another.
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Order of the Seraphim (http://s2.invisionfree.com/Order_ofthe_Seraphim/index.php?act=idx)
Seraphim Order Embassy:
OOC: I don't claim that the flow is determined only by me. The only condition I have set for this RP is that it doesn't result in an all-out war. Other than that, other nations may do as they wish.
IC: Harsher measures? Such as what? If we catch them, they will be dealt with. If you catch them we expect no less.
Seraphim Order Embassy
20-01-2004, 02:15
Seraphim Order Embassy:
OOC: I don't claim that the flow is determined only by me. The only condition I have set for this RP is that it doesn't result in an all-out war. Other than that, other nations may do as they wish.
IC: Harsher measures? Such as what? If we catch them, they will be dealt with. If you catch them we expect no less.
OOC: Well, that has yet to be determined I'm sure by whatever negotiations are undertaken.
IC:
[Quantum Encryption - Xanthal]
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It is how you seem to deal with them that causes us concern. Your current methods are obviously ineffective since they attacked Clairmont's station.
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OOC: I don't claim that the flow is determined only by me. The only condition I have set for this RP is that it doesn't result in an all-out war. Other than that, other nations may do as they wish.
Then you should have thought harder about allowing your ships to "fall" into the hands of outlaws. You should also do a little more homework on who your victims are in the future. And finally, just because we know OOCly that this "isn't your fault", as far as IC knowledge goes; you are public enemy #1 until (and if) you can convincingly clear your name.
ic:
To: Xanthal
From: Sketch
Subj: de-escalating the situation
Msg:
To avoid further unnecessary hostile confrontations, we strongly recommend that Xanthal take the necessary steps to reroute all Xanthalian traffic far away from Clairmont-aligned space. Further unauthorized intrusions into and around Clairmont-aligned space will be dealt overwhelming force. You have been forewarned.
Eizen:
OOC: Calm down. This is an old plot I've just decided to let resurface in this situation. Show a little tolerance. No major damage was done IC by the outlaws, and I have no plans to have them come back to that target. Just relax and go with the IC flow.
IC: We cannot control the actions of pirates. We don't know how they got ahold of our ships, but those vessels have been missing for decades. If you are attacked by them again, we encourage you to destroy them, but do not blame us for their actions. We also urge you not to take hostile action against our transports, many of which pass through or stop in Clairmont-aligned space. We can reroute them if necessary, but that would cause needless delays of both civilian and cargo transportation so we would rather not if such an action can be avoided. Rest assured that we will bring any pirates or other troublemakers to justice within our own borders, but we do not assume authority outside our territory unless we are at war. War is not a direction we want to take here.
IC:
Imperial Envoy Chistov to Xanthal Government:
How dare you dictate terms to us, we cannot take your word at face value, we find you untrustworthy, and we find you responsible for this attack regardless. You will comply with the orders of his majesty, now that the lives of Eizen soldiers are at stake we will accept no compromise. The New Order is not granting any options.
We do not care how much your nation and its civilians are inconvenienced, perhaps if you had prevented this attack then you would not be in such a situation. War is a direction we are willing to take if it means the security of our allies.
OC:
Guess what, I don't see any post or thread granting you control over my nation's policy. Screw off. If you knew anything about Eizen it would be that we never back down when threatened.
addendum OC: You barged into another nation's RP, you do NOT get to set terms and conditions.
Clairmont
20-01-2004, 07:41
The Lieutenant merely handed the Captain a sensor log disk.
"They were most positively ID'd as Armada vessels captain."
Seraphim Order Embassy: That is most unfair. Those ships were legally sold to the Trasnian organization. It was their responsibility to keep track of them. When Trasnia collapsed, the vessels disappeared. This is the first we've seen of them since then. We don't know what modifications have been made to them or who's controlling them. We haven't had any contact with them at all. Besides, there's no evidence so far that they have been in our space since they went missing.
Sketch:
OOC: I'm aware of all that. I did this to stir up some unrest. That was the whole point. Anyway, what fun would it be if I carefully selected a victim? This way I get a lot more surprise in who gets involved and how.
IC: All our traffic through foreign space is authorized, but in the intrest of ensuring that no further misunderstadings occur all Xanthalian ships normally passing through Clairmont have been rerouted. Be aware that all transports curretly in that space will be leaving as soon as possible, so please refrain from taking any rash action until they can be removed.
Eizen:
OOC: I'm not even going to talk to you OOC anymore, you're too grouchy.
IC: We are well aware of all this. Our traffic through Clairmont has been rerouted and all Xanthalian vessels in that space have been instructed to leave. We do not seek to fight. We understand your suspicion, but look at our nation's history. We are not a warlike institution. Still, as you have repeatedly said, you do not trust us. That is fine. For now, let us simply work together as well as we can to find and prosecute those responsible for this attack. We know from information given to us by those involved that these ships are Xanthalian Dreadnaughts, and we are currently assuming that they are the same ships that disappeared from Trasnian control over fifty years ago. We ask you to send any data you may have gathered on the ships to us so that we may investigate further and perhaps find a way to track them. Believe this, if nothing else: We would be as happy or happier than you if we were able to catch the criminals that carried out this unprovoked attack. If the evidence shows that it was our own vessels that attacked you, we will without hesitation bring the crews responsible to justice, for they acted without authorization from any Xanthalian authority. For the moment, let us keep cool heads while we sort out the details of what has happened.
Clairmont: The Captain looks over the data. "This is most disturbing. However, I believe that I can prove from this data alone that the vessels you encountered were not truly ours, though for someone outside the Armada it was a masterful trick. Please, follow me to the briefing room." The captain walks through a set of sliding doors to a room with a large meeting table in its center and several viewscreens of various sizes on the walls. He poises his fingers over the console at one of the terminals, but checks himself and looks at the Clairmont Lieutenant. "May I?"
Your compliance with our orders are noted and the Emperor is glad that you've pursued this course, do not think for one second we are letting you off the hook. Continue to comply and you might yet though.
Clairmont
20-01-2004, 22:51
The marine lieutenant followed the Captain and motioned the two marines who had accompanied him to stay on the bridge and keep an eye out. He
motioned the Captain to continue on as he spoke to him and then added.
"If you could Captain, be quick about it."
Eizen: We are happy to comply however we can in regards to other nations' territory. This is a horrible thing for us both. We are pleased that you have kept a cool head thus far and avoided an armed confrontation between our nations. However, as it has come to our attention that the more suspicious, you included, have mobilized your fleets, we must do the same in the intrest of our own safety. Our warships will remain in Xanthalian-controlled space though, to ensure that no more misunderstandngs occur. While this situation settles, we urge you once again to provide us with the sensor data you gathered of those Dreadnaughts. It is imperative that we gather as much information as possible on them so that we may be of use in helping you to track them down.
Lunatic Retard Robots
21-01-2004, 00:05
The two LRR delegates find chairs in the main lobby and wait for the secretary to set up an appointment for them.
Lunatic Retard Robots
21-01-2004, 00:06
The two LRR delegates find chairs in the main lobby and wait for the secretary to set up an appointment for them.
Seraphim Order Embassy
21-01-2004, 01:43
[Quantum Encryption - Xanthal]
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Seraphim Order Embassy: That is most unfair. Those ships were legally sold to the Trasnian organization. It was their responsibility to keep track of them. When Trasnia collapsed, the vessels disappeared. This is the first we've seen of them since then. We don't know what modifications have been made to them or who's controlling them. We haven't had any contact with them at all. Besides, there's no evidence so far that they have been in our space since they went missing.
Do not cry to us about "fair". Apparently you didn't even do a thorough background check on this "Trasnian" organization. Now you see the consequences of your ineptitude. "Fair" would be to reduce your nation to ashes. A "compromise" would be, at the very least, to exact compensation for the damage the "pirates" wrought from your government. Anything less would be insulting.
Your cowardice, whining, and disrespect in this whole affair shall be...remembered.
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The Order of the Seraphim (http://s2.invisionfree.com/Order_ofthe_Seraphim/index.php?act=idx)
OOC: You certainly did bite off more than you can chew here. No wonder one of your "conditions" was to avoid "an all out war". Try living with the consequences of your actions rather than picking a victim and suddenly begin to frantically backpedal when you realize you are in way over your head.
Lunatic Retard Robots: After a short while, the secretary waves the diplomats up. "Take the elevator to floor seventeen. If you have any weapons, now would be a good time to hand them over."
Seraphim Order Embassy:
OOC: Try not telling me how to RP. You joined of your own accord, you can leave if you don't like it. Otherwise, deal with it and quit your bitching.
IC: Cowardice? Whining? Disrespect? We have told only the truth and expressed only our opinions. If you call concessions to avoid unnecessary war cowardly, we are guilty. If you call our pleas for calm addressing of the issue rather than jumping to arms whining, we are also guilty. If you call our devotion to telling only the truth so far as we know it with no censors or BS attached disrespectful, you may call us guilty again. However, we do not see these actions as any of the words you have used to describe us. Perhaps they would be better applied to yourself. Still, we refuse to accept responsibility for the actions of vessels we relinquished from our control over a century ago. If a Xanthalian bought a gun from another nation and shot another Xanthalian with it, we wouldn't blame the other nation. You want someone to point the finger at? Try pointing it at the marauders that attacked Clairmont's station; who, by the way, we are completely unable to help you stop or even find because your "allies" refuse to give us any data on the ships. We'd be only too happy to help, but you need to help us help you first.
Seraphim Order Embassy
21-01-2004, 05:40
Seraphim Order Embassy:
OOC: Try not telling me how to RP. You joined of your own accord, you can leave if you don't like it. Otherwise, deal with it and quit your bitching.
You obviously failed to note the link posted by us ealier. This "nation" represents The Order of the Seraphim (http://s2.invisionfree.com/Order_ofthe_Seraphim/index.php?act=idx), an alliance which Clairmont is a part of. Which means......we did not "join" on our own accord, you dragged us into it. Perhaps you would like us to deal with it? It sounded like quite the open offer.
Seraphim Order Embassy: OOC: I read it. My rule still applies. I don't care how many allies there are. I have allies too, you know. That's not important. Please try to curb your temper or drop out of the RP, I really don't care which, but I don't want to spend this thread arguing with you. RP or don't, it's up to you.
Seraphim Order Embassy
21-01-2004, 06:28
Seraphim Order Embassy: OOC: I read it. My rule still applies. I don't care how many allies there are. I have allies too, you know. That's not important. Please try to curb your temper or drop out of the RP, I really don't care which, but I don't want to spend this thread arguing with you. RP or don't, it's up to you.
OOC: I really get the feeling that your "old plot" is not going the way you wanted it, hence why you are complaining. You want to discuss the basics of roleplaying further, you give this account a telegram. Stop issuing imperious OOC commands and conditions (e.g. "The only condition I have set for this RP is that it doesn't result in an all-out war"; "Please try to curb your temper or drop out of the RP") for IC reactions by member of the Order. As explained earlier, and quite frankly it gets tiring to take away the mystery of a story when everything is oh so nicely laid out in OOC chatter, the Order isn't too keen on your nation feigning innocence. That is, it looks very suspicious that the pirates just happened to be using ships made by your nation.
Gee, do you think people would just say "Hmmm. I was just attacked by ships that look remarkable similar, if not the same, that are made by nation X. I wonder if there might be a connection? Nah, that's impossible. No way. Nation X would have nothing to do with it at all" :roll:
IC:
[Quantum Encryption - Xanthal]
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Be very careful in assigning the words "whining", "cowardice", and "disrespect" to the Order. You are walking on a very high tightrope with no safety net and a strong breeze blowing.
If you want to help, then we suggest that you curb your pirate problem else we do it for you and discover any connections between them and yourselves.
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The Order of the Seraphim (http://s2.invisionfree.com/Order_ofthe_Seraphim/index.php?act=idx)
The Empire of Eizen is a proud Member of the Order of the Seraphim, keep in mind you WILL respect the Order Embassy just as you would any other nation defending Clairmont.
Seraphim Order Embassy
21-01-2004, 10:27
[Quantum Encryption – Xanthal]
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Do you take the Order of the Seraphim for fools? We know that you aid and abet piracy. Here is the proof linking your knowledge between Trasnia and yourselves.
Despite an international protest, the Xanthalian Ministry of Justice, Ministry of Commerce, and Ministry of Foreign Affairs have jointly agreed that as long as pirate nations, Trasnia included, can pay for purchases with money and technology, they cannot be legally denied the ability to purchase Xanthalian ships of the line. The Trasnian pirates have already placed an order for five Dreadnaught class vessels, and it is certain that more orders from both Trasnia and other pirate groups will be not long forthcoming. The Xanthalian Ministry of Foreign Affairs has declared that it is willing to hear and respond to any commentary that foreign governments wish to give regarding the decision through normal international channels.
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=84185&highlight=
… After many debates on the subject, it has been determined that outlaws should be entitled to passage and residence in Xanthal with specific regulations on conduct. Many Xanthalian laws do not apply to these people, and Xanthal will refrain from prosecuting them for level four criminal offenses. Outlaws will, however, be required to refrain from disrupting normal operation of Xanthalian affairs. In an unprescedented move, the Xanthalian government has decided that these outlaws should be allowed to posess their own armed ships within Xanthalian borders, and that they are entitled to protection by Xanthalian authorities by law…
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=112407&highlight=
Even your latest words entrap you:
"Seraphim Order Embassy: That is most unfair. Those ships were legally sold to the Trasnian organization. It was their responsibility to keep track of them. When Trasnia collapsed, the vessels disappeared."
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=116008&start=20
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The Order of the Seraphim (http://s2.invisionfree.com/Order_ofthe_Seraphim/index.php?act=idx)
OOC: I'm sick of this pointless bickering. I will not respond to any more OOC comments on this board. My last say is this: If you don't want to play the game I've set up, leave. I am perfectly happy with whatever happens IC as long as it isn't war. I just don't want to waste my time OOC arguing with you people.
IC:
Seraphim Order Embassy: We never denied that we sold those ships to Trasnia. Unfortunately, that organization no longer exists. That is why we are so perplexed as to where they have ended up. Since it is obviously not the Trasnians in control of this vessel, we need to know who is. When we know that, we'll have a better idea of how to stop them. We have no formal relations with pirate nations, nor have we sold them any vessels for nearly two centuries (which was a policy change from an open sale arrangement, which is when those ships were sold). That's not important now though. What's important is us working together to crush the threat posed by those ships by destroying them. After we've done that you can investigate us as much as you'd like, but until then you're only allowing the Dreadnaughts more time to plan their next strike.
Lunatic Retard Robots
21-01-2004, 23:47
The LRR delegates take the elevator up to floor 17.
Seraphim Order Embassy
22-01-2004, 01:12
OOC: Answer your telegrams please.
IC:
[Quantum Encryption - Xanthal]
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Your nation is full of liars and mealy mouths. A connection has been established between your government and pirates. Your attempts to weasel out of this situation only worsens your sorry state of affairs and, quite frankly, is disgusting.
You attack one of our own. You reap what you sow.
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The Order of the Seraphim (http://s2.invisionfree.com/Order_ofthe_Seraphim/index.php?act=idx)
Seraphim Order Embassy: The only residual connection between us and pirates are those five ships, now do you want us to eliminate them or not?
Lunatic Retard Robots: The elevator stops and the door opens into a midsize room with solid metal walls reinforced with force fields. A single heavy metal door lies straight ahead, it is sealed tightly.
Seraphim Order Embassy
22-01-2004, 07:04
Seraphim Order Embassy: The only residual connection between us and pirates are those five ships, now do you want us to eliminate them or not?
Quantum Encryption - Xanthal]
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I'm sure that your government will go to great lengths to actually eliminate the pirates - since we already established that your government willingly sells ships to such groups and provides safe haven for them.
Oh indeed. We certainly have full confidence in your abilities. Try to convince us why we should show you any leniency.
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The Order of the Seraphim (http://s2.invisionfree.com/Order_ofthe_Seraphim/index.php?act=idx)
Seraphim Order Embassy: That was over a hundred years ago, under a government structure that no longer exists here. Stop trying to make us responsible for the actions of our forefathers. The only important thing is that we no longer sell ships to pirates. Now stop threatening us and do something useful like helping us to destroy the marauders.
Seraphim Order Embassy
23-01-2004, 07:02
[Quantum Encryption - Xanthal]
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Why do you continue to insist on telling how the Order should respond? You are a nation full of liars and liars such as you deserve to have their tongues cut out and their heads adoring pikes.
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The Order of the Seraphim (http://s2.invisionfree.com/Order_ofthe_Seraphim/index.php?act=idx)
Seraphim Order Embassy: We insist because we know you are upset and we wish to end your displeasure as soon as possible by capturing the criminals. However, if you do not wish to provide the information we will attempt to catch the perpetrators on our own. Do not expect a prompt capture, though. Since you will not tell us anything, we will have to gather our own information first. We will try to move as quickly as possible. By the way, are we allowed to send our ships back into Clairmont space yet? It would be much easier if we could examine the scene of the crime. If it makes you feel better, we could just send a science vessel.
Lunatic Retard Robots
24-01-2004, 02:49
Seraphim Order Embassy: The only residual connection between us and pirates are those five ships, now do you want us to eliminate them or not?
Lunatic Retard Robots: The elevator stops and the door opens into a midsize room with solid metal walls reinforced with force fields. A single heavy metal door lies straight ahead, it is sealed tightly.
The LRR delegates walk ahead towards the doors, unsure what to expect.
Seraphim Order Embassy: We insist because we know you are upset and we wish to end your displeasure as soon as possible by capturing the criminals. However, if you do not wish to provide the information we will attempt to catch the perpetrators on our own. Do not expect a prompt capture, though. Since you will not tell us anything, we will have to gather our own information first. We will try to move as quickly as possible. By the way, are we allowed to send our ships back into Clairmont space yet? It would be much easier if we could examine the scene of the crime. If it makes you feel better, we could just send a science vessel.
You are untrustworthy. Stay out of Clairmont space. Even an unarmed science vessel is unwanted and will be destroyed should it violate the space of any allied Seraphim member.
your requests are obviously vieled attempts to infiltrate allied territory.
Lunatic Retard Robots
24-01-2004, 18:11
Message To All Parties
From LRR Forigen Ministry
It seems to us that all of you here are being incredibly stupid about this whole affair. You are about to declare war on a country because ships that it sold to what became a pirate organization over a century ago were stolen and used to attack a Clairmont space station, which recieved only slight damage. This is in no way grounds for a war. If you would all just lower your tempers, you might be able to work something out instead of insulting back and forth like a rabble of little kids.
To: LRR Foreign Ministry
From: Sketchian DiploCorps
Subj: LRR involvement
Msg:
The issue at hand is not merely the intrusion of hostile vessels into Clairmont space, it is the inability of the Xanthal Republic to accept responsibility for their own actions. The inability of the Xanthal Republic to make sound decisions in the most obvious cases is a cause for great concern to us. The LRR have also shown a disturbing tendency to blindly follow whatever choices the Xanthals make. The Xanthals base their innocence on the weakest of all arguments - free trade and capitalist policies. The question I pose is, when is it ever appropriate to arm the dangerous criminals of society? hether they are able and willing to pay for such supplies is inmaterial to the morality of the situation. A criminal is a criminal, and to knowingly supply a criminal with the means to commit crimes is considered aiding and abetting. Case in point - what would the LRR leaders think if Sketch was to actively sell advanced arms to dissident organizations intent on overthrowing the LRR government? This is not an idle question, for it is exactly what the Xanthalians have done, whether through purpose intentions or blind ignorance.
The fact that the pirate organization no longer exists, or that the vessels were sold over a hundred years ago, or even that the damage received by the station were minimal, are a moot point. The problem lies with the fact that the Xanthalians have still failed to rescind their erroneous policy of supply weapons to criminal organizations, have failed to recognize the inherent dangers of doing such, have failed to take responsibility for their policies, and further more, are pretentious enough to presume that our ire towards them is unreasonable - after ample evidence has provided that it was their vessels, confirmed by the IFF signatures broadcasted, that attacked the Clairmont station.
The blind obediance of the LRR leadership to Xanthal policy disturbs us. Your insistence on maintaining the innocence of Xanthal and your support of their actions lead us to believe that you are, in fact, collaborating with them. Further more, the unannounced appearance of multiple LRR warships immmediately after the pirate attack is seen as highly coincidental, too convient in fact. As was the supposedly "diplomatic" Xanthalian warship - also an unannounced incursion into Clairmont space. It would be interesting to know what all those warships would have done had the Order not already have a had military presence in the area, or the had the station defenses not yet been completed.
The LRR leadership walks on thin ice, we have yet to decide on the significance of your involvement. Xanthal has already been classified as a "beligerent nation with hostile intent", we suggest that you watch your actions carefully to avoid a similer classification. The Order will deal with the ones responsible for the attack. The only thing that the LRRs need to do is stay out of our way.
The Eizen fleets defending Clarimont's space station have been ordered to maintain a yellow alert status regarding the LRR ships. All LRR ships are to maintain a steady broadcast identifying their ships, Eizen ships are to treat the LRR ships as neutral with a strict monitoring policy. Furthermore. The LRR ships near Clairmont will need to recieve explicit permission from the Clairmont government in order to remain a neutral party after another 24 hours from this particular moment.
With the constant watch status on the LRR ships, they will not be able to catch the allied forces unawares in this sector.
Lunatic Retard Robots
25-01-2004, 04:51
Message to All Parties Concerned
From LRR ministry of Forigen Affairs
Oh please! It is very strange that you say we blindly follow the actions of the Xanthalian government. You forget the fact that LRR has lost ships and citizens to pirate organizations supplied by Xanthalian companies, and were it not for Xanthal's descision to suspend sales and repay our damages, we would probably have been in your position right now.
As for LRR ships in the area after the attack, the two Abraham Lincoln class battlecruisers in the area were returning from a routine trading excursion to the Benderland International Space Hub. We are sure both your sensors records and the station's trade records will verify this claim. As well as this, if you look at LRR ship design, you will find that only a small number of our ships are designed solely for combat. None of those types were present at the time of the encounter. In fact, the ships present at the time of the attack and immediately after have already been replaced by new designs for reason of their age and relative maintainance costs. We are sure, however, that you will come arcoss such ships plying the international trade routes.
But anyhow, we find it irrational of you to place such blame on our heads with such sparse, at best, evidence. While we are also unhappy about Xanthal's somewhat poor record of cracking down on these pirate and subversive organizations, we do not see it as a cause for war. When you give thought to the subject, very few things actually are.
Lunatic Retard Robots
25-01-2004, 04:52
Message to All Parties Concerned
From LRR ministry of Forigen Affairs
Oh please! It is very strange that you say we blindly follow the actions of the Xanthalian government. You forget the fact that LRR has lost ships and citizens to pirate organizations supplied by Xanthalian companies, and were it not for Xanthal's descision to suspend sales and repay our damages, we would probably have been in your position right now.
As for LRR ships in the area after the attack, the two Abraham Lincoln class battlecruisers in the area were returning from a routine trading excursion to the Benderland International Space Hub. We are sure both your sensors records and the station's trade records will verify this claim. As well as this, if you look at LRR ship design, you will find that only a small number of our ships are designed solely for combat. None of those types were present at the time of the encounter. In fact, the ships present at the time of the attack and immediately after have already been replaced by new designs for reason of their age and relative maintainance costs. We are sure, however, that you will come arcoss such ships plying the international trade routes.
But anyhow, we find it irrational of you to place such blame on our heads with such sparse, at best, evidence. While we are also unhappy about Xanthal's somewhat poor record of cracking down on these pirate and subversive organizations, we do not see it as a cause for war. When you give thought to the subject, very few things actually are.
To Resolve this conflict without the need for conflict, which will ultimately result in the unwanted deaths of millions of Xanthalian citizens. His Majesty proposes a treaty of non agression between the involved parties, most Importantly, the Nation of Clairmont and the Allied nations of the Order of the Seraphim, and to the nation of Xanthal.
The Treaty of Hephaestus
This treaty affirms that the nations of the Order of the Seraphim and the nation of Xanthal will agree to the following conditions.
-The Nation of Xanthal will formally apologize to the ORder for past actions regarding the sale of military hardware to fringe groups. However it will not necessairly accept responsibility for said attack. Any disputes over reparations will be made between the nations of Clairmont and Xanthal should they be necessary.
-The Nation of Xanthal will never enter Clairmont space again without the express consent of Clairmont's standing government, Xanthalian ships of any class publically or privately owned will be forced to circumvent Clairmont space under this treaty.
-The Nation of Xanthal will committ itself to destroying pirate fringe groups within its territory. Likewise they will notify any and all nations should they detect an international threat in a timely manner. Xanthal will never again sell weapons of war to anyone but legitimate governments.
-The Nation of Xanthal is prohibited from membership in the Order of the Seraphim, now and forever.
-With the signing of this treaty by Xanthal, the Order of the Seraphim will pledge to avoid a war with Xanthal, which would result in much bloodshed. With the signing of this treaty both sides will agree to end the conflict and go their separate ways.
Also, Should this treaty be signed Eizen will cease is operations arrayed towards Lunatic Retard Robots and they shall be treated as a fully neutral nation, with their privilieges in Clairmont space under the sole control of the Clairmont government. We feel they have no trecherous intentions, but in times of crisis one cannot be too careful.
OOC:
And an Out of Character Informal treaty. Seraphim Member NAtions and Xanthal promise to leave each other the f--k alone and not RP with each other unless both sides agree to it. We recognize Xanthal that you have as much right to RP on nationstates as anyone else, but we act as we do in defense of our allies, in the future your planned roleplays should be with someone more consenting, ok?
I believe in order for this treaty to be valid, it should be signed by Clairmont, Xanthal, and the Seraphim Embassy.
Lunatic Retard Robots
25-01-2004, 23:39
We are very glad that you have cooled off.
We are very glad that you have cooled off.
OOC:
You misunderstand, If Xanthal doesn't sign this treaty or a similar version, then the Order can much more easily justify a war, which according to the latest Per Capita Defense rankings would be an outright devastation of Xanthal should we have but one or two of our nations get involved.
Seraphim Order Embassy
26-01-2004, 09:15
[Quantum Encryption - Lunatic Retard Robots]
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Message to All Parties Concerned
From LRR ministry of Forigen Affairs
Oh please! It is very strange that you say we blindly follow the actions of the Xanthalian government. You forget the fact that LRR has lost ships and citizens to pirate organizations supplied by Xanthalian companies, and were it not for Xanthal's descision to suspend sales and repay our damages, we would probably have been in your position right now.
Then you should support us. As well, "suspend" does not mean "permanently stop" now does it? For all you know, the "suspension" could have very well ended and sales to pirates resumed.
As for LRR ships in the area after the attack, the two Abraham Lincoln class battlecruisers in the area were returning from a routine trading excursion to the Benderland International Space Hub. We are sure both your sensors records and the station's trade records will verify this claim. As well as this, if you look at LRR ship design, you will find that only a small number of our ships are designed solely for combat. None of those types were present at the time of the encounter. In fact, the ships present at the time of the attack and immediately after have already been replaced by new designs for reason of their age and relative maintainance costs. We are sure, however, that you will come arcoss such ships plying the international trade routes.
Perhaps for the present time it would be best to minimize your presence in regards to space craft movements.
But anyhow, we find it irrational of you to place such blame on our heads with such sparse, at best, evidence. While we are also unhappy about Xanthal's somewhat poor record of cracking down on these pirate and subversive organizations, we do not see it as a cause for war. When you give thought to the subject, very few things actually are.
Hardly irrational. How do you classify unprovoked attacks upon an allies assets? How you you classify a nation feigning innocence yet a definite link has been established between itself and pirate organizations? Keep in mind that Xanthal openly sells arms to pirates and provides them with safe harbour.
Here is the evidence we speak of:
Sells to pirates (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=84185&highlight=)
Provides shelter for pirates (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=112407&highlight=)
Rather convincing from our point of view. Why would Xanthal sell ships to pirates and then turn around to crack down on them? Perhaps Xanthal has issued letters of marque to these pirates to prey upon others.
That being said, we obviously support the initiative proposed by our noble colleagues from the New Order of Eizen.
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Order of the Seraphim (http://s2.invisionfree.com/Order_ofthe_Seraphim/index.php?act=idx)
OOC: ICly, you would not have known of the transmissions with specific evidence sent to Xanthal, unless you want to admit that you and Xanthal are sharing information or you are decrypting our transmissions to Xanthal.
Seraphim Order Embassy
27-01-2004, 05:56
[Quantum Encryption - Xanthal]
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We have noticed your seemingly reluctance in wanting to sign the treaty put forth by Eizen. As well, this office has received no communication from your diplomats. Why is this so?
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Order of the Seraphim (http://s2.invisionfree.com/Order_ofthe_Seraphim/index.php?act=idx)
OOC: Let us know what's up please.
Lunatic Retard Robots
27-01-2004, 23:49
To: The Seraphim Order Embassy
From: LRR Ministry of Forigen Affairs
This is an outrage! You threaten the perfectly legitimate trade of a neutral nation on a whim? It is true that Xanthal used to sell ships to pirates- they sold ships to anyone who had the money. Your blame is irrational, because there is no link between this attack and LRR. You are simply trying to scare us into a position of silence on the matter. Do you see us restricting your trade? No! You take simple diplomatic arguments far too seriously. And also, how do you see it fit to kill millions of Xanthalians in retaliation for an attack pirate organization which has not been supported by Xanthal for nearly a hundred years, and which caused very little damage and few casualties. If you want to look at things in a more "real" sense, let's look at the costs involved. A human being is worth around 2 million dollars, not counting the cost of education, welfare, hospital equipment, and other factors. If you estimate that you will kill "millions of Xanthalians," you will find that you, in the instance that you kill even one million Xanthalians, you will be costing Xanthal approximately 2^12 United States Dollars. This, we are certain, is far, far less than the costs of the repairs to the Clairmont station. If you view the situation from more of an eye-for-an-eye point of view, this would be like someone accidentally giving you a paper cut and you shoving them into an incinerator.
Lunatic Retard Robots
27-01-2004, 23:55
To: The Seraphim Order Embassy
From: LRR Ministry of Forigen Affairs
This is an outrage! You threaten the perfectly legitimate trade of a neutral nation on a whim? It is true that Xanthal used to sell ships to pirates- they sold ships to anyone who had the money. Your blame is irrational, because there is no link between this attack and LRR. You are simply trying to scare us into a position of silence on the matter. Do you see us restricting your trade? No! You take simple diplomatic arguments far too seriously. And also, how do you see it fit to kill millions of Xanthalians in retaliation for an attack pirate organization which has not been supported by Xanthal for nearly a hundred years, and which caused very little damage and few casualties. If you want to look at things in a more "real" sense, let's look at the costs involved. A human being is worth around 2 million dollars, not counting the cost of education, welfare, hospital equipment, and other factors. If you estimate that you will kill "millions of Xanthalians," you will find that you, in the instance that you kill even one million Xanthalians, you will be costing Xanthal approximately 2^12 United States Dollars. This, we are certain, is far, far less than the costs of the repairs to the Clairmont station. If you view the situation from more of an eye-for-an-eye point of view, this would be like someone accidentally giving you a paper cut and you shoving them into an incinerator.
We find your accusations toward us completely unwarranted! As you probably know, LRR has neither the will or ability to carry on a war with another nation alone or with allies, and it is, to take your method of paranoia and apply it to ourselves, just your way of proving grounds for conquest of LRR! There, a dose of your own medicine!
So please, use a little bit more restraint in this whole affair. A war is not appropriate to the situation.
To: LRR Ministry of Foreign Affairs
From: Sketchian DiploCorps
Subj: Diplomatic communications
Msg:
You speak of outrage. You claim that the Order seeks to restrict the trade of a "perfectly neutral nation on a whim". For our benefit, please note when and where suspension of trade was mentioned. Upon looking over various communiques and records, we can find nothing alluding to that action. What was suggested however, is that the LRR party take precautionary measures to avoid further agitating us - a task that you seem unable and unwilling to accomplish.
You also speak of "taking diplomatic arguments too far". It sounds as if you wish to say something and have it mean nothing. We are not here to deal with the petty ramblings of children. We are here to deal with the situation in a serious matter. If you have nothing meaningful to contribute, then you are nothing but an obstacle to be eliminated. Apparently, you are unwilling to deal with the gravity of the situation, constantly downplaying the Xanthalian responsibility whilst attempting to portray the Order as the aggressors. We take great personal offense to your little games. Remember, you were the one who got involved in something that was none of your business.
If the LRR leadership is unwilling to deal with the results of their incessant "diplomatic" griping, we suggest that you take a seat and refrain from further outbursts. We will tolerate the flatulent verbage issuing from your inept representatives no more.
ooc: just as a reminder to those who don't quite understand yet - the "nation" Seraphim Order Embassy is the official mouthpiece for the Order. Any messages sent to it are automatically received by all members. Individual members (such as myself in this case) may respond as they choose. But ulltimately, only that nation will "officially" speak for for the Order.
Seraphim Order Embassy
28-01-2004, 04:45
[Quantum Encryption - LLR Ministry of Forigen Affairs]
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Asking for limiting space craft movements during a heightened state of alert is hardly paranoia, but rather prudent. After all, if an LRR ship came too close to the Clairmont station at the present time it might be set upon. We would think that a temporary reduction on current trade routes would be beneficial for all concerned. Why is this so difficult to understand?
As well, we fail to see how you make a leap in "logic" from restricting your space craft movement to "proving grounds for conquest of LRR". Perhaps it is yourselves who suffer from paranoia. Again, it has been established that Xanthal has close links to pirate organizations. You even said in your own words that
You forget the fact that LRR has lost ships and citizens to pirate organizations supplied by Xanthalian companies, and were it not for Xanthal's descision to suspend sales and repay our damages, we would probably have been in your position right now.
The key word here being "suspend", which implies a temporary state of affairs. Essentially, for all anyone knows, sales to pirates could have very well resumed, one hundred year old practices nonwithstanding.
And forgive us for taking diplomatic arguments too seriously. When an Order member is attacked, we take the matter very seriously. How we react to the circumstances may be unpalatable to yourselves, but we reserve the right to seek whatever course of action we deem necessary. It would behove you to understand that simple truth.
As well, we still find it quite odd that Xanthal did not make any statement on the the Treaty of Hephaestus put forth by Eizen. Could it be that Xanthal wants war with the Order? Remember, it was the Order who put forth a treaty first, and not Xanthal. Perhaps you had best advise Xanthal to read over the treaty...soon.
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Order of the Seraphim (http://s2.invisionfree.com/Order_ofthe_Seraphim/index.php?act=idx)
OOC: We (that is, Order members) are hardly unreasonable BTW. If Xanthal is busy with real-life stuff, then of course that's fine. But a response of some kind would be appreciated.
OOC: Sorry everyone, my internet was down over the weekend and felt obligated to put some serious effort in on the first days of the new semester, so I wasn't able to get back until now. Seraphim Order Embassy (everyone affiliated with it), I'd like to just give you an OOC apology. I was a bit harsh back there. I do not regret my IC actions or their consequences, but I will use more discretion in the future with planned RPs. That all said, let's move on IC, shall we?
Lunatic Retard Robots: The elevator doors close and a slightwhiningnoisecanbe heard as the delegates are scanned for weapons and monitring devices. Finding them clean (I'm just assuming they didn't bring any?), the metal doors open into the reception area. It is sparsely furnished, but not uncomfortable. The secretary motions them through a side door.
Eizen: We agree to the Treaty of Hephaestus, and will sign it if the other parties involved agree to as well. Xanthal has not supported through supply or any other means pirates for many decades now, and though we still respect the rights and freedoms of outlaws, pirates in Xanthalian space are prosecuted whenever possible.
Everyone agrees!
Remember your promise Xanthal, out Intel Agencies will be watching to make sure you stick to your claims.
OCC: There its all over with between the Order and Xanthal, you got a pretty generous way out too.
Everyone agrees!
Remember your promise Xanthal, out Intel Agencies will be watching to make sure you stick to your claims.
OCC: There its all over with between the Order and Xanthal, you got a pretty generous way out too.
Lunatic Retard Robots
28-01-2004, 22:11
The idea was to get you to see the absurdity in your actions by doing it to you. :?
LRR will send a frigate squadron to disarm these pirates if it is Ok with Xanthal.
Eizen: OOC: I don't want a way out, I'm just doing what the Xanthalian government would do. After all, they already comply with most of the treaty's terms, and the others are easy to deal with. They are glad to apologize for the former government's actions, since it has no direct impact on them. They are willing to listen to Clairmont, since it was their station. They don't have any great investment in Clairmont, so it's okay if they can't go there. After all, it's only a small detour for most flights and, frankly, Clairmont can run its own transports to Xanthal if it needs things ferried back and forth, saving us money. Xanthal has no plans to sell weapons to illegitimate groups in the future, and if it does it will be much more discreet. In the mean time, they already eliminate all the criminal groups that they can in Xanthalian territory. Just don't expect a crackdown on outlaws. Their rights, as long as they do not impose on others, have been recognized. We didn't pay much attention to the order before now, and our values are incompatible so we'd probably never want to join. Finally, avoiding war was their primary goal all along.
Lunatic Retard Robots: It's fine, if you can find them. The Order spent so long blocking our efforts and delaying their own that the vessels in question have disappeared without a trace. We have no idea what they'll do next, nor where they'll do it. If you'd like to join our investigation it would be very helpful. You have more access to the attack site and sensor data then we do, but we have more background information than you. A joint effort might actually yeild results; working alone we doubt that we'll be able to find these criminals before they strike again.
Seraphim Order Embassy
29-01-2004, 05:32
OOC: I know all about the Internet being down. Had that happen to me a while ago. In regards to your earlier OOC actions and comments, if your big enough to fess up then we are big enough to put it behind us and move on as well. Hopefully, we all learned something.
IC:
[Quantum Encryption - Xanthal; Eizen]
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We agree to sign the The Treaty of Hephaestus. We urge you, Xanthal, that you abide by the treaty else you realize the full might of the Order.
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Order of the Seraphim (http://s2.invisionfree.com/Order_ofthe_Seraphim/index.php?act=idx)
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[Quantum Encryption - Lunatic Retard Robots]
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Your conduct in this whole affair has been filed for the archives. You shall be...watched.
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Order of the Seraphim (http://s2.invisionfree.com/Order_ofthe_Seraphim/index.php?act=idx)
Lunatic Retard Robots: It's fine, if you can find them. The Order spent so long blocking our efforts and delaying their own that the vessels in question have disappeared without a trace. We have no idea what they'll do next, nor where they'll do it. If you'd like to join our investigation it would be very helpful. You have more access to the attack site and sensor data then we do, but we have more background information than you. A joint effort might actually yeild results; working alone we doubt that we'll be able to find these criminals before they strike again.
ooc: you idiot, how did we inhibit our own efforts? Clairmonts station is secure, and we've fulfilled all of our objectives. Leave all Order nations out of this stupid RP of yours from now on.
You idiot, how did we inhibit our own efforts? Clairmonts station is secure, and we've fulfilled all of our objectives. Leave all Order nations out of this stupid RP of yours from now on.OOC: You spent the first critical hours focusing on us instead of the criminals, letting them slip away. Not that I blame you, that's what I expected to happen given the immediate evidence against us. Don't worry, I'm not planning to include you further here unless you want to stay.
ooc: aight dawgs, point set and made. Our work here is done. This is Xnathal's thread, we should let it be now.