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Syskeyian Embassy Riot (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=103865)

Trial of Syskeyians (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=109706)

**International Live Broadcast**

Voiceover: The Governor of Chimaea, Sir Reginald Styles

*Camera shows Sir Reginald sitting behind a desk, on which the Chimaean flag and the Baron flag are side-by-side*

Sir Reginald: Fellow nations,

I am sure that the world now knows of the crimes Iesus Christi has perpetrated in the name of justice. The live broadcast from their courtroom has been stark testimony to their failure to act in a reasonable, logical and fair manner with regards to the incidents that happened concerning the Syskeyian Embassy in St. Dominic.

Whatever the truth of that matter, there can be no doubt whatsoever of the reality of the Iesus 'witch-trial' that the Syskeyian Embassy staff was exposed to. A courtroom where hearsay was brought in as fact, where the defence counsel was doubted and threatened every step of the way, where a Bishop of Baron was arrested without cause to face an 'inqusition'; a Bishop who was a diplomat to Iesus.

The Iesus case against the Syskeyians was pure, unadulteraded nonsense. The defence counsels have torn apart the prosecution's case in every which way possible. And when the prosecution was clearly losing to any half-rational person, the Iesus judge ordered an act of murder.

Right in front of the live broadcast we were wittness to the horror of an Iesus soldier gunning down a Thelasian defence counsel, upon the direct orders of a judge of that court.

Iesus Christi and the Reich thinks that they can act without the slightest respect for international law. They believe that they can get away with any act, however cold-blooded and irrational. Their leaders, driven by an despotic insanity, really believe that they are invulnerable.

*Sir Reginald leans forward in his seat, staring directly at the camera*

We in the International Community has let Iesus Christi get away with so many unspeakable crimes. Always rumours of genocide and state-sponsored human rights abuse are left uninvestigated; always illegal acts of war such as the bombing of Amerigo cities with chemical weapons are left unpunished and ignored. Their conduct in war and in peace is unacceptable to anyone with any common sense and yet we have let them go.

There must be a line, however. There must be a line, drawn in the sand, where we must all take a stand. A line which must not be crossed... and during this trial, this line was crossed.

This far, no further.

It is because of this that the Empire of Baron issue the following ultimatum to the Reich:

1. That all Syskeyian prisoners must be returned to Syskeyia unharmed.

2. That all of the defence team must be returned to their respective nations, also unharmed.

3. That Bishop Aquinas and Sir Scott be returned to Baron, unharmed.

4. Restitution and an international apology be issued to Syskeyia for the loss of their Embassy and the crimes committed against them.

We join in the demands of of the Principality of Walking Carpets. This conditions of this ultimatum must be agreed to within three hours and must be met within forty-eight hours.

If this ultimatum is not met within the specified time, there will be no recourse but direct military action against the Reich.

We also request of any nations that support this action to contribute to a military action if this ultimatum isn't met. We call upon SATO specifically to aid us in this endeavour.

We encourage the Reich to agree with these conditions and follow the ultimatum. A war between us would be truly devastating.

However, the crimes against humanity that has been perpetrated will not go unnoticed this time.

Thank you for your time.

OOC: For anyone who hasn't seen the trial in question, it began around about here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=109706&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=44). Very interesting read. :)

Edit: myes, well this is pointless now.

OOC: You've got to admit, it's a pretty good Salem-like trial. :)

IC:

"Noted and monitored."

ic: Interesting......

ooc: Interesting

Edit: myes, well this is pointless now.

Does this mean this thread is now moot?

"This demands are ridiculous! The Syskeyians were spies, traitors of god, they stood against anything that is good and of value for us!

Their fate is to be punished for their crimes and NOTHING will stop the might of the Reich to enforce their rightful punishment upon them!

One Reich, one God, One Führer!"

~ Metatron

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ooc: a bit short & poor, but that happens when i`m doing three things at the same time... also a TAG to post with my SATO nation as well...

In DA, people were sort of... nervous.

The recent amount of conflicts, crisis... No, it wasn`t good. It most definitely wasn`t good.

However, direct help...

Logistical help, yes. Using the (few) spies they had in The Reich, yes...

But... full help? After all, there was a high possibility that they would get involved in the Indiastani civil war...

No, that wouldn´t be a good idea.

However, there weren´t any direct statements, nothing indicating any position of the government (Or of one of the government branches, for that matter) regarding the matter... nothing positive, since they wouldn´t be able to fulfill such promises, nor anything negative, since SATO`s position was sort of unknown.

Silence.

That was all there was...

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

---Edmund Burke

A reminder and a bump of sorts :)


Does this mean this thread is now moot?

No, he meant that his link was unnecessary; I'd edited the post with the links just before ;)

OOC: You forgot this thread. I'll leave it to Iesus to do the first blow

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2525792&highlight=#2525792

IC:

GOD IS GREAT! People of The Reich! Today the heathens are threatening us and telling us that our own justice system is inferior to theirs. Further more they are demanding that convicted felons as well as violent heretics be sent to their nations because they believe they can threat us! NO threats towards the proud Reich will be accepted! The criminals have been convicted in a fair trial and all could hear the Syskeyian lawyers claiming US to be heretics! threatening US with the wrath of god! Telling us in the face that he supports the devil and that he will cast our religion into the pits of hell given the chance. We have today increased our security, and preparing to launch an attack on our aggressors. In the case of an attack they will not be safe in their homelands. We have already prepared an attack on ANY nations that tries to attack. The war will be fought on their ground and the streets will flow with the blood of the unbeliever!

the 13:th and 7:th penal battalion was preparing for war. New coordinates were inserted in the computers and ranges were measured. The defense grid stepped up one notch in its security program.

OOC: Which reminds me, I'm mostly modern tech. Can we agree to keep it so?

#tag#

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia

Foreign Ministry public statement

We would like to repeat what the position that we have taken at the very start of this trial. We, again, urge the Iesus government to release the Syskeyian prisoners. They have been captured on embassy grounds, and as such should be tried under Syskeyian jurisdiction. The Knootian government would fully support a trial under Syskeyian law, in Syskeyia or a neutral country for the alleged crimes. A trial should always be fair.

Furthermore, we call on the Reich to ensure the safety of foreign citizens in their nation, including those members of the defence team of the trial.

The Knootian government feels that the means for backing up of the ultimatum as set by our Chimaean allies should be duly considered. Following the SATO position in this is vital to the actions of the DDR, but not a factor that will be fully decisive in choosing means to back up this ultimatum.

Lastly, we call on all parties to let diplomacy prevail with due consideration for humanitarianism and the intrinsic value of sentient life.

OOC: Say... who's leading SATO anyway? o.O I've lost track; didn't Lavenrunz step down?

IC

Aknowledging the words of Knootoss, we must point out the Chimaea is also open to diplomacy... However we will not flinch from doing what is right in these circumstances.

Having said that, negotiation is always preferrable to all-out conflict... specially taking in mind the gigantic proportions of such a conflict.

*International statement from the Prime Minister of Snuffopolis*

Friends - every nation which cherishes peace, justice and tolerance - I urge each of you to weigh carefully the actions of Iesus Christi.

Their judges threatened and abused diplomatic representatives from Chimaea and Walking Carpets; an insult to all of Baron. In a court of law, they mocked and derided all Elven-kind and every religion at odds with their own; an affront to the entire world. In an international trial, they disregarded every international legal protocol and murdered a defence lawyer of Thelas; an abuse and crime against Justice herself. And worst of all, their government aided and abetted the attack on the Syskeyian embassy; an act of war.

We in Snuffopolis pray that a peaceable resolution to this matter can be found; that the Reich would release the hostages from Syskeyia, Thelas, Walking Carpets and Chimaea, make a public apology for its wrongs and pay suitable restitution to the injured parties.

But if instead the powers of darkness rise in wrath, Snuffopolis will not shrink back into the night to hope that the morning will somehow come again. We will not be found wanting when the call to duty is heard! We will not abandon our friends and allies out of fear for our own safety!

We will confront intolerance, hatred and divisiveness with the mighty unity of all who share in their respect for sentient life! We will confront injustice, abuses of international law and crimes against humanity with the sharp sword of recompense so richly deserved! We will confront war-mongering, destruction and murderous blood-spilling with our iron determination to remove from power all who hate peace and rebuild a better, happier world!

*Parliamentary Speech by Fedrov Garcia, President of Clock Hill*

"...In the event of a decrease in the world trade markets.

"Now, Mr. Speaker, I would like to address an important issue... one which has no doubt been on the minds of all the people of Clock Hill.

"We have all wittnessed the travesty of justice that was the Iesus Christi trial of the Syskeyian Embassy staff; we've all heard their bogus claims, their hearsay evidence and their continual threats and insults towards representatives, diplomats, of the Empire of Baron.

"We saw the Iesus courtroom plunge into typical chaos as the judge ordered a murder, in front of an international live broadcast, of a defence counsel. These unfortunate people's only crime was to have a slightly less warped version of the Holy Bible; to have been born of an Elven race rather than a Human one.

"What we saw, Mr. Speaker, was a slap in the face of the international community. A slap in the face of the Empire of Baron. They have thrown down the gauntlet, their intentions are clear, their goals deadly. They wish war, Mr. Speaker! It is no less and no more, no harder and no simpler. They want blood. This is how Iesus Christi has always worked. From the chemical bombing of Amerigo cities to their questionable treatment of prisoners to their slaughter of innocent Ienotheisans, Iesus has painted their history in a scroll of blood.

"But they've made one mistake, and a mistake that will cost them deadly. They believe that we of Baron, and our allies, will fold when threatened. Well, I say this to the Reich powers that support Iesus in such a war: I know that the Empire of Baron has been peaceful of late, ghas pursued when possible the way of diplomacy but we do have teeth! And we do bite!"

*Applause from the House*

"Mr. Speaker, fellow members of parliament. I will swear this to you, with an unwavering strength: Clock Hill will stand by our Chimaean brothers, we will stand by the international community and if necessary, we will go to war!"

- tag -

No comment has been forthcoming over the incident in Iesus Christi, although privately the government is both not surprised and outraged at the break in diplomatic protocal at the same time.

Outraged at the horrors inflicted upon the innocents inside what was more of a execution setup then a murder case, we, the people, of the Colony of Cratership, demand that Iesus Christi and all those who support it comply with the demands set upon it by the people of Chimeae or face a possible trade embargo and/or rescue squad sent to save those peoples of other nations that are trapped within your borders.

Vice President Geoffrey Pelt issues a statement regarding the prisoner situation.

"It is the Federal Republic's stance that we stand by our SATO allies and the will of the international community. We join in their demand to call for the safe release of the Syskeyian prisoners as quickly as possible."

The Vice President refused any further comments or questions but assured the public that The Parliament is currently examining any further actions to be taken by the Federal Republic in the near future.

Texarnica, normally not involving itself with these matters, agrees with Aerigia. We are open for diplomacy, and would much rather have the safe return of the Diplomats, but we are NOT AFRAID TO USE FORCE.

Texarnican Marines have begun drilling and moving to port cities for transport ships. We reiterate, we are leaving the diplomatic course open. But we will answer the call of SATO and Syskeia, who befriended us in our youth.

We will begin communication with SATO commanders immediately.


#tag#

OOC: *tag*

Astarielle sat in her office idily musing over what would happen if butterflys inherited the earth. A buzz and a whirr were heard from the Fax machine. She read it. Sat bolt up right in her chair and in doing so knocking some wine onto the white carpet.

"Hysania!"

The door swung open and a tall, blonde elf ran into the room.

"Summon the council, and alert all of Eldamar to this" she said hurridly shoving the letter into the assistant's hands.

Astarielle sat in her office idily musing over what would happen if butterflys inherited the earth. A buzz and a whirr were heard from the Fax machine. She read it. Sat bolt up right in her chair and in doing so knocking some wine onto the white carpet.

"Hysania!"

The door swung open and a tall, blonde elf ran into the room.

"Summon the council, and alert all of Eldamar to this" she said hurridly shoving the letter into the assistant's hands.

IC: "Jesus H. Cobblestone!" Dmitri looked down. "What do we have going to Burma?"

"Essentially our Indian Ocean forces and a few reserves when we are successful," replied one advisor.

"What is the estimated strength of SATO?"

"Unorganised, sir. We do not know what our allied stance is."

"Very well, put as at Defcon 2 for the next few days. Continue with preperation for the Burman War, keep me posted."

Fellow Civilised Nations,

The Republican Council has been carefully observing the situation in Iesus Christi. It is clear that Iesus Christi has violated international law and international protocol. The actions of Iesus Christi's judges and representatives is to say the least heinous. The ignorant and unreasoning zeal Iesus Christi and their allies in the Reich are inhuman and are obviously only a tool to control and intimidate.

The Republican Council supports Chimea's demands. Iesus Christi have proven themselves to be below civilised manner and dealings and need to immediately repair their actions. The abhorrence of Iesus Christi's actions and crimes cannot be understated, and to commit such crimes in the name of piety is doubly abhorrent.

We in The Republican Council will support Chimea. We hope that a diplomatic soluton can be reached and that Iesus Christi rejoins civilised society. There can be no mistake made that Iesus Christi's seizing and trying of diplomats is an act of war. Chimea has shown considerable restraint, unlike Iesus Christi, and deserves the support of the international community.

Minister Of Foreign Affairs, Ilek-Vaad

A message, origonating from somewhere on the other side of the galaxy, came through,

"THe Loyaist government wishes to add this ultimatum, a sum of reparations, totaling 3,000,000 Menelmacari Credits, must be paid to the family of the Thelasi brutaly murdered by Reich staff.

We support the other members of this coalition, if it must come to war, we will be ready."

~Force Commander Isharin

OOC: Knoot, you do realise that this was an act of war against THelas, a Leiden signatory member... and this would activate the mutual defence clause of that treaty.

A message, origonating from somewhere on the other side of the galaxy, came through,

"THe Loyaist government wishes to add this ultimatum, a sum of reparations, totaling 3,000,000 Menelmacari Credits, must be paid to the family of the Thelasi brutaly murdered by Reich staff.

We support the other members of this coalition, if it must come to war, we will be ready."

~Force Commander Isharin

Far out in space, thre battlefleets started preparing for war.

OOC: Knoot, you do realise that this was an act of war against THelas, a Leiden signatory member... and this would activate the mutual defence clause of that treaty.

OOC: Knoot, you do realise that this was an act of war against THelas, a Leiden signatory member... and this would activate the mutual defence clause of that treaty.
OOC:
Actually, I had considered this and I talked it over with Siri, who is now in effect leading your nation... erm... province. According to her, you wouldn't have a foreign policy of your own.

Now, I was in doubt about this but this also means that all treaties you had as a sovereign nation would not be valid. We are, however, allied with the Eternal Noldorin Empire and will move by request of the Elentári. But this is only my humble interpretation of events.

Furthermore, I did believe there was this thread about Thelasi disarmament. So: battlefleets?

But that is only the legal side of things. It isn't an IC no. As for me giving help against the Reich or not: let's just say for the moment that I am involved with this roleplay. :P

OOC: I need to get IRC...

The fleet referenced were the fleets of the rebels that are now populating a small system on the OTHER side of the galaxy.

Technicaly, they are "true" Thelasi, in other words, Thelasi that are not under Menelmacari rule.

The law of God is the law of Iesus Christi and the Reich, nothing you say can change this.
Should you seek to turn your imperialistic forces onto the Reich, we will meet it with deadly force. We will then move and inflict onto the invaders what they would inflict upon us!

1. That all Syskeyian prisoners must be returned to Syskeyia unharmed.
By Order of the court, they will be put to death. This is the law, the law of God reigns here!

2. That all of the defence team must be returned to their respective nations, also unharmed.
They have been detained until we esablish their true natures.

3. That Bishop Aquinas and Sir Scott be returned to Baron, unharmed.
If after they are questioned , they are found to be non-satanic, they will be returned.

4. Restitution and an international apology be issued to Syskeyia for the loss of their Embassy and the crimes committed against them.
Negative, and we remind Syskeyia they owe us 100billion Dollars for the damage they caused.



ICN News
By Order of Matthew Iesus, General Darren Butler, Hero of Amerigo has been placed in command of Iesus defence forces.
The People are ordered to high alert, defend the fatherland! National Alert is declared!
Death to those who would rape and pillage Iesus Christi!
Long Live The People!

OOC: Well things are blowing up verbally but no one has fired a single bullet, I'd hate to see how the war turns out.

IC: Offical Government Response

"The Golden Paradiso Republic of Taligari wishes to announce that we will give what aid we can to support Chimaea and the nations that will go to war agianst the Neo-Nazi Reich. As a nation of peace however we will not send in troops or military equipment but if attack we will use our full military force agianst the aggressor


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President Alia Yia Atreus
”Don’t back people into a corner, not if you want them to remain peaceful.”- Alia Yia Atreus
The Golden Paradiso Republic of Taligari

Texarnica would like to reiterate its position on this crisis.

We demand the release of the prisoners, just as our comrades do. The killing of the civilians is simply HEINOUS! Texarnica is issuing large-scale deployments, and will be coordinating with the SATO leaders.

We resolve to have this end diplomatically by ALL MEANS NECESSARY. We wish for no bloodshed on either side, but we are NOT AFRAID to use force.


Also, we have other nations in my region that are on SATOs side.

The Heartland Coalition
Aerigia
Texarnica
Clearwater
Gothicum

Lord Christopher believes the courts of The Reich to be some of the most fair in the world. Perhaps none of this would have happened if there had been no spies in the first place. Perhaps if the initial crime were not committed by these SATO dogs, than no incident would have occoured. Perhaps a thought for everyone to consider.

Lord Christopher believes the courts of The Reich to be some of the most fair in the world.

:lol:

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia

Satanic? That's rich coming from a nation that has about the most blasphemous name ever recorded. Not even Hitler would have had the stones for that.

I have to admit, you are quite bold as you dare to go against the will of such a powerfull force as SATO (including me). Well i guess courage can drive a man to foolhardy actions.

*This is INNS, the Indiastan National News Service. And now, for today's headlines from Indiastan.

As a result of the Chimaean threats against Iesus Christi, President Hiren released the following statement -

"As President of a nation in these turbulent times, we certainly must weigh our decision carefully. We have seen the consequences poor decisons can have; what decisions that lead to war can have. We too haev been the victim of this brand of Chimaean aggression, and so our sympathies here lie with Iesus. We wonder, just what was an embassay of a SATO nation, Syskeyia, doing in a Reich nation? Are these two not implacable foes? Just what were the Syskeyians thinking? If anything, they provoked this entire incident by sticking their noses in where they were obviously not welcome. Syskeyia brought this onto themselves, and thus they should not be returned home. Neither do we believe that they shuold be sent home for trial, as the courts there will be hidiously impartial. No, it is our belif that they be sentanced in Iesus. Also, the Thelasan envoys are also not worthy of any sort of compensation because of their conduct and unfounded accusations. However, we do belive that the Baron and others should be released. They did not act in an untoward manner, and do not deserve to be lumped in with those Thelesan and Syskeyian criminals. Thank you." - Esana Hiren, President, United Indiastan

And in other news....

OOC: um, you haven't been victim to 'Chimaean brand aggression' yet. This is the present, your nation is in the future o.O

We wonder, just what was an embassay of a SATO nation, Syskeyia, doing in a Reich nation? Are these two not implacable foes? Just what were the Syskeyians thinking? If anything, they provoked this entire incident by sticking their noses in where they were obviously not welcome. Syskeyia brought this onto themselves, and thus they should not be returned home.

OOC:
Dude, you have EMBASSYS in other nations to help diplomatic relations. For instance, lets say one of your citizens travelled to that country, and suddenly was ACCUSED OF UNFAIR CRIMES THAT HAVE NO BASIS IN FACT. The safest place to go would be the Embassy, where they could then be removed frmo the country. It serves as a place of residence for Ambassadors who are trying to IMPROVE DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS. So, it seems pretty obvious why Syskeyia and Iesus would have Embassys in each others country.

Lets take another look on this in the Real World. During the Cold War, Russia and America had Embassys in each others countries. These embassys possibly saved the world, too! Remember when Russia sent a bunch of nukes down to Cuba? Who inevitably saved our asses by talking with the Kennedies? The AMBASSADOR to Russia, who lives in the EMBASSY.

So, Syskeyia was acting for the better, and then Iesus turns into the spoiled brat he does so good at acting as ICly, although i have heard many good things about him OOCly, and i think he RPs his assholishness real well.

The law of God is the law of Iesus Christi and the Reich, nothing you say can change this.
Should you seek to turn your imperialistic forces onto the Reich, we will meet it with deadly force. We will then move and inflict onto the invaders what they would inflict upon us!

1. That all Syskeyian prisoners must be returned to Syskeyia unharmed.
By Order of the court, they will be put to death. This is the law, the law of God reigns here!

2. That all of the defence team must be returned to their respective nations, also unharmed.
They have been detained until we esablish their true natures.

3. That Bishop Aquinas and Sir Scott be returned to Baron, unharmed.
If after they are questioned , they are found to be non-satanic, they will be returned.

4. Restitution and an international apology be issued to Syskeyia for the loss of their Embassy and the crimes committed against them.
Negative, and we remind Syskeyia they owe us 100billion Dollars for the damage they caused.



ICN News
By Order of Matthew Iesus, General Darren Butler, Hero of Amerigo has been placed in command of Iesus defence forces.
The People are ordered to high alert, defend the fatherland! National Alert is declared!
Death to those who would rape and pillage Iesus Christi!
Long Live The People!

"And what about the CARDINAL and BISHOPS that are about to be burned... we request that they be returned to Thelas imediatly, and unharmed."

~Force Commander Kethril of the Thelasi Resistance Forces

Fellow Nations,
It seems that Iesus Christi and their allies do not understand basic diplomacy. Since ancient times diplomats have been exchanged between nations, even nations at war. Diplomats from biblical times were even given safety in foreign lands. United Indiastan does not seem to grasp that nations that have tense rivalries have an even greater dependance on diplomats. Nations that have sealed their borders and may be on the brink of war HAVE NO OTHER way to communicate than diplomats.

This is why diplomats from ANY nation MUST be protected, and ARE protected by every known international treaty and convention. Nations that are civilised always begin dialogue by establishing diplomatic relations. It is absolutely unfathomable that after thousands of years of civilization and thousands of years of diplomacy, diplomats and the protection granted to diplomats that any nation would ask another nation to justify maintianing diplomats and embassies in any nation, including enemy one.

Diplomacy and diplomatic relations along with the creation of embassies is one of the BASIC functions of a government, I shudder to think in what manner the government of United Indiastan conducts itself or looks after it's people without even the most basic understanding of diplomacy.

Minister of Foreign Affairs, Ilek-Vaad

Fellow Nations,
It seems that Iesus Christi and their allies do not understand basic diplomacy. Since ancient times diplomats have been exchanged between nations, even nations at war. Diplomats from biblical times were even given safety in foreign lands. United Indiastan does not seem to grasp that nations that have tense rivalries have an even greater dependance on diplomats. Nations that have sealed their borders and may be on the brink of war HAVE NO OTHER way to communicate than diplomats.

This is why diplomats from ANY nation MUST be protected, and ARE protected by every known international treaty and convention. Nations that are civilised always begin dialogue by establishing diplomatic relations. It is absolutely unfathomable that after thousands of years of civilization and thousands of years of diplomacy, diplomats and the protection granted to diplomats that any nation would ask another nation to justify maintianing diplomats and embassies in any nation, including enemy one.

Diplomacy and diplomatic relations along with the creation of embassies is one of the BASIC functions of a government, I shudder to think in what manner the government of United Indiastan conducts itself or looks after it's people without even the most basic understanding of diplomacy.

Minister of Foreign Affairs, Ilek-Vaad

Yes, but clearly a nation should not abuse the status given to Ambassadors and make them spy. A crime was committed, and judged.

ooc, to the nation who stated that how could the riech take on sato is an idiot and a n00b

The Honourable Jebediah Johnsson will now proceed.
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"I understand the international community has objections to the Reich judges Rulings. They may very well have that. But remember that in The Reich , Reich law is the law working. I will point out that no international memebers of the teams attending the trial were diplomats, but lawyers and as such they do NOT enjoy diplomatic status, no more than any other foreigners commiting crimes in the Reich. It is sad that a defense team coming to defend the criminals does not respect the local culture and laws more than that. We Have found the Syskeyians guilty and the elves are obviously some kind of rogue terrorists and will therefore fall under the terrorist jurisdiction. Regarding the poor misguided bishop Aquinas and Lord Scott, they will be cared for so that they once more may walk with the lord in their own nations. Their minions, that obviously has stronger spirits than their leaders, will be sent home directly to their own nations."

Fellow Nations,
It seems that Iesus Christi and their allies do not understand basic diplomacy. Since ancient times diplomats have been exchanged between nations, even nations at war. Diplomats from biblical times were even given safety in foreign lands. United Indiastan does not seem to grasp that nations that have tense rivalries have an even greater dependance on diplomats. Nations that have sealed their borders and may be on the brink of war HAVE NO OTHER way to communicate than diplomats.

This is why diplomats from ANY nation MUST be protected, and ARE protected by every known international treaty and convention. Nations that are civilised always begin dialogue by establishing diplomatic relations. It is absolutely unfathomable that after thousands of years of civilization and thousands of years of diplomacy, diplomats and the protection granted to diplomats that any nation would ask another nation to justify maintianing diplomats and embassies in any nation, including enemy one.

Diplomacy and diplomatic relations along with the creation of embassies is one of the BASIC functions of a government, I shudder to think in what manner the government of United Indiastan conducts itself or looks after it's people without even the most basic understanding of diplomacy.

Minister of Foreign Affairs, Ilek-Vaad

Yes, but clearly a nation should not abuse the status given to Ambassadors and make them spy. A crime was committed, and judged.

ooc, to the nation who stated that how could the riech take on sato is an idiot and a n00b

Spying? I did not see spying among the charges, I saw, 'witchcraft' and other nonsensical charges, but spying or espionage did not appear to be among them.

The responce from THelas was simple, "Terrorists, you call my people terrorists. With no trial, with no judge or jury, you call them TERRORISTS?! As my satilites report, as we sit here and banter, my people are being led to be burned. I request at least that you halt this murder untill a formal trial can be made.

For the sake of God Almighty, those are Clergy. One is a Cardinal, the rest are Bishops, including the one that you shot! Think about it, would excomunication from the Catholic Church be worth the sake of the fulfillment of a political vendeta?"

~Force Commander Kethril

Saddened by these terrible events, and desirous to prevent further loss of life, we, as a neutral nation, offer neutral ground for this dispute to be peacefully resolved. We urge that all parties should be open to compromise.

We respectfully suggest that an independent, third-party court of law, Ribenese or other, should examine the matter at hand along the guidelines of international law.

With our best wishes for peace and preservation of life,


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HRM Queen Ayane Yoshiyama
Ruling monarch of Ribenia
Granddaughter of Shintaro the Wise
Descendant of Sakura the Radiant

The responce from THelas was simple, "Terrorists, you call my people terrorists. With no trial, with no judge or jury, you call them TERRORISTS?! As my satilites report, as we sit here and banter, my people are being led to be burned. I request at least that you halt this murder untill a formal trial can be made.

For the sake of God Almighty, those are Clergy. One is a Cardinal, the rest are Bishops, including the one that you shot! Think about it, would excomunication from the Catholic Church be worth the sake of the fulfillment of a political vendeta?"

~Force Commander Kethril
OOC: *Father Ted voice* Elvish Clergy? Priests with pointed ears? I've never heard of such a thing Dougal...
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This has been a goddarn double post.

With the growing hostilities between nations, and as a member of SATO, the Ruhrian Parlaiment has voted 49-51% on the issue and have decided to send a vessel from the Reserve fleet to Syskevia's immediate assistance.

The RNS St. Mary will be leaving its Cayenne, French Guiana home port to Syskevia's main harbour. The vessel is the latest addition to the Reservist Fleet, and holds 3,250 beds. This hospital ship should arrive in a week.

There is a note to the Syskevian Government in the Captain's Chair, since the vessel is on remote-control and has no crew. The quote says:

Good luck, F---tard. You are going to need it.

God Bless,
The Ruhrian Public

With the growing hostilities between nations, and as a member of SATO, the Ruhrian Parlaiment has voted 49-51% on the issue and have decided to send a vessel from the Reserve fleet to Syskevia's immediate assistance.

The RNS St. Mary will be leaving its Cayenne, French Guiana home port to Syskevia's main harbour. The vessel is the latest addition to the Reservist Fleet, and holds 3,250 beds. This hospital ship should arrive in a week.

There is a note to the Syskevian Government in the Captain's Chair, since the vessel is on remote-control and has no crew. The quote says:

Good luck, [censored]. You are going to need it.

God Bless,
The Ruhrian Public

OOC: http://community.the-underdogs.org/smiley/angry/mad4.gif Ooh, some ally you are, all too ready to provoke a needless war with Aperin but when one of your allies is in mortal danger, you act stupid and go on with your little Burma war. Sheesh.

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia

Iesus Christi, if you have any sense left you will realize that this is pointless. You are holding people on ludicrous and unfounded charges with almost no international support. All you are doing is further degrading you and your people in the eyes of the world. The only chance of remedying this situation is if you release those poor people and submit to the other demands against you.

We would also like to issue a statement of support to the hostages and their families as well as to our allies who are struggling to work against this lunatic government.

With the growing hostilities between nations, and as a member of SATO, the Ruhrian Parlaiment has voted 49-51% on the issue and have decided to send a vessel from the Reserve fleet to Syskevia's immediate assistance.

The RNS St. Mary will be leaving its Cayenne, French Guiana home port to Syskevia's main harbour. The vessel is the latest addition to the Reservist Fleet, and holds 3,250 beds. This hospital ship should arrive in a week.

There is a note to the Syskevian Government in the Captain's Chair, since the vessel is on remote-control and has no crew. The quote says:

Good luck, [censored]. You are going to need it.

God Bless,
The Ruhrian Public

OOC: http://community.the-underdogs.org/smiley/angry/mad4.gif Ooh, some ally you are, all too ready to provoke a needless war with Aperin but when one of your allies is in mortal danger, you act stupid and go on with your little Burma war. Sheesh.

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia

Bwahahahahhaahhaahhahahahhahaahahhahahahahahahahahahahaha.

If we may interject into these proceedings...

First of all:

1. The Baron defence team were indeed diplomats of Baron. Those are the terms that were put down in the trial, and those are the terms they came to Iesus. We would not send them as anything else.

2. As has been stated, Iesus Christi is now illegally holding Baron and Allied diplomats hostage. They are also murdering innocent Syskeyians and Thelasians. This is an act of war, and if necessary we will reply in kind.

3. It is not a question of whether the Reich recognises their own legal system. We are sure they do. However, the international community does not; and when said legal system threatens the stability of the entire region one must ask oneself whether it is really worth it.

OOC: You'll have to give me a bit of time with this one, I'm in the middle of moving house and all that stuff... so yeah. Be good.

1. The Baron defence team were indeed diplomats of Baron. Those are the terms that were put down in the trial, and those are the terms they came to Iesus. We would not send them as anything else.

Iesus has not Issued non-reich nations diplomatic passports for over 50 years , they may beleive they were diplomats but no such status was given them.

2. As has been stated, Iesus Christi is now illegally holding Baron and Allied diplomats hostage. They are also murdering innocent Syskeyians and Thelasians. This is an act of war, and if necessary we will reply in kind.

The Thelasians and Syskeyians are criminals, and have been judged.
We can confirm at this time the Thelasians are already facing their eternal judgement before God.
The baron etc are not hostages, but are undergoing investigation. We hope they shall be released soon.(assuming they are free of satanic influence)

3. It is not a question of whether the Reich recognises their own legal system. We are sure they do. However, the international community does not; and when said legal system threatens the stability of the entire region one must ask oneself whether it is really worth it.

If you didnt accept out laws, why did you send a defence team? This is classic Western imperialism.
The reich accepts only Gods law, any nation seeking to change this will meet lethal response. We pledge total war to any invader!
Rivers of blood will flow should anydare assualt the fortress of God!
God does not bow before the law of man!

OOC: um, you haven't been victim to 'Chimaean brand aggression' yet. This is the present, your nation is in the future o.O

Time is fluid here. As we never fought, and tech was never discussed, I don't really see the point here.

-snip-

Yeah, did Iesus give the go-ahead to a Syskeyian embassy? Governments don't have the right to just decided "Hey, today I'm going to put an embassy here!" like this is world monoply. The host government has to approve. And somehow I doubt that, if asked, Iesus or another Reich nation would have approved. That's like Menelmacar putting an embassy in Arda. It just dosen't make sense. Oh, and come on, have some guts and make an IC responce. That was an IC statement. Cheers.

-Indy

Fellow nations, I would implore all those who have access to the SATO forum to read the topic concerning this conflict, there is a very important point there and I do not wish to post details here.

Tex, just a little point: try to avoid excessive use of CAPITAL LETTERS without the proper MORAL AUTHORITY of CAPITAL LETTERS.

Also:

So, it seems pretty obvious why Syskeyia and Iesus would have Embassys in each others country.

If they agreed on it in advance, yah.

Lets take another look on this in the Real World. During the Cold War, Russia and America had Embassys in each others countries. These embassys possibly saved the world, too! Remember when Russia sent a bunch of nukes down to Cuba? Who inevitably saved our asses by talking with the Kennedies? The AMBASSADOR to Russia, who lives in the EMBASSY.

But did that embassy appear in Russia just because America said so? Hell no, it got there because of mutual agreements and a hell of a lot of diplomatic legwork. Saying 'I have an embassy there because I think I would have' isn't roleplay. You have to ask.

So, Syskeyia was acting for the better, and then Iesus turns into the spoiled brat he does so good at acting as ICly, although i have heard many good things about him OOCly, and i think he RPs his assholishness real well.

You missed the 'Syskeyia commits political suicide by opening fire on a civilian crowd before asking the local security forces for help in a flagrant breach of international law' part.

I am not a member of SATO, nor of the Reich either. However, Syskeyia is a member of my region, and i have been watching the proceedings of this farce these few days. And although i cannot claim to speak for my region, as the monarch of my country, i hereby pledge the support of my country for Syskeyia, and if Iesus Christi shall continue with their heinous crimes, i shall also pledge the support of my greatly advanced technology air force. Under my command, my fighters shall assist in air support shall a war ever take place. Iesus Christi will rue the fact that their anti-air weaponry is inadequate to deal with the might of my aircraft. And shall Iesus Christi turn his forces upon me, or his forces threaten to overrun Syskeyia, his country will die under the full force of a series of thermonuclear blasts.

Iesus Christi, you have been warned. Desist in your deluded attempts. Return all the victims and apologize publicly, or........things may happen.

You missed the 'Syskeyia commits political suicide by opening fire on a civilian crowd before asking the local security forces for help in a flagrant breach of international law' part.

OOC: Actually, I checked the thread and the mob had thrown molotov cocktails into the embassy grounds before the Syskeyians fired.

Honestly.

God bless,

Ther Republic of Syskeyia

Iesus Christi, if you have any sense left you will realize that this is pointless. You are holding people on ludicrous and unfounded charges with almost no international support. All you are doing is further degrading you and your people in the eyes of the world. The only chance of remedying this situation is if you release those poor people and submit to the other demands against you.

We would also like to issue a statement of support to the hostages and their families as well as to our allies who are struggling to work against this lunatic government.

Hear,hear.

You missed the 'Syskeyia commits political suicide by opening fire on a civilian crowd before asking the local security forces for help in a flagrant breach of international law' part.

OOC: Actually, I checked the thread and the mob had thrown molotov cocktails into the embassy grounds before the Syskeyians fired.

Red Herring fallacy: Point out where in that statement I said or implied that the Syskeyian soldiers in the embassy fired for no reason. The fact that they fired on an apparently lightly-armed crowd of foreign nationals without first making a request for assistance to the Iesus security forces in the area is the violation; it was also a direct insult to Iesus Christi's ability to police St. Dominic effectively [as was the presence of so many soldiers in the first place].

The Empire of Lavenrunz will not support the claims of Syskeyia when they had submitted themselves to justice in Iesus Christi in the first place. It is entirely the responsibility of a government with an embassy in a foreign country to attempt to establish good relations with that government.
Chimaea and Syskeyia are attempting to force the issue of war, and seem to believe they will be supported when in fact there was no attempt to consult with allies.
Furthermore, insofar as the Empire is aware, there has been no resolution in SATO and no instructions have been given to any RDF Commanders-in-Chief.
The nations involved are strongly urged to permit the mediation of a neutral party to avoid the shedding of blood in this matter which is, however disturbing, principally a matter of sovereignty in St. Dominic and Iesus Christi.

Count Mirbach
Chancellor of Lavenrunz

The Commonwealth wishes to correct certain issues that have arisen from the Lavenrunz statement...

1. We did indeed consult with our allies and all interested parties. Naturally we did not make public any consultations and requests for support, but we have a sizeable pledge of support from other nations.

2. It is indeed the responsibility of the Embassy to foster good relations. However, even after the Syskeyian Ambassador offered to mediate with the rioting crowd that was outside the Embassy, it was still attacked. We do not believe that Syskeyia is in any way responsible for what occurred in St. Dominic. The Reich has a history of creating propaganda to suit their aims and this is yet another slap in the face of the international community as they continue to flaunt their policies of gross violations of human rights, international law and common sense. We wonder if Lavenrunz has fogotten Ienotheisa already?

3. Any claim that we are forcing the issue of war is ludicrous. Chimaea was called into help when a valuable and trusted ally's Embassy was viciously attacked. We tried to resolve this peacefully by sending diplomats of legal learning to the Iesus trial, where they were threatened and mocked, where the judges were biased in favour of a bloodthirsty and illogical prosecution. Now those same diplomats are under arrest in all but name. Chimaea considers these events acts of war. In the circumstances, we feel we have shown remarkable restraint in even offering an ultimatum.

4. We requested SATO aid. Whether SATO gives this aid is up to them. We have the capability and popular support to carry through with military action.

Blood has already been shed in this matter. The Thelasian defence counsels were burned to death in a disgusting state-sanctioned execution. The Syskeyian Embassy staff await a similiar fate.

We note that Lavenrunz seems to have a strong leaning towards the Reich position on this matter... We hope that they too will take a stand on this matter; however we bear the Empire no ill-will.

We welcome any attempts at a diplomatic suggestion; furthermore we invite Reich diplomats to attend a round-table discussion on this matter. War is never a welcome thing in anybody's lives and we hope that an agreement may be achieved. However nothing can be achieved if any Baron or Syskeyian diplomats are harmed.

~Chimaean Foriegn Ministry

To The Principality of Walking Carpets, The Peoples Republic of Audremen here-by pledges full milltary support. My nation is located in South Easy Asia. The following military support is at your disposal:

Air Force -
12 Dozen - F-15E Strike Eagle
6 Dozen - A-10 Thunderbolt II
25 - B-52 Stratofortress
10 - FB-111
5 - E-3 Sentry (AWACS
6 Dozen
JAS 39 Gripen
F-15c
F-117a Nighthawk
AH-1F Cobra
AC-130
Cruise Missiles
A-10
B-2 Bombers (A.K.A Air Plane Wing)
KC-135 Tanker
Gunman F14 Tomcat
Commanche Attack Helicopter

Mechanized Hardware -
5000 Iron Cheetah Export
5000 Sabra MBT (M60 upgrade)
2000 LAV-15
1500 LAV-AT (Anti-Tank)
3000 M61 Ontos II
1000 M88A2 Hercules Recovery Vehicle
500 M2001A1 Crusader
8000 G5 towed howitzer
500 AN/TPQ-36 Firefinder Radar
200 LAV-CC (Command & Control)
300 LAV-MEWSS (Mobile Electronic Warfare Support System)
4000 7-Ton Truck Series (long version)

An additional 150,000 troops are noow on active standby.

In the name of the Emperor, his Imperial Majesty Terranix VII of the House of Valthurak, we would warn against our Chimaean neighbour's rashness in interfering with the affairs of our honourable allies in the Reich.

Surely you would not want to risk once more bringing bloodshed to Baronial soil?

~Arkhan Steele

With most respect to the views of his Imperial Majesty and Mr. Steele, we are not about to fold on this matter. The Reich has violated international law and delivered a slap in the face of Baron in its entirety and we are surprised that Rhaken Kull would take such an approach towards this situation.

Sometimes, to keep distant fires off our own roofs, we must burn the area around an inferno. Sometimes there is only one choice.

However Chimaea will not shy away from a peaceful resolution to this crisis, if the Reich is willing.

~Phillip Achefield

I would like to assure you, Mr. Achefield, the Empire of Rhaken Kull has not been slapped in the face by anyone in either a physical or political capacity since before the Raeloanian Incident. That you should trundle out so outdated & irrelevant a concept as "international law" to back up your statements with the world in its present condition is laughable in the extreme.

You are foolish to suppose that the Empire would take any stance other than the one it maintains at present, in light of the military alliance between itself & Iesus. I would submit that you are not keeping a fire from spreading, but instead running the risk of kindling a new one on your very doorstep.

~Arkhan Steele

"Once again it seems that this horrid matter has been brought to my attention. As I was the Force Commander in charge of this situation, before my rise to the position of Empress, it seems fitting that once again I would have to deal with this most horrid and disgusting matter. I strongly urge the Reich to agree to our most generous terms. All we wish is for peace and justice, something that the people in the Reich will understand.

A war would bring destruction upon both our peoples. Christian blood would be spilled, not by the non-beleivers, but by other Christians. I urge the Reich to prevent this, I urge them not to follow the path of war and destruction, a path that will lead to their own demise."

~Empress Ithenril

"I hope that the Reich gives in, a war like the one which is about to follow could kill millions if not billions, and negotiates. Yet I doubt that they will negotiate, I just hope our millitary is finished before war brakes out."

~Personal Diary of Empress Ithenril

TAG for later IC comment.
Damn RL interfering with my RPing!!! :evil:

I would like to assure you, Mr. Achefield, the Empire of Rhaken Kull has not been slapped in the face by anyone in either a physical or political capacity since before the Raeloanian Incident. That you should trundle out so outdated & irrelevant a concept as "international law" to back up your statements with the world in its present condition is laughable in the extreme.

You are foolish to suppose that the Empire would take any stance other than the one it maintains at present, in light of the military alliance between itself & Iesus. I would submit that you are not keeping a fire from spreading, but instead running the risk of kindling a new one on your very doorstep.

~Arkhan Steele


Outdated and irrevelent to you, Mr. Steele, but a living breathing reality for us. Rhaken Kull and the Reich might not indeed believe in international law, but rest assured that international law believes in you.

I submit to you, and your Emperor, that any use of force against a Baron nation, or a Chimaean ally, will be considered a direct declaration of war on Chimaea and we shall react accordingly.

Make no mistake. Chimaea may largely be devoted to peace but we are a force to be reckoned with in war.

~Phillip Achefield

(OOC: Achefield is the Prime Minister of Chimaea)

You have been given your warning, Achefield. That is all I am obliged to give.

Be careful how you go.

~Arkhan Steele


((OOC: Steele is the official Minister for Foreign Affairs, & a Lord in one of the Empire's lesser Houses.))

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Getting off a regular flight from Harknessia in Syskeyiapolis is a very strange figure indeed.

Swathed from head to toe in an all-enveloping, hooded black cape, the tall figure has spoken not a word the entire flight. It(?) carries no baggage.

When the flight arrives in Syskeyiapolis, it shuffles off the plane, and waits quietly in line at customs/immigration.

Upon arriving at customs/immigration, the robe twitches for a moment. Then a pale, very white, six-fingered hand extends a document case to the inspector.

The first document in the case is an official passport from The Anonymous Lepers, sealed with the official seal (a clutching hand overlaid on a starburst,) and signed personally by Eldrad the Supreme. It identifies the carrier as "Leper 1273996-P." And, sure enough, tatooed in glowing green ink on the inside of the pale wrist is the number: 1273996-P

The second document is a travel pass stamped by the Harknessian authorities. The third document is imprinted on thick, creamy paper with the Anonymous Lepers seal embossed into it. It is headed "Travel Pass" and states that Leper 1273996-P is authorized to leave Anonymous Lepers for no longer than twelve days, in order to carry out authorized commercial business for the AL Logistics and Munitions Company. The last document is sealed in an envelope of that same curiously thick, creamy paper, labelled "For Military Review Only: Security."

As the inspector looks over the documents, a voice issues from the depths of the hood. "If you are required to search me, I am very willing. I am of course unarmed. However, I would ask only that it be done in privacy." The voice is a warm, rich, liquid baritone, pleasant and appealing.

All Anonymous Lepers know that the reaction of non-mutant humans to their appearance is often one of visceral revulsion, suspicion, and fear. But they have heard that a war is brewing in Syskeyia, and it seems an excellent opportunity to establish some commercial ties.

OOC: so,capitalism IS a disease! ;)

A ultimatum to the reich is laughable

All is dust before the might of God

Hattia is declaring our neutrality in this conflict and urging both sides to exhaust all peaceful measures before resorting to war.

Copiosa Scotia will join its ally Ilek-Vaad in backing the Chimaean ultimatum, and will not hesitate to use military force should it prove necessary. Iesus Christi's sham trial of these diplomats is a blatant breach of international law and a clear act of war.

- Sophia Kahler, Secretary of Foreign Affairs.

OOC: For some reason, I read that as saying you'll "block the Chimaea ultimatum" whilst condemning Iesus lol. Yeah I'm insane.

Anyway, because of my changing online/offline status, we're going to take a different direction in this war. Details soon, it's gonna be very interesting indeed :)

However the ultimatum still stands >.<