NationStates Jolt Archive

"We are looking for Russian Aircraft carriers such as the Kiev or Kuznetsov class carriers. we may be able to use British RO5 Invincable Class carriers."

~Department of the Navy

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You couldnt have named three more crappier class of Carriers in the world? What is your navy going for last rate?

Admiral Theodore Fitzpatrick
Federal Republic Navy
Federal Republic of New York and New Jersey

You couldnt have named three more crappier class of Carriers in the world? What is your navy going for last rate?

Admiral Theodore Fitzpatrick
Federal Republic Navy
Federal Republic of New York and New Jersey

"Then what would you recomend, Admiral Arse?"

several men laughed at the General's comment.

OOC: No harm ment 8)

Not insulting an Admiral of a Naval Group, with enough Marines and equipment attached to over run your nation, firstly. Secondly, a Forrestal or modified Midway with angled Deck and Steam Catapults would be FAR superior to those VTOL Carriers you wanted.

Admiral Theodore Fitzpatrick
Federal Republic Navy
Federal Republic of New York and New Jersey

Not insulting an Admiral of a Naval Group, with enough Marines and equipment attached to over run your nation, firstly. Secondly, a Forrestal or modified Midway with angled Deck and Steam Catapults would be FAR superior to those VTOL Carriers you wanted.

Admiral Theodore Fitzpatrick
Federal Republic Navy
Federal Republic of New York and New Jersey

OOC: i don't really like US Carriers. don't know why at all.

IC: Possibly, but what is your opinion of the French Charles de Gaulle class?

[quote="The Ontario Northlands"]

"Then what would you recomend, Admiral Arse?"
[quote]

Heh, heh, heh.

Please don't destroy me.

Not insulting an Admiral of a Naval Group, with enough Marines and equipment attached to over run your nation, firstly. Secondly, a Forrestal or modified Midway with angled Deck and Steam Catapults would be FAR superior to those VTOL Carriers you wanted.

Admiral Theodore Fitzpatrick
Federal Republic Navy
Federal Republic of New York and New Jersey

"you are talking about Supercarriers. we are talking about something we can aford without spending half our budget."

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Kreml class

Specifications

Designer: Nevskoye Planning and Design Bureau
Builder: Nikolayev South
Displacement (tons): 43,000 tons light
53,000-55,000 tons standard
66,600-67,500 tons full load
Speed (kts): 32 knots
Dimensions (m): 302.3-306.45 meters long overall
270.0-281.0 meters long at waterline
35.4-38.0 meters beam
72.0-73.0 meters width overall
9.14-11.0 meters draft
Propulsion: 2 x 50'000 hp gas. turbines; 8 boilers; 4 fixed pitch props., turbogenerators 9 x 1500 kW, diesel gen. 6 x 1500 kW; range: 3'850 n.m/32 kts; endurance: 45 days
Crew: 1960 + 626 air group + 40 flag
3857 rooms
Armament:
Airwing: 16 x Yak-141
12 aircraft SU-27k or MIG-29k
4 /Helicopter KA-27LD32
18/KA-27PLO
2/KA-27S
Missiles: 12 Granit (SS-N-19)
SA Klinok ADAM system (24 launchers, 192 vertical launch missiles; rate of fire: 1 missile per 3 sec)
SA Kashtan ADGM system (256 AD missiles, 48'000 cartiges; range: 0.5- 1.5 km)

Guns: 8 x 6 AK-630 gattl. AA
(6x30 mm; 6'000 rds/m/mount, 24000 cartiges)
Electronics: Combat Information Center
Aviation Combat Information Center
communications suite including satellite communications
MR-710 Fregat-MA/Top Plate 3D Air/Surface Search
2 MR-320M Topaz/Strut Pair 2D Air/Surface Search
3 Palm Frond Navigation
4 MR-360 Podkat/Cross Sword SA-N-9 Fire Control
8 3P37/Hot Flash SA-N-11 Fire Control
Fly Trap B Aircraft Control
Zvezda-2 search and attack sonar [medium and low frequency bands]
MGK-345 Bronza/Ox Yoke hull mounted Sonars

price 800 million

Kiev class

Specifications
Designer: Nevskoye Planning and Design Bureau
Builder: Chernomorsky [Nikolayev South]
Displacement (tons): 36,000 tons standard
38,000 tons standard [Gorshkov]
43,000-43,500 tons full load
45,000-45,500 tons full load [Gorshkov]
Speed (kts): 32 knots
Dimensions (m): 249.5-257.0 meters long waterline
273.0-274.0 meters long overall
32.6-32.7 meters waterline beam
53.0 meters flight deck width
9.5 meters draft standard
12.0 meters draft mean full load
Propulsion: 8 turbopressurized boilers
4 steam turbines; 200,000 shp
4 shafts
Crew: 1,200-1,600 (including air group)
Armament:
Missiles: KIEV, MINSK 2 SA-N-3 Goblet twin launchers [72]
2 SA-N-4 Gecko twin launchers [40]
8 SS-N-12 Sandbox tubes [16]

NOVOROSSIYSK 2 SA-N-3 Goblet twin launchers [72]
12 SA-N-9 8-cell vertical launchers [96]
8 SS-N-12 Sandbox tubes [16]

GORSHKOV 24 SA-N-9 8-cell vertical launchers [192]
12 SS-N-12 Sandbox [24]



Guns: KIEV, MINSK, and NOVOROSSIYSK
4 76.2-mm/59-cal AA (2 twin)
8 30-mm/65-cal AK-630 close-in (8 multi-barrel)

GORSHKOV
2 100-mm/70-cal DP (2 single)
8 30-mm/65-cal AK-630 close-in (8 multi-barrel)


Torpedoes: 10 21-in (533-mm) torpedo tubes
Aircraft: 12 or 13 Yak-38 Forger VSTOL
14 to 17 Ka-25 Hormone or Ka-27/29 Helix

price 650 million

NYNJ: The Kuzentsov is not VTOL :)

TNO: Besides, the current Russian carrier(the Kuznetsov) is outdated. You'd better use the Ulyanovsk class design. Its modern, high tech, better and... Russia doesn't have the means to build them :cry:

Kreml class

Specifications

Designer: Nevskoye Planning and Design Bureau
Builder: Nikolayev South
Displacement (tons): 43,000 tons light
53,000-55,000 tons standard
66,600-67,500 tons full load
Speed (kts): 32 knots
Dimensions (m): 302.3-306.45 meters long overall
270.0-281.0 meters long at waterline
35.4-38.0 meters beam
72.0-73.0 meters width overall
9.14-11.0 meters draft
Propulsion: 2 x 50'000 hp gas. turbines; 8 boilers; 4 fixed pitch props., turbogenerators 9 x 1500 kW, diesel gen. 6 x 1500 kW; range: 3'850 n.m/32 kts; endurance: 45 days
Crew: 1960 + 626 air group + 40 flag
3857 rooms
Armament:
Airwing: 16 x Yak-141
12 aircraft SU-27k or MIG-29k
4 /Helicopter KA-27LD32
18/KA-27PLO
2/KA-27S
Missiles: 12 Granit (SS-N-19)
SA Klinok ADAM system (24 launchers, 192 vertical launch missiles; rate of fire: 1 missile per 3 sec)
SA Kashtan ADGM system (256 AD missiles, 48'000 cartiges; range: 0.5- 1.5 km)

Guns: 8 x 6 AK-630 gattl. AA
(6x30 mm; 6'000 rds/m/mount, 24000 cartiges)
Electronics: Combat Information Center
Aviation Combat Information Center
communications suite including satellite communications
MR-710 Fregat-MA/Top Plate 3D Air/Surface Search
2 MR-320M Topaz/Strut Pair 2D Air/Surface Search
3 Palm Frond Navigation
4 MR-360 Podkat/Cross Sword SA-N-9 Fire Control
8 3P37/Hot Flash SA-N-11 Fire Control
Fly Trap B Aircraft Control
Zvezda-2 search and attack sonar [medium and low frequency bands]
MGK-345 Bronza/Ox Yoke hull mounted Sonars

price 800 million

Very interesting. not only is this Carrier Capable of supporting our Bigmenistani-Constructed Aircraft, But it is fairly within our price range (Go take a look at our Military Budget if you don't beleave me). we would like to order 1.

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Very well then the ships is on the way and will arrive at you nearest naval port within the week. And if you ae in need of further military equipment in the future we would be glade toelp.