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HEREBY RESOLVED BY THE SOVEREIGN NATION OF CROWNGUARD:

That there is a shocking and marketed increase in hostility to so called "imperialist nations".

That the basis for such accusations and vilification is mostly groundless.

That a tyranny of the majority is no better, indeed worse, than a tyranny of a few.

That tyranny is not inherently "evil", as evidenced by numerous historical figures (Solon, the most memorable)

That democracy is a sham, and people in large groups take on a "mob mentality", leading to chaos, strife, and death.

That imperialism is the greatest tool of civilizing the known world.

SO BE IT RESOLVED:

A call to all nations to sign below in support of Imperialism

A rebuff of all attempts to demonize our respective intrigues and actions.

A liberation from the heavy-handed United Nations regulations, the fraudulent representive of "justice" on its own terms. That is not to say a call for removal fromt he United Nations, merely a disinterest and rebuttal in treasonous resolutions infringing on our people.

A call for fraternity, sorority, and general goodwill among respected signatory nations.

We sincerely hope that all imperial nations see the wisdom in joining this collaborative League.

In keeping with our respective nation's wishes: We will have no region, no regulations for joining, no voting, and no tools of communism and democracy. All that is required is a commitment to making Imperialism a good name once more, and the respect such a distinction deserves.

Bump for signatories!

Iansisle's parliament noted mild interest in this league at first - after all, their colonies in Gallaga and on the Gallagan Passage were a great source of embarrassment an international conferences. However, after it was noted that to take part in the League would require the abandonment of liberal ideals very close to Iansisle's heart, most reacted with shock, confusion, or repulsion.

"I never really realized that imperialism and democracy were mutually exclusive principles," said MP Louis Gerrand, a Unity Party-man from central Noropia. "Guess we've been doing it wrong for all these years. Huh."

"A most interesting document. We shall monitor this."

Seraphim Order Embassy

Iansisle's parliament noted mild interest in this league at first - after all, their colonies in Gallaga and on the Gallagan Passage were a great source of embarrassment an international conferences. However, after it was noted that to take part in the League would require the abandonment of liberal ideals very close to Iansisle's heart, most reacted with shock, confusion, or repulsion.

"I never really realized that imperialism and democracy were mutually exclusive principles," said MP Louis Gerrand, a Unity Party-man from central Noropia. "Guess we've been doing it wrong for all these years. Huh."


Ah..but you misunderstand...democracy in the context of one person, one vote. Else why have an Empire in the first place, to militarily conquer people who, in fact, may vote to secede, rebel or such? We give the people some measure OF democracy..but the system of government ISNT a democracy. If you let everyone decide, it would be utter chaos, anarchy. Also, they may vote to NOT expand, and where is your Empire?

Violeta Bi Bere's jaw dropped. "They want to do what?"

"Rehabilitate imperialism, and call it an influecne for good," her secretary replied.

"Goodness. What a bizarre notion, in this day and age. Better draft a statement."

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Independence is the right of all peoples. No people should be ruled against their will by another people. Imperialism is the imposition, by force, of the rule of one people over another. As a country that fought for our independence from imperialism, the people and government of Tanah Burung condemn imperialism and colonialism in all its manifestations, and call for independence and democracy to be permitted to all. Governments do not have rights. Only people have rights, and the right to self-determination is the highest of all rights.

Violeta Bi Bere
People's representative for foreign affairs & human rights

Swallow Bank House, Walmington Street, Great Walmington, Walmington on Sea

"Wilson! Has anyone ever tried to take away the empire?"
"Not since the Second Cape War in the twenties, Prime Minister..unless you count Russolini et al."
"Ah, yes, Sir Henry showed them what for, eh? And Weisel the fascists."
"Mh, yes sir."
"So why the devil is everyone else so good at drawing negative publicity? These damn confrontationalists will be the death of us!"

Evidently Mainwaring had found another nation for his "View with patronising disdain" folder as Crownguard apparently did its level best to bring confrontationalism back to the fore around empires such as Walmington's.

Leave well enough alone! The PM mused.

Ah..but you misunderstand...democracy in the context of one person, one vote. Else why have an Empire in the first place, to militarily conquer people who, in fact, may vote to secede, rebel or such? We give the people some measure OF democracy..but the system of government ISNT a democracy. If you let everyone decide, it would be utter chaos, anarchy. Also, they may vote to NOT expand, and where is your Empire?

Sir, I think it may in fact be you who misunderstands the principle of Empire. It is not some single-handed enterprise to deprive others of their liberty; rather, it is a noble crusade to bring the light of civilization into the dark places of the world.

When the first Company trading vessels appeared off the Gallagan coast, they beheld a backwards country. Internecine tribal wars bloodied the people; the fields sat untilled; the rivers unnavigated; the mineral deposits unmined; their people oblivious to the word of God. It was us who put an end to the violence; it was us who made the countrymen productive; it was us who attempted to save their souls.

Is Gallaga ready for democracy? The answer is a resounding yes - already, the cities elect representatives to a Gallagan Congress, which assembles biyearly in Nusheld to discuss matters of import and advise Company officials. Someday, it may even be ready for the liberty of a full-fledged Dominion within the Commonwealth.

However, the basic point remains: only evil, undemocratic nations undertake imperialistic adventures for their own profit. We undertake it solely for the betterment of those within our territory.

Good day!

Sir Edward Tedders
Sixteenth Executor of the East Gallaga Company

(ooc: oh, well done, sirrah! very Lord Curzon, eh wot?)

you[/i] who misunderstands the principle of Empire. It is not some single-handed enterprise to deprive others of their liberty; rather, it is a noble crusade to bring the light of civilization into the dark places of the world.

Is Gallaga ready for democracy? The answer is a resounding yes -
We undertake it solely for the betterment of those within our territory.

Good day!

Sir Edward Tedders
Sixteenth Executor of the East Gallaga Company

Statements like these greatly sadden my government. While we are but a small nation, we still understand nonsensical rationalizations of Imperialists. If your government truly cared about the Gallagan people, you would have helped them stand on their own two feet. You would not have tried to prop them up after you force them into your clothes.

You speak of freedom of choice and of caring about your citizens. Yet you forced your religion, morals, your beliefs upon these ignorant people. You told them their way of life was wrong. Instead of trying to help them change, you conquered them. I glad your guilt is allowing them some small step towards autonomy, but do not let that delude you into thinking you are any less Imperialistic than Crownguard.

My government does not believe it is our place to tell you how to run your empire. Your actions are your own. However, we politely request that you take credit for your own tyrannies and not dress them up as assistance.

Chief Raging Antelope
The Most Serene Republic of Tribal Gods
Member, International Council of Tribal Nations

Ah..but you misunderstand...democracy in the context of one person, one vote. Else why have an Empire in the first place, to militarily conquer people who, in fact, may vote to secede, rebel or such? We give the people some measure OF democracy..but the system of government ISNT a democracy. If you let everyone decide, it would be utter chaos, anarchy. Also, they may vote to NOT expand, and where is your Empire?

Sir, I think it may in fact be you who misunderstands the principle of Empire. It is not some single-handed enterprise to deprive others of their liberty; rather, it is a noble crusade to bring the light of civilization into the dark places of the world.

When the first Company trading vessels appeared off the Gallagan coast, they beheld a backwards country. Internecine tribal wars bloodied the people; the fields sat untilled; the rivers unnavigated; the mineral deposits unmined; their people oblivious to the word of God. It was us who put an end to the violence; it was us who made the countrymen productive; it was us who attempted to save their souls.

Is Gallaga ready for democracy? The answer is a resounding yes - already, the cities elect representatives to a Gallagan Congress, which assembles biyearly in Nusheld to discuss matters of import and advise Company officials. Someday, it may even be ready for the liberty of a full-fledged Dominion within the Commonwealth.

However, the basic point remains: only evil, undemocratic nations undertake imperialistic adventures for their own profit. We undertake it solely for the betterment of those within our territory.

Good day!

Sir Edward Tedders
Sixteenth Executor of the East Gallaga Company


You misunderstand our nation as well. We do not conquer for mere rapacious greed (though that could easily be done). No, we conquer to bring enlightenment to savage and backward nations around us, thrust into anarchy, wretchedness, and despair. We are not some tin-pot dictatorship you assume us to be. There is a definite disparity between happiness and liberty...look about you! People with too many choices become distraught, overwhelmed and depressed. When gently guided to a place tailored for them, they thrive. Too much liberty breeds decadence, and it is only when each person finds there niche, are they truly happy. We bring this to others as well, we do not "enslave" or exploit them, but slowly supplant a backwards culture with our own, and integrate it.

You call it evil, merely because you don't understand. There is no "evil", there is only people. Democracy is not inherently good, nor is tyranny inherently evil. Such nations who give such distinctions amuse us, merely because they misunderstand another culture. Or will you, in fact, invade us because we are different? Liberate our people? Dont make us laugh.

The WBC aired a discussion on the issue of negative sentiment towards empire-holding states.

Baron Alan Thunder-ten-tronckh, noted friend of Sir Henry Chaspot Wayne, tamer of Africa, was one participant with much to contribute.

"Mister Antelope says that the Ians should avoid slipping into the belief that they are less imperialists than their Crownguardian counterparts. I don't believe that Sir Edward attempted to claim that Iansisle had behaved in a manner contrary to imperialistic. Why ever should they? Is the Shield not the admitted heart of a great intercontinental empire?"

The WBC would have invited listners to phone in, but frankly lacked the technology to cope with such an interface.

("Democracy is not inherently good, nor is tyranny inherently evil. Such nations who give such distinctions amuse us, merely because they misunderstand another culture."

Heh, Walmington leaves it to some nation not currently at war with Nazi Germany and her Fascist allies to give reaction to these statements :shock: )

("Democracy is not inherently good, nor is tyranny inherently evil. Such nations who give such distinctions amuse us, merely because they misunderstand another culture."

Heh, Walmington leaves it to some nation not currently at war with Nazi Germany and her Fascist allies to give reaction to these statements :shock: )


OOC:

Imperialism and tyranny are NOT Nazism nor fascism. Tyranny is rule by one person. Our nation does not descriminate agaisnt any group nor gender, everyone has a place in Crownguard, a job they can do and a good living.

Using a very old word, correct me if Im wrong, "Eudamonia" (Greek)

Brave New World is the closest approximation, or perhaps the Book, NOT movie, of Starship Troopers.

The focus of my statement was not directed at Crownguard. However in reply to Baron Alan Thunder-ten-tronckh, to be perfectly blunt, Imperialism is an unsightly behemoth of a government. It requires massive oversight and yields itself to abuses by the beauracracy that ensues. It's very nature requires it to be a constant conflict with it's own subjects. Also, Imperialism is closely related to tyranny. How large is the difference between absolute rule of one and absolute rule of a few. As long as a majority of the people remains in the chains of an Inperialistic class system, tyranny alone reigns.

I would like to personally how quaint the comment of an overwhelmed confused population given the vote it. There are many nation with billions of people that are democracies and some are even liberal democracies.

One last statement to Baron Alan Thunder-ten-tronckh. When refering to a Chief of my nation, you might want to consider a sir instead of a mister.

Sir Antelope of the Raging Family
The Most Serene REPUBLIC of Tribal Gods
Member, ICTC

Basic positions of Crownguard on several key issues:


Abortion: Allowed AND no stigma, however, incentives are given for raising a child. We want to keep the population booming.

Education: State sponsored, mandatory till age 18. Colleges offered by select elite institutions, all State-run. (Control the minds, control the people) However..each one is HIGHLY funded, the teachers an elite sub-group of administrator, making it the best education available by far.

A test is administered at age 18 for classification of Job status. All failures are assigned to Labor Corps for construction and blue collar jobs, or else drafted (if needed). Corporations are allowed to hire who they wish of the Non-Tagged people, (aka people who score less than the 60th percentile), though much of the factories are being automated, human beings needed more for delicate tasks.

Healthcare: State sponsored, incentives given to people who help with the military or research positions. No person is without decent medical care, genetics and bioresearch HIGHLY lucrative and prestigious.

Military Service: Required for all citizens at age 18, serve one year boot camp, waived if the person is needed for a highly sensitive or red-area position in the government. After boot camp, citizen is discharged with full honors, those who wish to continue recieve 2-3 more years of training and real world exercisses as soldier "cadets".

Welfare: State-run, though people are required to work for it. If you recieve a welfare check, you are required to help with whatever project or assignment you are given by the State. There are no free handouts, and the State happily provides job training to those who require it.

Equality: Full equality..all people are fully indoctrinated with Crownguardian beliefs in honor, loyalty, and excellence. Equality to the point where both sexes can even shower together, no segregation of military or civilian units.Sex offenders are punished harshly with punitive measures. Homosexuality is completely tolerated.

Minorities: Allowed to practice as they wish, however, they are required to take State-run courses in indoctrination in addition to pracitices of whatever they see fit. We keep a standard of conformity as regards several issues only.

Crime: Almost non-existant, we have a highly efficient system of weeding out offenders. Those who commit a crime are drafted as labor units for their sentence. All citizens are barcoded and given a SIN (System Identity Number) at birth or citizenship status. SIN-less people are granted civilian rights and access to state facilities , but arent given limited franchise unless pursuing SIN status. Criminals automatically given a SIN. (Yes, I nicked from Shadowrun there)

Religion: Government is affirmed atheist. Religions are allowed but monitored for subversive content detrimental to the State. All religious leaders are required to mantain files in our directory. (Came about after the Violetist Incident)

We have no need of terror tactics, for people come to love the State. Those who don't are completely welcome to leave, unless serving in a top-secret designation.

"Pah!" grunted Tedders, his great double and triple chins wobbling with rage. "Do they actually expect me to respond to this ... this savage?" He crumpled up the letter from Chief Raging Antelope in disgust. "I'm surprised the brute even found the energy to communicate in proper English without the help of an Iansislean school-teacher!"

"Well, Executor Tedders, it would be seen as a gracious gesture on your part: after all, they did take all the trouble to address a clear challenge to you. Backing down now would be most dishonorable." Mr. Galloway, the unfortunate who had drawn the short straw and been forced to present the letter to his boss all but quaked with fright. He hadn't seen the Executor so angry since the attempted mutiny several years back.

"To the devil with honor!" exclaimed Tedders, casting the crumpled paper across his well-appointed office in downtown Ianapalis. It rebounded off a splendid picture of Tedders in his younger, skinnier days holding a shot tiger in one hand and a M71B in the other. The tiger was now splayed across his floor. "If those savages want a response, they can get it from the government! Now, let me see the proper retorts."

Dear Mystical Speaker of Crownguard:

I have not yet met a dictatorship that is not tin-pot. The Company has survived through all these years through its merciless attachment to the eventual liberation of Gallaga and by keeping a receptive ear turned towards those it governs.

I look about me, as you suggested, and I see a happy, prosperous country filled to the brim with productive citizens laboring safe in the knowledge that their hard work will build a bright, free future for their children. The result of liberty I see is not decadence, but rather unity and the promise of a brighter dawn tomorrow.

In fact, the only decadence I see are in states such as Patria Effitibus. There, the insufferable tyranny of a mad dictator nearly drove a proud people into starvation and despair. Perhaps before you make such unenlightened comments, it would be better to look at the world around you.

We will not invade you, as you so haughtily insinuated. In fact, had you chanced to look at the facts before you jumped headfirst into topics you have no knowledge about, you would have known that Iansisle is renowned for its non-interference in the affairs of sovereign nations. Such, we find, is the realm of tin-pot dictatorships such as yours.

As before, good day!

Sir Edward Tedders



Chief Raging Antelope,

Your complaint has been noted and filed. Expect a response in the next 6-12 months.

East Gallaga Company, Native Affairs Department

"Pah!" grunted Tedders, his great double and triple chins wobbling with rage. "Do they actually expect me to respond to this ... this savage?" He crumpled up the letter from Chief Raging Antelope in disgust. "I'm surprised the brute even found the energy to communicate in proper English without the help of an Iansislean school-teacher!"

"Well, Executor Tedders, it would be seen as a gracious gesture on your part: after all, they did take all the trouble to address a clear challenge to you. Backing down now would be most dishonorable." Mr. Galloway, the unfortunate who had drawn the short straw and been forced to present the letter to his boss all but quaked with fright. He hadn't seen the Executor so angry since the attempted mutiny several years back.

"To the devil with honor!" exclaimed Tedders, casting the crumpled paper across his well-appointed office in downtown Ianapalis. It rebounded off a splendid picture of Tedders in his younger, skinnier days holding a shot tiger in one hand and a M71B in the other. The tiger was now splayed across his floor. "If those savages want a response, they can get it from the government! Now, let me see the proper retorts."

Dear Mystical Speaker of Crownguard:

I have not yet met a dictatorship that is not tin-pot. The Company has survived through all these years through its merciless attachment to the eventual liberation of Gallaga and by keeping a receptive ear turned towards those it governs.

I look about me, as you suggested, and I see a happy, prosperous country filled to the brim with productive citizens laboring safe in the knowledge that their hard work will build a bright, free future for their children. The result of liberty I see is not decadence, but rather unity and the promise of a brighter dawn tomorrow.

In fact, the only decadence I see are in states such as Patria Effitibus. There, the insufferable tyranny of a mad dictator nearly drove a proud people into starvation and despair. Perhaps before you make such unenlightened comments, it would be better to look at the world around you.

We will not invade you, as you so haughtily insinuated. In fact, had you chanced to look at the facts before you jumped headfirst into topics you have no knowledge about, you would have known that Iansisle is renowned for its non-interference in the affairs of sovereign nations. Such, we find, is the realm of tin-pot dictatorships such as yours.

As before, good day!

Sir Edward Tedders



Chief Raging Antelope,

Your complaint has been noted and filed. Expect a response in the next 6-12 months.

East Gallaga Company, Native Affairs Department

Dear "Executor",

The nation of Crownguard finds it most humourous that you would deign to call US a "tin-pot dictatorship". We look around ourselves as well, and see progress. We look to the "slums", and see clean streets with happy children. We, at least, make no pretenses about the nature of power, and do not hide behind quirky mannerisms and overblown rhetoric.

Tell yourself you are a democracy, you are welcome to do so. No one can speak for human rationalization and denial. Do not interfere with our affairs with your trite comments. Expansion and progress are the keys for a successful country, the bureaucracy of a democracy crippling. In a dictatorship, we need only to find a small handful of good people. In a "democracy" You must find good people the MAJORITY. That, I beleive above all, is why a benevolent dictatorship will succeed. We leave you to your "development" and non-interference, your delusions and deceit. In your own words:

Good day!

Tercero Xavier Delryn
Head of Military and Foreign Affairs

Sir Edward Tedders

I would like to thank you for acknowledging my points and responding in kind. Maybe part of the proper English comes from having a half-Iansislean nanny. One bit of advice, don't yell so loud that your subordinates can hear. People listen and repeat. One of the things this native has is an attentive ear.
However, your statement to Crownguard sealed my opinion of you. You stated the truth, unbiased by opinion. You, Sir, are truly a gentleman and a scholar.

Chief Raging Antelope

The focus of my statement was not directed at Crownguard. However in reply to Baron Alan Thunder-ten-tronckh, to be perfectly blunt, Imperialism is an unsightly behemoth of a government. It requires massive oversight and yields itself to abuses by the beauracracy that ensues. It's very nature requires it to be a constant conflict with it's own subjects. Also, Imperialism is closely related to tyranny. How large is the difference between absolute rule of one and absolute rule of a few. As long as a majority of the people remains in the chains of an Inperialistic class system, tyranny alone reigns.

I would like to personally how quaint the comment of an overwhelmed confused population given the vote it. There are many nation with billions of people that are democracies and some are even liberal democracies.

One last statement to Baron Alan Thunder-ten-tronckh. When refering to a Chief of my nation, you might want to consider a sir instead of a mister.

Sir Antelope of the Raging Family
The Most Serene REPUBLIC of Tribal Gods
Member, ICTC

Sir Antelope of the Sovereign Republic of Tribal Gods,

We understand your sentiments and your ways. We have no plans on invading, threatening, or even scorning your nation. Our expansion is reserved for those who fail to create a successful country and require guidance, not those countries which already exist. We have our own brand of honor, which, though not in concert with yours, we must follow. There is more than one right way for a country to be governed. We merely feel ours is ethically correct, justified, and very, very successful. We wish you success in all your endeavours.


Honorably Yours,

Tercero Xavier Delryn
Head of Military and Foreign Affairs

Comrade Igo's brow could take little more of this. Someone would surely sow crops, he thought, if he could not erode these furrows.

Graeme typed up a letter to Tercero Xavier Delryn, Crownguard's head of foreign affairs. In it he asked several things.
First the infamously confrontational and controversial comrade Igo wanted to know what Crownguard's ruling establishment felt that it had and could achieve beyond that possible in The People's Commonwealth -a nation state with no head, run in democratic fashion through a system of entirely open senates.
Second he made evident his curiosity over imperialist Crownguard's stance on and intentions towards other nations and peoples, especially such democracies as The People's Commonwealth of Beth "If Dictatorial Premier Sopworth Were Still In Place We May Have Obliterated Crownguard By Now*" Gellert.


*Specifically comrade Igo's words, of course.

Your statements are increasingly infuriating. You thoughtfully assure my nation that we will not be invaded. You then go on to state you only invade countries that aren't countries. If a region has a self sustaing population, has developed a culture, even if at odds with yours, it is a nation. That is the inherent problem with Imperialism and why Imperialism is looked upon with disdain. It requires countries to deny the right of other countries to exist. This inherently creates seperate classes of people. Whether or not it happens intentionally, some of the population is being "rescued" and some is "rescuing." That is not equality. Preventing the natural development of cultures and nations is the indisputable purpose of not just imperialism, but tyranny.

Crownguard could not invade me. My reclusive people decline to fight with guns and weapons. We fight with words. And with the solid of support of many nations that hold secret mutual defense agreements.


Respectfully,

Chief Raging Antelope
The Most Serene Republic of Tribal Gods
Member, ICTC

Dear "Executor",

The nation of Crownguard finds it most humourous that you would deign to call US a "tin-pot dictatorship". We look around ourselves as well, and see progress. We look to the "slums", and see clean streets with happy children. We, at least, make no pretenses about the nature of power, and do not hide behind quirky mannerisms and overblown rhetoric.

Tell yourself you are a democracy, you are welcome to do so. No one can speak for human rationalization and denial. Do not interfere with our affairs with your trite comments. Expansion and progress are the keys for a successful country, the bureaucracy of a democracy crippling. In a dictatorship, we need only to find a small handful of good people. In a "democracy" You must find good people the MAJORITY. That, I beleive above all, is why a benevolent dictatorship will succeed. We leave you to your "development" and non-interference, your delusions and deceit. In your own words:

Good day!

Tercero Xavier Delryn
Head of Military and Foreign Affairs

Mr. Delyrn,

While it's certainly nice to know the face behind the voice, I'm afraid it lends little to your credibility. In fact, throughout our entire correspondence, you've proven yourself to be nothing but an instrument of the state, proudly spouting off the party rhetoric as pleases your political masters.

You’ve also proven a singular inability to recognize the differences between the state of Iansisle and a private corporation which operates under its authority by way of a royal charter. While we exercise some political control within Gallaga, particularly in the area of infrastructure development, we are not a true government. We are still be considered a democracy, however, as each stockholder is granted a number of votes equal to his proportion of the Company owned during board elections, and each person, Shieldian or Gallagan, resident in Iansislean Gallaga holds stock.

Your country’s corruption of noble ideals is just what leads to global instability. While a country can thrive under a benevolent dictatorship, all it takes is one power-hungry crack-pot to muss the whole thing up. That was a lesson that Iansisle - and please, I emphasize the difference between the state and the Company here, for your convenience - had to learn far in its past. True, often democracy may be inefficient, and in rare circumstances circumvented by the sort of war-monger that finds his own rise much easier in your sort of tyranny, but that is simply the price one must pay to live in a state free in near perpetuity from institutions such as the Gestapo.

While I have found this debate to be charming, if not particularly invigorating, I’m afraid our correspondence may be drawing to a close. I simply fear that you will be able to bring nothing more than the dogmatic Big Brother lines you’ve already spouted ad nauseam to the table. Until we meet again!

Sir Edward Tedders


There remained no official response to Chief Antelope, though his claim was quickly dismissed. In Iansisle, where one must be ever vigilant against the aggressive reporting of the Iansislean International Telegraph Corporation, headquarters such as the East Gallaga Company’s were soundproofed and isolated from the great bulk of the building’s work force, to ensure a quiet place for executive-level meetings. As such, the Chief’s claims of ‘overhearing’ a private conversation were dismissed as lunacy or an attempt at slander by any with an basic knowledge of Iansislean business practices.

EDIT: Man, do I miss Sopworth...

Dear Mr. Tedders,

I must ask you one, and only one question, seeing as how we will never agree: How can your government allow a private corporation to conduct international politics?



Dear Chief Antelope,

We have no need to converse with you anymore. We will not succor nor grant the courtesy of a full reply to a nation steeped in mysticism and slavery to a divine being or beings.

**Well..night time for now...sorry the posts weren't longer. You must realize that I dont necessarily espouse Crownguard as MY political beliefs. I also play Zeriach, a totally opposite nation on the spectrum. In rl, Im pretty much liberal.**

Dear Mr. Tedders,

I must ask you one, and only one question, seeing as how we will never agree: How can your government allow a private corporation to conduct international politics?

Sir, I can only wonder how yours, claiming imperial status, can afford not to.

**Well..night time for now...sorry the posts weren't longer. You must realize that I dont necessarily espouse Crownguard as MY political beliefs. I also play Zeriach, a totally opposite nation on the spectrum. In rl, Im pretty much liberal.**

ooc: Oh, don't worry: I wasn't. ;) I hope I haven't offended anyone in the course of this thread: Tedders is a loud, obnoxious, arrogant, racist pig. I don't run my country, or most of the people in it, as a representation of my political ideals...if I were to do that, I'd end up with something closer to Tanah Burung :)

Dear Mr. Tedders,

I must ask you one, and only one question, seeing as how we will never agree: How can your government allow a private corporation to conduct international politics?

Sir, I can only wonder how yours, claiming imperial status, can afford not to.

**Well..night time for now...sorry the posts weren't longer. You must realize that I dont necessarily espouse Crownguard as MY political beliefs. I also play Zeriach, a totally opposite nation on the spectrum. In rl, Im pretty much liberal.**

ooc: Oh, don't worry: I wasn't. ;) I hope I haven't offended anyone in the course of this thread: Tedders is a loud, obnoxious, arrogant, racist pig. I don't run my country, or most of the people in it, as a representation of my political ideals...if I were to do that, I'd end up with something closer to Tanah Burung :)


Laughs uproaringly* Oh my..that deserves a big ol :o

"A winner is you!"

(Yeah, erm, where could ol' Sopworth be? In gaol? Or did one recent Final Senate meeting degenerate into a vodka-drinking contest culminating in the brash decision to rid The People's Commonwealth of all prisons over-night without special provision (due to my being lazy)?
CoughDra-polSplutter, excuse me RetchnuclearsecretsCough, fleeing GS agents.. uh.. cough!

For the record BG is run pretty much as I should like a nation to be, only should it exist in reality I doubt we'd spend this much on defence. 1.54bln people with a near $50,000 per capita GDP would probably feel pretty safe from american interference on a 1% defence budget rather than 7-9%

Anyway, if you'll excuse me I have a 1st in the region and 288th in the world for Smartest Citizens dance to conduct..)

(Ahem [/spam])

My support is hereby given.

Here's a question for all to ponder:

Is it possible to have a "good" dictator? My opinion leans toward yes. Let us discuss.

Signed,
The Emperor

The Empire of Roycelandia roundly criticises all nations that would question our Nation's Sovereign Right to behave in an Imperialistic Manner.

Thanks to the benevolent rule of His Imperial Majesty Emperor Royce I, our economy has improved, our quality of life is the highest in the region, and our Colonies are havens of civilisation, culture, and prosperity in a sea of savagery, barbarianism, and poverty.

Our Red-coated Imperial Guard provide security for all, equipped with the latest Mk III Lee-Enfield .303 Rifles and No. 5 Lee-Enfield Jungle Carbines.

The Imperial Trading Company hs forged many trade deals and partnerships benficial to Nations everywhere, and Imperial Armaments makes some of the finest weaponry available anywhere in the world.

So, to all those who would condemn Imperialism, We say:

"Your Mother was a Hamster and your Father reeked of Elderberries! We Fart in your general direction!" :P

Pax Romana

As leader of the Imperium Romanus Novus, you have my full support!

It is true that there have been several attacks on imperialism here on NS recently. This must end. A world under a single rule brings absolute unity to all. Separate soveregnties only divide us.

Ever since I and the leader of the aw inspiring nation of Seph founded the Imperium Romanus Novus, we have met great prosperity. Our region has become 16 strong and has diplomatic ties with The Imperial Council region. We all aid eachother in times of need and are willing to answer calls for help by other nations to the best of our abilities.

Many powerful nations and regions have threatened our security, but we continue to stand strong.

Nationalism is the scourge of Mankind.

Emperor Sachkantine I.

I believe it would be Imperium Novum Romae, if you meant that to say 'the New Empire of Rome' ; Imperium Novum Romanarum of you meant 'the New Empire of the Romans' ... Rome is Roma -ae; Roman is Romana -ae.

Bah... I've heard it all before, representing the NAIA I would like to point out that while we are against most forms of imperialism we do not seek to start wars to rid the world of Imperialism, we simly seek to defend nations against the actions of imperialists whould their soviegn rights be threatened.

As such we offer any nation under threat of imperialistic actions to please tell us so we may aid you however we can. We remain against most forms of imperialism and will continue to condemn imperialistic actions. The below link in my signature will give you the details of what we define as imperialism as well as a place to warn us of such threats.

thanks,



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Mr. Delyrn,

While my government appreciates your desire to cease communication and to otherwise close the paths of democracy, we would like to file one final complaint. My government is curious as to where you decided we were a nation "steeped in mysticism and slavery to a divine being or beings." If you are refering to our choice to acknowledge our cultural heritage by retaining title of old, it is useless to point out the inherent hypocrisy. While typically "imperialist" nations relish knighthood and the like, a "heathen" nation is enslaved to some divine being. So much for your nations supposed freedom of religion. We thank you for your time.

Sincerely,
Chief Raging Antelope


Sir Edward Tedders

As a brief matter of clarification, I never intended to imply we overheard any comments. It was merely a comment. Members of your staff have vices that require money. If you would like names to prevent further information releases, feel free to ask. We respect the endeavors of the East Gallagan Company. Thank you for your time.


With Respect,

Chief Raging Antelope

Mr. Antelope,

Apparently you fail to understand that the conduct of nations is not a "democratic process". National conduct is a power struggle as nations are forced to deal and compromise to attain concessions. Nations which isolate themselves from the world poltics, or fail to expand, land-wise or econonomically based, fail to attain the best possible status for their nation. The first responsibility of a leader of a nation is to protect its people, and to attain the best possible livelihood for them. This must be done with integrity on the part of the politician, to prevent abuse of the nature of their office.

Yes, what was submitted before was an attack, we do not respect a nation based on any religion, as evidenced by the very name of your country. We refuse to conduct relations with any nation failing to realize secular government is removed from religious "faith". We care not your personal beliefs, but to put them brazenly to others is disgusting in our eyes, as well as any secular government can attest. Regardless, in the interest of fairness, I will retract my statement and continue this discussion.

Democracy has no inherent moral superiority over a dictatorship, or in a nationalistic manner. A tyranny of a majority of people, easily led in a mob mentality, are far more dangerous than a cadre of professionals, sober and well-informed in their task. What is the more logical choice when you are sick? Consult the expert, or conduct a poll? Obviously you visit the medical specialist and trust that their experience and knowledge, as well as training, will provide for you. Or do you trust the opinions of a majority, a tyrannical majority, that share massively differing amounts of intelligence, perception, and ability? Personally, I trust a well-intentioned expert in any manner over a gaggle of ignorant people, susceptible to peer pressure and mob mentality.

Tyranny is by no means reserved to the sober few.

Sincerely,
Tercero Xavier Delryn