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Syskeyiapolis Times-Journal, Online Edition

SYSKEYIA (AP)- Millions of Syskeyians are boycotting Knootian products to protest the Dutch Democratic Republic's financial and moral support of abortion and euthanasia.

A tank commander during the Knootian War, Sgt. Michael Jiachung always used to enjoy drinking a can of Pink Bunny Cola or two.

"It was reasonably priced, it had a refreshing taste, and by buying it, I thought I was helping the Knootians rebuild their homeland."

Then, the war veteran came across some information that changed his beverage habits forever.

"I knew that abortion and euthanasia were legal in Knootoss," Jiachung remarked, "but actively encouraged by the government? That was it, I thought. No more Pink Bunny Cola for me, thank you ver much."

Sgt. Jiachung's experience is not unique. All across Syskeyia, a campaign to "Boycott the Knazis!" has sprung up in opposition to the Dutch Democratic Republic's pro-abortion and euthanasia policies.

"How can Knootoss claim to be 'pro-choice' when they won't give a hospital government money unless that hospital euthanizes a certain number of people," remarked New Nicaea Galleria frequenter Anna Chumthwak. "Sound more like 'pro-death' to me."

As Syskeyia is formally allied with Knootoss via the South Atlantic Treaty Organization, the government has had no comment on this phenomenon.

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia

From the newspaper Trouw

Economic ministry challenges Syskeyian boycott with country outraged

THE HAGUE – the Knootian ministry of Foreign Affairs has formally asked the government of Syskeyia to take measures against an boycott that struck Knootian products recently. In a press conference, as spokesman for the ministry used unusually strong words urging their government to take a stance as what is being described as ‘totally unneeded and hurtful to good bilateral relations’.

The spokesman explained: “such boycotts do not come spontaneous and out of nowhere. There must be some kind of organisation behind it. Firstly, we have contacted their government and asked them to take an active stance against the mass-boycotting of allied products. Secondly we have asked them to engage in talks so that this economic crime may end. Clearly, this whole thing is based on widespread misinformation. Our hospitals are places of relief, not a place of institutionalised murder. People have a right to choose – nobody is forced to commit him- or herself to euthanasia. And this procedure has been standing policy for decades – really there is no reason for all of this.”

Off the record, an anonymous source within the ministry told Trouw that they were willing to go ‘to great lengths’ in order to stop this boycott. The source also uttered suspicions that the Syskeyian government was behind all this blaming the whole thing as a ploy to deal with “the complete lacking of competitiveness” of the Syskeyian economy. The source claimed that his ideas were widespread in the ministry: “They have an average progressive income tax rate of 64% which just doesn’t compete with the world. And then they spent most of their money on something they call ‘religion and spirituality’, which is basically just shoving taxpayer money to their churches. Did I mention a completely bloated defence budget?”

In the nation, responses have been negative, especially from those hit by the boycott. If the boycott continues thousands of jobs may be lost, causing a downward push on economic growth. A Pink Bunny Cola Inc. representative tried to put things in perspective however: “We produce our PBC for Syskeyia locally, apart from the plastic flasks which are produced in the EOTED. Really, for PBC Inc. they are hurting themselves most. If that plant has to close 1.500 Syskeyians will lose their jobs. Of course, it will cut into our profits but the Knootian employees, stockholders and consumers need not worry. We will find other markets. I have great expectations for Iansisle for example and we will be introducing a new flavour in march.”

This event is predicted to only strengthen already surging antireligious sentiments in the DDR. According to sociologists there has been a very high concentration of news that can be considered to be ‘inspiring non-political but nevertheless antireligious sentiments’, such as the events in Lavenrunz, the trial currently being held in the Reich.

OOC: Okay, since you apparently do have time now: could you please answer my return telegram?

OOC: I only recently found out that your country actually funded abortion and euthanasia.

From here: (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=103377)
1. Knootoss is one of the the most morally liberal cultures in NS, with legalized prostitution, government-provided drugs and abortions, and state-sponsored euthanasia.

And here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97160)
Live and let die

That was the motto of the Central Academic Hospital in Knootcap. And the hospital management tried to live up to that motto with uncanny efficiency. With Christmas about to start, the year was almost over, and the hospital had almost reached it’s government quota of putting 35.000 people to death through ‘voluntary euthanasia’.

34.814 people had filled in the form for euthanasia, or had close relatives who had done it for them in that hospital alone. But the management has a bit worried: with the year almost over there were targets to be met: if the hospital wanted to retain it’s government subsidy, in any case. With the government seeking to lower spending, cuts were inevitable. And on the other side there were the medi-corporations and insurance organisations exerting pressure on the hospitals for more efficiency.

The old year was coming to an end, and hospital director Schaatsema knew that there would still be plenty of cases to be ‘treated’ when the fireworks went off, but still. Schaatsema left his office and went downstairs, to one of the wards. He had been a nurse, decades ago, and still was allowed to perform those duties in emergencies. "and heck, this was an emergency", he thought.
Note: emphases added

How about this for a scenario: some pro-life group did an expose on Knootoss, exposing the government's encouragement of euthanasia, and as a result of this Knootoss public support of abortion and euthanasia became common knowledge in Syskeyia.

Yes, I know, the taxes are way too high for peacetime. But I'm not getting issues tat decrease taxes. And I shouldn't have increased military spending recently, in retrospect.

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia

OOC: I'd like to avoid an OOC discussion here, but to address your point:

Euthanasia is part of the health-scheme, insofar there is one.
Re: first post. Abortion clinics are generally funded, throughout western Europe in any case for as far as my knowledge extends. Experiments with provided drugs are being held in numerous countries. And funding it (through basic insurance in a welfare scheme) seems normal to me. After all, everyone has the right to equal access no? I find the thought of having to actually pay for your own death much more morbid. Not even accounting that you might not be able to get money because you are ill and have to stay in bed.

Re: Second post:
In the hospitals there are quota. This is not out of the ordinary for accepted medical practices. Just like a hospital has targets for the amount of surgery that it should perform for a certain subsidy, or an amount of people that a centre for burns must take. That’s the way governments run. That does not at all endorse the practice an sich or force hospitals to kill people for money. They just have to use their capacity.

And really, I could go with a few people boycotting after a television show. Considering the size of the country maybe even thousands. But BILLIONS of people who spontaneously stop consuming without any external encouragement is a tad bit unrealistic. Perhaps I have been reading the wrong stuff, or I have been living in a different dimension but it’s impossible. Surely there must have been some form of encouragement, external pressure or a representative group or something. A call to boycott. Anyways, whatever the case may be the first paragraph stands, we’re still asking for your governments help dear ally :).

OOC: TNX for answering the TG.
Note to others who are reading this: there has been an IC reply, only it has been given somewhere else... more secure. Just so you don't think that I'm just crying 'impossible'.

EDIT: and just a reminded Sys: the place where I posted is supposed to be secret/secure so no references here. That is probably best for now with an indeterminate result. Thank you. :wink:

OOC: Erm.

IC

As an ally of both Syskeyia and Knootoss, we encourage their respective governments to talk this problem through. Such a boycott would mean people losing their jobs and this could lead to a furthering of bad relations between your nations, which is dangerous at such a delicate time.

Chimaea does not support abortions, but we do point out that since Knootoss is a democratic nation, abortions being legal are the will of the people...

IC:

This is exactly what we have requested so far, in calling for talks. We have tried to resolve this amicably but our hand may be forced soon. We hope that this unfortunate incident will not adversely affect our relations with Chimaea.
~Knootian ministry of Foreign Affairs message/release thingy

We urge both parties to prevent hostilities over the issue of Euthanasia. While we oppose the practice ourselves, we feel it does not warrant the shedding of blood on uninvolved innocent people.

We hope diplomacy will resolve any outstanding issues which might arise.

Queen Mariah I of Jersuselem
Founder of DotF

OOC: Jerusalem. Nominally we are still allies now. I don't think war is even an option here. It would be like the US invading France because they are annoyed with their Iraq position. I have a wholly different idea about 'ultimate means'

~Ministry for OOC affairs and basic intelligence.

OOC: Jerusalem. Nominally we are still allies now. I don't think war is even an option here. It would be like the US invading France because they are annoyed with their Iraq position. I have a wholly different idea about 'ultimate means'

~Ministry for OOC affairs and basic intelligence.

Interesting kind of alliance, like the Middle ages. Same enemy, but you still dislike each other. I assume economic sanctions, diplomatic withdrawal and other "more gentle means".

OOC: you'll see... *smiles misteriously*

OOC: you'll see... *smiles misteriously*

Syskeyia was offered membership in the DotF, but declined so it isn't really a major issue what happens as long as no innocents are killed or targetted. Syskeyia gets into trouble a fair bit anyway.

For the first time in living memory, Iesus Christi citizens declared on mass their SUPPORT for the Syskeyians and their boycotting of Knootian products due to the Dutch Democratic Republic's financial and moral support of abortion and euthanasia. A Vigil rosary outside the 'church of the holy trinity' where over 10,000 gathered was the largest display of the support for the Syskeyian move., but countless other rosary groups nationwide joined in public praying for their Syskeyian brothers and sisters.

Father John Drew, Leader of the Adeste Fidelis moral league called the Syskeyian act a .."act of total good in the finest tradition of those who believe in the gospel of life"
and also went on to say...
"while understanding that support from Iesus Christi would do nothing to positivly influence the Syskeyians, I hope the average Syskeyian knows the catholics of Iesus Christi supports them in their struggle against the pro-death knootian government. Blessed are those who thirst and hunger for what is right"

Popcorn tag.

OOC: Knoot check tgrams.

Television ad run in Syskeyia, sponsored by several Knootian corporations:

*scary horror music with a voice-over provided by a a well-known Syskeyian actor*
Father John Drew, leader of the Iesus Adeste Fidelis moral league supports it...
*pictures of John Drew, adressing some kind of mad mob of angry people. *
... he also supported killing members of the Syskeyian embassy...
*pictures of dying Syskeians on the ground, and other bloody scenes.*

He calls it an act of total good according to Iesus morals...
*some old pictures of the Iesus army commiting cruelties. Probably in Bloodreign or in St. Dominic or Amerigo. Isn't exactly clear. Perhaps even mixed together.*
... the same morals that allow for the opression of billions using the name of the Lord in vain.

It has the full support of Iesus Christi government...
*pictures of Matty Iesus making a speech, condemning Syskeia and
... the same government that is an enemy of God and an enemy of Syskeyia calling them heathens*

They are driving longstanding allies apart.

*bloody red letters appear*
THE KNOOTIAN BOYCOTT

[whispered] end it now...

EDIT: Belem, I replied to your TG. I must say it is an... interesting proposal. See the TG.

As an ally of both Syskeyia and Knootoss, we encourage their respective governments to talk this problem through. Such a boycott would mean people losing their jobs and this could lead to a furthering of bad relations between your nations, which is dangerous at such a delicate time.

Agreed.

How about a conference in Chimaea?

I will be there.

God bless,

Benedict Michael Sukothai
President and First Consul of the Republic of Syskeyia

OOC: Nice ad, Knoot.

We are willing to attend, but do not see why such a conference should be held in a third nation. For the sake of efficiency we would like to do it in Syskeyia
~Knootian ministry of Foreign Affairs

*Tag* for future references.

-Ruhrian DIA Agent

We'd be willing to host a conference of course; it's completely up to you. We do note the Knootoss gesture of goodwill as to having it in Syskeyia. We're still all friends here after all.

Darwin Lodge, the Governor's residence, would be the ideal place to hold any such conference and we invite representatives to attend.

~Sir Reginald Styles
Governor of Chimaea

We are willing to attend, but do not see why such a conference should be held in a third nation. For the sake of efficiency we would like to do it in Syskeyia
~Knootian ministry of Foreign Affairs

Agreed.

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia

Adeste fidelis "The truth shall set you free"
A message from father John Drew

Many things have been said about me and my nation...things based not in reality but said to turn the hearts of the Syskeyians away from the horrid truth that is the Pro-death Knootian government
I am the first to accept Iesus Christi is not a Christian utopia, I personally have spent over 10 years in different Iesus prisons as a prisoner of conscience and even now lobby the government to abandon the Embassy trials....
But Catholic brothers and sisters....this is all beside the point...
for....
Over 55,000,000 children* world wide have been murdered via abortion and now the sinister shadow of Euthanasia rises ,yet another assualt on the dignity of God given life!


"Amen I say to you, as long as you did not do it for one of these least ones, you did not do it for me. And these will go into everlasting punishment, but the just into everlasting life."
Matt. 25: 45-46

"If you remain indifferent in time of adversity, your strength will depart from you. Rescue those who are being dragged to death and from those tottering to execution withdraw not. If you say, "I know not this man!" does not he who tests hearts perceive it? He who guards your life knows it, and he will repay each one according to his deeds."
Prov. 24: 10-12

Abortion is an evil so horrific no Christian can or should turn from it.
To ignore this evil is to take part in it.

What can Christians do? What we should have done to begin with, no discussion...no back down...
All Christians must find their voices. They must stand up and speak out against this and all assaults on human life. And most of all, they must speak with their votes at the ballot box to vote out all pro-death politicians and those who would ally with them! No alliance or trade with murder!

Anything less, and Christians will bear more responsibility for the death of Jesus' precious children, than if they held the knife themselves.

Of everyone to whom much has been given, much will be required.
Luke 12:48


OOC:If the syskeyian government allows private groups to run adverts,they will run this/assuming you'd allow it/plus the 55million children murdered figure I assume would be alot higher in NS being its 55 million in our world...and NS is alot bigger....

please pray the Rosary for the victims of abortion... and for the conversion of those who promote or provide abortions.

OOC: *skips usual extensive arrival stuff and cuts to it*

The Knootians arrive in Syskeyia's international airport. The lady at the counter notices a team of especially grimlooking men in black suits, and one woman who wears a light-grey outfit with stripes. Without saying much they show their diplomatic passports and walk on to the agreed rendez-vouz.

The meeting shall be at the Auli Consuli. I will be there personally, along with the representatives of Human Life Syskeyia, the Syskeyian Life League, NationStaters for Life, and Cardinal Theophilius, the Primate of the Church in Syskeyia.

God bless,

Benedict Michael Sukothai
President and First Consul of the Republic of Syskeyia

OOC: I'll describe the Aula Consuli later.

The meeting shall be at the Auli Consuli. I will be there personally, along with the representatives of Human Life Syskeyia, the Syskeyian Life League, NationStaters for Life, and Cardinal Theophilius, the Primate of the Church in Syskeyia.

God bless,

Benedict Michael Sukothai
President and First Consul of the Republic of Syskeyia

OOC: I'll describe the Aula Consuli later.

The meeting shall be at the Auli Consuli. I will be there personally, along with the representatives of Human Life Syskeyia, the Syskeyian Life League, NationStaters for Life, and Cardinal Theophilius, the Primate of the Church in Syskeyia.

God bless,

Benedict Michael Sukothai
President and First Consul of the Republic of Syskeyia

OOC: I'll describe the Aula Consuli later.

The diplomats got in two arranged black limousines. The front or the car featured two plastic Knootian flags that had been attached, indicating a diplomatic party.

The cars drove off to Auli Consuli (OOC: whatever that is.)

*wants the meeting to start*

The cars drove off to Auli Consuli (OOC: whatever that is.)

OOC: The Aula Consuli (Latin for "Palace of the Consul) is the residence of the First Consul of Syskeyia. It is across the (Syskeyiapolis) Forum from Parliament (The Forum is the heart of Syskeyiapolis, a large, retangular plaza running East-West that's basically as big as Red Square)

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia

"Any country that accepts abortion is not teaching its people to love but to use violence to get what they want. This is why the greatest destroyer of love and peace is abortion."
Mother Teresa

http://www.vatican.va/edocs/ENG0141/_INDEX.HTM

OOC: can we please keep the IRL propaganda to a minimum, Matty? Mother Teresa does not excist in NS.

*shoots at the semiholy nun with an IGNORE cannon.*

IC:
The cars pulled over in front of the Aula Consuli. The diplomats got out and made their way to the residence of the First Consul of Syskeyia. Even if they admired the scene of the Syskeian political heartland they did not show it. All had grim faces, and strict orders and authorisations.

ooc: i know this is abit late, but could i be included some where? if you want to kno about our politics don't hassitate to telegram us

OOC: First off, are you a puppet or a new player?
Second off, I think it will be difficult for you to be included. After all, this is a closed bilateral meeting.

OOC: can we please keep the IRL propaganda to a minimum, Matty? Mother Teresa does not excist in NS.

OOC: Yes, she did. She died before the NS world existed. My "rule of thumb" is that the RL world includes the NS world, just the RL countries, for some reason, ignored the NS nations. :D

*shoots at the semiholy nun with an IGNORE cannon.*

You'd shoot at her?! Evil man!
(Alos, why is she only semiholy?)

IC:
The cars pulled over in front of the Aula Consuli. The diplomats got out and made their way to the residence of the First Consul of Syskeyia. Even if they admired the scene of the Syskeian political heartland they did not show it. All had grim faces, and strict orders and authorisations.

"Welcome to the Aula Consuli," greeted one of the guards to the Knootian delegation. "Sukothai and the others are waiting for you in the First Consul's office."

ooc: i started today, me new ... i want a "12 issues per day" thing..

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Aula Consuli
Syskeyia
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The lead Knootian, the woman in the striped powersuit, nodded to the guard, "thank you", she replied simply. The group then proceeded inside, still grimly determined.

A brown-haired diplomat in the rear of the group, fiddled with his tie as he walked in. He was holding a standard black suitcase. It looked just like those the others were holding, but it was slightly larger and had a firm lock on it. It was of the type usually used to carry diplomatic papers, and it bore the crest of the DDR, a guinea pig with it's paw firmly in the air. The hands of the man were slightly sweaty. He was the most inexperienced of the group, and still slightly nervous for this meeting. However his deep brown eyes did not show it, and neither did his mouth with his lips clenched together.

Softly he whispered the atheist motto: Embrace Reality

OOC:
Terra Alpha, perhaps another time.
Sys, surely with all these people being declared holy these days there is some inflation...

Softly he whispered the atheist motto: Embrace Reality
*Grits teeth OOCly*

IC:
The Knootian delegation is led into one of the rooms of the Aula Consuli. The room's architecture, like that of the entire residence, is a fusion of early Gothic and Thai architecture. (OOC: Thing Royal Palace at Bangkok) Of course, as Syskeyia is Catholic, Christian rather than Buddhist themes adorn the room. Sukothai sits in a chair in the room.
"Please, take your seats. I am Benedict Michael Sukothai, President and First Consul of the Republic of Syskeyia. He then introduces other other Syskeyians in the room.
"Here on my left is Fr. Joachim Usannu, head of Human Life Syskeyia. To my right is Helen Luong, president of the Syskeyian Life League, Elijah Toan, the head of Syskeyia's division of NationStaters for Life, and His Eminence Theophilius Cardinal Sangworn, Archbishop of Syskeyiapolis and Primate of Syskeyia."

"Would you like to begin?"

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia

Apparently our Knootian friends underestimate the faith and loyalty to God that Lietuvs have. Certainly they would understand that keeping close relations with a nation so beligerently 'anti-God' would be hypocritical?

We are very strong supporters of choice, not quota. The USSL expresses its deepest worries that Knootoss has simply gone too far in establishing quotas on its hospitals. Death is more than a needle, it is the ending of a human life. Hospitals were invented to treat the sick, not kill them. We allow euthanasia, but do not support it. We allow abortion, but do not support it. It is the choice of the people to decide what to do.

We ask Knootoss to think about this. If it continues upon this path that so defames God, simply because millions worship Him, we will have no choice to cancel the visit planned by Knootian officials.

On a second note, we kindly ask that Iesus Christi keep its Nazi propaganda to itself. A nation that lives in the Reich has no right to preach to others about imhumanity and murder.

http://home.earthlink.net/~chipcomp/mfa.jpg

Abortion... What a disgusting thing, it was with great wisdom that my Grandfather banned it in our Empire.


http://www.projectbag.com/vhd/thumbnails/charlotte11_t.jpg
Dark Princess Charlotte Palisha
The Empire of Alizastar

taggedy tag

OOC: I figure that if Iesus wants to protest my claim, he can say it here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=113458&start=0).

OOC: semi...holy..my...arse....
Plus/I agree with sys/have to assume some things are real. ie the church. So in my books , The blessed Mother Teresa is canon in the NS world :)
oh and knoot..Embrace reality? Embrace my foot.....:P

IC:
Rosary crusade for Pro-life leaders world wide

We pray for the Syskeyian government and the people, that they may have the courage to embrace the gospel of Christ and stand up for the millions upon millions killed in the tide of Genocide that is Abortion...


In comparison with the love of Jesus, everything else is secondary. And without the love of Jesus, everything else is useless.
Pope John Paul II

The Knootian delegation is led into one of the rooms of the Aula Consuli. The room's architecture, like that of the entire residence, is a fusion of early Gothic and Thai architecture. (OOC: Thing Royal Palace at Bangkok) Of course, as Syskeyia is Catholic, Christian rather than Buddhist themes adorn the room. Sukothai sits in a chair in the room.
"Please, take your seats. I am Benedict Michael Sukothai, President and First Consul of the Republic of Syskeyia. He then introduces other other Syskeyians in the room.
"Here on my left is Fr. Joachim Usannu, head of Human Life Syskeyia. To my right is Helen Luong, president of the Syskeyian Life League, Elijah Toan, the head of Syskeyia's division of NationStaters for Life, and His Eminence Theophilius Cardinal Sangworn, Archbishop of Syskeyiapolis and Primate of Syskeyia."

"Would you like to begin?"

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Aula Consuli
Syskeyia
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The 31 year old lead diplomat stepped forward and gave a familiar look to Benedict Michael Sukothai. “Yes Mr. President, that would be nice. Please allow me to introduce my team. You know me of course, De Vries, ambassador to SATO. This is Mrs. Limoen, our expert, attached to the ministry of foreign affairs.” The woman in the powersuit gave a curt nod.

“And this…”, de Vries turned around to the handsome brown-haired man in his late twenties. He was still holding the larger suitcase. As the eyes of the two Knootians met, both smiled endearingly. They were smiles that may have meant much if one was looking for interpretations, “… this is Mr. Merry, junior attaché to the ministry. He has worked in the Syskeyian embassy for half a year during his studies.” Merry blushed lightly, flushing his cheeks in a pale cherry colour. He then nodded twice in the general directions of the Syskeyians.

The Knootians then sat down. As they made themselves comfortable there was a moment of quiet. Merry, too was silent, but he was also disturbed by a soft ticking sound close by. Tick-tack-tick-tack-tick-tack… it sounded. Time was ticking away. Softly, it could barely be heard by Merry let alone anyone else. The young Knootian ticked his ‘pointing finger’ against his watch thrice.

Ambassador De Vries took out a stack of paper and put it in front of him, a gesture followed by the others. De Vries, who obviously was the senior Knootian diplomat here despite Mrs. Limoen’s age, looked at Benedict Michael Sukothai: “Mr. President, I understand we have been invited here to solve the problems that the boycotts have caused together, considering the discussions in SATO. Would you like to make an opening statement?”

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To: Lietuveska government
From: Knootian Ministry of Foreign Affairs

The government would like to assure you that we are in no way ‘anti God’ in outlook. Our constitution preaches tolerance towards all, and allows for freedom of religion. We keep ourselves in accordance with the separation of church and state, and as such the government takes in neither a positive now a negative attitude towards religion. However as the vast majority of the Knootian people is avowedly atheist, we only try to represent their wishes in a democratic manner. We trust the same goes for your government.

Regarding the quota on our hospitals: I fear that there have been some misunderstandings. The government does not enforce a certain amount of euthanasia cases on hospitals. People have a choice, not a duty. Euthanasia is always voluntary. In this sense, there is no operational difference between our policies.

‘Quota’s’, or ‘targets’, as the preferred term is, are only used as a means to determine how much subsidy a hospital (or other organisation) deserves based on measurable terms. For example a hospital gets more funding if it performs a thousand heart surgery operations per year then when it performs only a hundred. They are merely intended to measure costs at certain intervals. This planned system is used for every procedure in hospitals, and thusly also for euthanasia. Specifically excluding euthanasia from this policy would be discrimination, because it would mean that funding for it would have to be taken away from treatment procedures in order to fund it. This would, in the opinion of our government, be an undesirable situation for obvious reasons.

I hope that our policy has been explained sufficiently and that any misunderstandings have been cleared up. Our hospitals are not concentration camps for the elderly. I hope and trust that the visit may continue as planned.

~Hans van Mierlo
Minister of Foreign Affairs

OOC:
*reminds Sys on the conditions attached in the SATO thread.*
*embraces Iesus' foot and nibbles on his toes*

“Mr. President, I understand we have been invited here to solve the problems that the boycotts have caused together, considering the discussions in SATO. Would you like to make an opening statement?”

"Gladly," responds Sukothai. "The primary issue here, at least from the boycotter's perspective, is your funding of euthanasia and abortion. It is, from their perspective,..."

Our perspective, he didn't say.

"...a matter of where they money goes. When someone buys a Knootian product, naturally, some of that money spent on that product will eventually go to the Knootian government, either through direct Knootian taxation of the product or taxation of the Knootian company. The Knootian government than spends some of that money on supporting euthanasia and abortion. Therefore, to buy Knootian products is to give financially support abortion and euthanasia. As the Catholic faith considers such things abhorrent and sins before God, the therefore cease to buy Knootian stuff.

Stop funding abortion and euthanasia, and the boycott ends. Simple as that."

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia

“Mr. President, I understand we have been invited here to solve the problems that the boycotts have caused together, considering the discussions in SATO. Would you like to make an opening statement?”

"Gladly," responds Sukothai. "The primary issue here, at least from the boycotter's perspective, is your funding of euthanasia and abortion. It is, from their perspective,..."

Our perspective, he didn't say.

"...a matter of where they money goes. When someone buys a Knootian product, naturally, some of that money spent on that product will eventually go to the Knootian government, either through direct Knootian taxation of the product or taxation of the Knootian company. The Knootian government than spends some of that money on supporting euthanasia and abortion. Therefore, to buy Knootian products is to give financially support abortion and euthanasia. As the Catholic faith considers such things abhorrent and sins before God, the therefore cease to buy Knootian stuff.

Stop funding abortion and euthanasia, and the boycott ends. Simple as that."

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia

“Mr. President”, says de Vries pleadingly, “I hope I do not have to remind you of the conditions we discussed before this meeting. I hope you do remember it: Knootian domestic policies would NOT be the subject of discussion at any point in mediation and we are expecting a constructive attitude from the Syskeyian government and behaviour becoming an ally. End quote.”

Mrs. Limoen also looks at president Sukothai and replies to him in his native language. (OOC:latin?) ; “We are aware of your… difficulties… with some our domestic policies. But please try to understand that in a democracy, laws cannot be overturned by foreign pressure. It is simply not a viable means.

Mrs. Limoen also looks at president Sukothai and replies to him in his native language. (OOC:latin?)

OOC: No. English.

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia

OOC: well, English then. *awaits IC response*

What if Knootoss agreed to gradually decrease their funding of abortions and euthinasia at a gradually increasing ammount until they reached 50% of current support, and Syskeyia could give them a small lump sum to be retrobution for the lost goods and then also agreed to end the embargo.

Just a peaceful third party input!

Happy Day,
Rhodesialand

What if Knootoss agreed to gradually decrease their funding of abortions and euthinasia at a gradually increasing ammount until they reached 50% of current support, and Syskeyia could give them a small lump sum to be retrobution for the lost goods and then also agreed to end the embargo.

Just a peaceful third party input!

Happy Day,
Rhodesialand

OOC:
Sorry, but are you totally ignorant of international politics? What am I, his vassal state? And just insituting boycoytts would force me to compromise? I think not.

How about this:
Nation A: "I boycott you because I don't like the colour of your hair!"
Nation B: "I like purple and I'm allowed to do so. Whay boycott? I thought we were friends?"
Nation C (you): "The reasonable compromise would be to force nation A to turn his hair into a more normal colour."

Everyone and his dog would start boycotts to get their way.

Frankly, these talks are only needed to avoid retalliatory actions. These diplomats ICly stated to come here only if domestic policies would NOT be the subject of discussion. No sovereign nation allows himself to be pushed around by some church fatcats in another nation. Sys did read that. If Sys continues to blahblah about his personal beliefs it will be a VERY short meeting followed by some nasty countermeasures.

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I know you are online Sys, if this takes much longer I will consider these talks to have failed and initiate sactions. Please respond.

“Mr. President”, says de Vries pleadingly, “I hope I do not have to remind you of the conditions we discussed before this meeting. I hope you do remember it: Knootian domestic policies would NOT be the subject of discussion at any point in mediation and we are expecting a constructive attitude from the Syskeyian government and behaviour becoming an ally. End quote.”

Mrs. Limoen also looks at president Sukothai and replies to him in his native language. (OOC:latin?) ; “We are aware of your… difficulties… with some our domestic policies. But please try to understand that in a democracy, laws cannot be overturned by foreign pressure. It is simply not a viable means.

"Very well then," Sukothai says. "since Knootian domestic policy, which is the reason for the boycott, cannot be discussed, then there is nothing to talk about. I will, however, assure you of this: from this time onward, the Republic of Syskeyia is officially neutral in regards to the boycotts. Our citizens can choose to boycott Knootoss, or they can choose not to. We don't care. If you wish to discuss this matter furhter with the pro-life leaders here, you may."

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia

"I had hoped that it would not have to come to this", said de Vries and he let out a deep sigh. "But if you insist on not doing anything you wilfully risk this."

"Mr. Merry?", he said turning to the junior attaché." The boy blushed again, and looked through his pile of documents. "ah, here it is," he muttered as he handed a 23-page document to president Sukothai.

Mrs. Miloen spoke coldly as the Syskeyian accepted the document: "In this document you will find a list of sanctions and their timetable that will be implemented when your organisations continue their boycott, and more specifically when your government refuses to do anything against it. You will find a summary on the last page."

De Vries continued: "Let me be frank with you, your will be SATO's undoing if it continues on its path and we will have no part of it. Knootian resignation from the organisation will be (OOC: 'is', now) just a first step. If the boycotts continue we will have no choice but to initiate a full economic embargo on your nation. As you can see on the timetable we will ask other nations to join in later."

He dramatically paused for a moment, then the ambassador turned to the 'anti-choice' group. "If this is still refused an international arrest warrant will be issued against the heads of those organisations heading the boycott. That’s you gentlemen." He eyed them one by one. "If you do not know what this means for you then by all means ask Mrs. Limoen."

Mrs. Limoen added: "And we all know how poorly Syskeyia protects its citizens abroad."

Mrs. Limoen coughed, hoping to provoke a response.

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So that Knootoss dosen't suffer potential economic losses due to the boycott, Automagfreek is herby offering to reopen trade relations effective immediatly.


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---Damien Dreadfire---
-Supreme Dictator of AMF-
Ruler of The Ancient Republic of Greek Forces, The Silent Protectorate of Old Frankland, The Holy Kingdom of The Royal Knights, The Mentally Superior Republic of Arrogant Uber Geniuses, The Raving Lunatics of Hackers Demise

OOC: AMF; I sent you the same telegram again with some added rhetoric on traiterous Syskeyian scum

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