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Join the region GCON. We insure we will watch your back and help your nation on its way to greatness. We only accept members opposed to the UN. If you join you must follow our laws posted on the GCON website. Some are punishable by ejection others not so severe. Don't delay enlist today!

The Federation would urge all nations to boycott GCON as it is an irrational terrorist organization and would be detrimental to your nation's welfare and development.

The Federation would urge all nations to boycott GCON as it is an irrational terrorist organization and would be detrimental to your nation's welfare and development.

THATS IT YOU MESSED WITH THE BULL NOW HERE COMES THE HORN!!! YOU SPEAK ONLY LIES I AM TOTALY AGAINST TERRORISM!!! TO WAR!!!!

Wow, it looks like somebody got a little overexited.

Anyone that doesn't believe the comments I made needs to do only two things:

1. Look at the way he responded
2. Look at the record of National Ruin, Tyrantis, and GCON as a whole

This is a tele I recieved from him

Your sovereign is apparently a lying sack of shit.

And, as war as no consequences in this game, I dare you to try.

At least I don't swear. And your record isn't exactly clean either.

It'd be nice for everyone if you'd post the telegrams leading up to that, and not edit them either. That line about war consequences, I don't recall posting that.

I deleted all of the fantastic telegrams he sent me, so as to avoid clogging my inbox with useless trash. He went on about how I was forcing National Ruin to pay war reparations, and that I placed an orbital weapons platform above the capital. I know nothing about this and told him so. I also requested that he show proof.

His response was that his sovereign doesn't lie, am I calling him a lier.

Hence the 'sack of shit' line.

And regarding our records, I'm glad you don't deny the horrible state of your own. And, rather than BSing, perhaps you'd like to point to where mine isn't 'clean'?

I am glad you are so clever to call everyone a lier when you are the one lying. You put that on their I dont care what you say. Also now as you blab thousands are dying in your region so it is useless to continue these insults.

I'm not being insulting, I'm illuminating the issue.

OOC: And if you want to declare war, I suggest you do it on the International board

OOC: I dont care you worthless little noob.

OOC: Noob? Pardon? On the board I have ambassador status, you have envoy status. While your population is bigger than mine, it's not ridiculously so. Also, I have my own region of which I am the delegate and founder. With about 17 nations. Not too bad for a 'worthless noob.'

If you want to start name-calling, go for it, but I won't be lowered to your level.

Calm down, kids. If you must continue, take it elsewhere.

You got a nation of 236 as your largest nation. I am cofounder of GCON and head of its military and GCON only well lets see 47 nations and each are well above 100 million. And our largest has over one billion.

Calm down, kids. If you must continue, take it elsewhere.

Good to see you again American this noob keeps calling me a weak little lier and claims to not being insulting.

Another one? You n00bs and godmodders can't just stick to one thread can you. Now you're going to get beaten into the ground here, everyone is going to declare war on you and as usual you'll ignore them but at the same time uphold your own war claims. pathetic.

I am not at war with you but if you declare war on me I will destroy you as I am head of the military of GCON.

He called me a bloody terrorist GCON has never done such. Now by the way how am I a godmod or a noob?

The Federation would urge all nations to boycott GCON as it is an irrational terrorist organization and would be detrimental to your nation's welfare and development.

Very constructive comment, Soltak. It looks to me as if you want to URGE Tyrantis into getting "overexcited" as you so cleverly put it. and by the way, we are not terrorists by a long shot. We are simply a coalition who wish to express our views. And if you deny us that right, then the UN is everything we label it. Oppressive, Impirical, Tyrranical. Indeed. And do not underestimate a nation simply by what they are labeled on the forum. Envoy, Ambassador. We're all equals here (unless the UN denies that as well).
And as far as Tyrantis "proving himself" do you have any evidence that the orbital weapons DONT exist? :wink:

Actually, that was me who put the orbital weapons platform above NR. I have removed all of them to their default orbits though.

Join GCON Today The Region of the Future!

Then the future of the world isn't too promising.

It's more promising than the commie UN

He called me a bloody terrorist GCON has never done such. Now by the way how am I a godmod or a noob?

Tyrantis- just ignore Layarteb. He thinks that any nation that has a stronger military than he has is god-modding.

He also at one point told me that he supported GCON and would back us up (until it came time to fight, then he hauled ass).

I wonder if, in some loose interpretation, we could call the constant making of new threads by these GCON nations spamming? Which perhaps could then result in punishments so that we wouldn't have to keep listening to their pathetic propaganda.

This is a note to all GCON nations:

In several of your previous threads you have been attacked by other allied nations, yet whenever that happens you abandon the thread and make a new one. This is against roleplaying rules. You cannot ignore a legitimate attack by other nations and you must respond accordingly. Unless you all start actually RPing, your reputation, as lowly as it already is, will just continue to plummet.

You don't seem to understand, all the threads we create where UN members attack us- is derailment.

Think about it- just about every thread we have created has had something to do with recruitment, or an alliance being formed- yet you all ALWAYS derail it and turn it into a war RP.

Quit derailing our threads! If you want a war with us, then create an entirely new topic about it. But don't derail other topics (as you all have done here too).

Hmm....personally, I think the GCON is just one of those two-bit 'I gotta be a rebel' Regions, with a chip on its collective shoulder. As shown in Tyrantis' instant-tirade and willingess to go to war (though, as shown in the past, he and his cohorts would likely abandon the front line), this gaggle of nations is always going to disagree with just about anything anyone posts.

'Course now, little Tyrantis is probably gonna declare war on my country...in which case, I must remind him and his buddies, war declarations belong in 'International Incidents'.

These wouldn't have happened, had you not admitted to planning war with the UN and it's nations. We simply are supporting our allies. Plus, had Itsokasi had not declared war on Vulcanus, most of us would not be here. FURTHER MORE, If you admit to planning war against us [the UN] then how come we don't have the right to go to war with you in order to prevent you from getting strong for your war?

Now as for the terrorism accusations, I accuse you of no terrorism. But, you support terrorists.

These wouldn't have happened, had you not admitted to planning war with the UN and it's nations. We simply are supporting our allies. Plus, had Itsokasi had not declared war on Vulcanus, most of us would not be here. FURTHER MORE, If you admit to planning war against us [the UN] then how come we don't have the right to go to war with you in order to prevent you from getting strong for your war?

We explained our causes against Vulcanus quite clearly. GCON was being threatened by them.

National Ruin took pre-emptive action, and yet you all attacked anyway. If you were to strike GCON without any kind of provocation (no matter what we may or may not be planning), then it would expose you all as hypocrites.

It is a regions soverign right to plan anything they want anyway.

Now as for the terrorism accusations, I accuse you of no terrorism. But, you support terrorists.

If you refer to my support of Terristan (I withdrew from that thread BTW, because Mcleod03 started firing 'magical lasers' to destroy my missiles)- then it was simply the lesser of 2 evils.

I refer to Terristan's actions as guerrilla fighting, you refer to them as terrorism.

GCON supports all regions and nations that are against the UN.

Those "magical lasers" happen to actually have been tested in the 80's by both the US and the USSR as SDI systems.

There have also been more recent developments by the US in anti-missile laser technology...fairly successful, I might add. Now if I could just find that movie clip...

Now as for the terrorism accusations, I accuse you of no terrorism. But, you support terrorists.

If you refer to my support of Terristan (I withdrew from that thread BTW, because Mcleod03 started firing 'magical lasers' to destroy my missiles)- then it was simply the lesser of 2 evils.

I refer to Terristan's actions as guerrilla fighting, you refer to them as terrorism.

GCON supports all regions and nations that are against the UN.

No, I'm talking about A Corp. Terrorism is causing fear by a person or person(s) forcing on them ideals.

A Corp has, and this is true, HAS threatened small-very small- nations with destruction if they do not leave the UN. Those are unprovoked attacks. That is also causing fear of them to achieve their political ideals.
I have no clue whatsoever what Terristan does...

On the stuff about Itsokasi and Vulcanus: Yes, but he said "because they are UN harboring fools". That is suggesting that because they harbor UN member nations that you declared war. That is how the war started. Yes, but if you plan the actions, aren't you going to, most likely carry them out? That is conspiracy, and if it is allowed to go on, you could very well achieve your strength to start a war with them. We are trying to prevent a war like that.

I never have even been on the front line. The nations you refered to were acting on their own and did not have the GCON militarys accordence. As of now I will gladly take anyone on that would like so.

If you are calling us terrorists for supporting a nation trying to gain its freedom from the UN then you are calling the USA terrorists for gaining its independance from Great Britain. Now everyone shut up and listen I hold no aggresion to anyone because now we realize that their was a cannon. that their just proved I was not in fact a lier. Now GCON is at war with the UN's military not their supporters. I dont want to fight any of you. Look we all want the same thing we want the commies out of power. So stop derailing our enlistments into war. That way we wont have to keep making these. That is like me going up to the statue of liberty and putting up a big banner that says turn around. Now then can we come to an understanding about this I stoped attacking Vulcanus. (After I started) Also when it came down to it Vulcanus was the one who didn't follow through. Just so you know Vulcanus I am done playing with you and I am issuing an order stating that no GCON nation is allowed to ever attack you again unless you attack us.

I never have even been on the front line. The nations you refered to were acting on their own and did not have the GCON militarys accordence. As of now I will gladly take anyone on that would like so.

I wouldn't make posts like that if I were an October nation backed mainly by other October/August/November etc 2003 nations.

Backed by 40 plus nations and other region allies. And just look what Germany did war is all about tactics. Remember a chess game can still be won if you have three pieces

If you are calling us terrorists for supporting a nation trying to gain its freedom from the UN then you are calling the USA terrorists for gaining its independance from Great Britain. Now everyone shut up and listen I hold no aggresion to anyone because now we realize that their was a cannon. that their just proved I was not in fact a lier. Now GCON is at war with the UN's military not their supporters. I dont want to fight any of you. Look we all want the same thing we want the commies out of power. So stop derailing our enlistments into war. That way we wont have to keep making these. That is like me going up to the statue of liberty and putting up a big banner that says turn around. Now then can we come to an understanding about this I stoped attacking Vulcanus. (After I started) Also when it came down to it Vulcanus was the one who didn't follow through. Just so you know Vulcanus I am done playing with you and I am issuing an order stating that no GCON nation is allowed to ever attack you again unless you attack us.

I am, in no way, calling GCON a terrorist organized region. I am saying that you support terrorists, A Corp.

I thank you for that order. May our nations all be at peace, or let the war destroy us all.

He called me a bloody terrorist GCON has never done such. Now by the way how am I a godmod or a noob?

Tyrantis- just ignore Layarteb. He thinks that any nation that has a stronger military than he has is god-modding.

He also at one point told me that he supported GCON and would back us up (until it came time to fight, then he hauled ass).

Just you.

for clarification purposes. I only sugested a force be set up following this logic. We preeted a war. I expected revenge. So, to prevent an attack a few days later we just asked that GCON wouldnt attack us. The only other way to prevent future war is military sanctions or regime change. I think just to ask somone not to attack us is the best option. If you can offer a better option I will gladly accept it.

Also plan against the UN. In 5 steps.
1. You flood the UN with many inactive nations, so the quorum is higher.
2. Make fierce resistance, calling the UN inffective. Also make the UN seem right sided so the commies leave.
3. Try to rally people to your cause, calling the other side evil ect.
4. As the other side becomes more and more anti UN, increase raical right policies.
5. As the balance shifts make more moderate policies that can get through.

You always have the best ideas.

this is pathetic....

this is pathetic....


wow, i actually have to agree with you on this one...

this is pathetic....


wow, i actually have to agree with you on this one...

All hail the holy Euroslavia with 777 posts!

Yes, HAIL!

As far as i am concerned, i ahve a belief. That belief is that the UN is an imperialist coalition of nations. MOst nations in the UN are only there because they are hella gnoobs and just figured "Hey, why not?"
That is my belief, and i am defending that belief in this thread. If anyone has any VALID attacks at anything i say, please tell me and i will back up my own claims. However, for god's sake, can we stop the name calling bull shit please? Of course A Corp is a terrorist organization. A self proclaimed one at that, but you have to realize that as fellow nations who are anti-UN, we are simply using them as mutual assets. We help them, they help us. There is nothing immoral about this, pre-imperial Japan used similar tactics, i believe. We are doing all we can to protect ant-imperial values, and if you want to call us mere rabble-rousers, give us some actual PROOF to that claim rather than this he said she said bull!

I have nothing against a group of nations helping eachother. All I have is people starting crusades even if they are valid reasons. If GCON wants to be a place for non UN contries okay, but it doesnt have to spread that to other regions.
In all respects the UN is extreamly weak. Participation is voluntary, the resolutions havfe to be passed by everyone, not represenatives, UN Delegacy power is optional and many more. Every government in the world is stronger, even Yemen's which is fighting a crime netwrok possibly as organised.

To quote from the world factbook: Global Coalition of Nations stands for fighting for what is right and what is right is determined by the Global Assembly which will include a delegate from all nations within GCON. We will conquer all till the land is red with blood and fire! After speaking with the other countries I have agreeded not to give the UN another chance.

fighting for what is right
We will conquer all till the land is red with blood and fire!
I dont think those are peaceful statements, but I could be wrong.

sorry

Now I'm just tired of this. GCON, here is a proposition: You leave me, New Orion, and her allies alone we'll leave you alone. Listen now I really don't care what they do as long as they don't bother me or my business. They can strip themselves naked, cover themselves with bacon greese and run throught the fields for all I care!
Can we go one thread concerning GCON without rushing for the guns?

Now I'm just tired of this. GCON, here is a proposition: You leave me, New Orion, and her allies alone we'll leave you alone. Listen now I really don't care what they do as long as they don't bother me or my business. They can strip themselves naked, cover themselves with bacon greese and run throught the fields for all I care!
Can we go one thread concerning GCON without rushing for the guns?

As far as i am concerned, i ahve a belief. That belief is that the UN is an imperialist coalition of nations. MOst nations in the UN are only there because they are hella GNOOBS and just figured "Hey, why not?"


No, the term you are looking for is Newb. A noob, or n00b, is one who is a completely bad player. Take this example. A noob would: Ignore good posts, and, in the same thread make his own and say that we shouldn't ignore his/her posts. Furthermore, he, as an experienced nation, would Godmode.

As far as i am concerned, i ahve a belief. That belief is that the UN is an imperialist coalition of nations. MOst nations in the UN are only there because they are hella gnoobs and just figured "Hey, why not?"
That is my belief, and i am defending that belief in this thread. If anyone has any VALID attacks at anything i say, please tell me and i will back up my own claims. However, for god's sake, can we stop the name calling bull shit please? Of course A Corp is a terrorist organization. A self proclaimed one at that, but you have to realize that as fellow nations who are anti-UN, we are simply using them as mutual assets. We help them, they help us. There is nothing immoral about this, pre-imperial Japan used similar tactics, i believe. We are doing all we can to protect ant-imperial values, and if you want to call us mere rabble-rousers, give us some actual PROOF to that claim rather than this he said she said bull!


just because im in the UN, doesnt make me a n00b. I joined it because I wanted to be part of a group that allied diverse nations across the world, and to help less fortunate nations in whatever they needed. Now i admit, some of the proposals are B.S., but the UN cant be perfect. Oh, and you should read the description of the GCON region. Maybe you missed it...

As far as i am concerned, i ahve a belief. That belief is that the UN is an imperialist coalition of nations. MOst nations in the UN are only there because they are hella gnoobs and just figured "Hey, why not?"
That is my belief, and i am defending that belief in this thread. If anyone has any VALID attacks at anything i say, please tell me and i will back up my own claims. However, for god's sake, can we stop the name calling bull shit please? Of course A Corp is a terrorist organization. A self proclaimed one at that, but you have to realize that as fellow nations who are anti-UN, we are simply using them as mutual assets. We help them, they help us. There is nothing immoral about this, pre-imperial Japan used similar tactics, i believe. We are doing all we can to protect ant-imperial values, and if you want to call us mere rabble-rousers, give us some actual PROOF to that claim rather than this he said she said bull!


just because im in the UN, doesnt make me a n00b. I joined it because I wanted to be part of a group that allied diverse nations across the world, and to help less fortunate nations in whatever they needed. Now i admit, some of the proposals are B.S., but the UN cant be perfect. Oh, and you should read the description of the GCON region. Maybe you missed it...

Thank you for the CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. Its the first I've seen on this thread. lol. It appears we are running a definitions debate here. Thank you Sen Texario for correcting me. I am used to other forums' terminology in which "gnoob" means newbies. Anyways.. Euroslavia, i said MOST nations in the UN were..newbies, not all. Indeed, i must say, it would appear by your activities that neither of you are "noobs." Regardless, it IS true, a lot of the UN members in NS are in fact new players who joined because they see it as a fundamental part of the game. Also, i DO realize what the GCON WFE says. And honestly, i dont think it is relevant to this thread at all. If EVERYTHING in a WFE was to be taken seriously, an awful lot of relatively peaceful regions could be considered war-mongers. Besides, did i say anywhere that we would not attack if provoked or otherwise?

Now I'm just tired of this. GCON, here is a proposition: You leave me, New Orion, and her allies alone we'll leave you alone. Listen now I really don't care what they do as long as they don't bother me or my business. They can strip themselves naked, cover themselves with bacon greese and run throught the fields for all I care!
Can we go one thread concerning GCON without rushing for the guns?

If GCON is ever attacked by Vulcanus (as it is looking like will happen), then we will take action. What you say is completely irrevelant in the matter if that happens.

As a region it is our soverign right to defend ourselves.

If Vulcanus attacks us, then we will fire back at them......and anyone else who stands in our way.

The Communist party neither supports or endorces the UN.

I'm sure most other Communist nations will support this view.

It's more promising than the commie UN

Thought I'd throw in the quote.

The Communist party neither supports or endorces the UN.

I'm sure most other Communist nations will support this view.

This is sort of true. Let's look at the real world UN. It's purpose is inherently good and inherently very honorable. However, it has a bias against America and against Israel, hell the UN is against Israel whenever it can be and even when it shouldn't be. Now the UN is not fond of fascism nor is it fond of communism. But the socialist liberals love it. While a commie and a socialist can be one in the same there are vast differences.

The Communist party neither supports or endorces the UN.

I'm sure most other Communist nations will support this view.

This is sort of true. Let's look at the real world UN. It's purpose is inherently good and inherently very honorable. However, it has a bias against America and against Israel, hell the UN is against Israel whenever it can be and even when it shouldn't be. Now the UN is not fond of fascism nor is it fond of communism. But the socialist liberals love it. While a commie and a socialist can be one in the same there are vast differences.

First of al, NS politics and RL politics are not the same. Also, Communism is (in theory) a good thing. As is Soacialism, however, when put to practical use in politics (Cuba in example) both often fail. We feel the UN is imperial and promotes immoral capitalist (big man benefitting off of little man's loss) views and theories. The fact remains, we are merely supporting our views by recruiting other nations to our cause. We also advocate the use of action to achieve our goals. THere is nothing wrong with this and if the UN decides to try to stop us, they have justified ALL of my claims.

The Communist party neither supports or endorces the UN.

I'm sure most other Communist nations will support this view.

This is sort of true. Let's look at the real world UN. It's purpose is inherently good and inherently very honorable. However, it has a bias against America and against Israel, hell the UN is against Israel whenever it can be and even when it shouldn't be. Now the UN is not fond of fascism nor is it fond of communism. But the socialist liberals love it. While a commie and a socialist can be one in the same there are vast differences.

First of al, NS politics and RL politics are not the same. Also, Communism is (in theory) a good thing. As is Soacialism, however, when put to practical use in politics (Cuba in example) both often fail. We feel the UN is imperial and promotes immoral capitalist (big man benefitting off of little man's loss) views and theories. The fact remains, we are merely supporting our views by recruiting other nations to our cause. We also advocate the use of action to achieve our goals. THere is nothing wrong with this and if the UN decides to try to stop us, they have justified ALL of my claims.

sorry for the double post. :roll:

Don't go saying things are good or bad, unless there is at least a 99% consensus. I would hate living in communism.

-double post-

I have to agree. There's no way that I'd want to work my ass off my whole life, just to support other people (besides myself and a potential family).

However with that said, we believe that Communism is beginning a slow and gradual takeover of the UN, and that it must be cleansed.

Yes, but none of thes pro-communist proposals or anti-democracy proposals have come close to reaching quorum, which is a very good thing. Communism is only good on paper. When inflicted on people, it usually doesn't work well.

The Communist party neither supports or endorces the UN.

I'm sure most other Communist nations will support this view.

This is sort of true. Let's look at the real world UN. It's purpose is inherently good and inherently very honorable. However, it has a bias against America and against Israel, hell the UN is against Israel whenever it can be and even when it shouldn't be. Now the UN is not fond of fascism nor is it fond of communism. But the socialist liberals love it. While a commie and a socialist can be one in the same there are vast differences.

First of al, NS politics and RL politics are not the same. Also, Communism is (in theory) a good thing. As is Soacialism, however, when put to practical use in politics (Cuba in example) both often fail. We feel the UN is imperial and promotes immoral capitalist (big man benefitting off of little man's loss) views and theories. The fact remains, we are merely supporting our views by recruiting other nations to our cause. We also advocate the use of action to achieve our goals. THere is nothing wrong with this and if the UN decides to try to stop us, they have justified ALL of my claims.

Governments that have socialist programs are working successes. Britain, Canada, many European countries etc. Cuba being communism is failing day after day. As far as the UN thriving off of the losses of little people that's the saddest thing I've heard yet. If anything the UN cares more about the minority than the majority.

Well, Communism seems to be working just fine for our country.

The ideal, utopian world is a communist world. A communist world with a capatlist idiolgy (working to better your standings). EVERYONE, and I mean EVERYONE would be rich.

So a rich version of communism, where everyone would be billionaires? Would jobs be chosen for you or could you choose your job? Or would the universal job be CEO of a company?

I still simply don't like the idea of working, just so my dollars can go to other people (kind of like taxes)

Or would the universal job be CEO of a company?

:roll:

Ovbiously jobs would have to remain the same. Yes you still need the farmer, the trucker, the miner.

Well, Communism seems to be working just fine for our country.

The ideal, utopian world is a communist world. A communist world with a capatlist idiolgy (working to better your standings). EVERYONE, and I mean EVERYONE would be rich.

Hmm let's see.

Communism: You work and keep nothing, it all goes to the state. You have no individuality, no earn nothing, you get whatever you need, whenever (ideally as we know this is a total economic failure). Your nothing more than a robot for the state without individuality, freedom, etc.

Capitalism: You earn what you get. Sure there is a lot of evil stuff but its not the system its the people. Capitalism you work your way up to wherever you get. You have individuality and accomplishment, you have incentive, and you have humanity.

Hmmm? I'm going to go out on a limb and say I'll take #2. But hell I'm an empire so I rule it all. HAHAHAHAHA

Are GCON and the UN actually agreeing on something. Most intriguing. Congrats to new GCON president Alan Jones of Bigmenistan also.

The beauty of this simulation is you can fully endorce something you might not REALLY belive in.

I mean, I heart communism.

I heart world domination.

About the whole 'Communism vs Capitalism' debate-

I prefer to keep my political freedoms thank you. Communism just aint for me.