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Used military equipment wanted. (CLOSED)

Khrrck
29-12-2003, 03:02
I'm done with this topic; I'm just keeping it alive for reference purposes.

We have recently allocated $750,000,000 to do some much-needed modernization and upgrades of our military.

We are willing to buy used or obsolete military equipment.

What We Want:
Fighter Aircraft (prefrably two-seater)
Transport Aircraft
AA Equipment (missiles or guns)
Aircraft Weaponry (preferably guns)
Steel (decent quality)
Technology and Blueprints will be considered.


What We Will Not Buy:
Personal Armor
Flamethrowers

UPDATE:
We've got all the fighters we need.
We've could do with a few more transports.
We've found that we must design our own tanks.
We've stated that we do not need nuclear weapons.
We've got all the steel we need.

We are still interested in:
Antiaircraft weaponry
Light/Medium tranports
Assorted tech & blueprints
Heavy infantry weaponry (weight is no problem, so don't worry if it's normally a two-man weapon)

Khrrck Minister of Purchases
Kz'jak'ar

[OOC: When I say we accept obsolete equipment, I mean it. Korea-vintage aircraft, 15-year-old AA guns, whatever. We'll also accept prototypes; experimental aircraft which may have proved impractical or were never produced in large numbers. Lack of available spare parts isn't a problem.]
29-12-2003, 03:04
.::Nanakaland Used Equipment Storefront::. (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=109177)
Zeronia
29-12-2003, 03:26
Zeronia
29-12-2003, 03:27
We can offer you cheap hot-rolled steel sheets in bulk. Our current price is ζ137 500 ZC/ton ($250 USD/ton). We only ship a minimum of 50 tons.

We can also sell two of our older Antonov An-225 transports for ζ49 500 000 000 ZC ($90 000 000 USD) each.
Zeronia
29-12-2003, 03:28
We can offer you cheap hot-rolled steel sheets in bulk. Our current price is ζ137 500 ZC/ton ($250 USD/ton). We only ship a minimum of 50 tons.

We can also sell two of our older Antonov An-225 transports for ζ49 500 000 000 ZC ($90 000 000 USD) each.
Khrrck
29-12-2003, 03:38
We shall purchase 200 tons of steel. Will you handle the shipping, or should we send a freighter?

Could you provide specifications for the transports?

Khrrck Minister of Purchases, Kz'jak'ar
Zeronia
29-12-2003, 03:43
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/art/photogallery/parisairshow/photos/photo07.jpg

Well, the Antonov 225 is simply the largest aircraft that ever set sail in the deep blue sky! Specifications can be found here. (http://www.xp-office.de/an225-technical.htm)

And yes, we will handle shipping. Give us port information and we will ship within three weeks.
Khrrck
29-12-2003, 03:54
We have no need for such an oversized transport.

Requested information:

Port Location: (coordinates)
Port Name: Anrak
Max Ship Size: Ships up to 253ft by 84ft can fit in the harbor.
Longest Dock: Dock 4b: 200ft
Cargo Loading/Unloading Facilities: 40-ton crane on Dock 4b, 10-ton cranes on Docks 4a and 3b, pump&store facilities on dock 4b.

Storage is ample.


Khrrck Minister of Purchases, Kz'jak'ar
Zeronia
29-12-2003, 15:59
We have staff working on your purchase as we speak. Expect the shipment to come in within three weeks.

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/zeronia.jpg
Seňor Eduardo Castro
Minister of International Trade
People's Republic of Zeronia
29-12-2003, 16:35
We have blueprints for a semi automatic wrist rocket for hunting dogs. We are currently testing calibres and materials. Could be economically mounted to any armored vehicle.

Damn this is geeky. :wink:

Korean vintage aircraft fly over me every day. (True story)
29-12-2003, 17:01
We can sell you some used grenades. :wink:
Clan Smoke Jaguar
29-12-2003, 17:25
M60A1 MBT (http://www.army-technology.com/projects/m60/images/m60_tank4.jpg)
Crew: 4
Combat Weight: 52,617 kg
Max Speed: 48.28 km/h
Max Range: 480 km
Armament: 1x105mm, 1x7.62mm CMG, 1x7.62mm AAMG
Armor: 250mm
This is an old, Vietnam-era tank. In addition to the less advanced fire control and communications gear, it lacks the composite armor of most modern tanks, and is thus much more vulnerable to HEAT projectiles. However, it has only a fraction of the cost of newer models, and the 105mm gun (a variant of the exceptional British 105mm L7) gives it decent firepower. The vehicle is also quite easily upgraded, which makes it good for armies that are just starting out.
Cost: $300,000 (used)

M48A5 MBT (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/images/m48a5-1.gif)
Crew: 4
Combat Weight: 49,987 kg
Max Speed: 48.2 km,h
Max Range: 498 km
Armament: 1x105mm, 3x7.62mm MG
Armor: 220mm
This is an upgraded version of the old Korean War-era M48, giving it the armament and fire control of the later M60. Though not as advanced as the M60, it's even cheaper, and still has room for improvements.
Cost: $200,000 (used)

Be advised that we are currently committed elsewhere, and will thus require you to handle shipping yourself.
Khrrck
30-12-2003, 01:25
Clan Smoke Jaguar, your tanks will be excellent for our purposes. However:

Because of our physiology, we need altered seating. Is the tank's seating arranged side-by-side or lengthwise?
If it is arranged lengthwise, can we rip out a pair of seats and install our custom seating?
Afterwards, will we be able to operate the tank or adapt the controls so we can operate it?


Hot Noodle Soup: Could you elaborate on your description of the semi-automatic rocket? What is the price?


Barvaria-Studenland: We can make our own grenades, thank you.


Anyone else: We're still wanting fighter and light transport aircraft.
Aircraft in which we can rip out some existing weaponry and install one of our 'Shredder" 2" disc guns is preferred. We should be able to mount a Shredder on any available hardpoints or weapon mounts, although through-the-propeller use will be difficult.


Khrrck Minister of Purchases, Kz'jak'ar
Anti-Nazis
30-12-2003, 02:53
I will give you 500 C-130 Transport Aircraft.
Khrrck
31-12-2003, 03:13
You'll have to be more specific.
Tomzilla
31-12-2003, 04:26
i will give you 10 A6M2 Zero fighters (their from World War 2)
Clan Smoke Jaguar
31-12-2003, 06:16
Clan Smoke Jaguar, your tanks will be excellent for our purposes. However:

Because of our physiology, we need altered seating. Is the tank's seating arranged side-by-side or lengthwise?
If it is arranged lengthwise, can we rip out a pair of seats and install our custom seating?
Afterwards, will we be able to operate the tank or adapt the controls so we can operate it?

Khrrck Minister of Purchases, Kz'jak'ar
Hmmm. If you can't work them as it is, you're best off designing your own tanks to fit your phisiology. These vehicles tend to be a bit cramped. As for the seating. The commander sits in the right-hand side of the turret, with the gunner a little below and to the left. The loader is in front of them and lower still, and the driver is in the front hull, centered just in front of the turret. This picture (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/images/m-60a1-dvic349.jpg) shows the location of the commander, gunner, and driver. The loader doesn't have his own hatch, but he's centered between the other three. The seats can be modified, but the locations cannot. However, if only minor modifications are needed, you might be able to work with this model, whereas there'd be absolutely no chance with Soviet tanks like the T-55/62/72. Those have far less interior space.
Khrrck
31-12-2003, 22:21
Clan Smoke Jaguar: That little space, eh? We'll design our own.

Tomzilla: Please be more specific. How much will they cost? What condition are they in? What are they armed with, etc.


Khrrck Minister of Purchases, Kz'jak'ar
Tomzilla
31-12-2003, 23:28
the A6M2 Zero fighter cost 500 dollars in Tomzilla currency each, are in good condition, and are armed with 2 machine guns, two cannon guns, and come with one optional 250 kilogram bomb each
Khrrck
01-01-2004, 03:18
[OOC: Please don't offer to sell things you obviously know almost nothing about. Bump.]
Tomzilla
01-01-2004, 03:54
well, if you are saying I don't know anything about my favorite fighter plane that instilled terror into the hearts of many allied pilots during World War Two, I will not sell them!!! :evil:
Dontgonearthere
01-01-2004, 04:13
Owner of the International Surplus (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=96053)
Khrrck
01-01-2004, 04:43
[OOC: Hey, hey, Tomzilla! I didn't mean to imply that you didn't know anything.
I'm simply pointing out that you don't seem to know enough to be selling them.
If you really want to sell them, I'd reccomend finding a webpage with detailed statistics.
And by the way, "500 dollars in Tomzilla currency" doesn't really say much. Put it in United States dollars, please.
And be aware, most of our current air force consists of vintage P-51 Mustangs (trainer type), so Zeros won't be much of an improvement.)]


We still need fighter aircraft, light/medium transports, and such.
Tomzilla
01-01-2004, 05:33
oh :( :( sorry. 500 dollars in U.S currency(it is the same in Tomzilla curency) if you want them. here are some stats


Specifications
One Pilot

One Nakajima NK1C Sakai 12 Engine
Twin-row 14 cylinder Air-cooled Radial
950 hp @ 3,100 rpm

Two 37 mm Cannons
(Type 99 mounted in the wings)
Two 7.7 mm Machine Guns
(Type 97 mounted in the upper fuselage decking)

Max. Speed 332 mph @ 15,000 feet
Cruise Speed 207 mph

Climb to 20,000 ft in 7.5 minutes
Service Ceiling 32,800 ft
Length 32' 8"
Height 12' 7"
Wing Span 38' 4"

Max. Weight 6,164 lbs
Empty Weight 3,704 lbs

Normal Fuel 141 gallons
(103 gal in two wing tanks & 38 gal in a fuselage tank)
Max. Fuel 228 gallons
(with 87 gal belly tank)

Normal Range 1,160 miles
Maximum Range 1,930 miles
Khrrck
02-01-2004, 02:10
[OOC: Much better. However, the price is still suspiciously low, and as I said, we don't need Zeros. BUMP.]
Tomzilla
02-01-2004, 15:01
ok
Khrrck
03-01-2004, 00:12
Bump-bump-bumpety-bump-boing.
Khrrck
07-01-2004, 05:09
Ned said to Ed: "Is this topic dead?"
Ed said to Ned: "Well, we'll see. We'll bump it and see."
Ed said: "If there is no reply, the topic is dead."
Ed said to Fred: "Bump the topic!"
Fred said: "BUMP!"
Khrrck
08-01-2004, 06:05
Fred said "I think the thread is dead."
Ned said "Bump it again. We need the stuff."
Ed said "Is the reason there's no stuff is that none's up to snuff?"
Ned said "Who cares? Bump it, Fred."
Fred said "BUMP!"
Tomzilla
10-01-2004, 01:27
I will sell you 500 Patriot anti-aircraft missles for $500,000 U.S. dollars each.
Khrrck
10-01-2004, 20:48
[OOC: OK. First, Tomzilla: Post stats for the Patriot. Then, explain just WHY you've suddenly jumped in tech level from Zeros to Patriots.]
10-01-2004, 21:29
We can sell you used and retired-from-service equipment. Our stocks include the following items:

Tanks:
T-55M (Finnish upgrade of T-55A - new Bofors fire control system, better than that of T-72M1 for example) # Centurion (Swedish upgraded version) # Strv 103 (a unique Swedish tank design from the 50s) # Ikv 91 (Swedish tank destroyer from the 70s)

Aircraft:
J35 Draken # J37 Viggen # MiG-21bis

If you are interested in more modern equipment, we could offer eg. Pasi XA series and AMV 8x8 armored personel carriers, CV90 series infantry fighting vehicles and JAS 39 Gripen fighters.

Prices will be determined in negotiations with purchaser.
10-01-2004, 21:41
Also note our cost-effective modernization kit for old Soviet MBTs such as T-72, T-64, T-62 and T-55 (if you happen to possess those that is): http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2558985
10-01-2004, 21:42
Khrrck,
I am a representative of the Surplus Ministry of the Armed Republic of Alsatia. We are offering to you for sale the following:
(5) Convair B58 Hustler: length 29m49, height 9m58, span 17m32, max speed 2229km/h, max weight 73936kg, ceiling 18290m, range 3219km, crew 3, engines 4, armament (1) 20mm cannon, 8823kg bomb load. Price is negotiable but a good starting point is A392,500A(500,000 USD) a piece. They are in overall goodshape but a good refitting wouldn't hurt them, they were last refitted in 1974(avionics, guidance systems). These lovely machines have been in our glorious air service since 1982 when we purchased them from the Air Force of Belize who had purchased them from the American Air Force in 1974(purchase price included the refit described above).
(5) LTV A7-D Corsair II: length 14m06, height 4m90, span 11m80, max speed 1112km/h, max weight 19050kg, ceiling 13100m, range 4540km, crew 1/2, engines 1, armament (1) 20mm cannon, (2) AIM-9 missles, 9072kg payload. These lovely supreme warriors of the sky have been in our glorious and illustrious air service since 1985 when we purchased them from the US Surplus Arms Program, they had originally served with great honor, duty and dignity in the USMC until they were decom'd in 1983. They are in good shape overall but again a refit of the electronics, guidance and other vital systems would something to think about. The asking price for these gallant gladiators is A588,850A(750,000 USD) a piece.
We can arrange delivery by flying them into a base of your preference or you may take delivery of them yourself, either by flying them out with your own crews or have our crews meet in a neutral country for the finishing of any transactions.
We would also like to offer you some of our finest cold rolled steel at the incredibly low price of A863A(1100 USD) per metric tonne. That price also includes a transportation charge of A117A(150 USD) per tonne. Our steel mills are located in the north of our country and since there are no ports near there the steel must be trucked 1500 miles to the port of Bayard in the South or 1200 miles to the port of Loffeld in the West as the mountain passes in the winter prohibit any shipping of steel(or any goods for that matter) over the Shipshe Mountains to the port of Granholmen in the east(500 miles distance). It would be our pleasure to do business with you and your great country. Hopefully we could interest you in a few of our Bayard Astradas, a very cheerful yet thrifty economy minded automobile that is available for export year round.
Greatfully yours,
Josiah Yoder-Peres
Minister of Martial Surplus
Tomzilla
11-01-2004, 01:10
1.) Here are stats:Patriot is a long-range, all-altitude, all-weather air defence system to counter tactical ballistic missiles, cruise missiles and advanced aircraft. Patriot (MIM-104) is produced by Raytheon in Massachusetts and Lockheed Martin Missiles and Fire Control in Florida.

As well as the USA, Patriot is in service with Germany, Greece, Israel, Japan, Kuwait, the Netherlands, Saudi Arabia and Taiwan. It has been cleared for sale to Egypt.

Patriot missile systems were deployed by US forces during Operation Iraqi Freedom. The systems were stationed in Kuwait and successfully destroyed a number of hostile surface-to-surface missiles using the new PAC-3 and guidance enhanced missiles.

MISSILE
The Patriot missile is equipped with a track-via-missile (TVM) guidance system. Midcourse correction commands are transmitted to the guidance system from the mobile Engagement Control Centre. The target acquisition system in the missile acquires the target in the terminal phase of flight and transmits the data using the TVM downlink via the ground radar to the Engagement Control Station for final course correction calculations. The course correction commands are transmitted to the missile via the Missile Track Command Uplink. The high explosive 90kg warhead is situated behind the terminal guidance section.

The range of the missile is 70km and maximum altitude is greater than 24km. The minimum flight time is the time to arm the missile, which is less than 9s, and the maximum flight time is less than 3½mins.

PAC-2 GEM+ UPGRADE

Raytheon has developed the Patriot Guidance Enhanced Missile Plus (GEM+), an upgrade to the PAC-2 missile. The upgrade involves a new fuze and the insertion of a new low noise front end which increases the seeker's sensitivity to low radar cross-section targets. The first upgrade forebodies were delivered to the US Army in November 2002. 148 missiles are to be upgraded under the first production contract.

PATRIOT ADVANCED CAPABILITY (PAC-3)
A new Patriot Advanced Capability (PAC-3) missile has increased effectiveness against tactical ballistic and cruise missiles, through the use of advanced hit-to-kill technology. Lockheed Martin is the prime contractor with Raytheon the systems integrator. The PAC-3 has a Ka-band millimetre wave seeker developed by Boeing. The missile guidance system enables target destruction through the kinetic energy released by hitting the target head-on. 16 PAC-3 missiles can be loaded on a launcher, compared to four PAC-2 missiles.

PAC-3 entered low rate initial production in late 1999 and first LRIP production missiles of a total of 92 were delivered in September 2001. A further 100 missiles are to be produced in FY2003 and 108 in FY2004. A decision on full-rate production is expected in 2004. The Netherlands and South Korea have requested sales of PAC-3 missiles and Lockheed Martin and EADS (formerly DaimlerChrysler Aerospace) have established a joint venture company for the production of the system for the German Air Force.

M901 LAUNCHING STATION
The M901 Launching Station transports, points and launches the Patriot missile. Each launcher has four missiles. The launcher is remotely operated via a VHF or fibre optic data link from the Engagement Control Station, which provides both the missile prelaunch data and the fire command signal.

ENGAGEMENT CONTROL STATION
The AN/MSQ-104 Engagement Control Station is the only manned station in a Patriot Fire Unit. The Control Station communicates with the M901 Launching Stations, with other Patriot batteries and the higher command headquarters.

The Control Station is manned by three operators, who have two consoles and a communications station with three radio relay terminals. The digital Weapon Control Computer is located next to the VHF Data Link Terminals.

RADAR
The AN//MPQ-53 phased array radar carries out search, target detection, track and identification, missile tracking and guidance and electronic counter-countermeasures (ECCM) functions. The radar is mounted on a trailer and is automatically controlled by the digital weapons control computer in the Engagement Control Station, via a cable link. The radar system has a range of up to 100km, capacity to track up to 100 targets and can provide missile guidance data for up to nine missiles.

The US Army Patriot radars are being upgraded by Raytheon. The upgrade kits provide greater power for the radar and the addition of a wideband capability for improved target discrimination.

TARGET ENGAGEMENT
A target engagement can be carried out in manual, semi-automatic or automatic mode. When the decision has been made to engage the target, the Engagement Control Station selects the Launch Station or Stations and pre-launch data is transmitted to the selected missile. After launch, the Patriot missile is acquired by the radar. The command uplink and the TVM downlink allow the missile's flight to be monitored and provide missile guidance commands from the weapon control computer. As the missile approaches the target, the TVM guidance system is activated and the missile is steered towards the target. A proximity fuse detonates the high explosive warhead.


2.) We use the Zero as a recon. plane in very rare cases. it is kind of obsolete, but we use it
you happy now?
Effrenata
11-01-2004, 03:40
The Militia of the Devagas Union (member, Confederacy of Effrenata,) seeks to dispose of up to nine of its Frenzy Evader experimental combat aircraft. The aircraft will be sold without weaponry, as the Confederacy has interdicted sales of the Frenzy weapons systems.

Specs for this iteration of the Frenzy include:

Dimensions:
Empty weight: 9,836 kg; max weight 16,548 kg
Wing type: single, midwing; wingspan: 9.64m
Length: 13.17m; height: 3.07m
Dual crew; single crew cockpit plus single crew turret

Structural materials, systems & armament:
Frame: Hollowcore triplecase steel/caradium alloy
Skin: Flexceram “Silent” coating bonded to thermoluminum film (This aircraft is a stealth design, virtually invisible to known conventional wave tracking systems and highly transparent to heat-based targeting systems.)
Engines: Two 102.4Kn Delan 87 sigma; fuel type: hydrogen-enriched liquid toluene
Armament: N/A

Capabilities:
Speed: Mach 2.7; ceiling 24,800m
Range: 7,250km at recommended operational speed of Mach 2.1
Instrumentation cluster includes:
V2.delta particle tracking system,
Amsys GenerationK 44-9-HV reconnaissance probes with Venntar online analysis software
Delan-Tranest infralight microwave communications (v. tau/square 77.1)
Tranest Paes-9 Itaneum-9 320THz flight systems control computer with optional voice interface

The Frenzy Evader’s capital development and prototype production cost was 796m mercat; base production cost was 137m merkat per unit. (1 mercat=.74 USD at exchange close 1/09/04)

These nine aircraft have seen light usage by the Militia of the Devagas Union, the engines have accumulated about 27% of maximum recommended usage (average) and none has sustained structural damage or serious wear.

We understand that crew space is an issue for you. Both cockpit and turret should lend themselves reasonably well to moderate modification, and if the modification results in structural alteration, we will undertake to supply (for cost plus 18% markup,) the requisite finished structural materials and components.

The Devagas Union would like to recoup a reasonable percentage of development and production cost in disposing of these aircraft. All transactions are, of course, subject to review by the Interdepartmental Committee and final approval by the Figurehead Council of the Confederacy.

The Frenzy Evader is an ideal high-speed, lightweight stealth-equipped aircraft, suitable for pursuit, recon, and attack uses. If interested, extend an offer.

Wellan Dasinger
Prime Q&L Coordinator
Militia of the Devagas Union
Missionary Union of Devagas
Confederacy of Effrenata
Khrrck
11-01-2004, 03:48
[OOC: Hooray...finally, someone besides Tomzilla replied!
Tomzilla, that's not a anti-aircraft missile, it's an effing ICBM killer! And unreliable too. No sale.
Alsatia, while your writing is a lot better than most of what I've seen around here; use paragraphs.
Nordea, please include stats or links to stats in your posts.]

Alsatia,
Your LTV A7-D Corsair IIs seem excellent for our purposes.
Refits will not be a problem; we've got plenty of excellent mechanics.
Your base price for 600 of these would be $450 million, correct?

Will you accept, as part or all of your payment:
IDG-1-75 "Shredder" infantry weapons,
and IDG-2-55 "Shredder" aircraft guns?
The weapons come with specifications for replacement magazines, and upkeep instructions.
Descriptions follow.


IDG-1-75 "Shredder"
Type: Infantry Weapon (assault-rifle or similar)
Ammunition: Any 1cm radius metal disc not thicker than 1/8 centimeter.
Firing Rate: 75 per minute.
Spin Rate: 1,500 RPM
Clip Load: Varies depending on thickness of disc: minimum load is 76 for a 10-centimeter clip.
Range: 0.7 kilometers.
Charge Capacity: Enough energy to fire 400 discs to maximum range, or enough to fire 800 discs to 3/4 range.
Power Pack: 2 fast-charge .5kg gel-cell batteries. Charge with 12-volt DC.
Barrel Length: 1/3 meter.
Weight: 32kg with full clip.

Dimensions:Fits within a box 1/2 meter long, 3 centimeters wide, and 12 centimeters tall.

Description: The IDG-1-75 works on the same principle as every IDG disc gun; a simple system of gears, rails and motors flings a metal disc (usually sharpened or serrated) at high speed.

Use: While disc guns are not good for penetrating armor or metal, a single disc is much more damaging than a single bullet. Disc guns also have comparatively long range for a infantry weapon.

IDG-2-55 "Shredder"
Type: Infantry Weapon (assault-rifle or similar)
Ammunition: Any 2cm-radius metal disc not thicker than one-eighth of an centimeter.
Firing Rate: 55 per minute.
Spin Rate: 2,400 RPM
Magazine Load: Varies depending on thickness of disc: minimum load is 250 for a 36-cm magazine.
Range: 1.3 kilometers.
Charge Capacity: Enough energy to fire 2400 discs to maximum range, or enough to fire 4800 discs to 3/4 range.
Power Pack: 8 fast-charge 1kg gel-cell batteries. Charge with 12-volt DC.
Weight: 133kg with full clip.


Dimensions: Same size as the average 20mm aircraft cannon, plus 36 centimeters of magazine.

Description: The IDG-2-55 works on the same principle as every IDG disc gun; a simple system of gears, rails and motors flings a metal disc (usually sharpened or serrated) at high speed.

Use: While disc guns are not good for penetrating armor or metal, a single disc is much more damaging than a single bullet.
The 2-55 model has been adjusted for maximum penetration of unarmored aircraft, and is excellent against Zeppelins or blimps.
Tomzilla
11-01-2004, 03:54
sorry. :( meant to say anti-missle weapon. they were good at shooting down Scud missles heading towards Isreal during the first gulf war. if there is no sale, very well then
Khrrck
11-01-2004, 04:23
[OOC: Sorry about this, Effrenata. I only noticed your post after I posted.
Tomzilla; the Patriot may have been somewhat successful, but overall, mid-air antimissile missiles are not dependable.]

Effrenata,
We are intrested in your aircraft. However:
What are the G statistics for your craft? (max. positive/negative Gs, and structural G limits)
steel/caradium alloy
What is caradium? Is it an alloy?
Engines: Two 102.4Kn Delan 87 sigma; fuel type: hydrogen-enriched liquid toluene
A. What type of engine is the Delan 87? Pulse-det, conventional turbojet, ram/scramjet, hybrid, or other?
B. What is liquid toulene, and is it reasonably easy to manufacture?
C. If liquid toulene is unavailable, can we run it on some other fuel?

V2.delta particle tracking system
What exactly is this? What's the range? Is it active or passive, etc.
Amsys GenerationK 44-9-HV reconnaissance probes with Venntar online analysis software
Again, what is this?
Delan-Tranest infralight microwave communications (v. tau/square 77.1)
This sentence makes no sense. "infralight microwave" is self-contradictory, and "(v. tau/square 77.1) is unintelligible.
[OOC: Cut the pseudoscientific jargon, please.]
Tranest Paes-9 Itaneum-9 320THz flight systems control computer
You are claiming that this computer has a processor speed of 320 terahertz? This does not seem possible.
[OOC: Be reasonable about these things!]
The Frenzy Evader’s capital development and prototype production cost was 796m mercat; base production cost was 137m merkat per unit.
Can you convert merkats to USD, for ease of bargaining?
[OOC: Those development figures seem low for such an advanced aircraft]
Effrenata
11-01-2004, 06:32
Khrrck:

Additional specs for the Frenzy Evader:


Caradium is an artificially produced element with a unique (classified) molecular structure. When amalgamated with specially processed steel at ultrahigh temp/pressure, it creates a lightweight, virtually nondeformable structural element. Structural G limits for the Evader have not yet been established, but they are well above both normal and extreme operational parameters for the aircraft. Only one small kink remains to be worked out: Skin failures can sometimes permit ultralow temperatures to damage molecular integrity. Maintenance on these aircraft is critical!

The 102.4Kn Delan 87 sigma is a PDWE, which is why it requires hydrogen-enriched fuel. Failing the availability of liquid toluene, any of several methane-formula fuels can be used with only minor modifications, which we would be happy to undertake.

The v.2delta particle tracking system operates in both passive and active modes, with a practical range of @390-3900 km, depending on operational parameters. The precise detection model is proprietary, but (roughly) it is based on detection of the byproducts of propulsion in the molecular structure of air.

The Amsys GenerationK 44-9-HV reconnaissance probes are deployable transmission scavengers equipped to scavenge a wide range of satellite datastreams in line-of-sight. Venntar online analysis software is an advanced traffic control/decryption algorithm that makes the data available to the aircrew or for retransmission to a base unit.

“Delta Tranest Infralight” is a designation referring to a series of ultraminiaturized microwave solid processing chip (not “infralight microwave,” sorry.) “v.” is shorthand for “version”, and “tau/square” is the penultimate iteration in the Tau Shapes series of communications systems, superceding the old “tau/oval” series. The Tranest Corporation is fond of fanciful, Greek-letter derived designation protocols. Complain to them; we frequently do (not that it does any good.)

Sorry for dropping the decimal point. S/b 3.20THz on the avionics.

I included a current exchange rate >>(1 mercat=.74 USD at exchange close 1/09/04,)<< but the mercat has only recently been stabilized at new levels and still fluctuates considerably. Offers in USD are perfectly acceptable, we will handle conversions.

Dasinger
Squornshelous
11-01-2004, 06:46
I can offer you some used F-14 Tomcats.
11-01-2004, 06:54
Khrrck I wish I could supply you with 600 of the Corsair II but we only have five available for sale at this time and a total of 125 still in service. Those will be phased out over the next few years in favor of the SU-35 Super Flanker. But if you'd be willing and patient enough to buy our existing stock of A7D's over the next twenty-four months it will speed up our replacement of them. If you are willing to enter into this contract the price per unit will drop to A353,000A(450,000 USD) and we will be happy to include free delivery of them to a base of your choice.
Sincerely yours,
Josiah Yoder-Peres
Minister of Martial Surplus
11-01-2004, 09:30
We will sell you 10 of our "Humbug" Nuclear Test Weapons. 16 where built on the original production line, but only 6 where used in testing, as the Red Wind testing equipment arrived sooner than anticapated. however, we are currently starting up a Second production line of 90 to be used on the [SECRET].

all of the missiles, warhead and all, will cost 1 billion USD.
11-01-2004, 12:29
So our offer was rejected/ignored? :(
Roycelandia
11-01-2004, 13:18
Imperial Aerospace can offer you several aircraft that would be perfect for your requirements...

IAe Spitfire Turboprop Fighter

Upgraded version of the famous WWII fighter, the IAe Spitfire features Flight Commander IV On-Board computer, ArmourShield fuselage, EvaTech Industries NOS engine (Top speed 650km/h fully loaded), ejection seat, four 20mm cannons, eight .50 calibre MGs, eight rockets or missiles, exhaust coolant, and ECM systems.

A very versatile fighter, they have scored numerous victories over many, many types of modern Jet Fighters...
A steal at $1,000,000 each (we make rather a lot of them...)

http://www.raf.mod.uk/bob1940/gallery/19sqnspit640.jpg


IAe C-47 Transport Aircraft

Boasting the same basic on board systems as the IAe Spitfire, as well as the ECM system, exhaust coolant, ArmourShield Fuselage and twin EvaTech NOS Engines (top speed 432km/h fully loaded), the C-47 can be easily equipped with Imperial Armaments 20mm Gatling Guns to create the AC-47 "Puff The Magic Dragon" gunship.

Carries 48 passengers, 150 metric tonnes of cargo, or two Gatling Guns and a LOT of ammo...

Available now for the low, low price of $1.5m (C-47) or $1.7m (AC-47)

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/8758/ac47-5.jpg

IAe Sunderland Flying Boat

IAe's updated version of the famous WWII Long-Range Reconnaisance/Anti Shipping & Submarine/ AirSea Rescue aircraft.

Same features as the C-47, as well as: Ten 20mm Cannon, Ten .303 MG (.50 cal option also available), Depth Charges, and Amphibious Configuration (extra charge).

Currently on sale for $2m each, or $2.2m in Amphibious Configuration...

http://www.creationtrek.com/AVIATION/images/sunderland/DUXFORD/service/to.jpg
Khrrck
11-01-2004, 22:00
Squornshelous: What condition are the F-14s in? Have there been any refits?

Alsatia: Sounds good. Do you want any IDG Shredders as part of the payment?

Esryia: We don't need nuclear weapons. We've got sufficent warheads to take our Orion-type HLV-FD to orbit, and that's plenty.

Nordea: Sorry, but you did not specify statistics for the aircraft, and we can't use any tank not designed for us.

Roycelandia: Looks good. Will you accept IDG Shredders as part of the payment for 150 IAe Spitfire Turboprops and 12 IAe C-47s?

Effrenata: Structural limits are above max G limits? Good; we won't have a repeat of the Demon fiasco.*
Structural modifications should not be necessary. We'll modify the cockpit seating and, if you'll give control protocols for the computer, slave-rig the turret.

Khrrck Minister of Purchases, Kz'jak'ar

*[OOC: The Kinsong Aerospace Demon had a max G pull of (+16/-11). Unfortunately, the structure could only take +15 Gs...]
Effrenata
11-01-2004, 23:17
Kz'jak'ar says: >>Structural limits are above max G limits? Good; we won't have a repeat of the Demon fiasco.*
Structural modifications should not be necessary. We'll modify the cockpit seating and, if you'll give control protocols for the computer, slave-rig the turret.<<

Control protocols for the avionics, and training sim packages will be included with the sale package, if you so wish. When we receive your proposal we will begin the transaction authorization process.

Wellan Dasinger
Prime Q&L Coordinator
Militia of the Devagas Union
Missionary Union of Devagas
Confederacy of Effrenata
Roycelandia
12-01-2004, 06:50
IDG Shredders will be fine as part-payment. Imperial Aerospace have despatched the aircraft to your nation, and they should arrive within 48 hours.

We trust they will be useful to you...
Khrrck
12-01-2004, 07:06
[OOC: Eh? We haven't confirmed the sale yet, Roycelandia...]

Roycelandia: Please specify the number of IDG Shredders and amount of USD. Then, we'll wire the money and arrange shipping for the Shredders.

Effrenata: Proposal: $200,000,000 USD each, for a pair of Frenzies. Plus control protocols, weapon-mount specifications (so we can modify weaponry to fit it) & instructions for making the required fuels.

Can they be flown to us? If you can't, we'll have to hire human pilots or make seating modifications on-site.
Effrenata
12-01-2004, 08:13
Your price proposal is acceptable. The transaction approval process will be started immediately. Due to the advanced nature of the items there may be some reassurances to make to nervous bureacrats. We don't anticipate any problems.

With regards to delivery, we can offer you two options:

1) I'll put you in touch with a private contractor who can provide you with pilots, and you can work out the price and conditions with them; or

2) We can accommodate you on-site at the Kertebren Airbase. This would make a fullscale training simulator available to your personnel while the modifications are proceding, and should you require any replacement structural parts or materials, they would be at hand.

Dasinger
Roycelandia
13-01-2004, 10:43
The Imperial Defence Bureau has authorised us to take a 50/50 split between IDG Shredders and USD. So, if you would be so kind as to transfer us $112.2million dollars, plus the equivalent amount in IDG shredders, then we would have a deal...
Khrrck
14-01-2004, 07:06
Roycelandia: Money wired.

140,000 IDG-1-75s have been loaded on a freighter, and they're on their way. Expect arrival in about 4 weeks. Instruction manuals, ammo specs, and repair guides are available at "www.KinsongTech.cr3". Access passwords for KinsongTech.cr3 will be sent via encrypted telegram.

Effrenata: Option two sounds good, though I'm afraid we won't fit in the simulator cockpit, either. We could try rigging a direct sense-and-control linkage to the sim computer...

[OOC: Want to RP it out, or do you just want me to say "OK, we did the modifications and flew the things home, transaction over"?]

Anyone else who wishes to sell things:
We've got all the fighters we need.
We've could do with a few more transports.
We've found that we must design our own tanks.
We've stated that we do not need nuclear weapons.


Khrrck Minister of Purchases
Kz'jak'ar
Effrenata
15-01-2004, 01:29
[OOC: Want to RP it out, or do you just want me to say "OK, we did the modifications and flew the things home, transaction over"?]

::OOC: I'm game if you are... telegram me to establish rough parameters for startup.::


Khrrck Minister of Purchases
Kz'jak'ar[/quote]
Khrrck
15-01-2004, 23:07
[OOC: Telegram should arrive shortly... BUMP]
Khrrck
09-03-2004, 21:54
Bump.
Cyberutopia
09-03-2004, 22:19
We'll sell you some old heavy repeater slug guns and infantry class railguns. Normally they're mounted on power armor, but if weight is no problem, you should do fine with them. 2,500 assorted repeaters and railguns can be ready for shipping within the month.
Cyberutopia
09-03-2004, 22:19
We'll sell you some old heavy repeater slug guns and infantry class railguns. Normally they're mounted on power armor, but if weight is no problem, you should do fine with them. 2,500 assorted repeaters and railguns can be ready for shipping within the month.
Khrrck
09-03-2004, 22:38
Read the first post in this topic.
Cyberutopia
09-03-2004, 22:48
((Read everything but the first line. :oops: ))