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Anarchists UNITE

27-12-2003, 22:35
Anarchist of the world help fellow Anarchists take out the dreadful nation M-Pire get wiped of the face of the earth and the moon. You will be rewarded for your help in supply of weapons.
27-12-2003, 22:44
bump
Letila
27-12-2003, 23:40
We'll keep your offer in mind.

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Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.-The state only exists to serve itself.
"Oppose excessive military spending, yet believe in excessive spending on junk food and plastic surgery to make all your women look like LARDASSES!"-Sino, when I criticized excessive military spending.
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic of attractive women.
28-12-2003, 02:22
Anarchy, being *um* Chaos will dissentegrate from within. Totalitarianism and democracy are two of the most stable governments, democracy being the kindest, but you are an anarchist so you would not care.


General Zircon, Desra
Desra is a centrist democracy which cherishes human/lockean rights
HARU
28-12-2003, 02:23
Uh...yeah, you kinda have an oxymoron (Anarchists Unite) going on there. :roll:
Letila
28-12-2003, 02:33
Anarchy, being *um* Chaos will dissentegrate from within. Totalitarianism and democracy are two of the most stable governments, democracy being the kindest, but you are an anarchist so you would not care.

Check out this thread first: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=71742

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Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.-The state only exists to serve itself.
"Oppose excessive military spending, yet believe in excessive spending on junk food and plastic surgery to make all your women look like LARDASSES!"-Sino, when I criticized excessive military spending.
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic of attractive women.
28-12-2003, 03:24
I question your anarchist rule. If anarchism is no rule, how do you claim yourself to be the leader?
FLips Iron Fist
28-12-2003, 03:37
Anarchy, being *um* Chaos will dissentegrate from within. Totalitarianism and democracy are two of the most stable governments, democracy being the kindest, but you are an anarchist so you would not care.


General Zircon, Desra
Desra is a centrist democracy which cherishes human/lockean rights

actually, there's a difference, it might say that in the link Letila sent you, but it's 2:30am, and I cant be bothered to check 44 pages just to see if it does mention it.

Anywho.

Chaos is a state of constant change and flux (actually, chaos is something entirely different, but no-one seems to remember that anymore, so we can look past that fact), while Anarchy has more of a self-imposed stability - The freedom to do whatever you want, as long as it doesn't impose on the freedom of others (which is technicly imposible to do,but that's beside the point).

(Chaos is actually very roughly the idea that many, many tiny variables can have a major effect on the whole - fractals, butterfly effect, but that's not the kind of chaos we're talking about).

Chaos - No Laws, no idea of The Fellow Man
Anarchy - No Laws, aceptance that everyone has an equal right to live
FLips Iron Fist
28-12-2003, 03:37
Anarchy, being *um* Chaos will dissentegrate from within. Totalitarianism and democracy are two of the most stable governments, democracy being the kindest, but you are an anarchist so you would not care.


General Zircon, Desra
Desra is a centrist democracy which cherishes human/lockean rights

actually, there's a difference, it might say that in the link Letila sent you, but it's 2:30am, and I cant be bothered to check 44 pages just to see if it does mention it.

Anywho.

Chaos is a state of constant change and flux (actually, chaos is something entirely different, but no-one seems to remember that anymore, so we can look past that fact), while Anarchy has more of a self-imposed stability - The freedom to do whatever you want, as long as it doesn't impose on the freedom of others (which is technicly imposible to do,but that's beside the point).

(Chaos is actually very roughly the idea that many, many tiny variables can have a major effect on the whole - fractals, butterfly effect, but that's not the kind of chaos we're talking about).

Chaos - No Laws, no idea of The Fellow Man
Anarchy - No Laws, aceptance that everyone has an equal right to live
Letila
28-12-2003, 03:46
The link is a good place to look. Don't bash anarchism until you understand it.

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Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.-The state only exists to serve itself.
"Oppose excessive military spending, yet believe in excessive spending on junk food and plastic surgery to make all your women look like LARDASSES!"-Sino, when I criticized excessive military spending.
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic of attractive women.
28-12-2003, 03:49
Anarchy, being *um* Chaos will dissentegrate from within. Totalitarianism and democracy are two of the most stable governments, democracy being the kindest, but you are an anarchist so you would not care.


General Zircon, Desra
Desra is a centrist democracy which cherishes human/lockean rights

actually, there's a difference, it might say that in the link Letila sent you, but it's 2:30am, and I cant be bothered to check 44 pages just to see if it does mention it.

Anywho.

Chaos is a state of constant change and flux (actually, chaos is something entirely different, but no-one seems to remember that anymore, so we can look past that fact), while Anarchy has more of a self-imposed stability - The freedom to do whatever you want, as long as it doesn't impose on the freedom of others (which is technicly imposible to do,but that's beside the point).

(Chaos is actually very roughly the idea that many, many tiny variables can have a major effect on the whole - fractals, butterfly effect, but that's not the kind of chaos we're talking about).

Chaos - No Laws, no idea of The Fellow Man
Anarchy - No Laws, aceptance that everyone has an equal right to live

Actually according to the dictionary:
Anarchy - Absence of any form of political authority.
Political disorder and confusion.
Absence of any cohesive principle, such as a common standard or purpose

anarchism - The theory or doctrine that all forms of government are oppressive and undesirable and should be abolished.
Active resistance and terrorism against the state, as used by some anarchists.
Rejection of all forms of coercive control and authority: “He was inclined to anarchism; he hated system and organization and uniformity” (Bertrand Russell).

My point is terrorist tactics impose on the rights of others but it is still consider anarchy. Anarchy a system that is impossible to achieve. If you have enough power to implement this then corruption will take over and you will make the rules. Then the system is dictatorship.
Carlemnaria
29-12-2003, 11:07
carlemnaria only engauges in militarylike actions
under two specific, narrowly defined, and independently confirmed
circumstances:

to prevent an eminent, bonified threat of genocide
or to insure that humanitarian aid reaches those genuinely in need of
it rather then become a pawn in someone's power game

and then we do so in the most nonlethaly effective means at our
disposal. (which incidently almost never appear overtly military)

by all means:

anarchists unite
ban censorship
humility rules

but NOT in the taking of harmful action!

it is better to do nothing
if doing nothing is what it takes
avoid and prevent the causing of harm
the to do all the good in the world
if it can only be done by causing
more harm then good in the proccess

(that may seem obvious, but how often do we truely see it practiced?)

=^^=
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Neutered Sputniks
29-12-2003, 12:56
You guys who believe anarchy is anything other than every man for himself are severly deluded and I'd suggest perhaps unable to face reality. Perhaps rather than promote this false anarchy, you should do some actual research, define these terms you like to throw around, and figure out exactly what kind of government/society you're really looking for.
29-12-2003, 16:05
Kardonia would help you out. However, we need to discuss terms of payment...help from us won't come cheap...
Carlemnaria
29-12-2003, 17:20
You guys who believe anarchy is anything other than every man for himself are severly deluded and I'd suggest perhaps unable to face reality. Perhaps rather than promote this false anarchy, you should do some actual research, define these terms you like to throw around, and figure out exactly what kind of government/society you're really looking for.

believe it or not
there IS a whole regeon of those of us who have
though i claim only to speak for myself.

an = abscence of
archy = anyone attempting to dictate the actions, perceptions or beliefs of anyone else

as soon as you have so much as one person coersing or intimidating
anyone else, this is a form of hierarchy and therefore NOT 'AN'archy!!!

granted i don't have all the details of how to acheve this
and could care less about popular economic assumptions that seem to
enjoy such widespread emotional attatchment.
but it doesn't take a rocket scientest to observe that economic
fanatacism of ANY flavor is no less harmful and destructive then
any other form of fanatacism, none of which are in any sense harmless
by any streatch of it

=^^=
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Letila
30-12-2003, 00:03
You guys who believe anarchy is anything other than every man for himself are severly deluded and I'd suggest perhaps unable to face reality. Perhaps rather than promote this false anarchy, you should do some actual research, define these terms you like to throw around, and figure out exactly what kind of government/society you're really looking for.

What should we call our authorityless ideology, then?

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Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.-The state only exists to serve itself.
"Oppose excessive military spending, yet believe in excessive spending on junk food and plastic surgery to make all your women look like LARDASSES!"-Sino, when I criticized excessive military spending.
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic of attractive women.
30-12-2003, 20:56
Simply, there is no rule in an anarchist society. The structure is, there is no structure. People do what they want, when they want, for how every long they want to do it. If an anarchist society were invaded, there would be no military to defend it. All it would be is terrorist attacks by groups. Spontaneous.
Letila
30-12-2003, 21:24
People aren't just going to let invaders in. :roll:

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Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.-The state only exists to serve itself.
"Oppose excessive military spending, yet believe in excessive spending on junk food and plastic surgery to make all your women look like LARDASSES!"-Sino, when I criticized excessive military spending.
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic of attractive women.
Abu-Dhabi Khristatata
30-12-2003, 21:38
If you united, then you would be a union, not a group of anarchists.
Drizzts Army
30-12-2003, 21:41
We will help,but we will only send the 3rd Heavy Armoured and 7th Infantry Divsion to help.
04-01-2004, 03:09
Anarchy, being *um* Chaos will dissentegrate from within. Totalitarianism and democracy are two of the most stable governments, democracy being the kindest, but you are an anarchist so you would not care.


General Zircon, Desra
Desra is a centrist democracy which cherishes human/lockean rights

geez your a priss y r u so proper. god
04-01-2004, 03:12
Anarchy, being *um* Chaos will dissentegrate from within. Totalitarianism and democracy are two of the most stable governments, democracy being the kindest, but you are an anarchist so you would not care.


General Zircon, Desra
Desra is a centrist democracy which cherishes human/lockean rights

actually, there's a difference, it might say that in the link Letila sent you, but it's 2:30am, and I cant be bothered to check 44 pages just to see if it does mention it.

Anywho.

Chaos is a state of constant change and flux (actually, chaos is something entirely different, but no-one seems to remember that anymore, so we can look past that fact), while Anarchy has more of a self-imposed stability - The freedom to do whatever you want, as long as it doesn't impose on the freedom of others (which is technicly imposible to do,but that's beside the point).

(Chaos is actually very roughly the idea that many, many tiny variables can have a major effect on the whole - fractals, butterfly effect, but that's not the kind of chaos we're talking about).

Chaos - No Laws, no idea of The Fellow Man
Anarchy - No Laws, aceptance that everyone has an equal right to live

thank you finally some one who understands what im saying i'd like you to join my region.
04-01-2004, 03:43
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