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Omz222 Allows Alternative to Compulsary Military Service

Omz222
23-12-2003, 07:54
Osaria -- Omzian State Broadcasting Services (OSBS/OSNN) Corporation

Today, the Omzian Parliament with the Federal Administrative Council and Military Council has successfully passed an addition to the current Compulsary Military Services Act (SSN-221 1992). Under the new law, all Omzian citizens aged 18 to 25 who have not participated in Compulsary Military Service in the Omzia Homeland Defence Forces faces a new "punishment" for refuse to be trained and serve in the OHDF in a 2 1/2 years period: 4290 hours of "community services" in a 2 1/2 year period. The Parliament introduced and implemented the bill after a series of protests from Omzian citizens urging the government to lax the regulations on Compulsary Military Service. A family, in which a 19 years old is fined with $1200 Omzars for refusing to participate in the Compulsary Military Services, even tried to sue the Federal Government for $8 million dollars, but the lawsuit is dismissed by the High Court Administration. Omzians, both young and old, have different reflections on the matter.

"Why are they still keeping this obsolete concept of compulsary military service for the military anyways?", asked by the 37-years old Osaria citizen Jan Gron. "This is a liberal country anyways. We have the option to refuse to serve in the military or in community service, it is our choice. The government needs to interfere less with what we think, anyways. This is just an attempt to fend off the people that are opposed to this anyways."

56 years old Dr. Vaugas Janue however, had another view about this. "I'm telling you, at least the government offered flexibility in this issue. Teenagers and young people just cause too much trouble these days if they aren't taught with something valuable. Either go to a military camp or volunteer somewhere, or they'll go to the Rehabiliation Center."
Sino
23-12-2003, 08:01
This is not looking good. If citizens choose to refuse compulsory military service, they should be alternatively be allowed periodical compulsory military training.

In Sino, 'compulsory' military service lasts for six months at the age of 18. No gender is excused. However, if the citizen eligeable is qualified for university, he/she would be pardoned (Sino does not believe in disrupting the education for the smart). We also have compulsory military training as part of our education curriculum. When the six months are up, the recruit has rights to either continue or discharge. Such compulsory military training is suitable for 'enlisted' service. Officer training will not be open to those who are not educationally fit.
Soviet Haaregrad
23-12-2003, 08:13
We replaced compulsorary military service with compulsorary training in cadets for 6 months. Fewer people seem to complain and it has actually boosted the number of people applying for our all professional/volunteer armed forces. Give them a taste of the best of service and they will want to come back.
Sino
23-12-2003, 08:15
We replaced compulsorary military service with compulsorary training in cadets for 6 months. Fewer people seem to complain and it has actually boosted the number of people applying for our all professional/volunteer armed forces. Give them a taste of the best of service and they will want to come back.

OOC: You might as well give those turds with arms and legs that you call people, some training in sodomizing each other, you goddamn liberal anarchist prick!
_Taiwan
23-12-2003, 08:19
Sino, remember what I said about OOC remarks? Put speech marks on them and say it is the General's opinion.
Omz222
23-12-2003, 08:19
We replaced compulsorary military service with compulsorary training in cadets for 6 months. Fewer people seem to complain and it has actually boosted the number of people applying for our all professional/volunteer armed forces. Give them a taste of the best of service and they will want to come back.

This is not looking good. If citizens choose to refuse compulsory military service, they should be alternatively be allowed periodical compulsory military training.

In Sino, 'compulsory' military service lasts for six months at the age of 18. No gender is excused. However, if the citizen eligeable is qualified for university, he/she would be pardoned (Sino does not believe in disrupting the education for the smart). We also have compulsory military training as part of our education curriculum. When the six months are up, the recruit has rights to either continue or discharge. Such compulsory military training is suitable for 'enlisted' service. Officer training will not be open to those who are not educationally fit.

As the title can confuse a lot of people, the Omzian Compulsary Military Service Program does not really put the participant in actual military service. Instead, they receive regular training, and they are put into Militia units and will be fighting when comes a time of an invasion of Omz222.

The participant, once informed that he will be participating in the program, could choose what he wants to involve in: Air Force, Navy, or Army -- with Air Force and Army being very popular ones. The participant will be in cadet training status until his part time compulsary military service program reaches 2 years. When that is done, he will be able to take some of the regular trainings. After the program is finished however, he may choose to exit the program, stay in militia units/directed to reserve units (decision for which depends on situation), or participate in active service -- which will change his participation from part time to full time.

However, as our Soviet Haaregrad friends has pointed out, this program does attract more people to the military, and forming a high competition between applicants. Somehow, it also reduces crime rates.
Bonstock
23-12-2003, 08:25
In Bonstock, we have compulsory military training, similar to that of Sweden, only women are not exempt. The population is able to go to war relativly quickly.

And we never have exceptions to the year of service. All men and women MUST serve. Or pay the price (loss of citizenship, heavy fines, jail time).
_Taiwan
23-12-2003, 08:27
We are also experiencing a similar shift in public opinion towards the armed forces. During the days surrounding Chen's declaration of Independence, each person had to enter service for 3 years. Nowadays after a series of protests, the service time has been reduced to 1 year.
Sino
23-12-2003, 08:27
We replaced compulsorary military service with compulsorary training in cadets for 6 months. Fewer people seem to complain and it has actually boosted the number of people applying for our all professional/volunteer armed forces. Give them a taste of the best of service and they will want to come back.

This is not looking good. If citizens choose to refuse compulsory military service, they should be alternatively be allowed periodical compulsory military training.

In Sino, 'compulsory' military service lasts for six months at the age of 18. No gender is excused. However, if the citizen eligeable is qualified for university, he/she would be pardoned (Sino does not believe in disrupting the education for the smart). We also have compulsory military training as part of our education curriculum. When the six months are up, the recruit has rights to either continue or discharge. Such compulsory military training is suitable for 'enlisted' service. Officer training will not be open to those who are not educationally fit.

As the title can confuse a lot of people, the Omzian Compulsary Military Service Program does not really put the participant in actual military service. Instead, they receive regular training, and they are put into Militia units and will be fighting when comes a time of an invasion of Omz222.

The participant, once informed that he will be participating in the program, could choose what he wants to involve in: Air Force, Navy, or Army -- with Air Force and Army being very popular ones. The participant will be in cadet training status until his part time compulsary military service program reaches 2 years. When that is done, he will be able to take some of the regular trainings. After the program is finished however, he may choose to exit the program, stay in militia units/directed to reserve units (decision for which depends on situation), or participate in active service -- which will change his participation from part time to full time.

However, as our Soviet Haaregrad friends has pointed out, this program does attract more people to the military, and forming a high competition between applicants. Somehow, it also reduces crime rates.

Our Marines, Army, Air Force and Navy all run 'Youth Corps' programs for adolescents. This program is similar to the 'Cadets' in Commonwealth countries.
_Taiwan
23-12-2003, 08:37
We are also experiencing a similar shift in public opinion towards the armed forces. During the days surrounding Chen's declaration of Independence, each person had to enter service for 3 years. Nowadays after a series of protests, the service time has been reduced to 1 year.
Soviet Haaregrad
23-12-2003, 08:39
OOC: You might as well give those turds with arms and legs that you call people, some training in sodomizing each other, you goddamn liberal anarchist prick!

Think about it, we have a very high rate of drug useage, this would sound bad except for... ever seen on TV when police confront someone on meth, angeldust or coke and they keep fighting with 6 rounds in them and a dog gnawing their leg?

And why would we train them in sodomizing each other? They can learn that from porno. PS: Care to import some "mature films"?

PPS: Liberals can be tough too, just go to a Dead Kennedys or Aus Rotten show.
Sino
23-12-2003, 08:52
OOC: You might as well give those turds with arms and legs that you call people, some training in sodomizing each other, you goddamn liberal anarchist prick!

Think about it, we have a very high rate of drug useage, this would sound bad except for... ever seen on TV when police confront someone on meth, angeldust or coke and they keep fighting with 6 rounds in them and a dog gnawing their leg?

And why would we train them in sodomizing each other? They can learn that from porno. PS: Care to import some "mature films"?

PPS: Liberals can be tough too, just go to a Dead Kennedys or Aus Rotten show.

OOC: Your ideals are F.U.B.A.R.
Soviet Haaregrad
23-12-2003, 09:03
OOC: Your ideals are F.U.B.A.R.

How so?
Soviet Haaregrad
24-12-2003, 07:50
bump
Omz222
24-12-2003, 08:09
OOC: Thanks for the bump. Another post coming real soon, just too lazy :P
Omz222
24-12-2003, 20:27
OSBS News -- Opinions of the People
Issue on Compulsary Military Services

Today we have picked 6 individuals -- aged from 15 to 49 -- in Osaria's Klana Cafe near the Osaria Square and the Omzian People's Revolution Museum. 5 of them already served in the Compulsary Military Service and have university or college degrees, and one is in High School. Regarding the new change in the Compulsary Military Services Act, the crowd has quite a few different opinions.

The oldest -- a 32 years old named "Jone" working in a company -- has informed us that he trained in the Army under the program from when he was 19 to 22. "I think this is a good opportunity for young people to get some even more experience outside, aside from going to parties and bars all night long. Having done community services myself when I was young, it certainly gives you an experience. A well-made alternative to the compulsary military service program -- which can also be very interesting. The best part of it is -- it goes into your resume. A wise choice by the government, indeed."

Another one -- a 29 years old named "Tom" working in the service industry -- trained in the Army too, from when he was 21 to 22 years old. "At least, the government's offering more freedom on this subject. Personally, I don't really see Compulsary Military Service is needed much anyways. Now there's a bit of selection going on."

The third one, a 49 years old named "Lano" working in the IT industry, was trained in the Air Force when he was 23 years old. "Frankly, this is just a decoy telling the people to stop ranting about the Compulsary Military Service. The government should just listen to the people, and abandon this expensive military service program altogether. When are we going to be invaded to a stage when we all have to fight anyways? I'd say unlikely. Otherwise, community services being low-cost for the government, is a good choice although I still don't think young people should be forced to work. That's essentially 'modernized slavery', in my opinion. Well, not really slavery, but indeed it pushes to the limit of people's freedom, if you know what I mean."

The fourth one, a 15 years old named "Onme" whose brother is serving in the Army under this program, has an opinion about this too. "My brother told me that the program is quite fun and also educational. I think it should be ok, at least he said that a lot of people there really liked the program. About the community services however, personally I don't really know about that, but I don't think everyone who refuses to be trained under this program should be forced to work. But at least the government's kind enough to offer some choice."

The fifth one, a 24 years old named "Will" who just finished the program a few years ago in the Army, had his own experience. "Well, personally I'd say many people were scared to participate in the program for various reasons at first, which is causing this growing refusals to participate in this. But it is indeed, like Onme said, very interesting. For those who doesn't want to go however, personally I'd think community services is ok, but an average of 6 hours of services per day is just too much."

The last one, a 46 years old who refuses to give his name and occupation, has been trained in the Army when he just graduated from High School, has an unusual view. "Both choice, at least, teaches young people to experience some pain. From my experience, the program was indeed stressful, but at least I wasn't pulled by the police. Those protestors against this? A load of junk."

So you can see, various people have different opinions about the change, although many have negative responses on the community services rule. But as the law continues to be enforced, everyone gotta do what they have to do.

Tamara Ganson