A mammoth union (GDODAD/Arda/Reich) <Closed and SECRET!!! [Archive]

Automagfreek

23-12-2003, 01:46

Rayne rushed to the communications center. Several hours ago, transmissions were sent out, and from the sounds of it replies had been recieved. Rayne read the initial responses and grinned ear to ear as she ordered invitations be sent out to both parties. She turned to her servants and demanded that Damien's Great Hall be readied for this historic event. Along with the invitations, Rayne sent another message:

Oh great leaders of Iesus Christi and Melkor Unchained, thank you for your prompt replies. It is well know that the GDODAD and Arda are friends, and Arda and The Reich are friends. Well, the GDODAD sees no reason why we can't be friends with our brethren in The Reich. Seeing as both of you have expressed interest in this offer that the GDODAD has presented, we wish for you to meet in Automagfreek along with GDODAD leaders to finalize and make official a pact between GDODAD, Arda, and The Reich. We look forward to seeing you, and preperations for your arrival are already underway.

Thank you,

http://www.angelfire.com/super2/freekisland/rayne2.jpg
Rayne Xolantra
Potentate Striker of Automagfreek
G.D.O.D.A.D

OOC: Iesus, Melkor, and other GDODAD/Reich/Arda leaders can RP their responses/arrivals now.

Automagfreek

23-12-2003, 02:26

Bump

23-12-2003, 02:30

OOC: *points at the other thread (forgets the name)* Shadow offered Hartman assistance...

The Eastern Bloc

23-12-2003, 02:31

*tagness*

Seraphim Order Embassy

23-12-2003, 02:34

Automagfreek

23-12-2003, 02:35

We wish every measure of success for this new union.

OOC: Erm....ICly, nobody knows of this except Reich, Arda, and GDODAD nations.

Seraphim Order Embassy

23-12-2003, 02:38

OOC: Erm....ICly, nobody knows of this except Reich, Arda, and GDODAD nations.

OOC: Oh hell. Sorry Auto. Thought it was a public broadcast but I read it too quickly. Anyhow, I'll go edit. :oops:

Presgreif

23-12-2003, 02:49

Natalya read the communique as it churned out of the fax machine in her day office. As she read, her eyes slowly widened, and evetually, her mouth opened in a revieling sign of disbelief. The waves of joy and excitment which washed over her pressed her into her chair. She sat silent for several minutes. Finally, she whispered to herself, "Dear God, it is true. Dear God...". She stood up, and opened the curtains which normaly concealed her panorama view of the sea. And then she knelt down, and she prayed, thanking God, and asking for the fortitude to carry out her duties to her nation and her allies well. "Our Father, who art in Heaven, hallowed be Thy Name..."

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Natalya de Greif,
High Mistress of Presgreif
Directoress of The Concert of High Lords
Proud and Loyal member of G.D.O.D.A.D.

Automagfreek

23-12-2003, 04:27

Bump

23-12-2003, 04:31

Pothole

Thelas

23-12-2003, 04:34

OOC: Umm, AMF, who is the leader of the GDODAD? THis time? Is it still TST?

Automagfreek

23-12-2003, 04:39

Sketch

23-12-2003, 04:39

taggy taggy

Thelas

23-12-2003, 04:42

OOC: Umm, AMF, who is the leader of the GDODAD? THis time? Is it still TST?

OOC: Yes, TST is still the leader. We've been discussing this on the GDODAD boards for awhile, and I set it up.

Is there a problem?

OOC: Just my standard stuff, you know, taking a page out of Knootoss' book, well, with out getting invaded.

Presgreif

23-12-2003, 06:08

bump

Melkor Unchained

23-12-2003, 06:37

The communique travelled rapidly up the ranks of Lord Melkor's Imperium, where it sat at last at Alkanphel's desk. He peered over the sheet outlining the GDODAD's request. He tapped a pen tentatively against his chin, his eyes wandering around the room. Clearly, the GDODAD and the Reich would gain the most from this pact, at a slight expense to Arda. Arda was clearly the strongest of the three, Alkanphel reasoned, so why should we not hold authority over the triumvirate?

He stood and paced the room, weighing his options. He carefully drew a sword off the wall, drawing it out of its sheath slowly. His eyes flickered over the immaculate blade as he weighed his options. The Reich, though it had long been a worthy and valiant ally, seemed to be waning. GDODAD, in its newest incarnation, had not as yet sufficiently proved itself level-headed enough to cater to Arda's interests.

He levelled the blade in front of him, and began twiriling it idly as he continued his reverie. He would have to speak to Morgoth about this, indeed. He was more than sure that the two of them would be on the same page, as they invariably were.

Arda would have to write the treaty. Only then, could its implications be beneficial.

He strode back to his desk, propping the sword up against the side. He pressed a button to return the transmission, and folded his hands neatly before him as the projector came up. He reviewed the initial transmission again, and composed a response:

Tightbeam transmission
Origin: Angband
Destination: Automagfreek and the Reich

"Greetings, friends. This treaty agreement has the attention of many in the Imperium. It seems like a fantastic idea, but I'm sure we've all got our own ideas about how it should be written, what the agreement should entail, and so forth. It is with this in mind that I feel compelled to request a meeting of affected leaders to discuss the matter. Since we're all mutual friends of the Imperium, I'm nore than positive the delegation would be receptive to a meeting in Ali'Staan.

We eagerly anticipate a response."

Lord Alkanphel
High Warlord of Lord Melkor's Imperium, First Counselor to Melkor Himself
http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/alkanphel1.jpg

Presgreif

23-12-2003, 06:41

:twisted: .....oh, excuse me,....

Automagfreek

23-12-2003, 06:51

Automagfreek

23-12-2003, 06:55

Phyrric

23-12-2003, 06:57

tag this one

Melkor Unchained

23-12-2003, 07:00

Rayne read the response and said to herself. So now they want to hold this meeting elsewhere? She sighed, and ordered preperations of the Great Hall to cease for the moment. She then sent another reply.

If you wish to hold discussions elsewhere, that is fine with us I guess. I agree that we should all have equal say in this treaty, for anything less would not be worth our time.

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Rayne Xolantra
Potentate Striker of Automagfreek
G.D.O.D.A.D

Alkanphel nodded. An expected reaction. Surely, the GDODAD would feel especially put out; but such as it was, tensions made it rather difficult for Imperial envoys to leave the country. Alkanphel again sent a transmission:

Return Transmission to AMF:

"We must apologize for our insistence on holding the talks here; tensions being as they are, Lord Melkor does not often permit even his closest emissaries to leave the country during times of strife. We feel that Arda may be the only location secure enough to prevent terrorists from attacking the delegation. Few in the world possess the strength of will required to assail Arda. Generally, we prefer to resolve such things within our own borders: its nothing personal, but surely you must understand our situation."

Lord Alkanphel
High Warlord of Lord Melkor's Imperium, First Counselor to Melkor Himself
http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/alkanphel1.jpg

Automagfreek

23-12-2003, 07:04

Hmmmm......They seem worried about something....oh well, I'm not afraid to travel. Rayne thought to herself. She ordered Damien's SR-71A2 readied for the short fly to the Imperium. She was more concerned about the reply of Matthew Iesus at the moment, because she had not heard from him yet. Rayne sent out another message:

Alright, I shall arrive in a few hours. Once Matthew Iesus contacts me/us, we will begin talks. I'm not sure if other GDODAD leaders will attend, but more than likely nations such as The Silver Turtle, Lord Christopher Scott, Barbarosea, and a few others would be very interested in being present.

I am leaving now.

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Rayne Xolantra
Potentate Striker of Automagfreek
G.D.O.D.A.D

Presgreif

23-12-2003, 07:06

Communique to Damien Dreadfire, High Lord of Automagfreek

My Lord,
it has been communicated to me that negotiations between ourselves, Arda, and The Reich will soon begin. Though I am only a junior member of our revered alliance, I would ask to be present at these negotations. Since I became a member of GDODAD, I have done all I can to be an active and benefitial element within the organization. I would like to further deepen my participation within our alliance by taking part in these negotiations, if not as an active voice, then at least as spectator and council to your Lordship. It would mean a great deal to me to participate in this meeting, and your allowance of my request would only strengthen my loyalty and further my efforts for The Dominion. I prey you consider my request, and await your reply in Konigsberg.

Written in The Spirit of Imperial Servitude, at Konigsberg,

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Natalya de Greif,
High Mistress of Presgreif
Directoress of The Concert of High Lords
Proud and Loyal member of G.D.O.D.A.D.

Automagfreek

23-12-2003, 07:14

I for one would welcome you at these discussions. What do you say Lord Alkanphel?

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Rayne Xolantra
Potentate Striker of Automagfreek
G.D.O.D.A.D

Presgreif

23-12-2003, 07:17

ooc: Gotta go to bed. Tired, very tired. I'll check up tomorrow. G'night.

Barbarosea

23-12-2003, 07:45

As Fredrick Barbarosea was busy taking shealter in the SYNOP bunker (in Omz222, for war) this transmission came in. It took about 5 seconds for the 132-bit encryption to handshake, but finally the fax machine whirred...

[code:1:8a5220e677]
++-**--*-/+/CODE .:568.721;;++-**--*-/-/
|0|0||0|00|0|00|00||0|0||0|00||
TO: Styker
FROM: IID
MESSAGE:
We have recived word that a GDODAD/Reich/Arda Allience Confrence is taking place in "Devasition"(OOC: Codename for Melkor) and they wish us to attend. Under NBO, your diplomat should attend, Mr. Fokker, but at the moment he is on leave. Who should we send? Also, we have matters that will be coded now.
...[/code:1:8a5220e677]

He looked the message over, Henry Lionheart was his best diplomat, but right now, he was leading the nation. Hmmm, if I send Henry, well "Downed" will rule, but it also will mean that the treaty will benifit the GDODAD, or it won't go through. Yes, Herny... With that thought he sent word back to send Henry Lionheard III. This would be a big incendent...
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Fredrick Barbarosea Jr.
High King of the Barbarosea Empire
GDODAD
CoE
Firestorm Regional Pact
Leader of JIDA
CoTW
UTP

Barbarosea

23-12-2003, 07:58

Offical Press Releasement to Barbarosean Public
"Today, Henry Lionheart III, acting leader of The Neverending Dictorial Land of Barbarosea, will be leaving to meet at a peace confrence that will address the growing danger of Biological Terrorists and ways to stop them. Thank you."

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Deep Underground, Henry (a.k.a. "Stikker") was loaded on to a supersonic VIP transport, along with 11 Elite Jagg's. Close by, 4 Z-1b's(With some, modifications) were being manned by more Elite Jagg's. As the crew was set, the planes started the 2 1/2 hour taxi to the above-ground runway.

OOC: It's for security reasons

Iesus Christi

23-12-2003, 09:10

Victory To God

Heil the Angel Melkor!
Blessed is he in the eyes of God. o true servant of the one holy God...
Angel Melkor-Iesus,all angels and saints sing of your works to the most high!
Oh Melkor! o Christ is with you! we are with you!
Arda and the reich are one forever! You were made by God to serve him forever! Glory Hosanna!

Automagfreek, Let Christ live in you, like he lives in Melkor...and yet we maybe all blood brothers!

Unity is strength!
Heil Victory

General James Rand:Appointed Diplomat to any 'talks'

Knootoss

23-12-2003, 15:37

#AIVD intelligence tag#

Thelas

23-12-2003, 17:10

OOC: I just saw Melkor being related to God, funny, because Eru means "the one" Eru also means "God" I wonder how Morgoth would react to being called a blessed of Eru...

23-12-2003, 19:14

The High Lord is greatly pleased with the possibility of a triple alliance between all three of these powerhouses. The High Lord shall make arrangments as soon as possible to attent

(occ: i need a sig)

Menelmacar

23-12-2003, 19:26

GDODAD, in its newest incarnation, had not as yet sufficiently proved itself level-headed enough to cater to Arda's interests.

OOC: But GDODAD did trounce ADK in record time (our first conflict since re-organization too).
ADK's player is a thirteen-year-old and an idiot. Touting ADK as a huge victory is like being proud of clubbing down a preschooler with a baseball bat.

~Siri

23-12-2003, 19:28

OOC: *really wants to scathingly mock Iesus IC* Damn this top secret mahooney.

Automagfreek

23-12-2003, 19:41

ADK's player is a thirteen-year-old and an idiot. Touting ADK as a huge victory is like being proud of clubbing down a preschooler with a baseball bat.

~Siri

OOC: Oh come on you know ADK, he never admits defeat. He's famous for acting invincible, and within a few days we had him on his knees.

Melkor Unchained

23-12-2003, 19:56

I encourage all to attend. The more people we have representing each alliance, the better. We much look forward to this glorious meeting, and the union of our alliances.

Lord Alkanphel
High Warlord of Lord Melkor's Imperium, First Counselor to Melkor Himself
http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/alkanphel1.jpg

Automagfreek

23-12-2003, 20:11

While in flight, Rayne read the message from General Rand and smiled. She issued a short reply.

Thank you General Rand, may fortune smile upon you and Iesus Christi always. I look forward to seeing either you or whoever plans on attending these talks. I will be arriving in Melkor Unchained soon, and I'll contact you from there.

http://www.angelfire.com/super2/freekisland/rayne2.jpg
Rayne Xolantra
Potentate Striker of Automagfreek
G.D.O.D.A.D

Barbarosea

23-12-2003, 20:51

Aboard Supersonic VIP Transport, Rainbow.

"Sir, we're 30 minutes out, is that letter done yet?"
"Why yes, it is, I am sending it now."
"Very good sir."

To: All (Art.1)
From: Henry Lionheart III
Re: GDODAD/Arda/Reich Allience
Message:
I am en route, and am looking foward to this meeting. God's Speed.

Although it was short, it surved the purpose...

Presgreif

24-12-2003, 04:21

A coded message arrives at Rayne Xolantra's shuttle:

"Greetings and salutations! I am in route to Melkor Unchained, and will be arriving at its borders within a few hours. Shall we rondevous?"

http://www.geocities.com/superlendl/Chris.jpg

Natalya de Greif,
High Mistress of Presgreif
Directoress of The Concert of High Lords
Proud and Loyal member of G.D.O.D.A.D.

Goobergunchia

24-12-2003, 23:05

#tag#

Automagfreek

25-12-2003, 07:41

Copiosa Scotia

25-12-2003, 07:57

...other leaders from across the glove...

(OOC: Hee hee. Or, in other words, tag.)

Automagfreek

25-12-2003, 08:00

...other leaders from across the glove...

(OOC: Hee hee. Or, in other words, tag.)

OOC: Oh, did I mention I get uncontrollably pissed when people jump all over me for a simple spelling error?

Melkor Unchained

25-12-2003, 22:24

Rayne's plane touched down inside Melkor Unchained after a few hour flight. After recieving orders where to land and gathering her items inside the plane, Rayne stepped out, curiously looking around her new surroundings. MU was certainly an interesting country to say the least, and Rayne was happy she finally got a chance to see it. After looking around abit, Rayne and her assistant began making their way to the designated discussion point. Tell Lord Melkor that I have arrived. Rayne said to her aide.

Soon other leaders from across the globe would meet in this one spot to discuss a matter that would most definatly change the course of history. Rayne almost had difficulty containing her excitement.

Lord Melkor was already very much aware of Rayne's arrival. Indeed, as she stepped out of the craft, a convoy of military vehicles paraded up to the plane, men wielding .50 cals on the tops. Kicking up a massive cloud of dust in their wake, the group comes to a stop after forming a circle around the plane, weapons aimed tentatively at Rayne and her entourage as she exited.

As if it was nothing, Foreign Minister Jay Reaven stepped out of his humvee, striding towards the AMF envoy with his hands folded behind his back. On one side he was flanked by Warlord marcus Garrand--the former Imperial Sky Marshal who had ordered strikes on AMF positions during the coalition war. An older man, Garrand possessed an air of guarded ambition and a regalness that could only be rivaled by his skill in the field. On his other side loomed Imperial Warlord Knorad Althalon, an ex-Xaosis! lackey who had a hand in training that company's elite marine force. A longtime veteran of Lord Melkor's Imperial Legion, the man exuded forcefulness and leadership.

Reaven was the only one to speak, at first. The shortest of the three, it was certianly an interesting contrast to have him do all the talking. He extended his hand to Rayne with guarded friendship, and grinned slightly. "Welcome to the Imperium, Rayne Xolantra. I am Imperial Foreign Minister Jay Reaven," he started. He gestured to his right, where the silver haired man bowed slightly. "This is Warlord Marcus Garrand, and this..." he continued, gesturing to the large man to his left "this is Warlord Konrad Althalon." Althalon tipped his head slightly and said nothing, his keen eyes scanning the woman intently.

Reaven drew his hand back, folding it with his other behind his back again, the smile slowly fading form his face as he talked. "We have much to discuss, of course," he said, leading the AMF delegation to a waiting grav-limousine, adorned on the doors with the Imperial Crest. "We here at the Imperium have been looking forawrd to this for some time--indeed our alliances will be unstoppable if unified." Reaven snickered. "The cold war with Menelmacar is a joke anymore. Arda and her allies have military capabilities far exceeding that of our Noldor counterparts."

As they came nearer to the car, the driver walked around to the rear of the craft and opened a door for the entourage to step in.

Reaven stopped at the door and bid Rayne to enter. "Come now, we will take you to the Imperial Hall. Lord Alkanphel awaits."

Presgreif

26-12-2003, 00:01

Natalya's shuttle touched down on Melkor at the spaceport which had been designated to her crew earlier. She stepped out of the shuttle, with an armed escort, she dressed in the official blue and white tunic of Presgreif's directorial core, they in the blue and white body suits of The Iron Angels Guard. A Melkorian official briskly approached her. She swept the hair out of her eyes and shouted over the hum of the engines, "My name is Natalya de Greif! Your Lord is expecting me!"

26-12-2003, 00:34

Overlord Var'chak walked into his office and sat down. Paperwork had piled up during his absence, despite having Rasputin to handle most of it.

He looked at the computer screen and selected the only message marked 'Priority'. He scowled at the screen. Great. This is just f*cking great. I find an alliance I like and boom, they join up with the religious wackos.

He turned on the vidlink and sent a message to the only person who he knew to be decent in the AMF government(no offense to the others, it's just the way Var'chak thinks). He didn't care if he wasn't in charge at the moment or not, he was the only one Var'chak would talk to.

"Minister Hartman, I am quite sure you are aware of the recent alliance talks. I have been away and only just now have gotton word of them. May I ask why the GDODAD would wish to allign with the likes of the Reich? Arda I can understand. Melkor thinks along the same lines I do, more or less. The Reich though... You can never tell what a religious zealot will do. They are unstable, however powerful they may be."

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Overlord Var'chak
Supreme Ruler of The Annexed States of Baggera (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=baggera)
Member: Arda Alliance (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_region/region=arda)
Member: World Biochem Proliferation Treaty (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=91463)
Member: GDODAD (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=95324)

Copiosa Scotia

26-12-2003, 00:45

...other leaders from across the glove...

(OOC: Hee hee. Or, in other words, tag.)

OOC: Oh, did I mention I get uncontrollably pissed when people jump all over me for a simple spelling error?

(OOC: Ease up, it was all in good fun. I'm not normally one to do something like that, but I just happened to find that slip particularly amusing.)

Diminix

26-12-2003, 01:30

[Quick n crappy rp]

Emperor Yayo listening to the assistants discuss the new Reich, Arda and GDODAD alliance. He started drifting off thinking of some other shit. The assistants in the background could be heard asking him for his thoughts and if a congratulations to the leaders of the alliance would be nessasary. Then you heard "Sir?".."Sir?" Emperor Yayo shook off the daydream and turned to his assistant.

"Um sure. As the leader of the Reich Lufftwaffe, our alliances with Arda and GDODAD are sure to be a strong and prosperous one. Send just that to TST, Iesus Christi and Melkor Unchained"

Fyreheart

26-12-2003, 01:48

BEGIN MESSAGE

TO: Reich, Arda, and GDODAD leaders
FROM: Nathan Hurst
RE: Proposed Alliance

My apologies to all of you, as I have been vacationing and have only heard of these talks upon my arrival home, just a few short hours ago.

As the newest member of Arda, {I think...} Fyreheart would like to send a delegation. Please be advised that Fyre One will be in the air shortly, and will contact you when we are nearing your airspce.

Make no mistakes gentlemen. If these talks succeed, the world will tremble before us.

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Prime Minister Nathan Hurst
The Armed Imperium of Fyreheart
Founder of I.C.O.N
Member of Arda

Melkor Unchained

26-12-2003, 02:23

As Natalya stepped form her shuttle, another delegation approached, this one consisting of several lower-level officials, the cheif of which was Warlord Althalon's Lieutenant Ordin Malekhai.

Malekhai approached the woman, smiling warmly. "Ah, yes of course he does. Unfortunately, the delegation will not be discussing these matters with Lord Melkor himself--indeed the very sight of him would likely terrify a good number of your delegation. He's a lot of things, but his appearance is seldom counted as one of his finer points," he said, chuckling.

"Come, now," he continued, leading her to a waiting personal transport. "We will ferry you to the Imperial Hall in downtown Ali'Staan, where we will discuss matters with the rest of the delegation. I will be unable to accompany you, unfortunately. While it is our custom to accompany foreign diplomats to our embassies, we have entirely too many of you coming today for me to make a point of driving you there myself."

Liverpool England

26-12-2003, 02:29

damn it saw this too late. TAG.

Vegana

26-12-2003, 22:33

Slobodan sat on the shuttle heading towards ARDA, reding the dossiers he had on the different nation within ARDA and GDODAD. It would be quite interesting to meet these men face to face. So far he had only their names and their faces to memorize, when he came to Alkanphel he froze. An elf?! That couldn't be, not an elf in ARDA! He wrinkled his eyebrows and studied the picture, checking the background he had received about this Alkanphel person. He shrugged, time would tell. He heard that they was about to enter ARDA airspace and he could hear the captain requesting admission as well as the fighters beginning to prepare entering ARDAn airspace in defensive pattern Omega

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Aelosia

26-12-2003, 22:56

TAG, (I'm scared, if this succeed, the world as we know it will tremble)

Fyreheart

26-12-2003, 23:32

TAG, (I'm scared, if this succeed, the world as we know it will tremble)

OOC: Told you. 8)

Western Asia

27-12-2003, 10:33

On hearing intelligence reports of high level communications between the Reich, Arda, and GDODAD about possible cooperations, Western Asia's intelligence chief had only one audible response "Oh fuck."

Canada-Germany

27-12-2003, 10:42

The agent who recived the information had this to say: "......." as he lay on the ground, fainted in Fright.

(or, Tag lol)

Menelmacar

27-12-2003, 14:02

Vegana

27-12-2003, 16:01

OOC: The Reich is a joke, GDODAD gets ignored by most people just on principle, including myself... which leaves Arda as Arda. Further, all three groups are basically allied already. Thusly, no change. So... I'm not particularly worried. Anyway, on with the show.

~Siri

OOC: Lol, I scent fear from the ole woman. Never thought I would do that =) Worried about your pretties my dear?

IC:
Slobodan pushed together his papers and closed his laptop. This would have to wait, they were on their way in for landing. He checked his seatbelts and leaned back with a small whisky in his hand. Gently shaking the icecubes in the whisky around making them go round and around in his little whisky glass, he sighed and did his little mental exercises to calm himself for the landing.

Copiosa Scotia

27-12-2003, 19:14

(OOC: Now that this has gone public, via an exchange between Automagfreek and New Genoa...)

"Through UNAOTO channels, Copiosa Scotia has become aware of high-level talks between the GDODAD, the Reich, and Arda concerning an alliance of the three organizations. On behalf of the free nations of the world, Copiosa Scotia says this: We fear you no more now than when you claimed to be separate."

- Michael MacFarlane, Speaker of the Assembly

Automagfreek

27-12-2003, 21:53

OOC: The Reich is a joke

Suuuure....

GDODAD gets ignored by most people just on principle

:roll: Yeah, we get ignored because we've taken time to clean up our act and become an alliance of serious RPers. It's nice to know this is how we're rewarded for our effort. [/rant]

Menelmacar

27-12-2003, 22:30

Yes, the Reich is a joke. They've got maybe four active members, only one of which has any real military strength (that is to say, of a magnitude sufficient to last longer than fifteen minutes against Menelmacar, one-on-one), and that individual has all the tactical and strategic skill of a random rock.

As for GDODAD, I'll believe you're serious RPers when I see some serious RP. I suspect this is everyone else's feeling too, and this requirement has yet to be fulfilled.

~Siri

Presgreif

28-12-2003, 01:40

Bitter and arrogant as always.

Abu-Dhabi Khristatata

28-12-2003, 04:37

That can't be right...

Are Sheridan and Bester allies now?

Great... That's just what we need, a bunch of psychotic telepaths loyal to a guy who thinks he's the Second Coming.

Barbarosea

28-12-2003, 05:22

As the Barbarosean plane landed, HTL stepped out along with the 9 elite Jagg's. They looked around, the Jagg's knew this land, as they had fought here against other forces, defending the Melkor Unchained homeland. HTL wandered off towards a statue of a soldier being dragged towards a plane that was taking off. He thought back to the time of the war, and remembered how hard his troops fought. They're off doing the same thing in Omz222. They waited for the motorcade to bring them to the place of confrence.

Iesus Christi

28-12-2003, 07:01

totally OOC: I was going to rant about lots of things, but no, I'll leave it down to 'viva la difference' .... merry Christmas to all! tidings of comfort and joy!

IC: General James Rand is proud to attend, to be at this meeting, to bare the weight of Iesus Christ in this wonderful meeting.
His arrival should be meet with no formality, being this is Christmas

OOC:sorry-Xmas and busy and all :) real post latter/assume he coems all chipper etc!

Wretchengard

29-12-2003, 02:00

The Eternal Dominion of Wretchengard will, of course, have a delegate present at this meeting, perhaps the Overlord himself. He looks forward to strengthening our friendships with nations of both the Reich and the GDODAD.

Arman Grimwald
Lord of Foreign Relations

OOC: Are we going to RP this meeting before the "Fall of Melkor", or after? The time frame this takes place in will have a big effect on who gets sent to the meeting...

Automagfreek

29-12-2003, 02:23

OOC: Are we going to RP this meeting before the "Fall of Melkor", or after? The time frame this takes place in will have a big effect on who gets sent to the meeting...

OOC: Before, because that thread surfaced after this one started. BTW, TM me a list of events in the "Fall of Melkor" thread. I'm abit lost.

Also, here's the OOC thread: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2471076

Diminix

29-12-2003, 02:49

The Emperor was in a restraunt eating dinner before he boarded his plane to go to the Arda/Reich/GDODAD meetings. His wife and his foreign relations minister, Chingy were next to him. The Emperor was eating but his wife wasn't. He looked at her.

"Why aren't you eating your food?" - Emperor
"I'm not hungry" - Wife

He looked at Chingy.

"Then why the f*ck did you order it?" - Emperor
"I lost my appetite" - Wife

The emperor shook his head and took a sip of wine.

"Is this what it's all about? Eating, Drinking, F*cking, Sucking. You fifty, you got a bag for a belly. You got tits, you need a bra. They got hair on them. You got a liver, it's got spots on them. I got a f*ckin' junkie for a wife man. She sleeps all day, with them black shades on. Wakes up with a qualou and who won't f*ck me cause she's a coma. You know. I can't even have a kid with her. Her womb .. is so polluted, that I can't even have a f*ckin' little baby with her man" - Emperor

The emperor took a small bag out of his pocket full of yayo, smeared it out on a table, made a line and snorted it all up. Turning to Chingy.

(Low Voice)"You bastard.." - Wife

"Come on.." - Chingy

Then his wife threw a cup of wine at him.

"How dare you talk to me like that! What do you do? You do drugs, and you kill people. Yeah, real good. Good contribution to human history. You want a kid, Tony? Are you going to drive him to school in the morning? Will you even be alive be time the kid goes to school? This is bullshit. I'm leaving" - Wife

Chingy went to walk behind telling the emperor he'd bring her back but the emperor refused telling him let her go.

"I got too much shit on my mind to be worrying about that bitch. I'm leaving in an hour anyway, going to those meetings." - Emperor

((I know most people think this post is useless to the meetings but I need a little excitement so I'm gonna put the emperor into a really f*cked up mood))

Wretchengard

29-12-2003, 22:58

Diminix

30-12-2003, 05:14

((Btw where is the meeting taking place?))

Wretchengard

30-12-2003, 05:50

OOC: The conference will be taking place in the city of Ali'Staan in the Imperium of Melkor Unchained, unless I am mistaken.

Syskeyia

30-12-2003, 05:56

Lord Alkanphel
High Warlord of Lord Melkor's Imperium, First Counselor to [the late] Melkor Himself
http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/alkanphel1.jpg
Just correcting. :D

Oh, Iesus Christi, did you know that Melkor Unchained and the Brotherhood of Nod (one leading Arda, the other a major member of GDODAD) support slavery?

OOC: I'm still displeased that Menelmacar and Iesus Christi decided to ignore each other; if they had not, Menelmacar could send footage from SHODAN to Iesus about Arda slavery.

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia

Wretchengard

30-12-2003, 09:22

Lord Alkanphel
High Warlord of Lord Melkor's Imperium, First Counselor to [the late] Melkor Himself
http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/alkanphel1.jpg
Just correcting. :D

Melkor's not dead, and certainly not forgotten. He is just (temporarily) imprisoned.

Oh, Iesus Christi, did you know that Melkor Unchained and the Brotherhood of Nod (one leading Arda, the other a major member of GDODAD) support slavery?

Shhhut up....!

OOCly (and ICly too, I suppose) I really hope these talks go well. Evil needs to be at least semi-unified if we're going to stick it to all those lousy daisy sniffin' do-gooders. :evil:

Seraphim Order Embassy

30-12-2003, 09:29

Oh, Iesus Christi, did you know that Melkor Unchained and the Brotherhood of Nod (one leading Arda, the other a major member of GDODAD) support slavery?

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia

"Syskeyia should note that often nations which share similar, overarching goals and consequently form alliances to achieve these goals will often overlook any perceived differences in how their allies conduct themselves internally. This is reality.

For example, we wonder as to why Syskeyia did not try to sow division amongst Menelmacar or Melkor Unchained for their "unholy pact" - however temporary that union was. Perhaps their weak efforts of trying to create division between Arda, the Reich, and GDODAD are plain for all to see?"

Seraphim Order Embassy

Presgreif

31-12-2003, 07:17

No, we will not be discouraged. This union will go forward. Sorry :twisted:

Presgreif

31-12-2003, 07:42

Communique to The Participants of The GDODAD/Arda/Reich Conference

Friends, allies, comrades at arms. It is with the deepest regret that I must inform you all that I will not be present at this event for which we have assembled. My nation is ragged and torn by a war with Bolsheviks who will show us no quarter....and I must be with my men. I cannot bear the thought of leaving them without the great inspiration they find manifest in my person, their Mistress.
I would, however, like to leave a representative of Presgreif to represent and speak for me in all matters. She is my most trusted subject, and I hope you will all recieve her well as my eyes and ears and tongue at this conference.
I hope to see you all again in better times, and will certainly return to Melkor should this war end before the conference does. I shall pray for the successfull conclusion of this in which we partake, the greatest union of nations this galaxy has ever seen.
I remain your loyal friend and ally,

Natalya de Greif

P.S.

Oh yes, I would like to present to you all she who is to represent me during my absence:

http://www.blackmaxpc.com/avatarsmiles/avatars/gallery/D&D/priestess.gif

Sarah Maria Decados, Duchess of Estonia

Syskeyia

31-12-2003, 17:09

Akilliam

31-12-2003, 17:59

The Empire of Akilliam will take this opportunity to denounce Iesus Christi. That proud nation has long fought for right and good, even if the fight was too fanatical at times. But this reaffirmation of good will between Iesus and the forces of clear evil, Melkor and Automagfreek, is an apostasy. It is a clear apostasy.

GDODAD has fallen, and come back in a weaker form. The Reich grows weaker with each day. Now they cling to Arda in a hope of reviving that which is no more. We believe that in a long fight, the Reich and GDODAD will only draw Arda down.

Fear the Eagles
Dictator Aelius

31-12-2003, 18:53

Lord Christopher hopes that these talks will be beneficial for all.

31-12-2003, 22:42

OOC: *kicks AMF in the shin* Answer my post on the second page! Either here or in TG.

Goobergunchia

31-12-2003, 22:59

-----RETCONNED----

Derto

31-12-2003, 23:07

OMG GDODAD is still alive and kicking. I remember back in april(?) when GDODAD was really powerful and dangerous, Silver Turtle, Klamath. But soon after it fell into its long sleep. I hope that you Automagfreek pull this of. I miss those days when you had a real enemy, namely GDODAD.

Although I dislike GDODAD I wish you good luck on your quest Automagfreek.

OOCly Happy New Year from a cold Stockholm

Automagfreek

01-01-2004, 00:36

OOC: Um.....all you other guys don't know about this ICly. I let the cat out the bag accidently in another thread, but it got hijacked and the post (along with many others) was deleted. So...nobody knows about this except GDODAD, Arda, and The Reich.. And from now on direct all OOC comments to the OOC thread please.

Wretchengard

01-01-2004, 00:38

The Silver Turtle

01-01-2004, 01:49

The Great Ineffable Bob looked around at the devastation from the new years party and suddenly thought he was meant to be somewhere.
Seconds later, remembering his overdue appointment, he boarded his private craft theRed Dwarf and set off for Arda, pausing only briefly to inform General Whang of his trip.

Transmission:
From: General Whang, Whangalorian High Command, The Ineffable Imperial Dominion of Whang, Arda
To: Government Centres and Air Defence Stations around Arda
Encryption: Medium (Message carrier wave only powerful enough to reach other nations in Arda
Subject: The meetings
Message:
Nations of Arda, The Great Ineffable Bob, Emperor of The Ineffable Empire and Leader of The GDODAD will shortly be arriving for the meetings in his private craft. Details of said craft enclosed. The Red Dwarf will be landing here in Whang, from where he will then be transported to the meetings.
For any nations spying on this trnasmission, I can assure you that all above events are entirely fictional, and any and all resemblance to events past, present or future is entirely coincidental. Thank You.
[b]The Great General Whang, Loyal Servant of The Great Ineffable Bob

The Silver Turtle

01-01-2004, 02:13

OOCly (and ICly too, I suppose) I really hope these talks go well. Evil needs to be at least semi-unified if we're going to stick it to all those lousy daisy sniffin' do-gooders. :evil:

NO!!!

DOWN WITH EVIL!!!
LONG LIVE THE DO-GOODERS!!! :D

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia
*orders his Giant-Spaceship-Built-Round-A-Cannon to fire a small Evil Iceburg (©2003 Coalition of Evil Weapons Manufacturing, Advanced R&D Department) at Syskeyia from high orbit*
...
*watches with dismay as it melts on the way down, then turns to his nearest advisor*
"Continue the research."

OOC: Tag. Really should've done that with my last post, but I forgot...

Goobergunchia

01-01-2004, 20:55

We will be monitoring these meetings closely. We have already made clear our stance of opposition to all three of these groups and will not brook any new agression by them.

Office of GDODAD Affairs
Goobergunchian Foreign Ministry
UnAPS Member

What meetings? The administration of the Eternal Dominion of Wretchengard denies knowledge of any Arda/Reich/GDODAD meetings.

Arman Grimwald
Lord of Foreign Relations

OOC: These are secret meetings, remember?

AMF mentioned them ICly in another thread. He retconned that above, however not until after I had made my post. Given that I am not psychic, the statement was valid when I made it.

I will now retcon my post.

This has been an OOC post.

Sigma Octavus

01-01-2004, 21:08

-damn double posts-

Sigma Octavus

01-01-2004, 21:08

OOC: ICly, this is cause for concern.

Melkor Unchained

03-01-2004, 00:58

Overlord Bradley Steelblood and his son High Justicar Thanos Steelblood approached Ali'Staan in a military grav-shuttle. After years travel by jet or helicopter, the much smoother ride of the new gravitic vessels still seemed odd to the Overlord. It was time to get with the times however, and the aging ruler was not so set in his ways that he would not accept superior technology.

"We will begin landing procedure shortly my lords," the pilot announced over the com.

Once the shuttle had touched down upon firm ground, the Overlord and his heir rose to their feet and walked down the exit ramp, flanked by 8 members of the Overlord's personal guard (the Black Guard, as they are called in Wretchengard). A number of servants followed behind them, carrying luggage. The Wretchan delegation stood patiently on the landing pad, waiting for someone to greet them and guide them to their quarters.

These were met by none other than Lord Alkanphel himself. An aura of power and terror was ever ahead of him as he strode through the darkness toward the craft, his bright eyes keen as if with white flame. With him strode a dozen Imperial Guard, tall and terrible, and apparently, cllutching mighty pulse rifles.

The guards stopped some distance away and stood at ease. Alkanphel strode out to Lord Steelblood and his entourage Crossing his arms behind his back, he bowed to the Wretchan delegation and his demeanor seemed to lessen. "Welcome, friends, to the Shadow of Thangorodrim." He turned, and gestured to the horizon, where the three mighty peaks of Thangorodrim jutted from the earth, belching black fumes and mighty bursts of lava from its summit. A red glow permeated the sky around the looming peaks, which seemed close. He led the party down the tarmac.

He bowed, and gestured behind him and to his left, where a gravitic limousine waited. He began walking, and continued. "We're more than sure that you're of similar mind to us. It seems to me to be plainly obvious that Arda has the most to gain from this proposed 'pact,'" he said, thoughtfully. "We've examined their requests and demeanor--especially from Automagfreek--who was, if you may or may not recall-- part of the coalition attack some time ago. They seem distressed. The Reich less so, for we beleive the Reich is a little stronger yet. But plainly Arda is the dominant power of the world, and as such we see it prudent to advocate Ardan rule over the alliance. Would you agree?" he asked, with a shot sidelong to The Wretchan Lord.

"I don't mean to imply they're not to be valaint an trusted allies, but surely GDODAD gets its nose involved in entirely too much. This has weakened them substantially in the long run, as they're in their third and weakest incarnation. Under Ardan jurisdiction, they would prosper and become more valuable to us. It's surely for the good of all."

Lord Alkanphel
High Warlord of Lord Melkor's Imperium, First Counselor to Melkor Himself
http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/alkanphel1.jpg

Diminix

03-01-2004, 01:13

Vegana

03-01-2004, 02:37

"Ahhhh!" Slobodan stepped out of his plane and looked out towards the horizon, where the three mighty peaks of Thangorodrim jutted from the earth, belching black fumes and mighty bursts of lava from its summit. A red glow permeated the sky around the looming peaks, which seemed close. "What a wonderful scenery"

He stepped down the stairs followed by his aide, Erik. He was a bit curious of what this meeting was to be about. But he would met quite a few interesting personalities so he was quite sure it wouldn't be all in vain. He saw a gravitic limousine waiting with a driver and walked towards it, breathing in deep to savor the air.

http://members.cox.net/davage/images/Slobodan.jpg

Melkor Unchained

03-01-2004, 02:44

The large private jet, The Yayo XII, was still on the Diminix airport runway. It was a clear and sunny day and from almost a mile away you could see the motorcade carrying the emperor coming through to the plane. After a few minutes the motorcade arrived and Emperor Yayo stepped out of the middle car with the Diminix Foreign Relations Minister, Chingy. No words were exchanged with the pilot of the plane and the emperor or his guards. The pilot got into the plane walked into the cockpit. Soon after two secret servicemen walked into the plane with the emperor following them and more SS men. Then the door closed with the motorcade pulling away from the runway. An hour or so later the plane was on it's way to the Imperium. Inside the plane itself the emperor lay in his bed in the back of the plane with a cigar. Then a knock was heard on the door.

"Yeah, come in." -Emperor

Chingy walked in.

"Sir, pilot says we'll be entering the Imperiums airspace in a few minutes." -Chingy

"How long till touchdown?" -Emperor

"About twenty minutes" -Chingy

"Alright.." -Emperor

Back in the cockpit the Pilot and the co-Pilot were sort of nervous flying into the Imperium. They looked at eachother nervously as they knew in about a minute they would come in. One pressed a button in the front of him and held his speaker a little closer to his head.

"Diminix flights twelve, requesting directions to Ali'Staan."

They awaited a responce.

As they drew near to the black lands of the Dark Lord's Imperium, a squadron of raven black fighters descended in formation around the craft. Instructions from Ali'Staan were simple: follow the escort and land at .

The vast blackness of Dor Daedoloth swirled before the formation as the drew nearer. THangorodrim was ever present in the North, belching vast torrents of molten rock from its peak.

In the distance, the 8th, 8th, and 10th fleets loomed, ever-present with their mighty dreadnoughts.

Melkor, Lord of Darkness
[i]He who Arises in Might
Emperor Eternal of the Imperial Dominion of Melkor Unchained, Lord and Master of Arda
http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/melkor.jpg

Wretchengard

03-01-2004, 02:57

These were met by none other than Lord Alkanphel himself. An aura of power and terror was ever ahead of him as he strode through the darkness toward the craft, his bright eyes keen as if with white flame. With him strode a dozen Imperial Guard, tall and terrible, and apparently, cllutching mighty pulse rifles.

The guards stopped some distance away and stood at ease. Alkanphel strode out to Lord Steelblood and his entourage Crossing his arms behind his back, he bowed to the Wretchan delegation and his demeanor seemed to lessen. "Welcome, friends, to the Shadow of Thangorodrim." He turned, and gestured to the horizon, where the three mighty peaks of Thangorodrim jutted from the earth, belching black fumes and mighty bursts of lava from its summit. A red glow permeated the sky around the looming peaks, which seemed close. He led the party down the tarmac.

He bowed, and gestured behind him and to his left, where a gravitic limousine waited. He began walking, and continued. "We're more than sure that you're of similar mind to us. It seems to me to be plainly obvious that Arda has the most to gain from this proposed 'pact,'" he said, thoughtfully. "We've examined their requests and demeanor--especially from Automagfreek--who was, if you may or may not recall-- part of the coalition attack some time ago. They seem distressed. The Reich less so, for we beleive the Reich is a little stronger yet. But plainly Arda is the dominant power of the world, and as such we see it prudent to advocate Ardan rule over the alliance. Would you agree?" he asked, with a shot sidelong to The Wretchan Lord.

"I don't mean to imply they're not to be valaint an trusted allies, but surely GDODAD gets its nose involved in entirely too much. This has weakened them substantially in the long run, as they're in their third and weakest incarnation. Under Ardan jurisdiction, they would prosper and become more valuable to us. It's surely for the good of all."

Lord Alkanphel
High Warlord of Lord Melkor's Imperium, First Counselor to Melkor Himself

Overlord Bradley Steelblood and High Justicar Thanos Steelblood each bowed slightly as Alkanphel bowed, and the Overlord made introductions. This would be the first time he had actually met with Alkanphel in person, after all. The Overlord walked alongside the Lord Alkanphel, with the rest of the Wretchan delegation dropping back in deference to their master.

"Yes, I remember well Automagfreek's involvement in that Coalition fiasco, although it was under a different administration. In recent years they have lost most of their old allies, and are no doubt eager to gain new ones more suited to their current administration," the massive Wretchan Overlord replied, meeting Alkanphel's glance with his own cold gaze, which Alkanphel would notice was abnormally forceful for a human's. "I would definitely agree that Arda is the strongest, and should have greater say in any pact formed. It would be in the best interest of all parties, methinks, for the Reich is often inactive and GDODAD often too active, getting into trouble that weakens it, as you said. We are definitely the most stable, as well as the most powerful, and thus best suited to lead such a venture."

He stroked his beard thoughtfully as he walked.

"The problem is that, not surprisingly, GDODAD and Reich nations may not quite agree with our assessment," he continued grimly. "It is hard not to grow an ego when one belongs to a great alliance, after all. I fear if we push for too much, we may alienate the others and damage our relationships with valuable allies. Our enemies are unified, for the most part. If we mess this up, we may be left in a vulnerable position. I'm sure you agree that however we proceed with this, we must do so carefully..."

Automagfreek

03-01-2004, 03:24

OOC: Not sure if I can jump in on this conversation (I'm not sure if we're all in 1 place yet), but to stir up talk I will.

Rayne walked in on the conversation, either intentionally or accidentally.

I'm glad to see that the talks have begun. I hope I'm not too late. Rayne tossed her hair behind her shoulders and continued talking. I could not help but hear that last part. I can assure you that the GDODAD at this stage is anything but fully active. I do agree that this incarnation may be the "weakest" or least active, but I can assure that we ourselves are not weak. The full might of GDODAD has yet to be seen because with organizations such as the now defunct LAGD watching our every move to the T, we kinda have to lay low. It seems to have worked, because LAGD is now defunct because we have laid low. GDODAD has alot of powerful nations on it's roster, and I can assure you that GDODAD will be a most powerful ally.

Rayne paused for a second, trying to figure out just what to say next. She batted her red eyes a few times, then licked her lips slowly. I do agree with my Wretchen friend about how this pact needs to try and be as equal as possible. We all know Arda is a very powerful organization, but The Reich and especially GDODAD are very strong too. In order to strengthen the bonds of this union, we must not have 1 particular organization have too much say/power. I fear that if we do not install certain checks and balances, this alliance may already be doomed to fall. We all know Arda is top dog in the world right now, but for the sake of unity we must treat each organization equally. I know it may be hard for Arda to get used to not having absolute power, but believe me it is for the greater good. Our enemies are scattered and divided. They are constantly at eachother's throats with their politics and armies, and this is a very large advantage for us all. Hence why I raised the question of this triple alliance in the first place. If we are to take full advantage of our lack of resistance, then we must stand together equally.

Rayne finished her statement and folded her arms across her chest. She was anxious to see what kind of response she would get.

Grays Hill

03-01-2004, 04:08

The Dictator of Grays hill has taken off to head to Melkor to take place in the talks. Being that I am a member of The Reich and GDODAD, I feel it important to be there. His plane should arrive soon.

Melkor Unchained

03-01-2004, 04:59

Immediately, the Imperial Guard broke ranks and fell into a protective formation around Alkanphel and the Wretchan delegation. They levelled their weapons at the advancing figure, but Alkanphel bid them to part, allowing the woman to make her points. His eyes flashed.

"Arda has come to the fore of the world stage by similar leadership. While Melkor handles much of our workings, our closest allies hold no small amount of influence over our thoughts and actions. Come now, you wouldnt be altogether powerless under our provisions. But alas, all will be revealed in the council chambers," he concluded, with a nod.

Wretchengard

03-01-2004, 09:58

Overlord Bradley Steelblood was somewhat surprised, and more than a little annoyed at the woman's interruption. Energy began to build within him as his black magicks were readied, and his hand dropped to his belt, ready to draw his sword. Although his face remained stoic and his glare as cold as always, he entertained the notion for a brief second of destroying her where she stood. If she were a simple diplomat or ambassador, and he were in his domain, he may well have done so and simply fixed it to look like a tragic accident.

But alas, that would not do. He recognized her as the new leader of Automagfreek, Rayne, and lashing out at a dictator on an allies soil before a peaceful meeting would badly damage his reputation. The Overlord let his anger cool and listened to Rayne say her piece. Despite his irritation, the Overlord had to admire her boldness at approaching Lord Alkanphel and himself during what was obviously a private conversation. The Overlord remained silent as Alkanphel spoke to her, simply meeting her eyes with his unnerving cold gaze and offering a curt nod when Melkor's right-hand had finished.

imported_Kalessin

03-01-2004, 12:41

[tag]

Vegana

03-01-2004, 15:27

Slobodan and Erik walked out of the limo and towards the rooom they were shown, the room that would hold the conference.

Melkor Unchained

03-01-2004, 17:46

Alkanphel pushed his brows together, annoyed by the intrusion. Gesturing to his companions, he led them on to the Imperial Hall, a short distance off.

A glance was given to Steelblood, and Alkanphel's voice echoed in the Wretchan Lord's mind. "This simply proves their rashness. They must be held close at bay."

As the troupe plodded towards the meeting hall, a squad of large Haradrim men heaved the mighty oaken doors open, and Alkanphel stepped inside. Statues of old heroes adorned the entrance hall, foremost of which was the likeness of Gothmog, looming tall and terrible above the men as they entered, flanked by likenesses of Ancalagon and Glaurung, mighty dragons of old.

A beautiful red and gold carpet led the way through the foyer, with guards standing close watch every 10 yards or so, thir faces ever staring diligently ahead. Soon they made their way to a large, open room with an iron table in the center. Some delegates were already assembled, and Alkanphel addressed them with a deep bow. "Distant friends, emissaries from afar: I present to you none other than Lord Bradley Steelblood, and his son, High Justicar Thanos Steelblood, mighty rulers of Wretchengard. Long have they been of tremendous value to our glorious alliance, and I bid you to listen to their words, and mine. For now we shall commence our proceedings, and together strive to strengthen our ties in such a way as to make the very earth tremble before our mighty wrath," he siad, as men showed the delegates to their seats.

Alkanphel himself strode to the largest of the assembled seats, sitting upon a dias wrought of iron and stone, with guards on either side. He stroked his chin in thought, and continued. "But we must first establish our terms, of course: and I'm sure we all have our own ideas." He looked around intently. "Come now, let's hear them."

Lord Alkanphel
High Warlord of Lord Melkor's Imperium, First Counselor to Melkor Himself
http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/alkanphel1.jpg

Vegana

03-01-2004, 18:11

Slobodan leaned forward and looked around, a gentle smile on his face. He tried to remember which person came from what nation and tried to put names on the faces. He had no intention what so ever to start the talks, after all he had been invited here so the people here must have something to say? He looked with the keen interest of a small boy preparing to pluck the legs of an insect at Alkanphel. That person was extremely interesting, what was he? Was he an elf? Slobodan wondered what his inner would look like. He didn't quite look like an elf but then again, it was hard to know without doing the proper vivisection. Slobodan sighed and smiled again at the gathered people.

http://members.cox.net/davage/images/Slobodan.jpg

Barbarosea

03-01-2004, 18:47

HTL walked into the chamber and seated himself next to Rayne. "So, bring me upto date, what's happened?"

03-01-2004, 22:16

The Yayo XII landed at the airport in Ali'Staan. The doors opened and outwalked two secretservicemen who looked around and shrugged. The emperor walked out all dressed up.

http://65.118.86.225/store/images/scarfacesuit.jpg

He turned around to Chingy and pointed around.

"We don't get no f*cking welcoming comitte? Where the f*ck are we supposed to be going anyway? This place looks confusing as f*ck" -Tony

Melkor Unchained

03-01-2004, 23:21

A number of Imperial Guardsmen approached the party as they descended to the tarmac. A crimson clad captain spoke forcefully, his voice rumbling from under the mask he wore. "Come now, the meeting is underway."

Melkor, Lord of Darkness
He who Arises in Might
Emperor Eternal of the Imperial Dominion of Melkor Unchained, Lord and Master of Arda
http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/melkor.jpg

Wretchengard

03-01-2004, 23:46

Overlord Bradley Steelblood and his son bowed briefly as they were introduced, and then took their seats. The Overlord waved his hand in a simple gesture at his guards, who were still lingering around the outskirts of the room, standing vigilant. The tall black armoured men stood at ease, and left the room to find food or relax for a short time. He had faith that Lord Melkor's security would be more than enough to protect their meeting from attack or other interference, and the guards had been mostly for show anyhow. The Steelblood lords waited patiently for the assembled delegates to enter the meeting hall and find their seats so that the meeting could begin in earnest.

Diminix

04-01-2004, 18:21

imported_Kalessin

05-01-2004, 02:34

The resident Kalessin ambassador in Melkor Unchained, a certain Count Gorhilsje al Iopuive, entered the Imperial Hall through a back door with his entourage, having come from his quarters within the Palace.

Presgreif

05-01-2004, 07:59

Sarah walked across the room toward her own faction. She nodded toward the Emperor of Diminix, and gave him a slight smile, out of courtesy. She was well aware that this man was a benefactor of her mistress, and that it was through his efforts that Natalya inherited The Empire of Brass Rails. A close friend of her mistress's indeed, then. Perhaps a lover? To her the thought was repulsive, he was repulsive. She mentaly checked herself: it was not her place to question her Mistress's relations. She approached the representatives of Automagfreek and Barbarosea, greeted them with a low bow and some curtious words, and then took her place to their right, letting out a slight sigh.

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Sarah Maria Decados
High Ambassador of The Greif

Melkor Unchained

05-01-2004, 12:03

The emperor shrugged and signalled for his bodyguards to follow the guardsmen and he would follow them. They walked along a long hallway until they entered a room. The emperor looked in, pulling out a small device from his pocket, putting it to his nose and snorting up. He leaned his head back and then looked around the room. He noticed many leaders of other countries who his father had once worked alongside with. Then he walked over to a long table and took a seat. Next to him sat Chingy, and behind him stood his bodyguards.

As the man reached into his pockets, the guards twitched. standing at ease when they see it's not any sort of weapon, they allow his entourage inside.

Once The Emepror and Chingy sit down, Alkanphel looks to each of them in turn. He tipps his chin down in a slight half nod. "You do not need your bodyguards here, or anyone else, for that matter. I think we're all friends here, and the first requisite to a lasting relationship is, of course, mutual trust."

He nodded to his left, and again to his right, where on the walls two smaller doors opened. His guards file out. Alkanphel peers intently at his counterparts, each in turn.

Lord Alkanphel
High Warlord of Lord Melkor's Imperium, First Counselor to Melkor Himself
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Vegana

05-01-2004, 15:39

He nodded to his left, and again to his right, where on the walls two smaller doors opened. His guards file out. Alkanphel peers intently at his counterparts, each in turn.

Slobodan met his stare with an interested look. He wondered what kind of creature this might be. He was almost sure this wasn't an elf, he had felt almost the same around a elf farseer he had vivisected hunting for one of the famous soulstones. He had found it and still had it in his collection, remarkable little gem that. He wondered when this meeting was supposed to really start, there were still people coming through the doors. But patience was a virtue he had had good use of as a scientist before. He sipped some water, and looked some more at the other participants. He had to ask for some more funding to his projects, there was so much more to learn from elven anatomy.

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Vegana

05-01-2004, 18:30

*Bump for AMF*

Automagfreek

05-01-2004, 18:45

OOC: Sorry...busy RPing with Pantera

IC:

Rayne had fallen silent since she dropped in on the conversation which obvisouly wasn't meant for her ears. Even one as stuck up as her was humbled by her surrounding dignitaries. Rayne simply did what everyone else was doing for the time being, as she didn't want to poorly represent not only AMF but the GDODAD as well. She was slightly relieved to see the representative from Presgreif, and she bowed in respect. Boy, there are some interesting characters here....I hope these talks go as planned... She whispered into Sarah's ear.

Rayne took up her designated seat and crossed her legs slowly. She was still troubled slightly be the reaction of Alkanphel's guards, but suspicion did not cross her mind though. She said not a word, but instead waited to be spoken to. The stakes were too high here to make bad impressions...especially in a land that once was intruded by AMF forces.

Barbarosea

06-01-2004, 02:14

OOC: AMF, your supposed to fill me in ;)

The Silver Turtle

06-01-2004, 17:43

The Great Ineffable Bob strode in, not waiting for his scurrying lackey Bob Minor to catch up. Looking around the room, noting the wide array of nations represented, he looked for The GDODAD representatives.
Bob Minor finally arrived too, and began to clear his throat to announce TGI Bob's arrival, before the Emperors hand made it very clear to the minion that such an announcement would not go down well with anyone. Dragging Bob Minor behind him, TGI Bob walked over to the corner apparently reserved for The GDODAD, wondering for a moment why potential allies were all sticking close to their current friends rather than meeting new officials. But, he reflected, he was going to go with the flow as was the nature of sentient beings so much of the time, and sat himself down beside the other GDODAD delegates. Whispering across to them, he asked "Have I missed much yet?". A short muffled cry behind him made him realised Bob Minor was once again in the realms of consciousness, so he told his attendant to get himself a chair and sit beside him. Very quietly, unless otherwise ordered. Bob Minor nodded to show he understood, and sat down beside his Emperor.

Iesus Christi

07-01-2004, 09:34

General rand rushed to his sea..his face red and flush.
"oh yes gentlemen...ummmm where were we....oh yes...
iesus Christi would be honoured if we could hammer out ..trade..defence..and acceptance of the blood and honour laws during our time here...oh...yes...we're past that...oh...lets move on..."

Melkor Unchained

07-01-2004, 09:46

Alkanphel nodded curtly at the various comments, and rose a hand, silencing the delegation. With a flicker, his eyes slid from delegate to delegate as he spoke. "It is my beleif that the assembled GDODAD and Reich elements have far more to gain from this treaty than we do. Arda already has close relations to both of your organizations. To suggest that we strengthen them obliges us to change the circumstances of our structure. The only conceivable option, as I see it, would be more or less of an alliance merge. Perhaps a covert one, to be unleashed only in the face of mutual adversity."

He lowered his hand and stirred slightly in his seat. "Understand, an alliance of autocracies can wield much power, but we must not allow our beleifs to be compromised. Why, then, do we see alliances of dictators taking votes? Why do they not run their alliances like they rule their countries?" He shook his head. "An alliance of the strong must be ruled by the strong. Arda is clearly the dominant power."

Lord Alkanphel
High Warlord of Lord Melkor's Imperium, First Counselor to Melkor Himself
http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/alkanphel1.jpg

Iesus Christi

07-01-2004, 09:50

General rand leant forward
"We cannot agree with your ...conclusions...not at all...
Unless say...Melkor would embrace its role in the works of the cross...
offically admit he was a angel sent by Jesus....
otherwise we could not be lead in any fastion in such a alliance..."

Vegana

07-01-2004, 10:38

Melkor Unchained

07-01-2004, 10:52

Ahh... So this is his plan, blatantly presented but it saved time. Slobodan thought. He listened to General Rand blurting out something about Melkor accepting his role as an angel and taking the cross. That could indeed be interesting.. His information about Melkor didn't exactly fit the description of a pious crusader. He smiled and leaned forward:

"As the good general Rand said, I'm not sure how you possibly can come to the conclusion about we are gaining the most out of the Status Quo. As you said , we already have a pact with ARDA and our relations with GDODAD have never been bad." Slobodan drank a glass of water "Saying that however, I am sure everyone here are interested in how you would run such an operation and what the plans would be for such a mammoth alliance in the case such would be founded. We believe that Melkor would be one of the stronger nation in such an alliance and am sure that he could tell us some of the plans his cunning mind have thought out.

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Alkanphel nods. "Indeed. I was going to go into that, but decided to hear out some responses first. Our planned workings of the alliance would not be altogether not too unlike how we here run Arda. There would be the ruling class, and the lesser follower states, none of which I beleive have delegates present. Well, Arda's more of an Oligarchy, but to be honest, but we all know that in the end, Melkor has pretty much the final word. Barring in some instances the Emperor of Kalessin of course," he said, with a nod to his Kalessini counterpart.

He cleared his throat and leaned forward, interlacing his fingers on the table in front of him. "It's not to suggest that any one of you would be altogether powerless under the provisions of our proposal. Look at what our members have accomplished within our alliance if you seek proof of this. From a global standpoint, this union could prove to be incredible. Essentially you the signatories would become Lords of an Empire of size and power beyond conventional reckoning."

Lord Alkanphel
High Warlord of Lord Melkor's Imperium, First Counselor to Melkor Himself
http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/alkanphel1.jpg

imported_Kalessin

07-01-2004, 12:17

Vegana

07-01-2004, 13:33

"We must remember that we are all at war here. The elves and their allies are a real and current danger to all we stand for. This is not a time for indecision, or for bureaucracy and oversized councils filled with squabbling. We need to be able to make decisions swiftly, and act even more swiftly, if we are ever to crush the pointy-eared menace!"

Slobodan nodded as he listened. He wondered where Arda got this information from? The Reich was four or five times bigger than Arda and clearly had the bigger army. But then again, the big lazy tiger could indeed be seen as less dangerous than the rabid pitbull. Slobodan looked around to see what the GDODAD member thought about this plan as he said:

"Aye, the elves are clearly the most apparent threat here. Growing more ignorant for each day, even given that they had suffered some defeats from our Propaganda Organ. Maybe it IS time for more Elven blood to flow?

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The Silver Turtle

07-01-2004, 18:41

Obviously pleased at being suggested as a leader, The Great Ineffable Bob joined the conversation.
"Firstly, I hope you were not referring to The GDODAD as taking votes to make decisions. The opinions of senior members count of course, but there is never a tally of votes. But that is a minor matter. As for this talk of alliance strengths, we could surely debate upon this for days upon end. However, I will admit that the current incarnation of The GDODAD does appear to currently be the weakest of these three alliances, having suffered major losses of both members and strength in an effort to shake off weaker nations. However, joining this with the point of spilling the blood of the elves, I will say what you all must be thinking. Arda could wage a war upon the elven menace, do well, but be eventually beaten back. The Reich could do the same. So could The GDODAD. However, together, the combined military might of three of some of the greatest alliances to shake the NS world with fear will be awe inspiring. Elven blood would flow until the seas themselves were...whatever colour elven blood is. Together, we could complete the goals of all our alliances. If Arda insists upon a council balanced in it's favour, then we cannot disagree since I admit we are weaker. However, I am pleased that the numbers chosen will not allow Arda to entirely dominate the council. So far, then, I am happy with the way things are going, and I hope we can continue without increasing hostilities."
As he sat back down, he whispered to the other GDODAD delegates,
"If they insist upon more members we can hardly disagree, but as I said they won't be able to dominate at least. I'll try and consult with you on most decisions of course."
Settling back, he listened as the next delegate began to speak...

Melkor Unchained

07-01-2004, 19:54

Count Gorhilsje rose gracefully, and his armour, the many-hued glow of which had so far been fairly muted, burst into life, showering the room with ever-changing light, as he gleamed like a star in the midst of his black-robed retainers. His voice, although it was both quiet and controlled, cut through the murmurs of the various delegates like a knife, and reached the furthest corners of the hall.

"The Empire feels that although Arda is by far the most powerful alliance of the three represented here, it would most certainly be discourteous in the extreme not to give a fair say to each in any decisions concerning joint-action. Equally, with too large a council comes indecision and weakness, which is of course the very reason why we all favour dictatorship over democracy. As such, my Emperor suggests that an inner council consisting of only four leaders be formed, and that the four leaders in question be President Matthew Iesus of Iesus Christi, The Great Ineffable Bob of The Silver Turtle, Lord Melkor, and my own master, the Emperor of Kalessin. Any major decisions concerning alliance affairs would then require a 3-1 majority within this inner council. Thus, both the Reich and GDODAD retain a voice, while Arda's current supremacy would also be reflected."

He smiled genially at Alkanphel;

Melkor an angel? What an amusing idea! Who came up with that one?

Before sweeping the entire hall with his piercing gaze;

"We must remember that we are all at war here. The elves and their allies are a real and current danger to all we stand for. This is not a time for indecision, or for bureaucracy and oversized councils filled with squabbling. We need to be able to make decisions swiftly, and act even more swiftly, if we are ever to crush the pointy-eared menace!"

Alkanphel nodded. "Precisely. I couldn't have said it better myself," he stated, witha glance to TGI Bob. "And no, I wasnt referring to the GDODAD directly, but there are a number of smaller autocratic alliances that do in fact practice what I've chided them for. We must become an example to these poor, ineffectual leaders, striving for their piece of the pie. Perhaps we should take it a step farther and use this alliance as a beacon for the world to see, and learn from its power. We mustnt let personal feelings of pride mar our work. We must not let the lies of the Elves to seep in and supplant us. We must not be weak. We must also realise that our strength is not in numbers, but the quality of our members," he concludes, ignoring the leaders' wildly inaccurate surmisals of an Arda/Elven war.

Lord Alkanphel
High Warlord of Lord Melkor's Imperium, First Counselor to Melkor Himself
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Diminix

07-01-2004, 21:10

Emperor Yayo sat quiet in a seat next to his foreign minister. He watched the high leaders of The Reich, Arda and the GDODAD discuss the issues of the new alliance. He shook his head up and down as he listened in. He couldn't help but drift off thinking about the dominon and it's own troubles, wondering why he had even come. His eyes lit up as a thought passed through his head. Then he stood up.

"May I interfere for just a second? You know I was just listening to Lord Alkanphels input of the quality of our members and I just regret it that I am the only leader out of the entire Yayo Dominion who is present at this meeting. High emperor Shox and President Sean whose empires are both within the Yayo Dominion decided it wasn't important and since I am the "leader" of the entire dominion, I should only be present. It is only now I am realizing that there should not be one dominate member of this alliance. If this should happen it will crumble and our enemies will triumph over it.

Of course it probally won't effect the indiviual nations in the alliance but isn't it our unity which will bring an end to evil? Personally I think there should be departments to this alliance. Departments which do NOT rely on eachother and should not have to report to the so called "high council" for authorization on something. For instance there could be the main council with the main leaders of our alliances. Then a second highest council, but that is for leadership only. It brings us our decisions on whether to go to war or not and so on. A war department with only the mightiest of military generals and leaders from all nations in the alliance. If the best of the best are in the council only, then I believe their decision would be wise enough to trust. Or we could take on a similiar approach. Same departments and such with leaders from the strongest nations in the entire alliance. The war department would consist of the best military leaders in the entire alliance. Combining our strenght in a way in which we could all agree on is better, is it not?

He finished as he sat down and took a drink.

Melkor Unchained

07-01-2004, 21:25

Alkanphel furrowed his brow. "Interesting thought, though I think you misunderstand our proposition. Perhaps I do not understand fully what it is you're saying, but I must disagree slightly with your surmisal that '...there should not be one dominate member of this alliance. If this should happen it will crumble and our enemies will triumph over it.'

His jaw tightened as he stared at the Emperor. "Were this ture, the enemy would have by now prevailed over Arda."

Lord Alkanphel
High Warlord of Lord Melkor's Imperium, First Counselor to Melkor Himself
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The Silver Turtle

07-01-2004, 23:03

"Lord Alkanphel, I agree entirely about the strength of an alliance being in the quality of its members. Even though The GDODAD is, by itts old standards, tiny, our remaining members are larger than any before, making us almost as powerful as we were formerly.
I also share your view about these so-called "depatments" as proposed the Diminixian delegate. Responsibility spread thinly will cause us to fall apart at the seams, especially if there is no central governing body. If different departments wish to go in separate directions, and there is nothing to regulate them, what will happen? Chaos, I say. However, I do think that having departments and a central council will be too large, therefore I believe it should be kept small. But I think I understand one of your fears. If a random homeless person was picked up off the street of one of my puppet nations, and goven sole charge of that country for a month, the country would probably collapse. The economy might be ruined, government spending may run out of control, who knows what might happen. But that it what happens when the wrong dictator has power. However, look at what happens when the right dictator has power. Almost every nation, if not ALL nations assembled here are dictatorships. Represented here are some of the most powerful nations in the world, dictatorships, with the right dictator! A strong dictatorship government, that keep the reigns, steers the nation in the right direction and doesn't have to contend with all the constant debating, objections, and downright defeat of motions that democracies have.
And lastly, to Emperor Yayo, I hope you did not see bringing the fall of Evil as a good thing?"
OOC: Have more points to make, but also have school tomorrow, along with exams next week and revision to do tonight. Consequently I'm going offline at the mo.

Diminix

07-01-2004, 23:39

[lol Yeah da last post of mine was pretty dumb. I was in a rush and trying to squeeze a good post in. lol just remember the emperor is a bit coked up at the moment lol]

Gulf paradise

07-01-2004, 23:44

Suddenly he heard the sound of glass breaking at the floor, in less than a second he had located the source of the sound, it was one of John newest employees!

The very nervous young man looked right back at him, right in the eyes, and he immediately knew that he hade blown his cover! He knew what the price would be when he got back to TGIC headquarters, he trembled in fear…

John turned around to his closest man and whispered in his ear: -Take him to my office when we get back.
- Will do sir.

John thought about what happened in anger and he knew that TGIC presence was now official, he had to talk to Bob in private.

Gulf paradise

07-01-2004, 23:45

Gulf paradise

07-01-2004, 23:46

Automagfreek

08-01-2004, 01:59

Rayne had listened listened to the discussions carefully, then decided to interject slightly. I agree with some of the points being made, except the idea of Arda having more representatives should a council be formed. I think it neccessary to only have 1 delegate per alliance, that way if votes were to be made, there would never be a tie, as would be the case with 4 delegates. I think this would eliminate alot of B.S and sour feelings should The Reich and GDODAD agree on a certain issue, and Arda dosen't. Other than that, I think what we all have said so far has been pretty productive. I still hold fast to my words, and Automagfreek feels that there should only be 1 delegate per alliance, those being Lord Melkor (and possibly the leader from Kalessin (?) in Melkor's absence), Mathew Iesus (and possibly the leader from Vegana (?) in Iesus's absence, and TGI Bob (and possibly the leader from Automagfreek (?) or Barbarosea (?) in Bob's absence).

I think this needs to be decided soon. With a 2 out of 3 majority on every issue, there can be little fuel for an argument. Again, I've been stressing that although we all have our opinions of who's more powerful, we should put those feelings aside so that our objectives are completed. You know, sacrifice abit of pride for the greater good?

Rayne took in a breath and looked around for reactions.

Presgreif

08-01-2004, 03:31

Sarah breifly touched Rayne's hand, smiled at her affectionatly, and rose to speak.

"It is a hard topic, this, and indeed I'm sure all present were fully aware of the delecacy of the situation before they chose to take part in these talks. The idea is....awe inspiring, GDODAD, The Reich, and Arda, united, acting as one entity. We would be unstoppable, and it is no exaggeration. The galaxy would be at our mercy. It is this vision that has brought us all here, and we all hope beyond hope for the successful conclusion of these negotiations. However, I would like to draw your attention to all the nations who chose not to send any sort of representative to this meeting. Is this a silent protest? Is it apathy? Is it disbelief? In our enthusiasm we have lost sight of the fact that there are those in each of our organizations who are openly or secretly opposed to this union, and will fight it should it come to pass, or will simply act insabordinatly to whatever council will be formed to lead our new union. We must be wary that the eventual unity of our organizations does not lead to the disunity of our seperate parts.
A proposition esteemed representatives: this union of ours should not be an all out merger of our three organizations. Each faction will remain a seperate entity. However, a fourth organization would be formed, one which would encompass the leaders and active members of each faction, and would preside over the three factions as a united fourth body. The power we would have united should not be offered to all and any. We all are plagued by member nations who act as loose cannons, or simply remain dorment, taking no interest in the dealings of an organization these swore fealty to. Should such nations reap the benefit of our hard work? I think not. The representative of Melkor said it well when he said that not the number of members a given faction has is important, but the quality of these members. Let us not speak of a union of our organizations, but of that which is truly close to our hearts, a union of those who are here present today. This does make the subject much easier, as I'm sure there is a certain understanding between us which has the knack of smoothing over our differences. Let us work here together today to create a situation and structure that will be most benefitial to us, for it is we who are prepared to make this thing work, at all costs, and it is we who shall contribute to this union. Speak not of the scores of nations under our sway, but of those present here today, the true leaders of the flock. In true dictatorial fashion, let us disregard the absent, for they are the weak, or unprepared, and should be treated as what they truly are; underlings of no consequence."

Sarah sat down and awaited the input of those present, unsure what impact, if any, her somewhat confused speach would have on the others. She hoped to get at what she felt was the heart of the matter, and in her own mind had done so. But the cultural, political, and language barriers made their reactions unpredictable. Her brow forrowed.

Melkor Unchained

08-01-2004, 03:44

Alkanphel nodded, and his eyes slid to Sarah. "Exactly my thoughts. Those who do not approve would have spoken up by now. Since they haven't, their counsels are forefit." Alkanphel then turned his attention to Rayne. "Your idea, I'm afraid, is preposterous. I'm not sure exactly how you think that could possibly work. It's exactly the kind of hypocracy I spoke out against not but three minutes ago. The minute we degenerate into delegation and vote-taking is the minute our enemy wins. We must unite under the strong, as our people have. I do however nominally concur with Sarah here, regarding the formation of a fourth, governing body."

Lord Alkanphel
High Warlord of Lord Melkor's Imperium, First Counselor to Melkor Himself
http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/alkanphel1.jpg

Automagfreek

08-01-2004, 04:04

Rayne sighed heavily, then retorted. What worries me Lord Alkanphel is one entity rising above the others. I know it will happen eventually, and I'm telling you now that it cannot happen. We MUST not allow Arda or any other faction to dictate the actions of the others. That is why I propose a new alliance altogether, complete with it's own supreme ruler. Face it, the only way to successfully lead an alliance is to either have a council that agrees/disagrees on things, or a dictator. We've found here in GDODAD that dictators are the best for the job.

I believe that a whole new alliance should be created and our 3 respective alliances should simply be subdivisions run by their own leader/s. This would reduce tension between each body, and all 3 units will be as 1 under a leader of our choosing. Yes, I say our, because we need to appoint a strong leader, or a succession of leaders. We could place 1 leader in power, then have 2 other leaders selected, and simply rotate every few years. And each leader would be from the 3 subdivisons, that way every alliance has it's day. I'm telling you this because throughout history, Automagfreek has been probably the most successful nation when it comes to alliances. Our nation has overseen the WMNK Coalition, The Chromestar Alliance, and we were also the driving force behind the recent incarnation of GDODAD. You must understand that we have great experience in these matters, and we speak from that experience.

I say the best way is to form a new entity while keeping the 3 as internal subdivisons. There will be 1 absolute leader, and every so often the leader makes way for one of the other 2. This way, each strength that the 3 subdivisons possess will help further the alliance. The Reich with it's insight and wisdom, Arda with it's muscle, and GDODAD with it's ability to entice the masses. You must hear me on this.

Rayne exhaled and glanced down, hoping that she would be taken seriously.

Diminix

08-01-2004, 04:13

While the meetings were proceding the emperor took out a small bag and emptied the substance onto the table. It wasn't that much but it was good enough. With his hand he formed it into a line, leaned down and snorted up the entire line. He still had a little cocaine on his nose. Chingy tried to tell him this but the emperor wasn't paying attention to him. He stepped back sniffing up trying to get the remnants of it up. Then he turned back around to the other leaders.

"You know, I got an idea concerning the people who are speaking up now and the people that aren't. I think the people who actually give suggestions and form the alliance. Such as myself, Lord Rayne, TGI Bob. All of us get a little say in the alliance while the other, who should not be cut out, but get a bit of a lower position?"

Melkor Unchained

08-01-2004, 04:35

Alkanphel cleared his throat once Rayne was finished. "Indeed, you've proven to be quite exemplary as a nation, haven't you? One's strength in minding alliances is not a factor of how many different pacts you've been a part of, but how strong they get. The Imperium has ever been an Ardan and an Ardan only." He snorted contemptuously. "Bouncing from alliance to alliance is not prodcutive, and it doesn't consolidate your strength in the long run. The Imperium is proof of that. Arda has gone nowhere but forward under our lead. Why, then can you not see that this would be your destiny as well? This system--this abomination of 'rotations' and 'subdivisions' only serves to weaken us."

His eyes shot to the Diminix as he stirred, his eyes flashing in surprise and rage. "What's this?!" he asked, seething. "What do you think you're doing?!" he roared, as the guards went tense. Several reached for their weapons, but Alkanphel rose a hand, awaitng a response. The guards awaited his command.

Lord Alkanphel
High Warlord of Lord Melkor's Imperium, First Counselor to Melkor Himself
http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/alkanphel1.jpg

Presgreif

08-01-2004, 04:37

Sarah looked at the Emperor of Diminix with scorn, perhaps discust. She opened her mouth to speak, then thought the better of it, and remained a while in silence. Reluctantly, she squeezed Rayne's hand again, smiled to Bob, and stood to speak again.

"We of Presgreif are, and always have been loyal members of GDODAD. Our alliance is dear to us, and we are hard pressed to do anything which would diminish its power or prestige. But this is one of those situations where you, excuse me for the saying, look beyond your own nose. We agree with the representative of Melkor; if this is to succeed, it will only succeed with a strong, supreme ruler. Though we find Rayne's proposition of leadership rotation intriguing, I admit that in my personal opinion it would weaken us in the long run. We need a leader, one whom we all respect, and who's judgement we all trust. And though it is a great leap of faith for me, I must say that I know of only one such individual, and he is Lord Melkor. Presgreif would march under Melkor's banner, and I am sure that most of you here agree. A strong leader my friends, that is what we need to accomplish that which we intend to accomplish. It is truly a leap of faith for many of us to accept this idea, but I say to you now, it is the only way for any union between us to function. You all know it is the only way. That is all"

Sarah sat back down, turning red. She felt somehow that she had compromised her own alliance. But she knew that someone would have to make that extra step to make this work. She waited in great anticipation for the reaction of the others.

Automagfreek

08-01-2004, 04:48

You do not understand about the system of rotations, that is how our convent of vam..... Rayne paused, and bit her lip slightly. She took in an uneasy breath, then continued. Regardless of your conclusion that the number of alliances we've formed means that we lack follow through, it means that we've had more learning experiences. Through the creation of each alliance, we've worked the bugs out and know what to do and what not to. I am proud of my heritage, and I would see all of us move forward as a new unit under our own banner than move forward under Arda's. That is NOT why we've come here, because if that were, we would just join Arda.

Rayne's phone went off in the middle of her thought, and she reached into her pocket and answered it. [i]Hello?....Yes....what the fuck?....How did they get past?.....Oh God, not him again.....I'll be right there.

Rayne hung up her phone, and for the first time she spoke with fear. I'm afraid something has come up....something internal. I'm sorry I must be leaving, but I hope to return soon. With that, Rayne grabbed her files, and at jogging pace, exited the room. She jumped into the ride outside and left hurridly for the airport. After a short drive, she boarded her already waiting plane and lifted off with great haste for Automagfreek.

Diminix

08-01-2004, 05:03

Two of the emperors bodyguards stood tense with their hands frozen in the air, as a sign of surrender. The emperor looked back at them with disgust and then turned to look at Lord Alkanphel's bodyguards, then turned back to his own guards.

"What the f*ck is wrong with you guys? I tell you man, you are f*cking pussies man. You are supposed to be my bodyguards and you f*cking surrender?"

He looked at lord Alkanphel.

"I'm sorry about that. Guess I was a little out of line."

He said pointing to the few cocaine residue on the table while with his left hand throwing a little into his mouth. He wiped off his nose, wiped his mouth, shook his head and sat back down.

"Can I get some scotch?"

Melkor Unchained

08-01-2004, 05:18

Alkanphel nodded to his right, and lowered his hand. The guards stood again at ease, and the one he nodded at opened a door. Out strode a half dozen maids, each carrying trays laden with various foodstuffs or refreshments. They stood evenly apart against the wall of the great circular room. One strode across to the Yayo Emperor as Alkanphel spoke. "Refreshments, sir, are something we permit in these halls. Cocaine, however is not. Furthermore, your language is unbefitting of a world leader. In the event of a merger of our alliances, it would serve your interests to not earn the scorn of your superiors. First appearances are important, Emperor. One such as yourself must surely understand this." The maid smiled and poured the man a glass of scotch, as requested. With a small bow, she hurried back to her post.

Lord Alkanphel
High Warlord of Lord Melkor's Imperium, First Counselor to Melkor Himself
http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/alkanphel1.jpg

Diminix

08-01-2004, 05:46

The emperor looked at Lord Alkanphel with the cup of scotch in his hand. He took a sip and shrugged at him.

"Yeah, I guess. I'm just pissed at these retarded SS men that are supposed to be my security. These guys - they're gone. I tell you man."

He went to take a sip of scotch again but an assistant leaned down to Chingy, the Diminix foreign minister and whispered something in his ear. Chingy leaned over to the emperor and told him something. Then the emperor leaned back and looked at the ceiling. He looked straight back at Lord Alkanphel with a pissed off look on his face.

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/54/039_20812.jpg

"Lord Alkanphel, I deeply regret this but I must go. There is a national emergency in Diminix and my presence is required. But my foreign minister will stay to continue the discussions on the future alliance. I am again sorry that I must leave."

He stood up and began to walk out. One of his guards went to follow him but he snuffed the guard and told him to get back. The emperor threw his jacket over his shoulder and began to walk back to his plane. Back inside, Chingy looked around nervously. Never had he been in charge of Diminix relations in such a big operation. He smiled and finished the rest of scotch that was in the emperors cup. Then he turned to lord Alkanphel and smiled.

"I apologize for the emperors actions. As you all know early before this meeting his wife left him. The Yayo Dominion is still going through troubles with foreign nations, security breaches and it's own provinces. Political enemies begin to rise all over the place, but quickly are brought down. My lord, I speak for the entire Yayo Dominion when I say that we all hope to have a respectible position in this. Please forgive my superior."

Foreign Relations Minister
http://www.chingy.com/images/galleryImg3.jpg

((OOC: Hey! No one likes my Scarface modeled character? Btw there is a real situation in Diminix. lol I am going to war but it's a closed rp. One on one, did it on purpose.))

Vegana

08-01-2004, 12:08

Slobodan face palmed and thought of having Erik kill this Yayo idiot at a sitting table. He knew his mandate was great but was it great enough to slay one The Reich members leader? Slobodan decided the insult to his allies had been to great and that this fool had to go. He gave a sign to Erik, but as Erik slowly started to advance the yayo fool rose up, blabbered something in his barbaric language and hurriedly left the meeting. Saved by the bell Slobodan thought.

"I am most sorry about this little incident, but as I am sure you are aware of that every court needs its fool..." Slobodan smiled his gentle old mans smile "I can assure you he wont disturb us again. I believe you have pointed out some very important factors. In the Reich we have taken care of the Freerider problem you so well pointed out Sarah. When entering our region each nation is forced to donate 25 % of its army to regional control, thus giving us the most formidable war machine in the world. However!" Slobodan rose his finger "I agree with Alkanphel that a large force is nothing without a strong leader. I am sure we all can agree that Lord Melkor is the most aggressive leader at the moment. Maybe we can have another solution than making a dictatorship within dictatorships. I believe that we could create a holy Trium, with lord Melkor as chairman, and the power to decide in a tied vote. This will give him more power, since in some cases a part may put down their vote or abstain from voting. I do not believe we should let the chairman position switch places every months since that would weaken our alliance."

James Adams

08-01-2004, 12:33

eh?

i thought the GDODAD was dead?!?!

Russian Forces

08-01-2004, 13:01

Russian Forces see's terrible results coming out of this event. Not good for everyone.

Gulf paradise

08-01-2004, 14:18

John stood up and cleared his troth,

well it is nice to see so many nations represented here and that it is such a productive meeting, many ideas and so on.
Now to why I am here.
You can all refer to me as “John Doe”, my real name isn’t important, I am the supreme ruler of Gulf Paradise and the head of TGIC, The GDODAD Information Centre, a veteran in The CoE and The GDODAD, I have been in CoE since the start and in all three GDODAD alliances, I handle all information sent in to me by my operatives in different regions of the world.
Enough about me.
I think that this alliance is a great idea, the world will tremble under our feet once again if you all figure out you’re differences.
This is my question to you, the leaders of these great regions:

An alliance is indeed really nice, but, it can’t work without the intelligence agencies so I wonder if the intel leaders of Arga and Reich could contact me to see if we could somehow join our powers and change information with each other?
This is a huge step I know, much of the power in a region lies in its intelligence work, they figure out where the next attack can come from, what regions/nations to hit, political activists, traitors and so on.
The GDODAD has a well functioning intel agency and has its nose in many regions, I am prepared to work together with both Arda and Reich intel agencies.

John sat down again and thought about his words.

I wonder if they are prepared to take the next step…

Danneland

08-01-2004, 15:09

Some day before, in Danneland HQ

Daniel looked over the lates intell, they had mutch to catch up. And most important, to find out what had happend.
"and where is Veers?!" he screamed out and throwed the papers all over the room.
He calmed himselfe down, it had been frustrating to find out that GDODAD had weaken. All the time and effort he had put in it, had gone to a waste.
He looked down on the table and noticed a paper, about some meeting between Arda, The Reich and GDODAD.
"Im going, Bob is there, and so seem the remains of GDODAD.. it will be a suprice for everyone"

Some hours later a black chopper left Danneland airspace towards Melkor Unchained.

"This is black one calling Melkor Unchained air control. Daniel, leader of Danneland has come to atend the.. um.. well, meeting. asking permission to land"

Daniel sat there, in his private hellicopter, looking out on the landscape below him. So very mutch confused, he shook his head. better than to be dead
The intell report had stated something about discussing an alliance, and from what he had understood it was nessesary at the moment. GDODAD was weak. The thought of that Bob might not do such a good job afterall struck his mind. If he had lived, if he had been there GDODAD would never have gone this low. he! was a strong leader. Daniel, ruler of Danneland. GDODAD would be something to reccon with, but now.. well, it scared him. But there were alliances stronger than them.

He had left when the GDODAD was what the world feared, nothing was even close to be as strong as them. And when he comes back.. it all just seemed like GDODAD fell when Danneland dissapeard.

Daniel leaned his head and observed the pilot. "are we there yet?"
"twenty minutes sir, and still waiting confirmation from Melkor Unchained"
Daniel nodded, it would be hard for them to believe it, that Danneland was back.. But for him, it was just natural. For him, the world had changed, he had just been there, but like as if it had been in another dimention.
He shook his head and cleared his thoughts, useless thoughts. Bob was the leader and would allways be, but he feared that if GDODAD went into this alliance, it would be ruled by a councill or something like that. And GDODAD wasnt a councill, it was a dictatorship. Never would he let some councill rule over him, some democratic crap. No, if there were to be an alliance, it better be ruled by one and not many. A strong leader.

(OOC: Hope its okay that I come in now)

Melkor Unchained

08-01-2004, 15:55

Alkanphel's eyes slid to Slobodon and he grinned, perceiving the man's thought. Alkanphel, it seemed, was in agreement as to the desidred fate of the representatives from Diminix. It was both a releif and dismay that the man had gone--still it puzzled him that a black man should be a Foreign Minister to a Reich state. Perhaps his allies were starting to forget their racial prejudices? It didn't matter, at any rate. He nodded as Slobodon finished.

"I seem to hear little disagreement, and I'm glad for it. Now, though, we must move ahead and take the next step towards forming this glorious alliance. What, then should it be called?"

***
Elsewhere, clearance was given for the Danneland rep to land in Ali'Staan--a fighter squadron sent to escort much like last time, complete with the defense grid warning.

[ooc: too tired for long post. must work]

Lord Alkanphel
High Warlord of Lord Melkor's Imperium, First Counselor to Melkor Himself
http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/alkanphel1.jpg

The Silver Turtle

08-01-2004, 19:42

Bob Minor's pocket began beeping. Checking it, he discovered a message concerning an old ally. TGI Bob turned round to tell his minion to shut up. Trembling, Bob Minor held the pager out, saying "Sir, I think you'd better take a look at this..." Snatching the thing, TGI Bob looked it over. Old nation reappeared, uhu, old ally, Danneland, leader's whereabouts unknown by Ineffable Intelligence, possibly on way as a copter matching the description of the one carrying the Danneland President had been detected by Whangian radar entering Melkorian airspace. Danneland, there was a name he hadn't heard in a while. And possibly on his way? He'd have to wait and see about that. The intelligence agency had been far surpassed by The TGIC recently so they really needed to redeem themselves. This could be interesting he thought.
Rising, he voiced his opinions upon what had been said.
"I disagree with Rayne's idea of a rotating leadership. As has been said, it would weaken us in the long term. Sarah's idea of a fourth alliance is intriguing, and although I have not taken time to consider it fully, I am in favour of it. But as Lord Alkphanel has also said, we must now be moving forward, rather than forever debating the pros and cons of every idea. We have already wasted far too much time. As for a name, I have never been very good at them myself. I was the one who came up with the GDODAD, or Global Dominion Of Dictators Against Democracy. As you can see, it is not very good. Heck, my name's The Great Ineffable Bob! But I suggest that we keep it simple. One word, maybe two. Something that both describes the intents of this alliance, while retaining an air of both mystery and power. After the name has been chosen, the smaller details can be worked out, such as the intelligence agency as John Doe has suggested."
He sat back down, sending Bob Minor off to get him a Baileys and wishing that Lord Christopher Scott was here.

08-01-2004, 20:59

and with that the lord burst in late.

"Sorry for being late, there was some business i had to attend to, important matters of state."

What was really delaying Christopher was a petite cocktail waitress. Although seemingly unimportant, the lord felt it very important.

"Now you will have to excuse me, I will have to get updated on to what has been happening and discussed in my absence."

Some were visibly upset at the fact that Christopher was late, and they viewed this as distrespectful. However what has been done has been done.

(ooc: goddamn nationstates servers are crap, i have not been able to log onto the forums for so long!)

Roseway

08-01-2004, 21:01

((OOC: Hi, some of you may know me. I'm slowly creating a glorious entrance to the NS universe, and I think it would be cool if all three of these mondo-evil alliances could RP with me. Basically, I've got a huge fleet entering this universe from the Empire [my imagination] that has been split up into a lot of small forces. I could unite a bunch at the Sol system easy.
Do you people want to accept me into your roleplay? I could either ally with you [the Empire on the side of power] or attack you [the Empire on the side of Good].))

Melkor Unchained

08-01-2004, 22:24

Alkanphel shrugged. "I myself have never been responsible for naming alliances, and as such, mine is named after a geographic region at any rate. It might seem a bit arrogant to suggest the 'Pan-Ardan Front,' but it's all I can come up with at the moment. I agree with the notion that the name should instill some sort of fear and respect, but we shouldn't make it too obvious or too..." he pauses, searching for the right word. "ostentatious," he finished, with a nod.

Lord Alkanphel
High Warlord of Lord Melkor's Imperium, First Counselor to Melkor Himself
http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/alkanphel1.jpg

Barbarosea

09-01-2004, 00:08

As HTL was sitting back and reasoning with himself, he finally got up to speak. (OOC: Goddamn NS server)

"Now, I have been listening and such, but haven't said anything. Now is my time to speak. I agree that we need a strong leader that will not change, barring the step-down of said person. Although, I think a council needs to be put to get her, of all of GDODAD, Arda, and Reich's leading nations. It could be structered as the GDODAD leadership is. Which is... as his guards handed every leader a print out.

[code:1:5fae6ce4a9]
LEADER (Melkor, possibably)

High Council (TST, Iesus)

Intelligence (GP, Reich rep., Arda rep.)

Military (NOD/Barbarosea, Reich rep., Arda rep.)

Interior (Membership control) (Me/AMF, Reich rep., Arda rep.)

Broadcast (Propaganda) (LCS, Reich rep., Arda rep.)
[/code:1:5fae6ce4a9]

This "council" would not vote or anything of the sort, but advise Melkor on what to do. They would not need everyone's Imput or anything, but just there to promote the leadership aspect of this allience. Also, I don't think that 1 allience is a good idea, because you then must agree with the GDODAD, Arda, and Reich ideas if you want to join. But they must make a forth allience, as Sarah mentioned. If this happens, then we will all be stronger. As for the name, read on that printout for some of my ideas...

[code:1:5fae6ce4a9]
Evil Axis
The Evil
Evil United
Power of Evil
[/code:1:5fae6ce4a9]

With that, he sat down, plotting his next move.

Roseway

09-01-2004, 01:32

I like Evil United for its acronym. Tell people they're being attacked by the EU, they'll think "Oh, gay Frenchies? BRING IT ON!" and feel a little confident before being whipped. Of course, the Axis is always good, but just anything that's not superlong... maybe, AOEE? Alliance of Evil Empires? AOIS? Alliance of Imperialist Scum?

Barbarosea

09-01-2004, 01:34

Automagfreek

09-01-2004, 01:35

OOC: USE THE DAMN OOC THREAD FOR THIS STUFF! And RF, THIS IS A SECRET MEETING, YOU DO NOT KNOW ABOUT IT! :roll:

How many times must I repeat myself?

imported_Kalessin

09-01-2004, 01:36

Count Gorhilsje chuckled softly:

"Despite the obvious tactical advantages of such a system, a single leader is, I feel, clearly impractical. All of the leaders represented here are proud beings, and rightly so, for many of them have been strong, sole leaders for their nations for many years. Indeed, my own Emperor would most certainly object to having anyone put over him in any way. On the other hand, as I have already pointed out, a large council would be unwieldy, slow to act, and therefore, weak. Therefore, the Empire suggests that a ruling Triumvirate be formed, consisting of the Emperor of Kalessin, representing Arda, The Ineffable Bob, representing GDODAD, and President Iesus, representing the Reich. In addition, we should have not a chairman, but a Speaker, whose seat could be filled by Lord Melkor. Each of these four leaders should have a single vote in all major matters, with the Speaker having the casting vote in the case of a tie, as well as the responsibility of announcing the decision, and acting as the figurehead for our greater alliance. Naturally, the more junior nations of the alliance can add their input through their alliance representative.

The Empire feels that to dilute the power into smaller sub-councils, as Barbarosea has suggested, could only serve to weaken us, by miring our alliance in meaningless bureaucracy. Membership of course, since we will be made up of smaller alliances, can be decided by the individual alliance leaders. Broadcast and propaganda should be handled under the direct supervision of the Speaker, while all members should be willing to pool intelligence without the need for a specialised council. As for a name, I would suggest that we draw upon this world of your's ancient languages, and utilise that spoken by the greatest Empire in history in order to name what shall be an Empire greater still. Sceleratus Mundorum. That might prove a fitting title. In the common tongue, it translates as 'The Evil of all the Universes'."

Iesus Christi

09-01-2004, 01:57

Count Gorhilsje is wise, blessed be him. Iesus supports total allaince and unity within this alliance, for only TOEGTHER can we defeat the metahuman scum!
The Elf blood must flow! and Iesus will follow any who takes up the cross! Of course we will only follow if a suitable system is created. So far the Kallesin or Veganian has the best strengths...we create a council of war/a holy trium, lead by the angel Melkor.

Heil melkor! heil Victory!

General Rand slips a note down to his Vegana comrade
R.A.G has its place. Heil the RAG

Danneland

09-01-2004, 10:38

The doors opend in a gentle pace and a single man walked into the room where the meeting was held.
The light struck his blonde hair, crystal blue eyes. One could never suspect him to be a ruthless dictator, it was Daniel.

He sat down in one of the empty chairs and cleared his throat.
"I know, you are supriced to see me, apperantly the world has gone without us. But fortunally, we could catch you"
Daniel smiled.. "Few of you know me, few of you have seen me.. if any. Though, you probably know who I am. How I came back with my nation.. that I can discuss another time."
He picked up a pen out of his pocket and a notebock.
"I havent been here all the time, so I dont even know half of it. But as I have understood, this is a discussion about an alliance between three factions."
His eyes looked at Bob "and I also have understood that GDODAD is the weaker alliance of it. Though, you didnt count me in. So that makes it a little stronger. But, please, go on with your discussion and I will probably make out what all of you have discussed."

Daniel could notice the silence when he was finished
"and yes, Danneland is back.."

Vegana

09-01-2004, 11:03

Slobodan chuckled gently and looked Count Gorhilsje in the eyes. "An excellent suggestion, but I'm afraid it doesn't differ any from the earlier suggestion with four voters and a majority of three needed." Slobodan looked at all the others in the room. "Let's cut to the chase. The Reich will support a Trium, trium means three, with an Arda representant who can decide on a tie. If this Arda representant will be called Speaker or Chairman I leave that to your decision. Furthermore, as having some experience in treaties like this and since words means very little but action means more. I would like to propose that the alliance will be put to the test before we set a hard foundation, a proof-of-concept if you please. Thus proving to ourselves and the world that this is a solid and good foundation to build a valid alliance on."

Slobodan looked at the note being sent to him by General Rand. RAG? The proud Arda alliance would never allow Reich being before Arda in an Acronym. He sent a note to general Rand:
Maybe Arda Sees Treaties as Yesterdays news. RAG might be one solution

09-01-2004, 18:20

The High Lord than spoke.

"First, about the name. A name should be unique, and also sum up the demeaner of the alliance. Now many in the world choose to name their alliance using anograms. Countless examples include two of the alliances present, as well as others. It is my opinion, however, that we should try to stay away from an anogram. For a name of our alliance, I say we look to the past for a name. Im sure no one would mind if we borrow a name from the past. If someone else has done a good job already, why try and surpass them? We could call ourselves the Triple Entente, or the Triumvirate from the Roman Empire. Or we could dispel both of those and call ourselves a word which many have been saying, The Trium. Clearly since this will be an alliance of 3, clearly our name should reflect that.

Now moving on to our organization. We should all be ashamed of proposing a vote. A VOTE! This is ridiculous. All members of the GDODAD have long recognized the flaw in any democratic system. There needs to be one person who is dominant, or chaos will ensue. Now about this council, we still could have it. Who says a council needs to vote? A council could exist, but not to make decisions, but to advise, as so stated by HTL. The council may have a representative from each alliance, which would advise the leader or speaker or whatever the supreme head becomes. Plus if there does happen to be given any voting power to the council, the head must be given veto powers.

Also this leadership structuring proposed by HTL again is not a bad idea. Some would think it creates an unecesary bueracracy. However in the case of the GDODAD it has made management easier, and alleviated the tasks of our supreme head, TGI Bob. Of course, he can intervene at anytime he wants. But most of the time he does not, for he has more important matters to attend to. This structure allows some of the menial tasks to be taken care of, and freeing up more time for the leaders to attend to more pressing matters. This could do the same, as in this case the alliance would be larger, and the tasks greater.

As for the intriguing idea set forth by my colleage before me about actions speaking louder than words, I agree. It is my opinion too that the spilling of the blood of our enemies would speak volumes about our intentions and strength.

I would also like to take this opportunity to express my thanks to all of you who are in attendance. Every day we hear of an elven alliance either growing weaker or becoming defunct. Although not elven, the EOTED has isolated ourself. What I am trying to say, is that everyday our enemies grow weaker, and this marks a great oportunity for us all to grow stronger. I thank all of you for seriously considering this matter."

The High Lord than sat down.

imported_Kalessin

09-01-2004, 23:52

Automagfreek

10-01-2004, 00:57

The sounds of a gav-limo stopping outside could be heard, followed by the clanking sounds of footsteps. There was a slight pause, then the doors came open. A tall, foreboding figure stood in the doorway and glanced slowly from left to right. The figure then took a step forward and revealed his identity...it was Damien Dreadfire himself. His plane had landed a hour or so, and he came straight to the talks to take Rayne's place, for Rayne would not be attending anything ever again. The warlord was dressed in ceremonial garb from head to toe, from his cape of crimson, to his steel breastplate and leg armor. He glanced over the silent faces of those present and ran his tongue over his teeth slowly. After a long pause, he drew a deep breath, and spoke. Rayne will no longer be a delegate at these discussions. In fact, I doubt Rayne will be present at anything again. Hartman has informed me of what's been said here so far, so I'm well up to speed. Dreadfire began walking slowly and continued speaking. While I find the notion of any alliance between these 3 organizations absurd, I do believe it could be done...if Arda would quit looking down it's nose at everybody else. It is the opinion of the Dread Fires that any "alliance" be lead the same way a nation should be lead: by a singular individual. Now, the problem with this is that I doubt leadership of this alliance would even leave Arda, which is why I fear these talks are in vain. GDODAD reps and Reich reps are looking to expand and form something anew, and Arda is looking to only further their interests. Damien eyed each delegate from Arda slowly, a cold emotionless expression on his face. That is why the Dread Fires reccomend that a mutual friendship treaty be formally be signed, and leave it at that. Any alliance that you attempt to form will be filled with constant bickering, and I doubt I, or any other GDODAD nation for that matter, has the time to listen to that.

Damien sat down, exhaling slowly as he did. He glanced around a final time, and after thinking for a second, spoke. Oh, I'm sorry...how rude of me. I'm also here to state that for better or worse, Damien Dreadfire has returned. The kind of spinelessness and corruption that crippled Automagfreek under Rayne is now over. A New Dawn has arisen.

http://207.44.246.95/40/9/upload/p3403.jpg (http://home.eznet.net/%7Edeck/fe/Finger%20Eleven_Slow%20Chemical.mp3)
---Damien Dreadfire---
-Supreme Dictator of AMF-
G.D.O.D.A.D
-C.o.E Member-
Ruler of The Ancient Republic of Greek Forces, The Silent Protectorate of Old Frankland, The Holy Kingdom of The Royal Knights, The Mentally Superior Republic of Arrogant Uber Geniuses, The Raving Lunatics of Hackers Demise

Danneland

10-01-2004, 01:16

Daniel cleared his thorat before he spoke up. "I would suggest that GDODAD withdraws from these negotiations and this so called atempt to form an alliance if it comes to it that those who lead would sit in a councill and vote. the GDODAD consists of Dictators. It is against our ideology to vote, one man, one voice, one strong leader! Though I have not been here to hear it all, and though I come from the old times when GDODAD was something to fear. It is still the basis in the GDODAD alliance that we are dictators. The rest of you can do whatever you want. But if the GDODAD agrees on a voting system Danneland will withdraw from the alliance." his eyes were cold as they looked at each one of those who were present.

Danneland

10-01-2004, 01:17

evil doublepost.

Danneland

10-01-2004, 01:18

evil doublepost.

Danneland

10-01-2004, 01:18

evil doublepost.

Barbarosea

10-01-2004, 01:37

HTL was silencenced by the statments made by AMF and Danneland.

Diminix

10-01-2004, 02:36

Edit: n/m too early for dat

Melkor Unchained

10-01-2004, 04:49

Alkanphel stood and rested his palms on the table. He stood with his head bowed for a moment, formulating his response. Slowly, his head rose and his hand trailed slightly on the table as he pasced slowly away from the table. He peered at Damien intently, and his eyes flashed. His voice came out almost in a hiss. "Such a treaty already exists. Perhaps it would serve you better to study your alliances' foriegn policy? GDODAD and Arda have long been friends. And by the sound of your talk, you hardly approve."

He pushed his brows togehter and scowled at Damien. He seemed to grow larger in stature as he spoke, and his eyes were still glowing. "I hazard to guess that your death caused more than a few important brain cells to die off. Your surmisals are wildly unfounded. Bickering and infighting are the hallmarks of a weak alliance. They're problems that plague the GDODAD because of the nature of some of its members. Ineptitude would certainly not be tolerated, Damien, and you of all people ought to repect the power of Arda. Do you see bickering within our ranks? Do you see dissent? Infighting? Open your eyes, Damien, and take a look around. it should be a novel experience."

Lord Alkanphel
High Warlord of Lord Melkor's Imperium, First Counselor to Melkor Himself
http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/alkanphel1.jpg

Automagfreek

10-01-2004, 05:00

Damien paused after Alkanphel finished speaking, then let loose a roaring laugh, so loud it echoed off the walls. He fixed his fiery eyes on Alkanphel, and spoke.

I am well aware of the "friendship treaty" that exists between GDODAD and Arda...although I have yet to see it on paper! As for your tone, Lord Alkanphel, I suggest you lower it. i have not passed through fire and death to be scoffed at by the likes of you. You are making claims that Arda is the pinnacle of alliances, which is all well and fine...if it were true. Arda has failed to accomplish much of anything recently, and in fact, your greatest enemy (the elves) still exist! Arda may be a close knit community, but I have yet to see any major follow through.

As for your insults on me, they will not be tolerated. If your condecending manner has any bearing on what this potential alliance may be, then I'm sad to say that it is already doomed. Brethren are supposed to respect eachother, and that is something a snooty being such as yourself cannot muster.

Damien scowled, and turned away from Alkanphel, his eyes breaking away at the last second.

As for the rest of you, I'm sure you're willing to be more reasonable than Alkanphel here. If any alliance is to exist, you must not expect anything less than total respect and affection from Arda. The GDODAD is willing to make this work, but Arda must swallow some of it's damn pride first.

http://207.44.246.95/40/9/upload/p3403.jpg (http://home.eznet.net/%7Edeck/fe/Finger%20Eleven_Slow%20Chemical.mp3)
---Damien Dreadfire---
-Supreme Dictator of AMF-
G.D.O.D.A.D
-C.o.E Member-
Ruler of The Ancient Republic of Greek Forces, The Silent Protectorate of Old Frankland, The Holy Kingdom of The Royal Knights, The Mentally Superior Republic of Arrogant Uber Geniuses, The Raving Lunatics of Hackers Demise

Wretchengard

10-01-2004, 05:07

OOC: Sorry I haven't participated recently, I left my the damned power cable for my laptop at home when I returned to university on sunday. I got it back today, so I should be able to take part from now on.

IC: As Damien Dreadfire-back from the dead, it would seem-walked in and made his speech, Overlord Bradley Steelblood smiled inwardly. It appears that the woman Rayne had paid the price for her insolence, although it had not been the doing of Alkanphel or himself. Oh well, he thought. Though it remains to be seen if this Dreadfire will be any easier to deal with... The Overlord had heard much of Damien during his previous life, but had never dealt with the man directly.

It didn't look as if the first impression was to be a good one. As the AMF warlord met all the representatives of Arda with a cold glare, Overlord Steelblood met that glare with his own unnaturally icy gaze. If he felt threatened or intimidated at all, he did not show it on his stony face. If one was paying attention, they might have noticed the briefest expression of fear on the High Justicar Thanos' face, however.

If he expects me to be afraid, then he does not know whom he is dealing with, the massive Overlord thought, as his sorcerous energies itched to be unleashed. The tenseness lessened as Damien took his seat.

"Now, if there are no more interruptions and unexpected surprises, could we resume the meeting?" the Wretchan Overlord rumbled.

Barbarosea

10-01-2004, 05:23

As HTL got up, he spoke...
"Ok, now we must move on and put aside our differences. If any more bickering occurs, this allience will be doomed. Be at peace. Now, back to buiness. Lord Alkanphel, what do you make of the proposed leadership structure, as LCS backed? Hmm? I wish to here your opinion. As for you Damien, what do you think?"

He was seated...

Automagfreek

10-01-2004, 05:38

Well, seeing as Arda (or MU at least) probably won't back down, and I sure as hell won't, I suggest we find someone to lead who isn't in either of the 3 alliances. Personally, I'd reccommend Sketch. They are one of the world's most powerful nations up and down, and the daily reports show that. I don't know about Arda or The Reich, but Sketch is on friendly terms with GDODAD.

Just my thoughts.

http://207.44.246.95/40/9/upload/p3403.jpg (http://home.eznet.net/%7Edeck/fe/Finger%20Eleven_Slow%20Chemical.mp3)
---Damien Dreadfire---
-Supreme Dictator of AMF-
G.D.O.D.A.D
-C.o.E Member-
Ruler of The Ancient Republic of Greek Forces, The Silent Protectorate of Old Frankland, The Holy Kingdom of The Royal Knights, The Mentally Superior Republic of Arrogant Uber Geniuses, The Raving Lunatics of Hackers Demise

10-01-2004, 06:10

"Allright everyone, before we get to heated, let us all remind ourselves that we are all freinds in here. We are all here to further that freindship. Our enemies are not in this room, but are out in the world. They are the elves, the democracies, and all others who dare to stand in our way. So let us all calm down for now."

"Also I will stand adamantly by this, if any alliance shall have voting powers, than it is an alliance i wish no part of, and I am sure the rest of the GDODAD will share the same feeling. There is one thing we pride ourselves in, it is our avoidance of this democracy. That is all I now have to say about this leadership debate. I do not care who becomes the head of any alliance, so long as there is no voting."

"Now Damein this is a truly shocking event. You have even cheated death. Perhaps you would be willing to share with us your story. I have to admit i would much rather have you than that Rayne chick."

Automagfreek

10-01-2004, 06:12

"Now Damein this is a truly shocking event. You have even cheated death. Perhaps you would be willing to share with us your story. I have to admit i would much rather have you than that Rayne chick."

The last thing I remember is Rayne firing a 9mm into my face and stumbling a few miles to the hospital. That's all I remember, so I'm afraid there is not much of a story.

I'm glad to hear that my presense is more appreciated than Rayne's.

http://207.44.246.95/40/9/upload/p3403.jpg (http://home.eznet.net/%7Edeck/fe/Finger%20Eleven_Slow%20Chemical.mp3)
---Damien Dreadfire---
-Supreme Dictator of AMF-
G.D.O.D.A.D
-C.o.E Member-
Ruler of The Ancient Republic of Greek Forces, The Silent Protectorate of Old Frankland, The Holy Kingdom of The Royal Knights, The Mentally Superior Republic of Arrogant Uber Geniuses, The Raving Lunatics of Hackers Demise

Melkor Unchained

10-01-2004, 07:48

Alkanphel snickered. "You must think yourself quite the hero, charging in like this and offering up your unwanted and convoluted thoughts. You are in my Empire, Mr. Dreadfire, you are a guest in my hall. Do what you wish on your own land but here you will refrain from such hostile provocation."

Alkanphel's gaze slipped from the impudent Dreadfire, and turned to the rest of the delegates. "Mr. Dreadfire's stance seems to be the first and only meaningful dissent I've heard to Ardan leadership. It's no surprise, especially given this man's... ill-conceived ideas. It was under his administration that AMF attacked the Imperium, if I'm not mistaken. I cannot speak for the rest of you, of course, but I was under the impression that we were dealing with a different regime. Given that AMF's leadership seems to have shifted in the last few hours, speaks volumes of their stability and strength." His eyes slipped back to Damien. "Or lack thereof."

He cleared his throat, and continued. "Given his actions in the past, and the display you have seen here, I do not recognize Damien Dreadfire as an ally, and frankly I do not know why the guards let him in."

Lord Alkanphel
High Warlord of Lord Melkor's Imperium, First Counselor to Melkor Himself
http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/alkanphel1.jpg

Automagfreek

10-01-2004, 07:52

You forget Alkanphel, Automagfreek is the one that arranged these talks, and it is Automagfreek that was going to host the talks...untill you had to have your way. Yes, Automagfreek invaded the Imperium long ago, but you cannot seem to forget that, is there a reason why?

Damien stood up and moved towards the door.

Seeing as I'm obviously not welcome in your "Empire", I bid The Reich representatives and my GDODAD friends good day.

http://207.44.246.95/40/9/upload/p3403.jpg (http://home.eznet.net/%7Edeck/fe/Finger%20Eleven_Slow%20Chemical.mp3)
---Damien Dreadfire---
-Supreme Dictator of AMF-
G.D.O.D.A.D
-C.o.E Member-
Ruler of The Ancient Republic of Greek Forces, The Silent Protectorate of Old Frankland, The Holy Kingdom of The Royal Knights, The Mentally Superior Republic of Arrogant Uber Geniuses, The Raving Lunatics of Hackers Demise

And with that, Damien left the discussions and made for AMF.

Presgreif

10-01-2004, 07:59

Sarah's mind raced. Rayne was gone, replaced instead by this Damien, who had wasted no time in bringing these negotiations to a breaking point. The meeting was already falling apart, having hardly begun. The idiot from Diminix left in the middle of the conference, some Danneland fellow had showed up (she wasn't even aware that he was a GDODAD member), and things were slowly reverting into chaos. Why was this Damien recommending Sketch as the leader of this union. Sketch? How was this nation relevant in any way to the trium? What back stage game was being played out here? It seemed to her that Dreadfire was speaking as the leader or at least chief negotiator of GDODAD. Did Bob have nothing to say about this? Was this the mighty GDODAD which the Greif had worked so hard become a part of? She felt she should say something, but realized there was nothing to say. She would remain silent for now, and allow the actors in this little drama to reveal themselves.

Barbarosea

10-01-2004, 08:19

OOC: MU, was does LA think of the proposal that we put fowarad? That's what I'm going on.

Presgreif

10-01-2004, 08:29

Sarah looked over her shoulder at the door through which Damien had just departed. She looked upon those gathered, and at Alkanphel in particular. Indeed, Melkor would make a fine leader for their alliance. A fine leader....but what of it? It was AMF who had organized this meeting. She still remembered how the idea had unfolded. Dreadfire had suggested an alliance with Arda. It was her own Mistress, Natalya, who had suggested bringing the Reich into the mix. But it was Dreadfire's efforts which had lead them to where they were today. His intentions were noble; a true union of equal partners. Melkor would make a fine leader, but the whole situation was wrong. He was not interested in an alliance of equal partners. From the very begining it seemed, he had been pushing to dominate the talks, and then dominate the merger. She respected his ruthless politics, but Presgreif's primary loyalty was to GDODAD. She could not, would not forget that fact. Damien was in the right. She didn't like it, but he was. She rose, and addressed the assembly:

"I regret to inform you all that in this situation, the Empire of the Greif must side with Mr. Dreadfire. I have played my own small part in the furthering of these negotiations, and wished in my heart of hearts that they would be successful. However, I no longer believe this union to be possible. Perhaps some day, but not now. Since this meeting began, I have heard only words of scorn for the GDODAD. That we are weak. That we are divided. That we have no resolve. Know this dear friends, this is a different GDODAD than that which you are all used to dealing with. As every alliance of strong characters, we have our misunderstandings. But we are stronger than you would believe, and we lack nothing in resolve or unity. The new blood is in, the weak links are struck. And we shall not be slighted. Ever, by anyone. Good day. I hope our next meeting, should there ever be one, will have a happier conclusion."

With that, Sarah stepped briskly out of the hall, hoping to catch up to Dreadfire. They had words to exchange.

Melkor Unchained

10-01-2004, 09:20

Alkanphel pushed his brows together and stood. "Well, unless Bob has something to say about this, it looks like the GDODAD is out. Very well, the Idiots have spoken," he said with a snort. "And its no surprise they sabotaged our vision." He nodded to his left, and the guardsrushed out of the room. Those standing guard in the foyer blocked the door and levelled their weapons at Damien as he progressed towards the exit.

"Damien will find it very difficult to leave Ali'Staan--we will make him pay for his words, and for his crimes in the past. I will not let this bastard speak down his nose at me in my hall," Alkanphel said, striding to the door. He stared across the long hallway to Damien, who was some ways down. He clenched his fist and set his jaw. Being alone, he didn't stand too much of a chance.

"Stop yourself now, Damien. Save us the trouble, and pay the price for your words."

Lord Alkanphel
High Warlord of Lord Melkor's Imperium, First Counselor to Melkor Himself
http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/alkanphel1.jpg

[ooc: umm.. AMF I dont mean to be a dick about this but Alkanphel is sort of.. um.. well, a dick. At any rate, I know you've got some plans for Damien coming up, but it would take a godmode of Axackal-esque proportions to get him out of there in one piece, seeing as he's unaccompanied [if not, he's outnumbered by a healthy margin]. But yeah... lets see where it goes.]

Automagfreek

10-01-2004, 09:25

Melkor Unchained

10-01-2004, 09:30

[ooc: umm.. AMF I dont mean to be a dick about this but Alkanphel is sort of.. um.. well, a dick. At any rate, I know you've got some plans for Damien coming up, but it would take a godmode of Axackal-esque proportions to get him out of there in one piece, seeing as he's unaccompanied [if not, he's outnumbered by a healthy margin]. But yeah... lets see where it goes.]

OOC: Um...I have VERY big plans for Damien, and I'm afraid any attempts to prevent him from leaving will not sit well with my friends not only in GDODAD but in The Reich. I hope Alkanphel realizes that.

[ooc: well, then you should have thought of that before having him barge into the Imperial Hall under Alkanphel's watch. I mean, I know you wanted to make a point, but I just can't let that go ICly. It would be out of character for any Imperial to put up with that kind of talk in his hall. Hell, it's almost a law.

I know youve got plans, and I'm sure we can work something out. But at the moment though, I'm afraid I can't avoid having Alkanphel detaining Dreadfire.]

Automagfreek

10-01-2004, 09:30

Melkor Unchained

10-01-2004, 09:36

Dreadfire continued walking towards the door as if nothing happened. Without turning his head, he said Very cute Alkanphel, very cute. My business here is finished, and I will be on my way. I have important matters that need my immediate attention, and I have no time for tempter tanrtums.

Damien continued walking regardless as if the guards didn't exist.

The guards stood their ground. They knew that ultimately, wether they died or not, Damien was not leaving the building. They unhitched the safties on their weapons, and prepared to fire. 2 dozen rifles were trained on Damien, laser sights dotting the man's torso and head.

Alkanphel tapped his foot, and raised his hand. "You have one more chance, Dreadfire. Humor me, or you'll be killed where you stand. And I guarantee you won't be coming back this time."

Lord Alkanphel
High Warlord of Lord Melkor's Imperium, First Counselor to Melkor Himself
http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/alkanphel1.jpg

Automagfreek

10-01-2004, 09:42

Presgreif

10-01-2004, 09:49

Melkor Unchained

10-01-2004, 09:50

Damien pointed across the room.

Here you see leaders from Iesus Christi, Diminix, Barbarosea, The Silver Turtle, Presgreif, etc. Do you honestly think if you kill me here that there will be no consequence? You are not taking me anywhere, bottom line, because these people you see here will not tolerate it. This has to be the worst tantrum I've ever seen, and I thought you had a shred of honor. 24 guns pointd at me is not a sign of honor. If mere words inflame you so, then it is a wonder that you are a public servant, because criticizm and harsh words are a daily occurance. Now, move your men.

Dreadfire stood without an ounce of fear, looking the coward Alkanphel dead in the face, a ragin fire behind his eyes.

Alkanphel lowered his hand. "Subdue him," he ordered, and the men charged at Damien, bludgeoning him with their weapons and fists. Every one of them were large, physically powerful men--not easily brushed aside. THe largest of them, clearly the captain, draws a truncheon and begins flailing at Dreadfire.

Lord Alkanphel
High Warlord of Lord Melkor's Imperium, First Counselor to Melkor Himself
http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/alkanphel1.jpg

Automagfreek

10-01-2004, 09:52

Alkanphel lowered his hand. "Subdue him," he ordered, and the men charged at Damien, bludgeoning him with their weapons and fists. Every one of them were large, physically powerful men--not easily brushed aside. THe largest of them, clearly the captain, draws a truncheon and begins flailing at Dreadfire.

Lord Alkanphel
High Warlord of Lord Melkor's Imperium, First Counselor to Melkor Himself
http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/alkanphel1.jpg

OOC: I'm not even going to reply to that yet. I'm going to wait and see what eveyone else has to say.

Presgreif

10-01-2004, 09:53

ooc: Um, MU, I think we posted at the same time. Could you please alter your post so that you take into acount the appearance of Sarah on the scene. thnx

Melkor Unchained

10-01-2004, 09:53

Sarah finally found Damien. She cursed herself for taking that wrong turn, but this place was so damned confusing....
She was appaled by what she observed, the Melkorian was actually trying to arrest Damien.

"What is this?! I see the Melkorian has a short fuse indeed. The talks did not go your way, so now you will make an international incident. For the love of all that is erotic (ooc: Greifan expression), unhand my ally now, Alkanphel. We came here as friends. This is how you treat friends? You have doomed any possibility of future cooperation between our nations. Your behavior this day is honorless. And believe you me, Melkor will have your head on a pike before the day is through. You, you, grrr."

Alkanphel loooked sternly at Sarah. "Would you consider a man who ordered your country invaded a friend? You are wrong. Rayne was our ally, not this man. As I said before, I regard Dreadfire as a foe. The guards can now redeem themselves for letting him in [ooc: a great leap of faith, that] by subduing him. Never worry, he won't be killed or held... but I think he has a room full of people behind me that he owes an apology."

Lord Alkanphel
High Warlord of Lord Melkor's Imperium, First Counselor to Melkor Himself
http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/alkanphel1.jpg

Melkor Unchained

10-01-2004, 09:54

OOC: I'm not even going to reply to that yet. I'm going to wait and see what eveyone else has to say.

[ooc: ok thats completely cool... I gotta go to bed anyways. See ya later :P ]

Presgreif

10-01-2004, 09:55

Sarah threw herself into the fray, and began to brutaly beat on the first guard which fell to her wrath.

"Unhand him, fool!"

Wretchengard

10-01-2004, 10:49

Overlord Steelblood shook his head as Alkanphel left to pursue Damien into the hall. Godammit, it's all falling apart! he cursed inwardly, thumping his fist on the table.

"Stay here," the Overlord growled to his son. "Speak with the other delegates and try to dissuade any more from leaving. I will see if any damage control can be done."

The big Wretchan ruler stood and walked towards the hallway, hoping that there was some way that the meeting could be salvaged. He closed the door behind him and walked out into the hall, eyes blazing with energy.

Alkanphel, at what cost are you willing to buy Ardan dominance over this union? he mentally chided, knowing the Warlord would hear it. We are at risk of alienating trusted friends here, and then we won't have much of a union! Despite Dreadfire's behaviour, he is the leader of what is still a prominent GDODAD nation...

The Overlord murmured off a quick spell and moved to restrain (but not injure) Sarah, his already incredible strength now increased to near-impossible levels.

Presgreif

10-01-2004, 10:55

Sarah felt someone grab her from behind, and gave the bloody pulp under her one last boot to the head. She then turned her head to see what she could do with her new assailant. She relaxed a little when she recognized the Overlord of Wretchengard, an aquaintance of her mistress. "Steelblood," she exhaled rather than said, "do something."

Wretchengard

10-01-2004, 11:09

"There is not much I can do," he replied quietly. "This is not my domain, and I cannot make commands here. It will bring no good for you to battle the guard and injure yourself, however. I trust that Alkanphel will not bring Damien to great harm." He glanced over at Alkanphel as he said this, empathizing the urgency of the situation in his thoughts.

Vegana

10-01-2004, 13:13

Count Gorhilsje glared at Slobodan, boring into his mind;

You're far too clever for your own good, young-kingdomer. How would a council of five suit you? A council consisting of the four which I named earlier, and one other Reich representative. That would at least weaken the influence of the GDODAD fools over our alliance. Their stupidity is shown clearly in their wish to delegate and dilute power. I trust that you will speak against such foolishness.

Slobodan looked with great interest at the other leaders that had spoken and the fight that was beginning. How very interesting personalities. How much I would love to do some psychoanalysis on them. I wonder why the count is staring at me? Hmmm... He smiled at the arguing people, there was no way in hell he was going to interfere with this rabble. Lets see what did the Danneland delegate say? No votes?Slobodan would have loved to interview his mother. But on the other hand this seemed to escalate to something that didn't include votes. Slobodan motioned for Erik and General Rand to stay out of the way and be prepared to withdraw, in haste.

imported_Kalessin

10-01-2004, 13:28

As Damien was progressing toward the door, Count Gorhilsje slipped quietly around the back of the room, moving swiftly to intercept, his armour shifting to merge seamlessly into the shadows.

Thus, as the truncheon of the captain descended toward Dreadfire, it was gripped in gauntleted fist, and forced backward. The Count's armour began to glow once more, so brightly that Alkanphel's guards shrank backward, shielding their eyes with their arms, even as his voice sliced into their minds;

Cease

He glanced at Steelblood;

Well done, try to keep her under control, while we sort this out.

Before turning his gaze upon Alkanphel;

In case you had not remembered, my lord Alkanphel, all members of the Reich and GDODAD were invited to this meeting, including this fool, Damien Dreadfire. This is your hall, and I will not oppose you here, but remember that to assault an invited guest is to break all the ancient laws of hospitality. Alliances are based upon trust and honour. To proceed with this course of action would show you to be neither trustworthy nor honourable. I feel that you are both, and thus you must allow Dreadfire to leave unharmed.

With that, he released his grip upon the truncheon, and stepped back, turning so that he could address all of the GDODAD delegates;

"It was my belief, until today, that GDODAD was an autocracy, in the same way as all of its member states, under the rule of the Silver Turtle, and that its member nations knew their place, and had the ability to work together to some extent. I see that I was naive in these beliefs. I see now that they are but selfish, visionless fools, so desparate to guard their own power, that they cannot see the greater picture, and that GDODAD is but a name, with no power worth considering."

imported_Kalessin

10-01-2004, 13:36

Gorhilsje paused for a moment, before continuing, in a more subdued tone;

"Now, all that wish to be part of the greatest alliance the world has ever seen. An alliance which will have the ability to crush all our mutual enemies under our boots without any risk to us whatsoever, resume your seats. Any that do not wish to be part of such an enterprise, and who wish to sit in your petty little palaces, dreaming your petty little dreams of conquering the minor and worthless states around you, while quivering in fear due to the risk of retribution from some other meaningless little power, leave now, and do not pollute our ears with your pathetic voices any further."

Danneland

10-01-2004, 16:44

Daniel got up on his feet, filled with anger.
"SILENCE! ALL OF YOU!" his voice roared over all others.
"What is this? a kindergarden? a place where grown men can act like small children again? This is an discussion, and so far what GDODAD have stated as I have understood from notes are that we want a leader, not some voting councill.. we have never said who that would be. So if Arda and The Reich can come with demands, so can we!"

His eyes glared at everyone and finaly at Damien and Lord Alkanphel
"Are the two of you going to ruin this chance by holding old grudges against echother?" and before Lord Alkanphel could answer "And no, I dont care if he attacked you or what happend back then. Your alliance as well as ours as well as the Reichs concists of more members than the two of you. You wish to wage war against one another? Very well, do so.. but not here, not now.. not now!"
Daniels voice was hard and cold, he knew that he was alone, he knew that he was in another country. And it was probably why people would listen to him. A lone man who had nothing but thruth in his words.
"Now sit down, both of you and calm yourselves down!"
His eyes looked at the pair, and it was obvious, there was no misstake that he was serious about his words.

"Count Gorhilsje, you have nothing.. nothing that you can fall back on when you say those words. As I said to those two, calm down, sit down and lets just start from the beginning. Where each representant says what they want out of the alliance and then we can all come up with an agreement"

Barbarosea

10-01-2004, 18:56

As HTL watched this, he stayed out of it, but ordered the Elite Jaggs to protect him if anyone so much took two steps toward him. As things settled down, he spoke.

"Daneil is right. We can't be fighting eachother when we should be crushing our enemies. You should know that if Fredrick was here, he would have shot those guards and ordered the Jagg's to do the same. I am more controled and would not do that because of the havoc it would bring on my nation. Now, if you don't sit down, I will call these talks off for the GDODAD. I know I am not the leader, but in drastic times, drastic measures must be taken. Now, are we going to talk about the best allience in the world, or are we going to bicker some more? I feel that this can work, but only if we can but aside our "I'm a macho leader, I can do anything" attitude. We have to stop insulting eachother, and acting like 6-year-olds. Expecially Count Gorhilsje, all you have done in these talks is insult the GDODAD. I think that you need to put aside your "Arda is the best" crap and forget it. Sure, they might be more powerful, but if this allience is going to work, we must treat eachother like equals. Now, I think that the proposed leadership system would work. As you see, the leader doesn't need to wait for a council's advice, but if the matter isn't pressing, he can. He can wait and here the council's advice, but he doesn't have to. There is no voting involved, if there was, I wouldn't be suggesting it.

HTL was seated, but the Elite Jaggs were still on alert, and they were ready.

Vegana

10-01-2004, 19:11

Slobodan looked at the squabbling leaders with amazement. He knew that The benevolent Jaar had told him that he never sent warriors to do diplomats jobs. He looked around at all these huge warlords, some even bigger than Erik, and Erik was quite large. Now they loomed together and seemed to be about to tear eachothers throats. Slobodan once more thought of rabid pitbulls as he watched the different players in this charade of a meeting. He harkled and said in quite a loud voice:

"Gentlemen, and ladies.. I am a bit taken back by all this talk about violence among firends. Is it possible that even this meeting is going the Nephilims way? Because it would seem like some share the doom of the elves discussing this, pride." He looked at the representants from Danneland and Scott "You talk about the glory of dictatorships and no votes and so on.. Well, if you are so eager to put down your votes you are welcome. The Reich is getting tired of your petty squabble. We were here before lord Melkor Stirred, we were here before GDODAD was called Dominion, we are still here. We were called to this meeting, and we came. We did NOT come here to have a long tiresome comparing measuring of the size of everyones sexual organ. Could you please deal with the problem AFTER this meeting? As I said earlier we would like to make a proof-of-concept to see what this alliance could create. If you think it is impossible to create such an alliance we will leave. As we already have good honourable relations with Lord Melkor, and relations with some of the Noble GDODAD nations assembled here and others, we will continue with our war against the elves with occasional support from any of those groups. Eventually we WILL win that war, but a functional alliance with you would shorten the time considerably."

http://members.cox.net/davage/images/Slobodan.jpg

10-01-2004, 19:42

"Well, an odd twist of events."

The High Lord was somehow able to keep his cool. It was one of his trademarks, how he seemed nonchalant.

"First I will say, all of us need to keep our toungues in check. If any alliance is to work, than we all must have our peice of humble pie. At first it may not be appetizing, but it does have quite an intriguing aftertaste. We must all keep some of our feelings in check, for the greater good. Now usually I am not one to chastise a world leader in public, at this point I will. Damien your hot head at this point has done more harm than good. This shall be discussed at a later time though within our alliance."

Melkor Unchained

10-01-2004, 19:45

It became apparent at this point, due to a change in the guards' fighting styles, that they were'nt trying to permanently harm Draedfire. It seemed they were trying to force him back into the conference Hall.

Alkanphel turned back to the delegation, and stepped aside as the guards neared. "My friends, I apologize for this, but I cannot allow this to pass. I'm not persecuting him for his ideas, but his demeanor. His words--not my actions--led to GDODAD's unfortunate decision to pull out. I'm not doing this out of spite, I'm doing it to prove a point," he continued, glancing for a moment over his shoulder. "One does not come in here and speak to me or anyone else as he did. I will allow him to come in here and repeat himself more civilly, and offer an apology to myself and the Ardan Lords he's insulted. I feel everyone's been altogether too hasty to abandon these talks."

Lord Alkanphel
High Warlord of Lord Melkor's Imperium, First Counselor to Melkor Himself
http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/alkanphel1.jpg

10-01-2004, 19:52

After a short pause, the high lord continued.

"Now if we want these talks to continue, there is one thing we must ask ourselves. Do we wish to grow stronger, create an alliance with an unmatched strength in the world, or do we wish to throw petty insults at each other and tarnish our good relations?"

"First I wish that this event does not tarnish the years of great relations between all of our nations. This was a convention to further our relations, not destroy them."

"At this point we need to cool down. I reccomend a suspension in the talks, for a week (rl days). This will allow us to cool our heads and our thoughts. Also, real plans for the alliance may be drawn up by anyone and everyone. Maybe than these talks can continue."

"My only fear is that is if these talks are suspended they may never continue. I want a pledge from everyone that they will return if we do suspend the talks. However if everyone wishes to continue with the talks as it is than i have no protest."

imported_Kalessin

10-01-2004, 22:31

Gorhilsje looked at HTL, and chuckled quietly;

"I have no more or less respect for GDODAD than for any other group of young-kingdomers, and I have most certainly not restricted myself to 'insulting GDODAD', as you put it so... inaccurately. I have also attempted to present the views of my Emperor concerning the structure of this alliance. But it seems that such things are less important to you than picking up on trivial, percieved insults. Despite what I have seen here, and I will candidly admit that todays proceedings have strongly suggested that GDODAD's leaders are no more than barbaric chieftains, such as the fur-clad creatures who we enslaved when we first came to this world, I do feel that GDODAD could be a useful ally, especially if its members realised that shouting an argument as loudly as possible several times does not make it a good argument. Clearly to give a single leader the amount of power which this alliance would represent would be foolish in the extreme. In such a case, the mere whim of that leader could cause the end of life on this entire world. A single temper-tantrum could cause more horror than the entire elven plague. And I would also suggest that my comments on GDODAD's lack of mutual loyalty have been vindicated by the fact that only I, a representative of an Ardan nation, am now standing beside your ally, Damien Dreadfire."

He turned to Alkanphel;

"And GDODAD has stated no intention to pull out. Such a decision, if I am correct, can only be made by the Ineffable Lord Bob, and he has not spoken either way. Now shall we do as Lords Slobodan and Christopher Scott have suggested, and discuss this whole matter in a more...rational matter?"

He glanced at Lord Christopher Scott;

Hmmm...you seem more..civilised than most of these Young-Kindomer barbarians. And you have patience? How rare in a dictator! Should you ever wish to visit the Empire to discuss an alliance on a national level, you are welcome in my tower.

Automagfreek

10-01-2004, 22:34

Damien stood fully erect once more and few in a deep breath. For the sake of my brothers in this room, I will take leave now. I agree with much that's been, especially from Kalessin's delegate. Your hospitality has been lacking since I walked in Alkanphel, and through your insult and inhospitibal demeanor, the situation escalated when I would not stand by and watch GDODAD get shafted and insulted. I came in here with an open mind, but now it's made up.

http://207.44.246.95/40/9/upload/p3403.jpg (http://home.eznet.net/%7Edeck/fe/Finger%20Eleven_Slow%20Chemical.mp3)
---Damien Dreadfire---
-Supreme Dictator of AMF-
G.D.O.D.A.D
-C.o.E Member-
Ruler of The Ancient Republic of Greek Forces, The Silent Protectorate of Old Frankland, The Holy Kingdom of The Royal Knights, The Mentally Superior Republic of Arrogant Uber Geniuses, The Raving Lunatics of Hackers Demise

Damien turned yet again and started towards the door, ready this time incase Alkanphel had any more bright ideas. He looked down at his ceremonial armor and growled as he examined the dents and scratches. He shook his head and continued on.

imported_Kalessin

10-01-2004, 23:14

Count Gorhilsje looked straight at Alkanphel as Damien spoke;

Ignore him. This is not the time or the place. If you wish vengeance upon him, challenge him. But do it after this conference has ended.

OOC:
AMF....the Count's earlier comments on Alkanphel's hospitality were heard only with the confines of their two minds. (italics = telepathy, directed at whoever I say the Count is looking at, unless I state otherwise.)

Presgreif

11-01-2004, 00:00

Sarah gazed into Steelblood's eyes, perhaps a bit too intimatly for two people who knew each other not. She was attracted to the Lord of Wretchengard, there was no two ways about it.
"Do unhand me, my Lord." she said gently, and slipped from his grasp. She looked at those gathered there, the all too complacent representatives of GDODAD, the arrogantly scournful reprsentatives of Arda and the Reich. She snorted despite herself. This was truly a precious scene. Alkanphel had overstepped his boundries. The others had dissapointed her with their reactions. She wished Melkor was here. HE would bring order to the chaos. She adjusted her garb, and threw a spiteful glance at the weakling guards who had thrown themselves at her ally. She then addressed the gathering.
"What is this? An exchange of insults and blows. Every one of you here wishes to display to the others your wit and refinement. I could personaly care less for these games. I know one thing, my ally has been insulted and set upon this day. It bodes ill for any cooperation amongst us. I will now adjourn to my quarters, and will have no more to do with these talks unless the Lord Melkor himself is present to reign in the rabble. I bid you good day."
With that, she stepped briskly away.

Automagfreek

11-01-2004, 01:10

OOC:
AMF....the Count's earlier comments on Alkanphel's hospitality were heard only with the confines of their two minds. (italics = telepathy, directed at whoever I say the Count is looking at, unless I state otherwise.)

OOC: Um...that's nice. I wasn't refering to your post at all when Damien was complaining of Alkanphel's hospitality. Generally when you are disrespected, you would comment along the lines of poor hospitality. :roll:

Wretchengard

11-01-2004, 01:24

When Sarah had appeared to calm down, the Overlord's grip softened and he let her slip free. He caught her eye for a moment, and his normally hard daze seemed to soften slightly. He shook it off as she took her leave and chastised himself mentally. Now is not the time to be thinking of girls like some puberty stricken teenager, he thought to himself. The talks have turned sour, and I must work to fix them.

The big Wretchan entered the meeting room again, addressing all of the remaining delegates.

"I suggest that we call a short recess from the meeting, and take some time to eat, socialize, or just cool off," he said, speaking above the clamour of the other delegates. "We must have level heads, or these talks are doomed."

Barbarosea

11-01-2004, 04:40

HTL forgot Count Gorhilsje's punitive insults. He was waiting for Lord Alkanphel's reply.

Diminix

11-01-2004, 05:24

Chingy sat there watching the entire situation with his head in his hand. He sat in dispair as the two breaking news briefs were mentioned to him. In a matter of days the Yayo Dominion had changed for the better. The death of emperor Yayo, the overun of the G Unit. But there was bad news as well. The meetings between the three organizations was slowly crumbling and not only that, a small uprising against them all has begun. Then he stood up.

"Wait a second! Look, there is no time to fight ok? There is a new threat against us now. If this succeeds, do you know what will happen? We might really collapse? The Yayo Dominion is now actually ready for a war. I think the time has come. This alliance MUST succeed, or it's over. For all of us."

[http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2562369#2562369]

^ There's the Anti-GDODAD/Reich/Arda thread.

Automagfreek

11-01-2004, 08:18

After barely taking a step out the door, Damien paused after hearing the news from the Diminix delegate. Someone found out about the meetings, and word has spread quickly. Already forces are being summoned to attack the participants in this supposed triple alliance. Damien turned and walked back into the room, looking directly at Alkanphel. Did you hear that? Word has gotten out about these talks, and there is already an outcry. Damien bit his lower lip slightly and blinked several times. It is in times like these that we need eachother most, wether you or anybody else sees it or not. The Dread Fires are not so full of pride as to deny it's mistakes, and therefore I will apologize for my harsh words. But with this apology comes a request: that the both of us not be so quick to fly off the handle. Several people here have stated over and over again that the enemy is not in here, but out there. And wether you see it or not AMF is vital ally to have, and in being an ally of AMF comes 100% loyalty on our behalf. The Freeks nor the Dread Fires back out on friends, NEVER. Thinking about it now, if I were to walk out that door and leave, I would be dishonoring both myself and them.

Damien stepped closer to Alkanphel with a semi-emotionless face. After hearing such news, he did not know what emotion to display. I am not too full of myself to offer an apology, but know that I do this for the sake of this "triple alliance" and everyone here. Now is not the time to bicker about the past, and I do understand why your nation may still feel sour about what happened between us long ago. But now's not the time for this, there is no time for this. The enemy rallies forces to it's banner as we speak, and to divide ourselves now would be foolish. The Dread Fires are willing to forgive and forget, but only if you would be so willing. We are both proud men Alkanphel, and it's not everyday men of our stature face eachother like this. 2 huge "egos", shall we say, never mix. I'm willing to sit back down and finish these talks, but you know that I can't see the alliance that I helped reshape get an unfair piece of the pie. We need to try and figure this out quickly.

And with that, Damien exhaled and extended an open hand towards Alkanphel. I offer my hand, but only once.

http://207.44.246.95/40/9/upload/p3403.jpg (http://home.eznet.net/%7Edeck/fe/Finger%20Eleven_Slow%20Chemical.mp3)
---Damien Dreadfire---
-Supreme Dictator of AMF-
G.D.O.D.A.D
-C.o.E Member-
Ruler of The Ancient Republic of Greek Forces, The Silent Protectorate of Old Frankland, The Holy Kingdom of The Royal Knights, The Mentally Superior Republic of Arrogant Uber Geniuses, The Raving Lunatics of Hackers Demise

Barbarosea

11-01-2004, 15:33

"Yes, now is the time for unity! We need a name, a leadership sturcture, and member cooperation to go to war. Lets decide now! I think that since no one else can come up with a leadership plan, we should use the GDODAD's one. I think that if Melkor is to lead, that shall be good for the time, but don't forget the TST and IC still are bigger players then anyone else in his decisions. As for the name, I have been informed by outside sources that putting 'evil' in our name is not the wiseset idea. I suggest something dealing with 'black' is it siginifies evil, but doesn't say evil. We must decide in haste now my friends."

The Silver Turtle

11-01-2004, 16:05

The Great Ineffable Bob rose from his seat. Whether he had been sleeping or not was a matter of opinion. Even Bob Minor knew not what he had been doing. [OOC: Internet broken was the real cause]
"Respected delegates, it seems we have run into a few problems. However, I do not believe it too late to fix them. I shall start from the beginning. Daniel, it is good to see you once again. However, The GDODAD is not as weak as it may seem. Fewer members I admit. However, those that remain are many times stronger than those that left. Our current incarnation could crush our previous ones. To Damien, I must congratulate you on your return to power
To everyone present here, I must ask you all to keep a cool head. Although the actions by Damien and Alkphanel were uncalled for, I must applaud him for having the maturity to apologise, and I hope, Lord Alkphanel, that you will be able to do the same.
As the Diminixian delegate has shown us, the thought of an alliance between our alliances is already sufficiently feared to force our enemies to rally against us. We cannot allow these talks to fail if we are to survive. Now who suggested that The GDODAD was leaving these talks? Only I have the authority to decide something of that importance.As for the leadership structure, the senior members do not weaken our alliance. If I was left to run the entire alliance on my own, as happened in the early days of The GDODAD, things would be done a tad faster, but I had a hard job of tracking everything. They are my aides, my advisors, and without them the alliance would surely fall apart. Are all our governments run by the King/Emperor/Supreme Ruler? No, we all have advisors, minions, to help us. It is similar with our [The GDODADs] leadership structure. I value every ally I have, they are my allies, advisors, and friends. Without them The GDODAD would not be possible. What is an alliance? Have any of you stopped to consider that? It is many nations, working together and protecting one another. Nations cooperating for a common goal. Bickering and infighting will only weaken that. Voting will not help us. Nations could be in an alliance of sorts, hating one another, but still take part in votes. That is not a true alliance. We need a true alliance, with a structure. A fourth alliance, formed from the three greatest "evil" alliances in the world. I propose that structure have a strong leader at the top, and I suggest that leader be Melkor. Then should be a kind of council of senior members, consisting of myself, Iesus, and the Emperor of Kalessin, each representing their alliance. There would be no voting. Everyone on the council will have a say on any descisions, but Melkor will have the final say, in the case of any severe disagreements. In the event of an emergency, any of the council members would be able to decide on a policy, which would hold until overturned by Melkor or the other two council members.
I agree that everyone should try and cool their heads, and then we should back to the process of forming the alliance, and away from the process of destroying it before it has begun.
As for a name, I am rather partial to the Kalessin Count's idea of Sceleratus Mundorum. However, I am afraid that our enemies may pounce upon the similarities between Mundorum and mundane. An idea that I just had is The Purple Flame. However I think that's pretty poor as a name, but perhaps we could have a logo of some kind like that? A purple flame against a black background, with the name of the alliance beneath? Just a thought."
TGI Bob sat back down and observed the reaction to his recent speech, while Bob Minor looked at his master and decided that he couldn't have been sleeping after all.

imported_Kalessin

12-01-2004, 15:22

Count Gorhilsje smiled genially, and stepped back from the two leaders. He turned to Damien.

"It is good to see that my initial hopes for GDODAD were not completely mistaken. Should Lord Alkanphel find it in his heart to give you forgiveness, then you shall have my hand as well."

He glanced at the Reich representatives;

Naturally, my Emperor would prefer some level of real power in this alliance, such as a vote, but if you support Bob's proposal, then so shall I, and I will do my best to persuade the Emperor to accept that situation. Maybe however we could add a furthur clause, allowing the three councillors, acting together, to overrule Melkor in an emergency.

Before turning his gaze upon the Ineffable Lord Bob;

Your system might prove acceptable. However, Melkor is rather unstable, being driven soley by anger, and so it may be wise, as a safety net, to add a clause allowing the three councillors, acting together, to overrule Melkor.

He chuckled quietly;

"And I have another name that might prove suitable. 'Metus', which means 'fear' in one of your ancient tongues, which is, I believe, what we most wish to inspire in our enemies."

Flocarga and Delmarva

12-01-2004, 17:15

Wretchengard

12-01-2004, 19:19

"Metus..." the Overlord said softly. He glanced up, meeting the Count's eyes as his lips curled in a wicked smile. "Fear. I like it."

He then focused on Alkanphel and Damien, waiting to see if the damage would be undone...

Presgreif

12-01-2004, 21:17

In The Meanwhile

Sarah, completely unaware of these talks, desperatly seeks to secure a personal interview with Melkor himself.

(ooc: I won't go into the details of this. I will leave it up to MU whether Sarah gets her meeting or not.)

Presgreif

12-01-2004, 21:17

Automagfreek

13-01-2004, 05:42

Damien looked around at the delegates from Arda, and then made a proposition. If Arda is truely committed to protecting members of the other alliances the way GDODAD has pledged, then here is a chance to show your follow through. TROUSRS, a GDODAD member, is being threatened with invasion. While the GDODAD backs TROUSRS 100%, that does not seem to be enough to deter the anti-GDODAD people from threatening war with TROUSRS. If Arda is to hold the same values of mutual defense that the GDODAD and Reich are willing to, then we would like to see Arda voice it's support, and pledge troops should war arise. Look at these statements: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=113764
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=113842

http://207.44.246.95/40/9/upload/p3403.jpg (http://home.eznet.net/%7Edeck/fe/Finger%20Eleven_Slow%20Chemical.mp3)
---Damien Dreadfire---
-Supreme Dictator of AMF-
G.D.O.D.A.D
-C.o.E Member-
Ruler of The Ancient Republic of Greek Forces, The Silent Protectorate of Old Frankland, The Holy Kingdom of The Royal Knights, The Mentally Superior Republic of Arrogant Uber Geniuses, The Raving Lunatics of Hackers Demise

Damien paused and waited for a response.

OOC: Mind you, I'm still waiting for Alkanphel to either shake or reject Damien's hand.

The Silver Turtle

14-01-2004, 15:14

Before turning his gaze upon the Ineffable Lord Bob;

Your system might prove acceptable. However, Melkor is rather unstable, being driven soley by anger, and so it may be wise, as a safety net, to add a clause allowing the three councillors, acting together, to overrule Melkor.

Slightly nodding his head to the count, TGI Bob replied:
Thank you, Count Gorhilsje. In fact, I had originally considered the exact same thing. I merely left it out for diplomatic reasons; seeing the situation I decided that suggesting the power to overrule Melkor might only serve to heighten the tensions. But I am glad to see we agree.

OOC: I've exams at the mo' so my presence will vary.
Edit: Getting a bit ahead of myself here, but here's a possible logo design, based on my purple flame and Kalessin's Metus name:
http://sc.groups.msn.com/tn/FB/60/AGEnterprises/1/20.jpg
A five minute paint job, but it doesn't look very bad

Melkor Unchained

15-01-2004, 17:17

Alkanphel took Damien's hand. "Very well." Turning to the delegation, he spoke at last. "I think you all have misunderstood my intentions. There was actually a point to this charade, though it didn't seem to happen quite the way I'd planned it." He snickered slightly, his gaze slipping to Damien. "It's certainly taken an interesting turn, yet again. I'm most pleased you didn't leave, Mr. Dreadfire."

He cleared his throat. "My point is this: dissent such as that Damien had with the will of the council should not have been worded thusly. We must all realize we're dealing with dictators and tyrants here: people that do not often like to 'delegate' authority. When one of us disagrees [as is bound to happen], it would behoove the affected party to word his greivances in such a way as to make us sympathetic to his plight. Damien may well have had a good point: and frankly, its not my place to determine wether he's right or not." He pointed his finger at the table. "That, my friends, is your own decision to make. We're here to confer, not question each othe. But beleive me when I tell you that I reacted no differently than any of you would have if I barged into your hall and slandered your alliance, questioning its ability to rule, and suggesting a ridiculous third party leader. I would not expect any less from any one of you had I shown this level of disrespect for your respective organizations."

He nodded to the guards again, and they stood at ease, returning to their posts. The blackjacket captain bowed to Damien and returned to the foyer. Alkanphel peered again at the delegation. "Now, if I have the blessing of the council, I'd like to finalize these talks. perhaps we could draw up a provisional agreement to work on in the meantime, whilst we write the proper treaty."

Lord Alkanphel
High Warlord of Lord Melkor's Imperium, First Counselor to Melkor Himself
http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/alkanphel1.jpg

Danneland

15-01-2004, 18:55

Daniel cleared his throat and sat down. "well Alkanphel, next time. do informt us of your charades. Next time you might not succeed at all. Damien might walk out and all the negotiations would fail"
He then gathered his papers infront of him. "it has come to my mind that the thing we dont have, is time. Each day the anti-dictators grow stronger. Each day the elves grow stronger, and each day tha anti-faschists grow stronger. And we? Well we are sitting here arguing against one another. I would sugest myselfe as the ruler, though few of you, or even any would find that idea atractive at all. So here I have an suggestion, Arda, The Reich and GDODAD form under one flag and one name, Metus for example. With the GDODAD style to rule and Melkor as its leader. Francly, I dont give a damn who is in charge as long it is a strong leader. And that Melkor truly is. I can't see how anyone would not benefit from this. Bacuse in the end, what we must overcome is our pride and realise that a name, a flag is nothing more but a flag and a name. It is the people behind it that makes the flag and the name count.
At this moment, Arda, The Reich, GDODAD is something to count with. But the next moment? It might not be anything more than a comment in the historybooks. However, Metus would be something more to fear than Adra, The Reich and GDODAD togeather. Since it is all of the three under one flag, one name.
Again, GDODAD structure with Melkor at the top"

Daniels eyes looked at one after another, waiting for reactions.

imported_Kalessin

15-01-2004, 20:47

OOC: This is between Morgy and Danneland's actions.

IC:

The Count stepped forward again, and offered his gauntleted hand to Damien Dreadfire.

It is well done.

Vegana

15-01-2004, 21:47

Slobodan couldn't understand why the Kalessin delegate kept staring at him from time to time. He shook his head, maybe he done something to someone he knew. Slobodan pushed away the thought.

http://members.cox.net/davage/images/Slobodan.jpg

Diminix

15-01-2004, 23:42

The Yayoan Delegate had his orders and was to execute them properly. He turned his attention off the Danneland delegate and looked towards Lord Alkanphel.

"Lord Alkanphel, I need to ask you something. Recently my superiors have brought to my attention that you and your dominion might have some problems with The Yayo Dominion. The evidence seems to be there, my lord. Now my emperor wishes for me to be his voice and ask if we could please settle our differences now. For the betterment of not only this union, but the world. If it is to succeed we must all be on good terms and that's my main mission right now."

Barbarosea

16-01-2004, 00:17

HTL got up, "I agree with Daniel, Melkor the leader, GDODAD's leadership system, only because it has worked."

imported_Kalessin

16-01-2004, 01:09

Count Gorhilsje chuckled gently at HTL;

"It has worked has it? Then why has GDODAD collapsed so many times? And why has it been defeated so many times, so easily? Maybe it is because while its followers speak of having a single leader, yet they are not content to be silent, while he speaks for them. Maybe it is because instead of heeding the wise words of the Ineffable Bob, the members of GDODAD must continue to rant on endlessly, in the belief that constant repitition of a suggestion somehow makes it a better one."

16-01-2004, 04:10

"Has someone flunked NationStates History many times?"

"First, the GDODAD was the most feared alliance in NationStates History. My freind, the might of the former GDODAD may never be matched, unless of course this alliacne takes place, which every indication shows it will. Anyway, our alliance has fallen in the past, but before this division of labor occoured. In fact we realised our defeat occoured as a result of our disorganization, and lack of direction. However before our defeat in WW5, we had many victories, including WW4, and WW3. We have not been defeated easily. And since our first defeat and betrayal of Steel Butterfly, we have regrouped and are here to stay."

"Also, I ask that all nations present show us a little more respect. The amount of disrespect is amazing, considering we are all great freinds, and are a force to be reconed with."

"Anyway, as I see it, we have these leadership proposals to choose from."

1) One Supreme Leader

2) Supreme Leader, with one council of 3 to advise

3) Supreme Leader, with large council to advise, with each member being the head of some job of alliance

4) Supreme Leader, upper council to advise with 3 members, lower council with each member being a minister to control their job

5) Supreme Leader, upper council to advise, and ministers (no council membership) just to do jobs for the alliance.

"Let us come to a consensus, so we can formalize the alliance."

Melkor Unchained

16-01-2004, 07:56

Alkanphel snorted. The GDODAD had never been more powerful than Arda by any conventional measure--except possibly as an economic entity. Even then, trade was never the GDODAD's strong point, much less Arda's. He bit his tounge, and allowed the LCS delegate his delusions.

"Personally I favor the second option, but I'll defer judgement so as to keep these proceedings free of my bias. Since it's been more or less widely acknowledged that the Imperium will lead this venture, I'll allow my fellow delegates the courtesy of determinig the workings. I would, however, like to keep the alliance free of ministries and subcommitties, as they'll simply slow things down."

He turned to Chingy, and inquisitive look on his face. "I do not beleive that prior to today, that your Empire and mine had any interaction. I don't think I can answer your question honestly until I know from where you heard this. I am not aware of any animosity towards the Yayo Dominion."

Lord Alkanphel
High Warlord of Lord Melkor's Imperium, First Counselor to Melkor Himself
http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~darion.c.smith/alkanphel1.jpg

Iesus Christi

16-01-2004, 10:24

"I have to say, this penis measure contest is rather pointless....glory and strength comes from victory!
and this alliance can bring that to us all! let us spill rivers of blood!
A trium and appointed leader model is the quickest way for this alliance to advance....."

Diminix

16-01-2004, 19:09

-hehe edit-

Vegana

16-01-2004, 20:38

[The part where you said about the black leader - racial purity in this thread, not the other.]

OOC: Diminix, if you read carefully you'll notice he never says anything about that, he's thinking it. So unless your mindreading skills are extremely good, you're still happily ignorant of Melkors racist views. :shock:

IC:

Slobodan raised his hand.
"I'm not sure of what you're talking of minister. But i'm sure that you can discuss Melkors disposition towards race with Mr. Alkanphel some other time. This is neither the time nor the place for such a discussion."

Wretchengard

16-01-2004, 22:52

"Getting back on topic," Overlord Bradley Steelblood said, after clearing his throat and getting the attention of the other delegates. "Personally, I am in favour of one leader and a council of three, as TGI Bob suggested. I don't think we need any more bureaucracy than is absolutely necessary in an alliance of this size, lest we become inefficient and slow to act."

Der Fuhrer Dyszel

16-01-2004, 23:07

OOC:
Sorry for the intrusion, but as an newer interested member of GDODAD, I would like to ask permission if it is possible that The Dictatorship send a representative to oversee the decisions made during this meeting. I would very much like to send someone to take part in this and if possible, make comments where they feel necessary.

I will leave the decision to you all. Thank you for your time.

Diminix

16-01-2004, 23:47

"No, there's not been much interaction between our nations but your people did question mine only a little while ago. You questioned the fact that our leaders were black and about The Reichs racial purities. I assure you my superiors have even spoken to The Reich Fuhrer himself about this matter and it is not blacks who we are against. This has been said to my emperor."

[The part where you said about the black leader - racial purity in this thread, not the other.]

[ooc: >ahem< um... That was discussed in a closed conference room attended by my Warlords--and no one else. There has been no public mention of it. I guess if you wanted to say spies found out that could work, but Alkanphel will deduce that you found out through spies and freak out and so forth.]

[Ahhhhhh...Ooook nevermind then. I'll just edit the post n forget dat shit ever happened :D]

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