NationStates Jolt Archive


EOTED Extends 'Hand of Friendship' To All Nations

Ma-tek
21-12-2003, 15:55
The Empress Rialla ux-Rihad II of the Empire of The Eternal Dawn speaking via INN Solar and several non-EOTED news agencies;

giving the 'Speech of the Great Apology';

Greetings, friends and those who consider themselves enemies of the Empire. Today, I, Empress Rialla ux-Rihad II of the Empire of the Eternal Dawn, extend the hand of friendship to All Nations of Earth and Beyond. May Eru (or, to prevent insult, whatever Deity or lack thereof that you worship or do not worship) smile upon you all.

For these past few months, our actions have been seen by many to be... erratic. This is true. It has been recognised by us, and efforts have been made to stem the tide of chaos that threatened to overwhelm the Empire. Yet with success, we find ourselves isolated and alone - in part. We are not alone, in truth; many of our allies, although remaining silent on many matters, are still in support of us, although not our actions.

It is indeed a sign of the times that the Empire of the Eternal Dawn is issuing an apology.

And we do.

To all and sundry, we issue this apology. We do not apologize for all actions; indeed, we apologize for none of our actions - none of our actions that were linked to honourable intent. Our actions that severed friendships, or damaged stability, or caused insult to former friends, or caused trouble amongst allies - these we apologize for.

We do not apologize for the liberation of Wolf Ville, or the demand for surrender from the rogue nuclear state of TROUSRS. These actions were necessary; the prevention of suffering in Wolf Ville was a task that none but us were willing to complete - and the People of Wolf Ville did not deserve to die in their thousands for the sick mind games of a mentally disturbed leader. The Free People of Wolf Ville now stand alongside the Empire, and to the world we pledge that their return to autonomy shall be swift and successful.

We do not apologize for the demand for the unconditional surrender of the rogue nuclear state of TROUSRS. TROUSRS launched nuclear and biological weapons at us. That, as I'm sure some will understand, is not an action that can be ignored. Pray tell what would have happened, had we not have demanded their surrender? Would millions now be dying, after yet another unprovoked WMD assault on a state by TROUSRS? We, to be true, have the means to defend ourselves from such attacks.

But what of those who do not? Are we to ignore the potential death toll of yet another act of irresponsibility by TROUSRS? No! We cannot. It would be impossible to justify such an action, should the worst case scenario response to such weakness occur.

But for other actions, such as the insults delivered the Triumvirate of Yut, we whole-heartedly apologize. We also apologize for the loss of life in EOTED campaigns directed under the rule of the previous leader of our great Empire, Emperor Si Ling I. All actions committed in contravention to international law by that Emperor, we issue an apology for.

And so I, Empress Rialla ux-Rihad II, today Decree that the Empire shall never again threaten use of arms without dire need; we shall never again look for conflict when peace is possible and lives are not at grave risk; we shall never again use lethal force where non-lethal force is possible. We shall seek peace where others seek war; we shall see light where others see only darkness; we shall be a candle of peace, to bring light to the darkness of conflict and plight; and we pledge to forever provide aid wherever needed.

It is true that some of these goals are already our goals; we do not use lethal force where non-lethal force is possible; we currently seek only peace; we already give aid wherever aid can be given. Yet by issuing the above Imperial Decree, I set in stone these objectives. Forevermore the Empire will aim for these goals; and none may repeal an Imperial Decree...

~ Excerpt provided by the Imperial Archives Division
Knootoss
21-12-2003, 16:14
OOC: well, from the related thread...
We applaud this initiative by the empire, and hope that it will work to increase peace and stability in the NS world. The government of Knootoss also hopes that this attempt at reconciliaton will be picked up by the Triumvirate of Yut

~Hans van Mierlo
Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Dutch Democratic Republic of Knootoss
imported_Burned Bones
21-12-2003, 20:38
Most inspiring words you express to us all and let me congratulate you on choosing the path of tranquility over chaos. It is to easy in these days of massed armies, blockades and cruel regimes to allow ones self to lose control, becoming what was once seen as the enemy.

I can only hope that others hear your words and take them not as just an expression of regret but also of great change within the heart of Empress Rialla ux-Rihad II, such changes are not easy yet they provide so much reward to the faithful.

The Eminent Maria Spector
Simpsons Springfield
21-12-2003, 20:44
Peace is the enemy of an empire. Just look what happened to the Romans after the Pax Romana. They were gradually slaughtered by un-Christianized barbarians. War is the friend of an empire, as is expansion. But, it's good news for Springfield knowing that EOTED will never try to conquer us! One potential invader down, 647 to go.

-Quimby
Xanthal
21-12-2003, 20:51
We have had no relations whatsoever with EOTED in the past, but you seem to be both wise and reasonable. If you should ever need the resources of the Republic, you need only ask.
21-12-2003, 20:56
Senator Patil Bell plays the message from EOTED to the Taligari Senate. "Huh? This Rialllua elf-chick is giving us a hand? how nice? Wait... SHES GIVING US HER HAND! OH MY GOD WHY WOULD ANYONE CUT THEIR HAND OFF AND GIVE IT TO US! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!"

*she screams hysterically for five minutes before she is taken out by security*

~The "Drunken" Senator, Patil Bell



"Why do the people elect such incompetent fools?"

~President Ali Yia Atreus; When she heard what happened
Ma-tek
21-12-2003, 21:00
Most inspiring words you express to us all and let me congratulate you on choosing the path of tranquility over chaos. It is to easy in these days of massed armies, blockades and cruel regimes to allow ones self to lose control, becoming what was once seen as the enemy.

I can only hope that others hear your words and take them not as just an expression of regret but also of great change within the heart of Empress Rialla ux-Rihad II, such changes are not easy yet they provide so much reward to the faithful.

The Eminent Maria Spector

We thank Burned Bones for their kind and warm words of what we hope we may assume is support.

~ Ambassador Dejure
Thelas
21-12-2003, 21:10
OOC: Did I just read that? Okay, the NS world is going crazy, Thelas and Knootoss signing a Mutual Defence Pact, EOTED appologizing, Siri and Melkor working together (for a short period, but they still worked together)

IC:



While Thelas has never been harmed by EOTED, in fact we supported EOTED in the AMF war, we accept the appology on the behalf of The Dread Imperium of Strak, who was forced to discontinue selling bombers due to EOTEDs'... agression, and who has gone into isolation in the Strak star system.

We hope that this brings new light onto EOTEDs' relations with the rest of the world.
21-12-2003, 21:26
We wonder that apology would include the attack on Milantos during the Melkor War, apparently made due to the perceived "treachery" of one of our allies, who still remains unnamed.
imported_Burned Bones
22-12-2003, 01:11
It is most definitely a sign of support, those who can see that they were wrong are those that can be trusted to act with an eye on the future as well as the present. Unfortunatly I feel that we have little to offer you except our support.

The Eminent Maria Spector
Vrak
22-12-2003, 01:21
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ENCRYPTED - LOW - international route: EOTED - route complete
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To: EOTED Diplomatic Corps
From: Vrak Diplomatic Corps
Subject: friendship

It is remarkable that the EOTED extends said hand to all nations. It would even be more remarkable if the EOTED would actually follow through on their initiatives, such as SCOJAN summit. Our diplomatic team has been waiting patienty for final protocols and we are ready to discuss important matters but have been left hanging.

We wonder if the "hand of friendship" would result in similar treatment.
Ma-tek
22-12-2003, 01:32
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ENCRYPTED - LOW - international route: EOTED - route complete
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To: EOTED Diplomatic Corps
From: Vrak Diplomatic Corps
Subject: friendship

It is remarkable that the EOTED extends said hand to all nations. It would even be more remarkable if the EOTED would actually follow through on their initiatives, such as SCOJAN summit. Our diplomatic team has been waiting patienty for final protocols and we are ready to discuss important matters but have been left hanging.

We wonder if the "hand of friendship" would result in similar treatment.

[OOC: Actually, completely nonsensical remarks in that threads by parties I shall not mention made me miss any post by Vrak. Also, a complete lack of response in general made me cease paying attention to it. I'll go look and post.]
Sketch
22-12-2003, 01:40
To all and sundry, we issue this apology. We do not apologize for all actions; indeed, we apologize for none of our actions - none of our actions that were linked to honourable intent. Our actions that severed friendships, or damaged stability, or caused insult to former friends, or caused trouble amongst allies - these we apologize for.

An apology indeed. If that is what an apology looks nowadays, I'd rather be insulted. To claim no fault in actions taken that were clearly deemed unacceptable by the international community, and then to go so far as think that lip service such as this would excuse you from your responsiblilty does nothing other than to show that you still do not care. The EOTED has carried on for generations carrying out it's despicable acts under the guise of "national policy", there is no reason to believe that this will suddenly change now. In fact, this renewed interest in the welfare of others; instead of self, is merely smoke and mirrors. In all due time we shall see the true EOTED re-emerge once again, and up to all the old tricks. We of Sketch will not be taken in by this pitiful attempt at trickery.

Your apologies and promises are nothing but hot air and empty words to us. You may fool everyone else, but not us. We know you too well.

Helena "Rose" Reizim
Speaker for the Ministry of Diplomatic Affairs

a public response to EOTED
22-12-2003, 01:47
Presented by Yruik Goffer, national spokesman for Googlafushi from the Temple of the Scorched Earth

We, Googlafushi, accept the apology from you, Empress Rialla ux-Rihad II of the Empire of The Eternal Dawn. We hope, as our own nationstate and along side our ally Beeazab, to strengthen relations with you. We know no past histroy, and you and your Empire are clean in our eyes. Will you accept us as an ally?

End broadcast
The Eastern Bloc
22-12-2003, 01:49
Icarus Traiden had read the note himself. While Arthur Guilder of the Farstation had receive the message, he felt it was of such an extreme importance that it warranted the Emperor's own viewing.

"Well, this doesn't come as a surprise." Traiden looked over the note once more with a quick glance.

Arthur Guilder -or his avatar rather- was slightly taken aback, "It didn't come as a surprise? The EOTED has been warmongering for as long as I can remember, how can this not come as a surprise? I would consider this note a representation of an EOTED I've never seen."

"You are correct in your assessment Arthur, this is a break from the usual. I think though that this was inevitable. A nation can only go so long alienating friends, allies, and enemies alike before something has to give. Either the nations in question take up arms, or they extend a hand. I knew the EOTED wouldn't let the former be the ultimate conclusion, they're to smart for that." Icarus sighed, and began to compose his own letter, " Arthur, I would like you to send this to the EOTED. This is probably our best opportunity to gain another friend."

Arthur nodded.

<<Begin Transmission>>

Greetings,

Your apology is accepted. While the Eurydian Republic has remained in the shadows concerning events involving your nation and others, we have been watching closely. It must be admitted that I didn’t care for some of the actions taken by your Empire. Whether these actions were caused by your administration as a whole or the former Emperor Si Ling I, I feel you must be forgiven. A wise man once said, "Those who cannot forgive others break the bridge over which they themselves must pass." (OOC: BTW that was Confucius, in case you were wondering.)

I hope this new show of friendship by your empire can be an eternal one. I also hope that friendship between the Eurydian Republic and the EOTED can be established and maintained.

- Emperor Icarus Traiden

<<End Transmission>>
Lietuveska
22-12-2003, 01:50
Again, as stated earlier involving the situation with the ToY, Lietuveska must express that it is humbled by the EOTED's willingness to become a peaceful partner in the world, and to progress the betterment of all. To apologize is to show true fiber, morally and politically, and Lietuvs firmly believe that. The EOTED is truly an Empire to respect and admire, and support from the Blått Hus will continue to be exerted so long as the EOTED continue on its current path.

Congratulations, and goodwill for the future.

http://home.earthlink.net/~chipcomp/mfa.jpg
Home and country, liberated shall we stay.
Ma-tek
25-12-2003, 01:48
Presented by Yruik Goffer, national spokesman for Googlafushi from the Temple of the Scorched Earth

We, Googlafushi, accept the apology from you, Empress Rialla ux-Rihad II of the Empire of The Eternal Dawn. We hope, as our own nationstate and along side our ally Beeazab, to strengthen relations with you. We know no past histroy, and you and your Empire are clean in our eyes. Will you accept us as an ally?

End broadcast

The Empire accepts all friendship from any hand extended in such a manner. We will, but we request that Googlafushi sends a delegation to our glorious capital city, Nenya, to discuss the specific terms of such an alliance. As a show of good faith and trust, the ITC Board of Control has agreed to bestow temporary MFN (Most Favoured Nation) trade status upon Googlafushi - pending the resolution of negotiations on the specifics of an alliance, of course.

~ Ambassador Dejure

[OOC: Please telegram me so I can give you information and specifics about the Empire so we can move forwards on this. Thanks!]
Ma-tek
25-12-2003, 01:53
Icarus Traiden had read the note himself. While Arthur Guilder of the Farstation had receive the message, he felt it was of such an extreme importance that it warranted the Emperor's own viewing.

"Well, this doesn't come as a surprise." Traiden looked over the note once more with a quick glance.

Arthur Guilder -or his avatar rather- was slightly taken aback, "It didn't come as a surprise? The EOTED has been warmongering for as long as I can remember, how can this not come as a surprise? I would consider this note a representation of an EOTED I've never seen."

"You are correct in your assessment Arthur, this is a break from the usual. I think though that this was inevitable. A nation can only go so long alienating friends, allies, and enemies alike before something has to give. Either the nations in question take up arms, or they extend a hand. I knew the EOTED wouldn't let the former be the ultimate conclusion, they're to smart for that." Icarus sighed, and began to compose his own letter, " Arthur, I would like you to send this to the EOTED. This is probably our best opportunity to gain another friend."

Arthur nodded.

<<Begin Transmission>>

Greetings,

Your apology is accepted. While the Eurydian Republic has remained in the shadows concerning events involving your nation and others, we have been watching closely. It must be admitted that I didn’t care for some of the actions taken by your Empire. Whether these actions were caused by your administration as a whole or the former Emperor Si Ling I, I feel you must be forgiven. A wise man once said, "Those who cannot forgive others break the bridge over which they themselves must pass." (OOC: BTW that was Confucius, in case you were wondering.)

I hope this new show of friendship by your empire can be an eternal one. I also hope that friendship between the Eurydian Republic and the EOTED can be established and maintained.

- Emperor Icarus Traiden

<<End Transmission>>

Wise words indeed, Highness. - The Empire would be glad to consider the Eurydian Republic a friend.

~ Ambassador Dejure

[OOC: Yep, it's brief, but I have little time at the moment. I'll pad it out a bit with the usual diplomatic padding, but seeing as that's the gist of what'll be said anyhow...

Anyway, I'll answer the last post by... uhm... can't remember offhand... tomorrow. A Merry Christmas to all!]
Ravea
25-12-2003, 02:07
Why thank you!

*shaked hand of Friendship*

Ravea hopes to become future friends and allies with EOTED.
Omz222
25-12-2003, 02:15
Omzian Democratic Federal Republic is delightened by this move to peace, stabilization, and friendship by the Empire of the Eternal Dawn, and applaud the Empress for her willingness to show her intention to move to peace and friendship, rather than using military force to terrorize the international community and delivering verbal insults to those who opposes her nation. As seen before, peace -- not firepower or force --is always the only option to bring stability and friendship. We are happy that the Empress now realizes the importance of this. Truly, this speech is inspiring, and shows the wisdom of the Empress.

With the continued cold relation between EOTED and Omzian Democratic Federal Republic, we also wish that diplomatic relations can be improved with this possible change of policy, between the Empire and the Federal Republic. As said, this relation does not benefit both. A possible improvement of relationship could benefit both diplomatically and economically, while making an assurance of peace, stabilization, and as said -- the hand of friendship.

May peace live on.

Foreign Affairs Ministry
Tarasovka
25-12-2003, 02:32
The Grand Duchy is very pleased to see that such an influencial and powerfull state as the Empire of the Eternal Dawn has decided to use the art of diplomacy instead of the power of weapons. As the old Taraskovyan proverb says:

"You never have enough friends, but one enemy is already too much."

We are more than secure in the fact that the leadership of the Empire of the Eternal Dawn will carry its promises to the fullest and wish you all our best wishes on this occasion.

~ High Council of Duchy.

[OOC: Well, at least it bumps the thread up :roll: ]
Santa Barbara
26-12-2003, 18:44
Empress Rialla ux-Rihad II

Allow me to first express my sorrow at the current state of affairs between the PrattCo Conglomerate and your Empire. It appears that the Conglomerate has unwittingly gotten our two peoples off on the wrong foot. However, you must understand that such things are always marred by political inconviniences brought on by a lack of healthy, friendly relations between states.

I wish to reverse that situation and bring about such a healthy relationship with your nation.

As President of the Federal Government of Santa Barbara, I am empowered to initiate trade with the EOTED, and would gladly accept your hand of friendship on behalf of the State. I believe the setting up of trade routes could help foster a mutually beneficial situation for both of us, and seal the deal, as they say.

I won't bother you with the petty details of the exact nature of trade-- we have many things to offer, having substantial sectors in mining, manufacturing, agriculture, commercial chemicals, resources, and of course, furniture restoration.

Perhaps, as both a part of this trade and a facilitation of it, the Federal Government would be allowed usage of your Earth-Mars transit?

In any case, I look forward to hearing your response on this matter, from one head of state to another.

Warmly,

Lord President Heinrid Abadas
Scolopendra
26-12-2003, 19:08
"Well...?" Razak scratches the back of his head, sitting idly against the corner of Speaker's desk.

"Hrrrrrm?" Speaker doesn't look up from the draft of the defense spending bill just sent from the Legislative Unit.

"Aren't we supposed to say something here, what with EGOT... er... EOTED doing this whole 'peace to the universe' thing?"

"What we have to say has already been said." Speaker nods to himself, then extends his right index claw. Dipping it in a bottle of ink on his desk, he signs his name to the bottom of the bill in the slashlike characters of tkzin'sutung, the flat of his claw adding a calligrapher's flair.

Razak winces. "I still think you didn't have to apologize; it was hardly your... personal fault."

Speaker chuckles softly, cleaning his claw in a small bit of acetone next to the ink before capping both bottles. "Yu know the actions of my subordinates are my responsibility, Colonel."

"Was it absolutely... necessary, though? You could've gotten Bob and I to apologize, and still be in the right."

The kzintosh looks up at Razak and smiles slightly, ends of his lips curling up. "No... I think my way is a better learning experience. I know how your minds work... and that you are stung more by apologies made by those you deem innocent than your own apologies. The concept of punishment is to prevent future recurrences, no?"

Razak sighs. "You're trickier than people give you credit for, y'know? Still, point taken. I'll do my best to be less childish in the future." He chuckles. "I still consider the fruit basket to be our ultimate diplomatic weapon, though."

"No argument." Speaker leans back, breath huffing from his nostrils in short laughs. "Next time, do not let vonKarma write the card. He does not tend towards subtlety."

"And by 'subtlety' you mean 'allowing a context so the other guy can read it in his own favor?'"

"Exactly."
Akilliam
26-12-2003, 19:11
Oh, the hand of friendship from Ma-tek? We would no sooner trust your nation, the den of liars, than we would a wolf. Your nation is malicious, vendictive, and always attempting to perfect your ill-devised designs. Your nation is one that attempts to impose dominance over all that come into your path. You provoke nations without cause. Your nation sets its forces, its talons, against the innocent.

And yet you extend a hand in peace? Akilliam would sooner cut off that hand than accept it. Make no mistake, nations of the world, Ma-tek and EOTED are liars. Ma-tek is the father of lies. If you trust in this fool and his vial minions, you will have slit your own throat. To trust this dog, this canis et furcifer, you will abandon all reason and logic.

No, we will not trust you dogs. Ma-tek, that is all your nation is filled with. Dogs and villains. That's all you are. We hope that in time your nation will fall like all others that have come before. To that end, the Empire would gladly facilitate your fall. Make no mistake, you whore of Babylon, we will oppose you at every turn. We will counter every move you make. You, you liars and dogs! I look forward to the day when our boot is pressed against your treacherous throat.

Fear the Eagles
Dictator Aelius
Lietuveska
27-12-2003, 03:05
Akilliam claims that the EOTED is guilty of many things, which it may be. But it has apologized, and sincerely, to the international community. What more convenient to tell a truth and mend relations with those who were formerly enemies?

Akilliam has viciously attacked the EOTED from head to foot, but claims that the EOTED is the true instigator. The hypocrisy displayed by Akilliam is truly laughable, and is regarded as the greatest folly seen by Lietuv officials in many years.

http://home.earthlink.net/~chipcomp/mfa.jpg
Reploid Productions
27-12-2003, 03:58
Storm Skypeace read the message with one eyebrow raised, scratching the side of his helmeted head in confusion. "An apology from EOTED? Think we should pass this one up the line?"

One of his fellow Diplomatic Corps lackeys glances over. "Naaah. We don't really have a damn thing t'do with 'em. Let Yut speak for the rest of us on this one."

"Yeah, Stormie, we've got comfortably neutral relations with those Eternal Dawn guys. Let's leave it that way."

"Actually, send it over to the Techcorp- maybe Akkard is looking for some new markets for the Bandits." Storm grins. "Those bikes ride like a dream... and perhaps they're snooty enough for high-class types!"

"Ha! If the Bandits aren't, the boats definately ARE!"

Discussion completed, Storm sticks a tag to the message and files it away to be sent out.
Akilliam
27-12-2003, 15:55
Response to Lietuveska:

There are matters here which predate your existance. There are issues here that plagued the world while your nation was still just a twinkle in the eye of some child. When your nation was still just a pup, EOTED was a problem.

So who are you, in the scheme of things, to berate Akilliam? How many times have you dealt with EOTED and felt the Angel of War hovering over head? Can you say 'Yes, I have experienced the barbarism of EOTED'? If not, then I advise you to move along.

Fear the Eagles
Dictator Aelius
Ma-tek
27-12-2003, 16:05
Oh, the hand of friendship from Ma-tek? We would no sooner trust your nation, the den of liars, than we would a wolf. Your nation is malicious, vendictive, and always attempting to perfect your ill-devised designs. Your nation is one that attempts to impose dominance over all that come into your path. You provoke nations without cause. Your nation sets its forces, its talons, against the innocent.

And yet you extend a hand in peace? Akilliam would sooner cut off that hand than accept it. Make no mistake, nations of the world, Ma-tek and EOTED are liars. Ma-tek is the father of lies. If you trust in this fool and his vial minions, you will have slit your own throat. To trust this dog, this canis et furcifer, you will abandon all reason and logic.

No, we will not trust you dogs. Ma-tek, that is all your nation is filled with. Dogs and villains. That's all you are. We hope that in time your nation will fall like all others that have come before. To that end, the Empire would gladly facilitate your fall. Make no mistake, you whore of Babylon, we will oppose you at every turn. We will counter every move you make. You, you liars and dogs! I look forward to the day when our boot is pressed against your treacherous throat.

Fear the Eagles
Dictator Aelius

With all due respect, Akilliam has no idea what it is talking about.

You provoke nations without cause. Your nation sets its forces, its talons, against the innocent.

Which is precisely why we are currently engaging in negotiations to produce a ceasefire in the Al Anbari War, and are actively advising the Aelosian regime to pursue a more peaceable and morally acceptable course with relation to the recent decree by the ShadowPrince of that state regarding the ejection of all humankind from Aelosia.

Which is precisely why we are one of very few states to utilize non-lethal arms, and why we have, on a number of occasions, worked to promote peaceful resolution of conflict; and why we, and we alone, on six seperate occasions, have prevented nuclear war between sovereign states. Which is also why the Joyful Liberation of Wolf Ville was carried through with virtually no civilian casualties; which is why we took far more casualties than the enemy, in our efforts to save their lives above and beyond our own. Yes, yes. Talons against the innocent. Hmm, I see your point.

That was sarcasm, by the way.

Make no mistake, nations of the world, Ma-tek and EOTED are liars. Ma-tek is the father of lies.

What an interesting choice of words. Are you not a member of the Reich, and is the Reich not allied with Morgoth, Father of Lies?

Yet we - who are surely far too young to be any such thing - are, in your mind, the father of lies. What grand webs of deceit Morgoth weaves.

We have never broken our word. Full stop.

Can you say the same?

~ Ambassador Relhatti
Ma-tek
27-12-2003, 16:08
We wonder that apology would include the attack on Milantos during the Melkor War, apparently made due to the perceived "treachery" of one of our allies, who still remains unnamed.

We see no need to apologize for a surgical strike which resulted in not a single civilian death. Yet - our apologies if the reasoning behind the attack was flawed; we do not percieve it to be so, but perhaps we do not have all the facts.

Then again... perhaps you do not have all the facts, either. Who can tell?

~ Ambassador Dejure
Ma-tek
27-12-2003, 16:24
Omzian Democratic Federal Republic is delightened by this move to peace, stabilization, and friendship by the Empire of the Eternal Dawn, and applaud the Empress for her willingness to show her intention to move to peace and friendship, rather than using military force to terrorize the international community and delivering verbal insults to those who opposes her nation. As seen before, peace -- not firepower or force --is always the only option to bring stability and friendship. We are happy that the Empress now realizes the importance of this. Truly, this speech is inspiring, and shows the wisdom of the Empress.

With the continued cold relation between EOTED and Omzian Democratic Federal Republic, we also wish that diplomatic relations can be improved with this possible change of policy, between the Empire and the Federal Republic. As said, this relation does not benefit both. A possible improvement of relationship could benefit both diplomatically and economically, while making an assurance of peace, stabilization, and as said -- the hand of friendship.

May peace live on.

Foreign Affairs Ministry

The Empire would be glad to discuss such terms with Omz. Perhaps a fitting venue would be found at the upcoming SCOJAN Summit?

~ Ambassador Dejure
Aelosia
27-12-2003, 16:29
"The EOTED offers a hand of friendship. We take it. Peace and friendship are never the weapons of cowards. I'm happy to see that someday our countries could share an everlasting friendly relationship, and that all our races forget about our differences and could live in peace".

ShadowPrince Kithail Hyral.
Ma-tek
27-12-2003, 16:33
Again, as stated earlier involving the situation with the ToY, Lietuveska must express that it is humbled by the EOTED's willingness to become a peaceful partner in the world, and to progress the betterment of all. To apologize is to show true fiber, morally and politically, and Lietuvs firmly believe that. The EOTED is truly an Empire to respect and admire, and support from the Blått Hus will continue to be exerted so long as the EOTED continue on its current path.

Congratulations, and goodwill for the future.

http://home.earthlink.net/~chipcomp/mfa.jpg
Home and country, liberated shall we stay.

The Empire is pleased at the continued shows of support by Lietuveska, and suggest that Lietuveska and the Empire could work to pursue peaceful friendship at the upcoming SCOJAN Summit; a setting most fitting for such a discussion, do you not think?

~ Ambassador Dejure
Ma-tek
27-12-2003, 16:41
The Grand Duchy is very pleased to see that such an influencial and powerfull state as the Empire of the Eternal Dawn has decided to use the art of diplomacy instead of the power of weapons. As the old Taraskovyan proverb says:

"You never have enough friends, but one enemy is already too much."

We are more than secure in the fact that the leadership of the Empire of the Eternal Dawn will carry its promises to the fullest and wish you all our best wishes on this occasion.

~ High Council of Duchy.

[OOC: Well, at least it bumps the thread up :roll: ]

The Empire thanks and praises the Taraskovyan High Council of Duchy for its continued support. May our paths forever entwine.

~ Ambassador Ingrati
Ma-tek
27-12-2003, 16:43
Empress Rialla ux-Rihad II

Allow me to first express my sorrow at the current state of affairs between the PrattCo Conglomerate and your Empire. It appears that the Conglomerate has unwittingly gotten our two peoples off on the wrong foot. However, you must understand that such things are always marred by political inconviniences brought on by a lack of healthy, friendly relations between states.

I wish to reverse that situation and bring about such a healthy relationship with your nation.

As President of the Federal Government of Santa Barbara, I am empowered to initiate trade with the EOTED, and would gladly accept your hand of friendship on behalf of the State. I believe the setting up of trade routes could help foster a mutually beneficial situation for both of us, and seal the deal, as they say.

I won't bother you with the petty details of the exact nature of trade-- we have many things to offer, having substantial sectors in mining, manufacturing, agriculture, commercial chemicals, resources, and of course, furniture restoration.

Perhaps, as both a part of this trade and a facilitation of it, the Federal Government would be allowed usage of your Earth-Mars transit?

In any case, I look forward to hearing your response on this matter, from one head of state to another.

Warmly,

Lord President Heinrid Abadas

The Empire would be most willing to discuss such matters, and suggests that the discussion ought take place at the upcoming SCOJAN Summit. A better venue I could not think of, friends.

~ Ambassador Dejure
Ma-tek
27-12-2003, 16:44
"The EOTED offers a hand of friendship. We take it. Peace and friendship are never the weapons of cowards. I'm happy to see that someday our countries could share an everlasting friendly relationship, and that all our races forget about our differences and could live in peace".

ShadowPrince Kithail Hyral.

The Empire pledges to remain a friend to the People of Aelosia for all eternity. May our friendship be the forge in which the tools of unified peace, stability, and justice are shaped!

~ Ambassador Ingrati
27-12-2003, 16:52
I admire your philosophy. yours is the path to true greatness and to true virtue.

I, myself use the same philosophy: Use arms only in defence
Akilliam
27-12-2003, 19:43
Ambassador Rehlatti,

Do you deny that your nation is bloodthirsty? You yourself listed a number of hostilities that I wasn't even aware of. You futher my point without my intentions. You have proven that your nation is one of hawks, not of doves. Your nation is one of violence.

But what about Akilliam? What accusations can you level against us? We have only fought in two major wars: The Amerigo Slaver War, and the war between Akilliam and the Reich. Two! We are a nation that favors peace. You, as you just listed, favor war. Do not attempt to deny it. Do not attempt to brainwash the world with you sweet nothings. Do not try to hide behind the old adage "We didn't kill many civilians". War is war, and you still killed.

And what of our former alliance with the Reich? This only shows your prejudice against our nation. We fought for peace while we were in the Reich. We averted potential conflicts between SATO and the Reich. Akilliam fought to maintain peace. But no, because of your prejudice, you would call us warmongers. But that is all for nought: Akilliam is no longer allied with the Reich or Arda. You, only you, have no idea what you speak of. You attempted to provoke a conflict between your cronies and the Reich. You! How many other conflicts have you tried to instigate just for the sake of violence? Why don't we see a full disclosure? Why? Because I doubt your nation even knows what all conflicts it has attempted to start, or has prosecuted.

So you see, even when Akilliam was in the Reich we weren't: we didn't follow Reich policy. We went against the hawks. But that is not the matter here! You, you must answer the accusations. You must prove the lies to be true. We have leveled accusations against you, and you sputter. You point the finger of blame all around. And what will you do when you are left alone, and there is no one left to blame but your own bloodthirsty ways?

Answer the accusations you dog! Answer the questions or you will learn the meaning of aelia iacta est.

Fear the Eagles
Dictator Aelius
Euroslavia
27-12-2003, 20:02
Ambassador Rehlatti,

Do you deny that your nation is bloodthirsty? You yourself listed a number of hostilities that I wasn't even aware of. You futher my point without my intentions. You have proven that your nation is one of hawks, not of doves. Your nation is one of violence.

But what about Akilliam? What accusations can you level against us? We have only fought in two major wars: The Amerigo Slaver War, and the war between Akilliam and the Reich. Two! We are a nation that favors peace. You, as you just listed, favor war. Do not attempt to deny it. Do not attempt to brainwash the world with you sweet nothings. Do not try to hide behind the old adage "We didn't kill many civilians". War is war, and you still killed.

And what of our former alliance with the Reich? This only shows your prejudice against our nation. We fought for peace while we were in the Reich. We averted potential conflicts between SATO and the Reich. Akilliam fought to maintain peace. But no, because of your prejudice, you would call us warmongers. But that is all for nought: Akilliam is no longer allied with the Reich or Arda. You, only you, have no idea what you speak of. You attempted to provoke a conflict between your cronies and the Reich. You! How many other conflicts have you tried to instigate just for the sake of violence? Why don't we see a full disclosure? Why? Because I doubt your nation even knows what all conflicts it has attempted to start, or has prosecuted.

So you see, even when Akilliam was in the Reich we weren't: we didn't follow Reich policy. We went against the hawks. But that is not the matter here! You, you must answer the accusations. You must prove the lies to be true. We have leveled accusations against you, and you sputter. You point the finger of blame all around. And what will you do when you are left alone, and there is no one left to blame but your own bloodthirsty ways?

Answer the accusations you dog! Answer the questions or you will learn the meaning of aelia iacta est.

Fear the Eagles
Dictator Aelius


I'm sorry, but you are quite pathetic. Ma-Tek has a lot of guts to swallow his pride and apologize for his actions, and for that, we see true honor in his name. Every nation makes mistakes. Ma-Tek does not speak down to you, so why do you feel like you can do this to him? At least speak to him like a normal human being rather than calling him a "dog."
Ma-tek
27-12-2003, 20:15
Ambassador Rehlatti,

Do you deny that your nation is bloodthirsty? You yourself listed a number of hostilities that I wasn't even aware of. You futher my point without my intentions. You have proven that your nation is one of hawks, not of doves. Your nation is one of violence.

But what about Akilliam? What accusations can you level against us? We have only fought in two major wars: The Amerigo Slaver War, and the war between Akilliam and the Reich. Two! We are a nation that favors peace. You, as you just listed, favor war. Do not attempt to deny it. Do not attempt to brainwash the world with you sweet nothings. Do not try to hide behind the old adage "We didn't kill many civilians". War is war, and you still killed.

And what of our former alliance with the Reich? This only shows your prejudice against our nation. We fought for peace while we were in the Reich. We averted potential conflicts between SATO and the Reich. Akilliam fought to maintain peace. But no, because of your prejudice, you would call us warmongers. But that is all for nought: Akilliam is no longer allied with the Reich or Arda. You, only you, have no idea what you speak of. You attempted to provoke a conflict between your cronies and the Reich. You! How many other conflicts have you tried to instigate just for the sake of violence? Why don't we see a full disclosure? Why? Because I doubt your nation even knows what all conflicts it has attempted to start, or has prosecuted.

So you see, even when Akilliam was in the Reich we weren't: we didn't follow Reich policy. We went against the hawks. But that is not the matter here! You, you must answer the accusations. You must prove the lies to be true. We have leveled accusations against you, and you sputter. You point the finger of blame all around. And what will you do when you are left alone, and there is no one left to blame but your own bloodthirsty ways?

Answer the accusations you dog! Answer the questions or you will learn the meaning of aelia iacta est.

Fear the Eagles
Dictator Aelius

Hollow accusations require no response. I see no other finger pointing; I see no support for the claims of Akilliam; I see no rattling of sabres at the side of Akilliam; I see no agreement with the rabid ravings of a state that claims peaceful intent and has the motto 'Fear the Eagles'. Fear? What is fear, if not an extension of violence? What is the eagle, if not a bird of prey? What is a dictator, if not an inspirer of terror and violent hatred? Pray tell, how many dictatorships, in truth, inspire peace and stability?

Very few indeed.

And despite claims by Akilliam to the contrary, the Empire long attempted to instigate peace between the Reich and SATO. We may detest the Reich with all our being - for they are hateful, and full of ignorant rage and violent zest - but that did not stop us from attempting to negotiate with the more level heads amongst them. Indeed, we were in negotiation with Reichskampfen, moving towards friendship - when elements inside the Reich eliminated the rightful ruler of that country, and installed their own puppet.

What claim has Akilliam to unleash such unbridled spite and hatred upon us? None!

Yet we do not issue threats of violence, nor do we react to their clear aggression: we are patient, and calm, and we shall continue to be thus.

Come, now, Akilliam. Let us be friends. Quarreling is for children; are we not adults?

~ Ambassador Relhatti
Akilliam
27-12-2003, 21:41
I would sooner cut off my own hand than be a 'friend' of yours. Who are you to say Akilliam is this or that? Who are you to deny allegations you yourself admitted to. Have you so soon forgotten the horrors you have inflicted upon us all? Have you so soon forgotten what you yourself just admitted to? And still you offer the dove.

But I will answer your allegations. I will respond to your accusations. Do you know what our term dicatator means? It means he who dictates! With Imperator Cominus currently impaired, the Senate voted - per the Laws of Akilliam - to appoint someone Dictator for a finite period. Do not attempt to compare me to some third world madman or despot. The laws and rights that existed in the Empire under Cominus still exist under me.

You ask about the Imperial phrase 'Fear the Eagles'. It means exactly what it says. Our Legions carry Standards with an engraved eagle showing clearly. So, if I need explain more, when you see the Eagles coming over the hills before you - you should rightly fear. We reserve that phrase for special nations, such as yours. It is no more than distinguishing friend from foe.

So now we have revealed ourselves, come clean about accusations you would imply are insidious. Now, answer our questions. Can you name all the unwarranted actions you have taken? Can you guess as to how many innocent civilians you have killed? You are trying my patience. Either answer the questions or arm your weapons.

Surely someone so wise as you, surely you realize that even a sincere apology must come with answers. In our case, it is not enough that you say 'sorry', and the world turns a blind eye. If you want the Empire to even consider what you have said, blasphemous or not, you must start answering questions. Answer them or be denied.

Fear the Eagles
Dictator Aelius
Aelosia
27-12-2003, 21:44
"I think the EOTED is not an evil country, or a bloodthristy one. It's just a proud nation, which sometimes fall in aloofness. As all of us do sometimes. They're nationalists, but not imperialists. Although sometimes pride can be understood as hatred, a wise ruler must see the difference"

ShadowPrince Kithail Hyral.
Lietuveska
27-12-2003, 22:10
The EOTED is clearly trying to repair what has been done in the past, and we will not be told to move on by a nation so willing to upset a true apology that has been meant to restore order to the world. The EOTED has apologized sincerely, and we will continue to stand by such a nation that is sorry for its past actions, and is committed to undoing what it has done.

On a lighter note, we request that EOTED officials telegram our nation when the SCOJAN Summit begins, noting that we do not know what SCOJAN is.

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Ma-tek
27-12-2003, 22:13
I would sooner cut off my own hand than be a 'friend' of yours. Who are you to say Akilliam is this or that? Who are you to deny allegations you yourself admitted to. Have you so soon forgotten the horrors you have inflicted upon us all? Have you so soon forgotten what you yourself just admitted to? And still you offer the dove.

But I will answer your allegations. I will respond to your accusations. Do you know what our term dicatator means? It means he who dictates! With Imperator Cominus currently impaired, the Senate voted - per the Laws of Akilliam - to appoint someone Dictator for a finite period. Do not attempt to compare me to some third world madman or despot. The laws and rights that existed in the Empire under Cominus still exist under me.

You ask about the Imperial phrase 'Fear the Eagles'. It means exactly what it says. Our Legions carry Standards with an engraved eagle showing clearly. So, if I need explain more, when you see the Eagles coming over the hills before you - you should rightly fear. We reserve that phrase for special nations, such as yours. It is no more than distinguishing friend from foe.

So now we have revealed ourselves, come clean about accusations you would imply are insidious. Now, answer our questions. Can you name all the unwarranted actions you have taken? Can you guess as to how many innocent civilians you have killed? You are trying my patience. Either answer the questions or arm your weapons.

Surely someone so wise as you, surely you realize that even a sincere apology must come with answers. In our case, it is not enough that you say 'sorry', and the world turns a blind eye. If you want the Empire to even consider what you have said, blasphemous or not, you must start answering questions. Answer them or be denied.

Fear the Eagles
Dictator Aelius

We have taken no 'unwarranted' actions. All actions have a cause; every action has a reaction, and so our actions are, in fact, reactions to the actions of others. Some have been incorrect; others not so. The planned invasion of Automagfreek was in error; yet Eru destroyed AMF when it resisted. So who may say what was correct?

As for the killing of innocent civilians... perhaps ten, or twenty? Perhaps at most a few hundred.

We only use lethal arms against naval (surface) or naval (space) targets. If there are civilians aboard military warships, then that is the fault of the military in question - not ours.

If you wish other accusations answered, we suggest you accuse. We will not blindly refer to events passed long since; if you wish answers, ask.

And I do believe I detected a hint of threat in your tone. It would be most wise of you to discontinue any such threatening behaviour.

~ Ambassador Dejure
Ma-tek
27-12-2003, 22:36
The EOTED is clearly trying to repair what has been done in the past, and we will not be told to move on by a nation so willing to upset a true apology that has been meant to restore order to the world. The EOTED has apologized sincerely, and we will continue to stand by such a nation that is sorry for its past actions, and is committed to undoing what it has done.

On a lighter note, we request that EOTED officials telegram our nation when the SCOJAN Summit begins, noting that we do not know what SCOJAN is.

http://home.earthlink.net/~chipcomp/mfa.jpg

[OOC: SCOJAN thread is here: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=104940&highlight=

The Summit hasn't started yet; I'm waiting on people to say they're coming, first.]
Akilliam
27-12-2003, 23:07
You seem to forget, Ambassador, that little affair with the Reich. Do you not remember when Ma-tek put satellites in orbit of the Reich? Do you not remember that it was specifically done as a threatening action? Did you know that Akilliam, at least, had no prior contact up to that point? If you acknowledge that last point, how then can you claim this "action-reaction" business? It is folly!

In case you didn't know it, that was a question. So I'll repeat it with added emphasis to make sure it lodges to that void inside your head. If you acknwoledge that Akilliam had no prior contact with you, how then do you justify your claims that all you've done has been "action-reaction" situations?

You say that in all your actions, or reactions to humor you, that you've killed at most one hundred innocent civilians. So here comes question two: Do you honestly expect anyone to believe such a thing? On second thought, ignore that question. Let me rephrase it. How many people have you honestly killed in all your 'reactions'? I can't believe it is at the most one hundred. Even the most precise weapons systems can go wrong. There are no perfect systems. And considering all the actions you've taken, statistically, you must have killed more than one hundred. So there is another lie on your part.

Now Ambassador, we can continue playing this game of semantics until we're blue in the face. You can continue to keep dodging questions, and continue to keep giving fork tongued answers. You can do that, or you can come clean of all your past crimes against nations, against people, and against the world. Either way, it doesn't really matter to The Empire of Akilliam. We don't expect any results from a cave of whoremongers.

And, my pitchfork toting friend, the Empire will not make threats

Fear the Eagles
Dictator Aelius
Ma-tek
28-12-2003, 00:16
Ma-tek
28-12-2003, 00:19
You seem to forget, Ambassador, that little affair with the Reich. Do you not remember when Ma-tek put satellites in orbit of the Reich? Do you not remember that it was specifically done as a threatening action? Did you know that Akilliam, at least, had no prior contact up to that point? If you acknowledge that last point, how then can you claim this "action-reaction" business? It is folly!

In case you didn't know it, that was a question. So I'll repeat it with added emphasis to make sure it lodges to that void inside your head. If you acknwoledge that Akilliam had no prior contact with you, how then do you justify your claims that all you've done has been "action-reaction" situations?

You say that in all your actions, or reactions to humor you, that you've killed at most one hundred innocent civilians. So here comes question two: Do you honestly expect anyone to believe such a thing? On second thought, ignore that question. Let me rephrase it. How many people have you honestly killed in all your 'reactions'? I can't believe it is at the most one hundred. Even the most precise weapons systems can go wrong. There are no perfect systems. And considering all the actions you've taken, statistically, you must have killed more than one hundred. So there is another lie on your part.

Now Ambassador, we can continue playing this game of semantics until we're blue in the face. You can continue to keep dodging questions, and continue to keep giving fork tongued answers. You can do that, or you can come clean of all your past crimes against nations, against people, and against the world. Either way, it doesn't really matter to The Empire of Akilliam. We don't expect any results from a cave of whoremongers.

And, my pitchfork toting friend, the Empire will not make threats

Fear the Eagles
Dictator Aelius

It's not a matter of 'accuracy'. It's a simple matter of potentiality. As we do not use lethal arms whenever a civilian population is present, it becomes quite, quite nigh on impossible for us to kill civilians. Even an infant would understand that.

As for no contact with Akilliam... why, how arrogant of Akilliam to assume that that action was aimed at them! We had no gripe with Akilliam. We were aiming that action at the Reich - and that action was one of many taken by the temporarily unstable Government. In case Akilliam was not aware, the Empire was recently subject to an internal attempt at a coup. Instability meant that some actions taken were not per se a part of EOTED foreign policy; however... I must admit that it is currently EOTED policy to be 'anti-Reich'. The Reich is aligned with the Arda; Ardan hands were responsible for fifty million deaths in the Empire during the EOTED-Dor Daedoloth War earlier this year. You will excuse us if we are not too thrilled at the prospect of two enemies uniting.

I repeat again: the Empire does not kill civilians. We are by far the most careful when it comes to strategic and surgical strikes. We use force with all possible care - in the air and on the ground. At sea and in space, non-lethal arms are useless, and the only viable targets are military targets anyway - so the claims of Akilliam are utterly baseless.

We tire of this constant rhetoric, and note that we are being infinitely patient in making an effort to answer these baseless claims.

~ Ambassador Dejure
Akilliam
28-12-2003, 01:23
Oh, do you not realize that by aiming at the Reich, you aimed at Akilliam? By threatening the Reich, you threatened Akilliam? No, Akilliam was not the Reich, but by acting against the Reich you acted against Akilliam.

But you seem to be ignorant of a few things. I'll repeat this for you, because I think it bears repeating: Akilliam is not in the Reich anymore. Is that clear enough for you, or should repeat it for you? Akilliam is not in the Reich anymore.

Your excuse for threatening the Reich was what?
You will excuse us if we are not too thrilled at the prospect of two enemies uniting.
'..if we are not...' - that denotes present tense. You are currently afraid of 'two enemies uniting'. Well, let me break it to you. They were well united before you made your little threatening action! They were already bound by the Reich-Arda Pact before you came along! Your justification, even now, has been tried and found wanting. But I'm not done yet! You can not, under any law or justification, threaten a nation or power merely because it doesn't 'thrill' you. Things don't work like that.

But it gets better. When you made that threatening action, you were not just late, you were years behind the times. The Reich had already faultered by that time and was not much of a concern to any stalwart power. Perhaps your frail nation felt threatened by another frail power? Is that what the action was all about? Impotence? Infirmities? Penis envy perhaps?

I would also like to note that you 'grow tired of this constant rhetoric', yet, in the same breath, are 'infinitely patient'. Fine! But be hot or cold. You can't have it both ways. You have two options: Either stick this out and hope the Empire forgives you, or leave the negotiating table. Is this a negotiating table? No, but it's the closest you're going to get.

And if you leave, you can consider the deal finalized.

Fear the Eagles
Dictator Aelius
Ma-tek
28-12-2003, 19:50
Oh, do you not realize that by aiming at the Reich, you aimed at Akilliam? By threatening the Reich, you threatened Akilliam? No, Akilliam was not the Reich, but by acting against the Reich you acted against Akilliam.

But you seem to be ignorant of a few things. I'll repeat this for you, because I think it bears repeating: Akilliam is not in the Reich anymore. Is that clear enough for you, or should repeat it for you? Akilliam is not in the Reich anymore.

Your excuse for threatening the Reich was what?
You will excuse us if we are not too thrilled at the prospect of two enemies uniting.
'..if we are not...' - that denotes present tense. You are currently afraid of 'two enemies uniting'. Well, let me break it to you. They were well united before you made your little threatening action! They were already bound by the Reich-Arda Pact before you came along! Your justification, even now, has been tried and found wanting. But I'm not done yet! You can not, under any law or justification, threaten a nation or power merely because it doesn't 'thrill' you. Things don't work like that.

But it gets better. When you made that threatening action, you were not just late, you were years behind the times. The Reich had already faultered by that time and was not much of a concern to any stalwart power. Perhaps your frail nation felt threatened by another frail power? Is that what the action was all about? Impotence? Infirmities? Penis envy perhaps?

I would also like to note that you 'grow tired of this constant rhetoric', yet, in the same breath, are 'infinitely patient'. Fine! But be hot or cold. You can't have it both ways. You have two options: Either stick this out and hope the Empire forgives you, or leave the negotiating table. Is this a negotiating table? No, but it's the closest you're going to get.

And if you leave, you can consider the deal finalized.

Fear the Eagles
Dictator Aelius

It is strange, but Akilliam seems to believe that their friendship is, for some reason, important. Truly, it is a great shame to see a leader suffering such grand delusions. What affected the Reich once affected Akilliam, and so an 'aggressive' act aimed at the entirety of the Reich was, in fact, aimed at Akilliam. That, I'm afraid, is chop-logic.

'Years' behind the times? My good man, the Empire has not existed for 'years'. We are only now approaching our first anniversary of existance. I fail, therefore, to see how the action could possibly have been 'years' behind the times.

Lastly, I issue a warning: do not insult Nenyan fertility. We do not take such insulting actions lightly. Do not overstep the mark, child.

Finally, we lose interest in this discussion. Akilliam may resume this conversation at a later date; say, when Akilliam's current leader reaches maturity?

~ Ambassador Dejure
Akilliam
29-12-2003, 02:35
That, my friend, is not chop-logic. Ask any military alliance. They will, without a doubt, have a clause that says something like "an attack on one nation is an attack on all nations". If you attack one nation, you have in essence attacked them all. Now that works backwards as well. If you attack a military alliance, you have in essence attacked every member. Ask SATO, ask GDODAD, ask the BDI. They will concur with my position. So you see, your attack on the Reich was an attack on Akilliam. When a man is attacked, his entire body is attacked. Not just his arm, or his leg. The whole man is attacked. Do you see the logic now?

But the Empire now considers this matter settled. We have come to realize that there is no negotiation with your kind. You can continue making invalid excuses. You can continue gearing up for war under false pretenses.

We will have no more to do with you or your kind.

Fear the Eagles
Dictator Aelius
Ma-tek
30-12-2003, 19:38
That, my friend, is not chop-logic. Ask any military alliance. They will, without a doubt, have a clause that says something like "an attack on one nation is an attack on all nations". If you attack one nation, you have in essence attacked them all. Now that works backwards as well. If you attack a military alliance, you have in essence attacked every member. Ask SATO, ask GDODAD, ask the BDI. They will concur with my position. So you see, your attack on the Reich was an attack on Akilliam. When a man is attacked, his entire body is attacked. Not just his arm, or his leg. The whole man is attacked. Do you see the logic now?

But the Empire now considers this matter settled. We have come to realize that there is no negotiation with your kind. You can continue making invalid excuses. You can continue gearing up for war under false pretenses.

We will have no more to do with you or your kind.

Fear the Eagles
Dictator Aelius

Oh, the pain. I fear we will all die of sorrow at this great loss.

~ Ambassador Relhatti