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How does my army look to you? Its incomplete because I want to know if all this stuff is possible first.
Ground Troops:

10,000,000 normal infantry, Blast tech trooper rifle

30,000 special infantry(Kinda like Rangers) Corprate assult rifle.

1,000 Manslayers(The Cream of the crop) RC-P90, Shuriken, Fukiya, Ashiko, Kantana, Wakizashi, Claymore(Sword)(Optional),and a Scottish Dirk.

Total ground troops active: 10,031,000.

Navy:

1 Eclipse class Star Destroyer.

50 Sovereign-class Super Star Destroyers

100 Executor-class Super Star Destroyer

200 Imperial Mark II-class Super Star Destroyer

5000 lambada class shuttles

400,000 I-com 65 x-wings

5000 y-wings

8000 a wings

60,000 Tie/d.

600 X-m1 missle boat

1,000 Gallofree meduim trasport

1000 Hoersch-Kessel Drive Trade Federation Battleship transport.

Better or worse?

400 Executor-class Super Star Destroyer

2000 Executor-class Super Star Destroyer

Not sure why these are separated, since they appear to be the same class? Anyway, 2,000+ SSDs? The Empire only had, at most, 10 during its rule.

400 Executor-class Super Star Destroyer

2000 Executor-class Super Star Destroyer

Not sure why these are separated, since they appear to be the same class? Anyway, 2,000+ SSDs? The Empire only had, at most, 10 during its rule. thank you for catching that. I like um.

But the cost of building and maintaining them would be enormous.

You should have more fighters; I don't know the exact fighter complements for SSDs, but I'd imagine it would be 5 or 6 squadrons each.

But the cost of building and maintaining them would be enormous. True but we love our army.


You should have more fighters; I don't know the exact fighter complements for SSDs, but I'd imagine it would be 5 or 6 squadrons each. Also true. Any type we should look into?

Obviously the standard fighter complement would be TIE Fighters, Interceptors, and Bombers. TIE Fighters would make up roughly 40% of this, Bombers and Interceptors 30% each.

If you were to use Y-Wings, etc instead of TIEs, you would need to make modifications to the hangar bays of your Star Destroyers, as they are designed to hold and launch TIEs.

Obviously the standard fighter complement would be TIE Fighters, Interceptors, and Bombers. TIE Fighters would make up roughly 40% of this, Bombers and Interceptors 30% each.

If you were to use Y-Wings, etc instead of TIEs, you would need to make modifications to the hangar bays of your Star Destroyers, as they are designed to hold and launch TIEs. thank you. But they hold both ties(On the racks) and other(On the floor)

The Empire had four Super Class Star Destroyers

Executer, Iron Fist and Venom, and Lusaykina (sp?) was NOT in service utnil AFTER the fall of Coruscant, as it was Israds personal "Escape Shuttle" (heh)

the fighter comploment of an SSD is 2 wing or 12 squdrans, or 144 fighters and 200 other support ships

The TIE Defender is reguarded as the best starfigher ever, as t surpasses anything in the Republics or Imperials Navy Starfighter Fleet, though they are expensive, heres the low down

Two Ion Cannons
Four Laser Cannons
Two Concussion Missle Launchers
and a tractor bean

((incase you meant Tie Defender by TIE/d, that stands for Droid Controlled TIE Fighters NOT TIE Defender))

Only 103,100 troops.Thats kinda small for your nations size.

Only 103,100 troops.Thats kinda small for your nations size.

yeah, and assuming you had the full infintry comploment on your SSD's ONE holds 38,000 troops.....assuming you have it fully garriassoned by infintry

((and, i would give your RReg Infinttry the Blastecs and give the Rangers the Coperate Sectors Blaster Assult Rifles, a thought...))

Ok, time for a play-by-play.

How does my army look to you? Its incomplete because I want to know if all this stuff is possible first.
Ground Troops:

100,000 normal infantry, Ak-97s

Christ man, you have all that and 100,000 infantry? Jeez. Decrease your Fleet numbers and put some men on the Infantry. I could easily send in a ground invasion force and conquer your country.


3,000 special infantry(Kinda like Rangers) Blast-tech trooper rifle.

100 Manslayers(The Cream of the crop) RC-P90, Shuriken, Fukiya, Ashiko, Kantana, Wakizashi, Claymore(Sword)(Optional),and a Scottish Dirk.

Total ground troops active: 103,100.
*Badly drawn yellow circle* Again, Good god, man! Better up the Ground troop numbers


Navy:

1 Eclipse class Star Destroyer.

100 Sovereign-class Super Star Destroyers

300 Executor-class Super Star Destroyer
*Another badly drawn yellow circle*
God DAMN, no Economy could possible supply enough cash flow to maintain ALL of those vessels. My Chaos-Class and Liberty-Class Capitol ships are about 9km long, and I have less than 50, a Frightening economy with a multi-trillion dollar military budget and I can barely scrape off enough cash to buy more weapons. And why only one regular Sd and 400 SSD's? I have 2 1km SuperDestroyers and 4 1km Spacecruisers per Capitol ship. Might wanna make those numbers smaller and reversed, like 100 Eclipses, 25 Sovereigns and 25 Executors. You'll still be flat-f*cking-broke, but you'll be flat-f*cking-broke without godmodding.


2000 Imperial Mark II-class Super Star Destroyer

*Yep, another circle*
Again, holy shit.


5000 lambada class shuttles

400,000 I-com 65 x-wings

5000 y-wings

8000 a wings

*Badly drawn Star*
Good so far.


600,000,000 Tie/d.

*You get the point*
Whoa, pause it. 600,000,000 Ties? Christ, that's 1 Tie for every two citizens in your nation. WAAAAY too much. To quote Slaggy, or whoever said it, that's a "metric f*ckton" of fighters. Refer to the Budget lecture above.


600 X-m1 missle boat

1,000 Gallofree meduim trasport

1000 Hoersch-Kessel Drive Trade Federation Battleship transport.

Just fix those errors and you're fine.

No one can outdo our Super Duper Pooper Star Engulfing Destroyer fleet! We spit on your 'army' as you so ignorantly call it.

-Quimby

Not even the Galactic Empire had that many Super Star Destroyers.

If its possible? Not if you ask me. You couldn't even build a TIE fighter in my opinion.

Oh and by the way, is this your army, you say? You have a very tiny army with no vehicles, and a space navy that would make Palpatine green with envy.

Not even the Galactic Empire had that many Super Star Destroyers. and look where it got him.

If its possible? Not if you ask me. You couldn't even build a TIE fighter in my opinion. How is that?

Oh and by the way, is this your army, you say? You have a very tiny army with no vehicles, and a space navy that would make Palpatine green with envy. Love the navy.

Not even the Galactic Empire had that many Super Star Destroyers. and look where it got him.

If its possible? Not if you ask me. You couldn't even build a TIE fighter in my opinion. How is that?

Oh and by the way, is this your army, you say? You have a very tiny army with no vehicles, and a space navy that would make Palpatine green with envy. Love the navy.

"Love the Navy" and "Look where it got him" won't cut it. Every year, when Budget time rolls around and your entire GDP is blown away maintaining your Navy, complete chaos will ensnare the nation. People will rebel, your national economy will plunge, your navy will fall into Disrepair. You're basically pissing your budget away while covering up your godmods with repetitive phrases like "Love the Navy".

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Ok, time for a play-by-play.

How does my army look to you? Its incomplete because I want to know if all this stuff is possible first.
Ground Troops:

100,000 normal infantry, Ak-97s

Christ man, you have all that and 100,000 infantry? Jeez. Decrease your Fleet numbers and put some men on the Infantry. I could easily send in a ground invasion force and conquer your country. fine.


3,000 special infantry(Kinda like Rangers) Blast-tech trooper rifle.

100 Manslayers(The Cream of the crop) RC-P90, Shuriken, Fukiya, Ashiko, Kantana, Wakizashi, Claymore(Sword)(Optional),and a Scottish Dirk.

Total ground troops active: 103,100.
*Badly drawn yellow circle* Again, Good god, man! Better up the Ground troop numbers Alright, okay.


Navy:

1 Eclipse class Star Destroyer.

100 Sovereign-class Super Star Destroyers

300 Executor-class Super Star Destroyer
*Another badly drawn yellow circle*
God DAMN, no Economy could possible supply enough cash flow to maintain ALL of those vessels. My Chaos-Class and Liberty-Class Capitol ships are about 9km long, and I have less than 50, a Frightening economy with a multi-trillion dollar military budget and I can barely scrape off enough cash to buy more weapons. And why only one regular Sd and 400 SSD's? I have 2 1km SuperDestroyers and 4 1km Spacecruisers per Capitol ship. Might wanna make those numbers smaller and reversed, like 100 Eclipses, 25 Sovereigns and 25 Executors. You'll still be flat-f*cking-broke, but you'll be flat-f*cking-broke without godmodding. 100 Eclipse Class? What the hell? Thats the biggest star Destroyer ever built! There is a reason I down sized the ground forces. (So I could build up the navy)


2000 Imperial Mark II-class Super Star Destroyer

*Yep, another circle*
Again, holy shit.
Love my navy.



5000 lambada class shuttles

400,000 I-com 65 x-wings

5000 y-wings

8000 a wings

*Badly drawn Star*
Good so far. Gotta get one right.



600,000,000 Tie/d.

*You get the point*
Whoa, pause it. 600,000,000 Ties? Christ, that's 1 Tie for every two citizens in your nation. WAAAAY too much. To quote Slaggy, or whoever said it, that's a "metric f*ckton" of fighters. Refer to the Budget lecture above. They are droid controled. They need swarms in oder to surrvie. But I'll look into downsizeing.



600 X-m1 missle boat

1,000 Gallofree meduim trasport

1000 Hoersch-Kessel Drive Trade Federation Battleship transport.

Just fix those errors and you're fine.[/quote] All right then.

Not even the Galactic Empire had that many Super Star Destroyers. and look where it got him.

If its possible? Not if you ask me. You couldn't even build a TIE fighter in my opinion. How is that?

Oh and by the way, is this your army, you say? You have a very tiny army with no vehicles, and a space navy that would make Palpatine green with envy. Love the navy.

"Love the Navy" and "Look where it got him" won't cut it. Every year, when Budget time rolls around and your entire GDP is blown away maintaining your Navy, complete chaos will ensnare the nation. People will rebel, your national economy will plunge, your navy will fall into Disrepair. You're basically pissing your budget away while covering up your godmods with repetitive phrases like "Love the Navy". FINE! I'LL MAKE CHANGES!

Not even the Galactic Empire had that many Super Star Destroyers. and look where it got him.

If its possible? Not if you ask me. You couldn't even build a TIE fighter in my opinion. How is that?

Oh and by the way, is this your army, you say? You have a very tiny army with no vehicles, and a space navy that would make Palpatine green with envy. Love the navy.

"Love the Navy" and "Look where it got him" won't cut it. Every year, when Budget time rolls around and your entire GDP is blown away maintaining your Navy, complete chaos will ensnare the nation. People will rebel, your national economy will plunge, your navy will fall into Disrepair. You're basically pissing your budget away while covering up your godmods with repetitive phrases like "Love the Navy". FINE! I'LL MAKE CHANGES!

That's a good boy. Have a cookie. *Takes out a homemade Chocolate-chip cookie*

The TIE Defender is reguarded as the best starfigher ever, as t surpasses anything in the Republics or Imperials Navy Starfighter Fleet, though they are expensive, heres the low down

Two Ion Cannons
Four Laser Cannons
Two Concussion Missle Launchers
and a tractor bean

((incase you meant Tie Defender by TIE/d, that stands for Droid Controlled TIE Fighters NOT TIE Defender)) The Tie/d is swarm weapon. Droid controled and consits of an entire armament of two laser cannons.

Not even the Galactic Empire had that many Super Star Destroyers. and look where it got him.

If its possible? Not if you ask me. You couldn't even build a TIE fighter in my opinion. How is that?

Oh and by the way, is this your army, you say? You have a very tiny army with no vehicles, and a space navy that would make Palpatine green with envy. Love the navy.

"Love the Navy" and "Look where it got him" won't cut it. Every year, when Budget time rolls around and your entire GDP is blown away maintaining your Navy, complete chaos will ensnare the nation. People will rebel, your national economy will plunge, your navy will fall into Disrepair. You're basically pissing your budget away while covering up your godmods with repetitive phrases like "Love the Navy". FINE! I'LL MAKE CHANGES!

That's a good boy. Have a cookie. *Takes out a homemade Chocolate-chip cookie* Thank you.

100 Manslayers(The Cream of the crop) RC-P90, Shuriken, Fukiya, Ashiko, Kantana, Wakizashi, Claymore(Sword)(Optional),and a Scottish Dirk.

An RC-P90 isn't a real firearm, it was from Goldeneye for the N64. Naturally, since it was a commercial game, they couldn't just use the real trademarked name for free.

The real firearm is the FN P90, short for Fabrique-National Project 90, created by FN-Herstal (www.fnherstal.com). Not to mention, the P90 was developed to be a CQB (close quarters battle) powerhouse, and nothing more. The accuracy beyond CQB ranges is seriously lacking. These troops wouldn't be effective in any sort of real warfare situation.

100 Manslayers(The Cream of the crop) RC-P90, Shuriken, Fukiya, Ashiko, Kantana, Wakizashi, Claymore(Sword)(Optional),and a Scottish Dirk.

An RC-P90 isn't a real firearm, it was from Goldeneye for the N64. Naturally, since it was a commercial game, they couldn't just use the real trademarked name for free.

The real firearm is the FN P90, short for Fabrique-National Project 90, created by FN-Herstal (www.fnherstal.com). Not to mention, the P90 was developed to be a CQB (close quarters battle) powerhouse, and nothing more. The accuracy beyond CQB ranges is seriously lacking. These troops wouldn't be effective in any sort of real warfare situation. I was wondering if anyone would catch that! Your right about the range. But they are assassins. Any suggestions?

I would like to take this time to thank all the people who turned out to show me errors in my army.

100 Manslayers(The Cream of the crop) RC-P90, Shuriken, Fukiya, Ashiko, Kantana, Wakizashi, Claymore(Sword)(Optional),and a Scottish Dirk.

An RC-P90 isn't a real firearm, it was from Goldeneye for the N64. Naturally, since it was a commercial game, they couldn't just use the real trademarked name for free.

The real firearm is the FN P90, short for Fabrique-National Project 90, created by FN-Herstal (www.fnherstal.com). Not to mention, the P90 was developed to be a CQB (close quarters battle) powerhouse, and nothing more. The accuracy beyond CQB ranges is seriously lacking. These troops wouldn't be effective in any sort of real warfare situation. I was wondering if anyone would catch that! Your right about the range. But they are assassins. Any suggestions?

As a matter of fact, I have an excellent suggestion. First of all, you have four bladed weapons per man, yet only one firearm. You really need to re-equip them. Consider dropping all of your blades for a versatile folder knife, or even a long straight blade.

Secondly, as far as the weapon goes, an assassin needs versatility. For this, I suggest the G36. It comes with three barrels, three foregrips, two different types of optics, and two stocks. It can easily be configured between a marksmanship rifle (which, in the hands of a skilled marksman, could easily eliminate targets from great distances), a standard assault rifle, and a CQB rifle.

Then give them a back-up. I recommend either a Heckler & Koch or a Sig-Sauer. Personally, Sig-Sauers are my favorite. The P226 is an excellent and reliable sidearm. However, I would also venture to say the an H&K USP P8 would serve the purpose quite well.

Not even the Galactic Empire had that many Super Star Destroyers.

and look where it got him.

If its possible? Not if you ask me. You couldn't even build a TIE fighter in my opinion.

How is that?

Oh and by the way, is this your army, you say? You have a very tiny army with no vehicles, and a space navy that would make Palpatine green with envy.

Love the navy.

No you don't get it.. I'm saying that if a galactic-spanning economy didn't have that many ships, how could you afford even a single one? We're talking planet-busting ships here.

A TIE Fighter has laser weapons in the 60 GJ range (1 kiloton if you count books), can reach orbit in seconds, and in the case of Defenders, carry high-range multimegaton missiles, and fly lightyears in hours. You're telling me you can build something that can do that?

As a matter of fact, I have an excellent suggestion. First of all, you have four bladed weapons per man, yet only one firearm. You really need to re-equip them. Consider dropping all of your blades for a versatile folder knife, or even a long straight blade.

Secondly, as far as the weapon goes, an assassin needs versatility. For this, I suggest the G36. It comes with three barrels, three foregrips, two different types of optics, and two stocks. It can easily be configured between a marksmanship rifle (which, in the hands of a skilled marksman, could easily eliminate targets from great distances), a standard assault rifle, and a CQB rifle.

Then give them a back-up. I recommend either a Heckler & Koch or a Sig-Sauer. Personally, Sig-Sauers are my favorite. The P226 is an excellent and reliable sidearm. However, I would also venture to say the an H&K USP P8 would serve the purpose quite well. Thank you. I'll adopt the G36, and the Sigs but my blades? I'll reflect on that one.

Not even the Galactic Empire had that many Super Star Destroyers.

and look where it got him.

If its possible? Not if you ask me. You couldn't even build a TIE fighter in my opinion.

How is that?

Oh and by the way, is this your army, you say? You have a very tiny army with no vehicles, and a space navy that would make Palpatine green with envy.

Love the navy.

No you don't get it.. I'm saying that if a galactic-spanning economy didn't have that many ships, how could you afford even a single one? We're talking planet-busting ships here.

A TIE Fighter has laser weapons in the 60 GJ range (1 kiloton if you count books), can reach orbit in seconds, and in the case of Defenders, carry high-range multimegaton missiles, and fly lightyears in hours. You're telling me you can build something that can do that? Well I changed the stats around. And yes I can. Ties are cheap.

Well I changed the stats around. And yes I can. Ties are cheap.

I noticed, but obviuously you have no clue what I'm talking about. They're cheap to a GALACTIC-SPANNING EMPIRE, not to you.