NationStates Jolt Archive


Mine Replacement Development program (pics)

Slagkattunger
12-12-2003, 12:38
http://www.users.on.net/killerkoala/skambass.JPG
Ambassador Jade Purrlinda
The Free Land of Slagkattungerhttp://www.nationstates.net/images/un_member.gif
Politics is war without bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed.
Email:- Slagkattunger@hotmail.com
Slagkattunger Nation Profile (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=78165)
My Nations GDP (http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=Slagkattunger)
Covered by DRI (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=83705)

"The Free Land of Slagkattunger has been inconvienced by the UN decision to ban the use of landmines, this is because we had incorporated landmines into our defensive plans. When it became apparant that the UN resolution would pass the Slagkattunger Government authourised the development of a replacement for landmines.

The development team has determined that a mobile device with basic programing & the ability to determine friend from foe was the answer. Working off Slagkattunger drone program they have developed two basic robot bombs, codenamed Plate and Thistle these prototypes are nearing completion of their development stage. The major downside to these units has been their increase in cost when compared to landmine but this is outweighed by the fact that these units are more versitile than standard mines.

We are realesing the prototype for comments and suggestions from the world militaries to fine tune them before we develope the final version."

Codename Plate:- Anti-Tank/ Vehicle Drone
http://www.users.on.net/killerkoala/plate.JPG
Cost: - 2500 Union Paws
Length: - 30 cm
Height on legs: - 10 cm
Height with legs retracted: - 3.5 cm
Speed: - 10 meters per second for 2 minuites until internal power source is drained.
Weight: - 5 kg
Damage Effect: - Slightly more powerful than the standard Anti-tank mine.
Notes: -
It's Basic Robotic programing allows the unit to perform several basic actions like: - [list:d138b799c9] Self-righting should it be flipped. Friend or Foe detector (See Below for further details). Dig until hidden. Cling on side/ underhang of objects. Return to becon & deactivate
Unit can be remotely controlled by the operator who released it.
Shielded Internal Power source capable of moving unit for 2 minutes & operate robotic programing for 6 months in stationary mode.[/list:u:d138b799c9]

Codename Thistle:- Anti-Personnel Drone
http://www.users.on.net/killerkoala/thistle.JPG
Cost: - 1250 Union Paws
Length: - 5 cm
Height on legs: - 10 cm
Height with legs retracted: - 5 cm
Speed: - 10 meters per second for 1 minuites until internal power source is drained.
Weight: - 1 kg
Damage Effect: - Two stage effect: - First Stage: - Fires Titanium tipped steel darts a 360 degree semi-dome patten Second Stage: - After approching nearest "Foe" detonating like a High Explosive Grenade
Notes: -
It's Basic Robotic programing allows the unit to perform several basic actions like: - [list:d138b799c9] Self-righting should it be flipped. Friend or Foe detector (See Below for further details). Dig until hidden. Cling on side/ underhang of objects. Return to becon & deactivate
Unit can be remotely controlled by the operator who released it.
Shielded Internal Power source capable of moving unit for 1 minutes & operate robotic programing for 6 months in stationary mode.[/list:u:d138b799c9]

Friend or Foe Transmitter
A tamper proof magnetic transmitter is fitted to units & worn by troops, it works by holding an unique magnetic signature that the robotic bomb drones (RBD) can pick up. This signiture recongnition can be changed by the operator should the enemy capture an operable transmitter.
Slagkattunger
12-12-2003, 13:41
Feel free to comment people..................
Thelas
12-12-2003, 13:49
Nice, for countries that are moraly opposed to the use of long-term mines this is a great development, although Thelas will probably continue to use the old "dumb" mines.
Slagkattunger
12-12-2003, 14:32
The dumb mines certainly are cheaper......damn UN proposal :evil:
Aqua Nation Atlantica
12-12-2003, 20:51
I like it!! seems good to me. Are you planning on devloping a Submersible version?
Aaronisia
12-12-2003, 20:54
Indeed, quite exellent, certainly gives me something to keep the inspectors busy with while I'm out sowing my mi....corn feilds....put me down on a contract for 4 million units, 3 million anti-personel and 1 million anit-tank units please.
Slagkattunger
13-12-2003, 01:49
Indeed, quite exellent, certainly gives me something to keep the inspectors busy with while I'm out sowing my mi....corn feilds....put me down on a contract for 4 million units, 3 million anti-personel and 1 million anit-tank units please.

They are still in prototype mode hence not for sale......yet. When they do go on sale it will be through a 3rd party who will make & sell them to the world.

I like it!! seems good to me. Are you planning on devloping a Submersible version?

Currently no.......contact me ANA if you want to develop one together.
Aqua Nation Atlantica
13-12-2003, 01:53
I most certainly am, we particularly need a short range and relatively inexpensive drone system for security work around our millitary installations and Population centres.
Slagkattunger
13-12-2003, 02:11
ooc:- ANA TG for you.......btw I wouldn't place them near civilians If I was you the potential for mishaps would be too high.
Slagkattunger
13-12-2003, 10:48
ooc: - Hmm the NS world seems to be in awe of my creations :?:
13-12-2003, 10:56
And how does this address the issue of unknowing people (especially children) wandering into minefields? Will your entire population be fitted with these ID chips? You've manage to create an impressive mine that helps guard against casualties to your military forces but you've failed to address some of the underlying concerns about this sort of warfare.
Slagkattunger
13-12-2003, 13:18
And how does this address the issue of unknowing people (especially children) wandering into minefields? Will your entire population be fitted with these ID chips? You've manage to create an impressive mine that helps guard against casualties to your military forces but you've failed to address some of the underlying concerns about this sort of warfare.

These are not mines thank you that would be contravening the UN resolution, something we will not do. These are Robotic Bomb Drones (RBD) they are controlled by our personnel & not left out for children to play with. They will be used only around mititary facilities in peace time & a civilian gets hurt by them, then thats their own fault as they have invaded private property (and had managed to somehow bypast border security).

Their advantage is, after being used in a war they can be rounded up (via the becon command) and deactivate and then taken away to be overhauled & stored for the next time they are deployed. So as you can see unlike mines these units are not left lying around after the cause for their deployment has gone.
13-12-2003, 14:25
These are not mines thank you that would be contravening the UN resolution, something we will not do.

If it looks like a duck, and it sounds like a duck, odds are...we'll you get my drift.

You have done an adequate job of dealing with the problems that the un resolution seeks to address, but you will want to consider several things before implementing a weapon like this in your arsenal. Especially with a weapon so dependent on "beacons" and transmitter frequencies.
13-12-2003, 14:34
These are massively cool. Slagkattunger created a "safe" mine that can be deactivated after combat, and hopefully no children are straying onto combat grounds, and if they are, well.......I don't know. But they're cool. An OOC question: Where'd you get the pictures?
Slagkattunger
13-12-2003, 15:44
These are not mines thank you that would be contravening the UN resolution, something we will not do.

If it looks like a duck, and it sounds like a duck, odds are...we'll you get my drift.

You have done an adequate job of dealing with the problems that the un resolution seeks to address, but you will want to consider several things before implementing a weapon like this in your arsenal. Especially with a weapon so dependent on "beacons" and transmitter frequencies.

Well since the idea is not to recall them until after a conflict the becon won't be intercepted by hostiles (although the Frequency will be changed after use) and the friend or foe feature uses an unique magnetic signature so no transmition is being sent by the unit to the RBD (the transmitter part is a misnomer, as the device isn't a transmittor).

An OOC question: Where'd you get the pictures?

ooc:- I made them using Doga lv 3, I think Foe Hammer has a thread relating to its use, type his name into the search function & look for a title using the word Doga in it.
Slagkattunger
14-12-2003, 06:45
bump
Slagkattunger
15-12-2003, 09:25
ooc:- So no improvements needed?
Sakkra
15-12-2003, 09:30
If it is to be used as a mine, which would require som measure of concealment, then I would suggest soem manner of digging or drilling mechanism on the underside of the mine. A depth of 1 foot should be sufficient. In which case, you would need a slightly better power source.
Slagkattunger
15-12-2003, 09:36
If it is to be used as a mine, which would require som measure of concealment, then I would suggest soem manner of digging or drilling mechanism on the underside of the mine. A depth of 1 foot should be sufficient. In which case, you would need a slightly better power source.

Ooc:- Sakkra ever watched a beetle or other insect hide in the forest? These things use their legs to bury themselves in the loose leaf matter that coats the floor of the rainforest & temperate forests of Slagkattunger, and the grass of the plains hide them quite well (Although if the thistle is hanging from a branch of a tree, looking at the ground won't help ya :P ).
Sakkra
15-12-2003, 09:41
Ah. That was not explained. What about emissions? Does it give off any chemical or mettalurgical traces?
Slagkattunger
15-12-2003, 09:56
Ah. That was not explained. What about emissions? Does it give off any chemical or mettalurgical traces?

ooc:- The Thistle has steel darts so yes there (faint but there) while both the plate and thistle would give a faint chemical trace if you know what to look for (and the version whos rights we will sell latter will have a different trace to what we will use for obvious reasons :P ). The body of both units is a mixture of a special silicone based plastic & minor alloys which help keep the detectability down to an acceptable level.

So basically unless you know they are there or know what to look for (and look all the time) you won't know they are there until it's too late (like with minefields). Also (the best bit about theses things) if you try to clear them like a minefield, you'll get attacked by the units kamarkarzing(sp?) into you.
Sakkra
15-12-2003, 10:04
Not too bad at all. Good stuff.
Slagkattunger
16-12-2003, 01:27
Thanks :P Any more questions :?: come on people......surely you have questions :tantrum: it helps my creations when people have questions.