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Kurdistan Times

IRBIL, KURDISTAN PROVINCE, AL ANBAR - Today, the Kurdish Parliament, which effectively governs the autonomous province of Kurdistan, voted overwhelming in favour of cutting ties with United Kurdistan. Feeling that they were being "pushed" around by the United Kurdistan government, which controls both Turkish and Iranian Kurdish-majority pronvinces, the Kurdish Parliament decided to close all borders with them and stop all trade.

The Kurdish Parliament, led by Jalal Talibani of the PUK Party, has also asked that Al Anbar standby their military forces and prepare to enter the Kurdish region should United Kurdistan and their main ally, Soviet Haaregrade, decide to take military action against them.

No one could be reached within the government of Al Anbar about their position on this matter.

The Federation of Hrstrovokia is quite alarmed at the break of communication betwen United Kurdistan and Al Anbar, which threatens to entirely dominate Hrstrovokian - Anbari peace talks and possibly derail it.

Prime Minister Tesygran has campaigned vehemently for Kurdish independence, and will see to it that this is maintained. Let us remind you that the 80,000 Federal Task Force A at Gilalee, Iswa is awaiting orders to board Valinon ships bound for Syria.

The Federation of Hrstrovokia is quite alarmed at the break of communication betwen United Kurdistan and Al Anbar, which threatens to entirely dominate Hrstrovokian - Anbari peace talks and possibly derail it.

Prime Minister Tesygran has campaigned vehemently for Kurdish independence, and will see to it that this is maintained. Let us remind you that the 80,000 Federal Task Force A at Gilalee, Iswa is awaiting orders to board Valinon ships bound for Syria.

OOC: Al Anbar has not cut relations with United Kurdistan, only the autonomous Kurdish region. The region is like how it is now in Iraq - they have more or less independence and only must enforce the laws of Al Anbar, but otherwise, they are free to do whatever they want.

In response to this Haaregradia is cutting pulling back all diplomats as well as withholding military information, such as the recent upgrade to the T80/T84 tank.

Lastly Haaregradia will send one more Fortress class battleship battlegroup and one more Carpathia class aircraft carrier battlegroup. Thus bringing our forces in the region up to:

1x Marx class dreadnought
2x Carpathia class aircraft carrier
1x Amon Amarth class aircraft carrier
2x Fortress class battleship

More military forces may be diverted if just cause is seen.

Al Anbar demands that Soviet Haaregrad pull any military forces that is near Al Anbar away. We will not stand for such blatant military postering. While we do not agree with the Kurdish Parliament's stance on United Kurdistan, Al Anbar will not interfere. We have no influence in the Parliament but we stand by their decisions as they do ours.

(OOC: But, we've already got the plans, etc. and we have better tanks, so yay. :lol: )

This does not make since the Kurds are fanatical about reuniting and the resturation of Kurdistian doesn't make since to us but since when did the middle east ever make since.

~Princess Lina Tor Asha

Kurdistan will gladly accept the military assistance from Haaregradia. Additionally we are shocked and appalled that our brethern would turn their backs on the fate of the Kurdish people. Surely a government that Saddam Hussein trusts would have no good will towards the Kurdish people, after all, this is the man that murdered our families.

You trust him to decide who should lead our people?

We ask the people of Kurdistan to decide who truely has their best intrests at heart, Saddam Hussein or Ali Boulala?

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Ali Boulala, Intrim Leader - United Kurdistan
http://www.skateboardermag.com/currentissue/boulala2.jpg

Kurdistan will gladly accept the military assistance from Haaregradia. Additionally we are shocked and appalled that our brethern would turn their backs on the fate of the Kurdish people. Surely a government that Saddam Hussein trusts would have no good will towards the Kurdish people, after all, this is the man that murdered our families.

You trust him to decide who should lead our people?

We ask the people of Kurdistan to decide who truely has their best intrests at heart, Saddam Hussein or Ali Boulala?

Kurdish

We trust neither Saddam Hussein nor "Ali Boulala". We trust our democratically elected leader, Jalal Talibani of the PUK. It is not only Jalal Talibani and his PUK party that voted for this motion to cut all ties with this "United Kurdistan", who has tried to destroy this government, but also by both the KDP and KPP parties.

Al Anbar demands that Soviet Haaregrad pull any military forces that is near Al Anbar away. We will not stand for such blatant military postering. While we do not agree with the Kurdish Parliament's stance on United Kurdistan, Al Anbar will not interfere. We have no influence in the Parliament but we stand by their decisions as they do ours.

(OOC: But, we've already got the plans, etc. and we have better tanks, so yay. :lol: )

OOC: Actually, I sold you the last version, I made this upgrade like a week after the sale.

Haaregradia will not withdraw any forces as they are in Kurdistani waters, however, if need be they will enter Al Anbari waters. We feel that Saddam Hussein's government is forcing the Kurdish people of Al Anbar who have already once voted to join United Kurdistan to follow their puppet government that was installed by Hussein.

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Bam Margera, Minister of Defense and Security
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-10/422994/bamsig.jpg


OOC: attack of the skaters!

Al Anbar demands that Soviet Haaregrad pull any military forces that is near Al Anbar away. We will not stand for such blatant military postering. While we do not agree with the Kurdish Parliament's stance on United Kurdistan, Al Anbar will not interfere. We have no influence in the Parliament but we stand by their decisions as they do ours.

(OOC: But, we've already got the plans, etc. and we have better tanks, so yay. :lol: )

OOC: Actually, I sold you the last version, I made this upgrade like a week after the sale.

Haaregradia will not withdraw any forces as they are in Kurdistani waters, however, if need be they will enter Al Anbari waters. We feel that Saddam Hussein's government is forcing the Kurdish people of Al Anbar who have already once voted to join United Kurdistan to follow their puppet government that was installed by Hussein.

Any vessels entering Al Anbar waters will be destroyed. United Kurdistan has no access to any ocean, so we do not understand how they could be in KURDISH waters.

Any vessels entering Al Anbar waters will be destroyed. United Kurdistan has no access to any ocean, so we do not understand how they could be in KURDISH waters.

OOC: United Kurdistan has claimed the area on the map I made for them. There's a sliver of sea access north of Syria.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-10/422994/kurdmap.gif

Any vessels entering Al Anbar waters will be destroyed. United Kurdistan has no access to any ocean, so we do not understand how they could be in KURDISH waters.

OOC: United Kurdistan has claimed the area on the map I made for them. There's a sliver of sea access north of Syria.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-10/422994/kurdmap.gif

OOC: That doesn't really matter since I control both all of Syria, including Syrian Kurdistan (which doesn't extend that long) and all of Iraq.

Any vessels entering Al Anbar waters will be destroyed. United Kurdistan has no access to any ocean, so we do not understand how they could be in KURDISH waters.

OOC: United Kurdistan has claimed the area on the map I made for them. There's a sliver of sea access north of Syria.


OOC: That doesn't really matter since I control both all of Syria, including Syrian Kurdistan (which doesn't extend that long) and all of Iraq.

OOC: It's a part of Turkey that's been cut off. Unrelated, can you cut off the images when you quote? Also unrelated, what are your submarine and ASW capabilities?

OOC: A Listing of Haaregradian Forces in the Mediterranean

HNS Leon Trotsky BCVN-3 dreadnought
+HNS Bilbo Baggins CGN-26 heavy missile cruiser
+1x CG-1
+1x SSN
+1x DDG
+2x FFG
+1x MCM

HNS Kiev CVN-20
+HNS Thoth BCGN-10 battlecruiser
+1x CG-1
+1x SSN
+1x DDG
+2x FFG

HNS Volga CVN-17
+HNS Elrond CGN-23 heavy missile cruiser
+1x CG-1
+1x SSN
+1x DDG
+2x FFG

HNS Zyklon CVN-3
+HNS Hecate BCGN-14 battlecruiser
+1x CG-1
+1x SSN
+1x DDG
+2x FFG

HNS Leningrad BBGN-3
+1x CG-1
+1x SSN
+1x DDG
+2x FFG
+1x MCM

HNS Tambov BBGN-8
+HNS Greystone CGV-1 aviation cruiser(similar to a modernized Russian Kiev class)
+1x CG-1
+1x SSN
+1x DDG
+2x FFG

I can provide stats for all of these(and pictures too :) when I get my storefront) on request.

Any vessels entering Al Anbar waters will be destroyed. United Kurdistan has no access to any ocean, so we do not understand how they could be in KURDISH waters.

OOC: United Kurdistan has claimed the area on the map I made for them. There's a sliver of sea access north of Syria.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-10/422994/kurdmap.gif

OOC: That doesn't really matter since I control both all of Syria, including Syrian Kurdistan (which doesn't extend that long) and all of Iraq.

Nice map, but we feel a bit small :oops:

Who cares about size when yours is the kingdom of the holy land, Jeruselem. Your the last crusader state and have defied all that tried to destroy your Latin State. I would say that is more than enough to make up for small size. :wink: but I should note that you or your northern neibur of Lebenon are not on the map there.

Jerusalem, might we be able to use some of your ports?

Who cares about size when yours is the kingdom of the holy land, Jeruselem. Your the last crusader state and have defied all that tried to destroy your Latin State. I would say that is more than enough to make up for small size. :wink:

That's an excellent point.


http://www.wellingtonbrewery.ca/duke_shield.gif
Duke Anthony Cucolo
Grand Duchy of Cucolo

Who cares about size when yours is the kingdom of the holy land, Jeruselem. Your the last crusader state and have defied all that tried to destroy your Latin State. I would say that is more than enough to make up for small size. :wink: but I should note that you or your northern neibur of Lebenon are not on the map there.

OOC: Yeah, the map I traced it from was too small to really make out the smaller nations. I'm pretty sure the little nation is Lebannon and that I never actually drew in Israel.

Who cares about size when yours is the kingdom of the holy land, Jeruselem. Your the last crusader state and have defied all that tried to destroy your Latin State. I would say that is more than enough to make up for small size. :wink: but I should note that you or your northern neibur of Lebenon are not on the map there.

OOC: Yeah, the map I traced it from was too small to really make out the smaller nations. I'm pretty sure the little nation is Lebannon and that I never actually drew in Israel.

Thanks, but Israel isn't exactly big either. :)

OOC: Yes that is Lebenon, the country where the citizens both christian and muslim try to send as much time as they can outside of the country.

Who cares about size when yours is the kingdom of the holy land, Jeruselem. Your the last crusader state and have defied all that tried to destroy your Latin State. I would say that is more than enough to make up for small size. :wink: but I should note that you or your northern neibur of Lebenon are not on the map there.

OOC: Yeah, the map I traced it from was too small to really make out the smaller nations. I'm pretty sure the little nation is Lebannon and that I never actually drew in Israel.

Thanks, but Israel isn't exactly big either. :)

Hence why it was forgotten. ;)

OOC:Well if you are the latin kingdom of Jeruselem created during the crusades you would be a litte bigger than Israel, if I recall.

OOC:Well if you are the latin kingdom of Jeruselem created during the crusades you would be a litte bigger than Israel, if I recall.

True, but some Moslems got in the way :o

I think the biggest version of "Israel" or "Jerusalem" was the whole are of Trans-Jordon before the British divided everything up weird and made Israel tiny.

I don't think Latin Israel was that big either...it was divided up between regions too, I think. :?

OOC:Teritora can always pull a Fredrek Barbarossa sized army but this time without the leader drowning on the way and the army turning back in the past. :wink:

I think the biggest version of "Israel" or "Jerusalem" was the whole are of Trans-Jordon before the British divided everything up weird and made Israel tiny.

I don't think Latin Israel was that big either...it was divided up between regions too, I think. :?

Not really there was several crusader states, not just Jerusalem, there was crusader states in Lebnon, Jordan, Part of Turkey and parts of modern Iraq and Iran. It wasn't called the latin east for nothing,

I think the biggest version of "Israel" or "Jerusalem" was the whole are of Trans-Jordon before the British divided everything up weird and made Israel tiny.

I don't think Latin Israel was that big either...it was divided up between regions too, I think. :?

Not really there was several crusader states, not just Jerusalem, there was crusader states in Lebnon, Jordan, Part of Turkey and parts of modern Iraq and Iran. It wasn't called the latin east for nothing,

Oh yeah, you're right. Sorry I was thinking too constrictively. :oops:

I think the biggest version of "Israel" or "Jerusalem" was the whole are of Trans-Jordon before the British divided everything up weird and made Israel tiny.

I don't think Latin Israel was that big either...it was divided up between regions too, I think. :?

Not really there was several crusader states, not just Jerusalem, there was crusader states in Lebnon, Jordan, Part of Turkey and parts of modern Iraq and Iran. It wasn't called the latin east for nothing,

He had Jeruselem, Antioch, Tripoli (Lebanon I think), bits of Greece, Byzantium (1204-1261), and Cyprus (sold in 1573 to Genoa I think). As for the Kurds, I'm not sure how large their empire really was. Saladin was nice Kurd ... not to us.

http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/images/maps/crusaders2.jpg

There was also Crete, rhodes, Malta and a host of other Islands, Like I said there was a reason they called the latin east, their was a lot of crusader states, Jeruselem however was the most important one.

Malta is included? I always associated that with Africa or Europe.

Malta is included? I always associated that with Africa or Europe.

Controlled by the Knights of St John until that Napolean guy turned up.

All Haaregradian battleships, battlecruisers, dreadnoughts and heavy cruisers have been ordered to arm at least 1/3 of their VLS batteries with the land attack version on the SS-N-19, which is supersonic with a range of 645km.
(Meaning Baghdad is a possible target from our current location)

OOC: Who owns Kuwait?

Oh yes, our stance is neutral as usual (ie let them squabble over their own land)

OOC: Who knows who owns Kuwait, but you can't attack me from there. Since, Southern Iraq is like Kurdistan, except their totally independent, but I RP for that state.

IC:

Statement by Speaker Jalal Talibani, Kurdistan

In order to preserve peaceful relations and to avoid war and the loss of civilian life from a war, the Parliament has decided to remove restrictions on trade with United Kurdistan. However, in order to make sure that the autonomy of our Kurdish area is preserved, all trade contracts must be made through the Ministry of Trade and Finance.

We have no wish to get in a war. We strive to keep peace within Iraqi Kurdistan and throughout the whole region. The people of Iraqi Kurdistan hope that the Soviet Haaregradians and the so-called 'United Kurdistan' government will understand this and remove their strike forces. We do not want war.

OOC: Haaregradian Land Forces Currently in, or landing by 7pm (RFT) in Northern United Kurdistan

8x Stormtrooper Regiment(two mechanized infantry battalions)
>24 MT-80D Black Eagle MBT
>36 HT-98E Merkava MBT
>96 IFV-3C Snow Leopard IFV
>40 APC-102A Boxer armored personel carriers
>240 LW-99A Wolverine troop transport truck
>36 MA-5 40mmX2 self propelled anti-aircraft artillery
>36 SA-11 Archer SAM systems
>12 SA-12 Adder SAM systems
>4 SA-16 Ghosthunter SAM systems
>2 336 infantry men per unit, plus tank and IFV crews

16x Infantry Regiment(one infantry division)
>16 HT-98 Merkava MBT
>40 IFV-3 Snow Leopard IFV
>64 APC-102 Boxer armored personel carriers
>320 LW-99 Wolverine troop transport truck
>36 MA-5 40mmX2 self propelled anti-aircraft artillery
>36 SA-11 Archer SAM systems
>12 SA-12 Adder SAM systems
>4 SA-16 Ghosthunter SAM systems
>2 240 infantry men per unit, plus tank and IFV crews

4x Tank Regiment(one armoured battalion)
>72 MT-80D Black Eagle MBT
>64 HT-98E Merkava MBT
>48 IFV-3C Snow Leopard IFV
>192 LW-99A Wolverine troop transport truck
>36 MA-5 40mmX2 self propelled anti-aircraft artillery
>36 SA-11 Archer SAM systems
>12 SA-12 Adder SAM systems
>4 SA-16 Ghosthunter SAM systems
>1 664 infantry men per unit, plus tank and IFV crews

2x Airborne Regiments
>48 LW-99 Wolverine troop transport truck
>16 LT-96 airborne assualt tanks
>16 IFV-3 infantry fighting vehicles
>24 APC-102B Boxer armored personel carriers
>24 LW-104 Cheetah light assualt vehicle
>64 UAH-35D Hind airborne assualt helicopters
>64 UH-62 Killer Whale utility helicopters
>48 SB-1 Razor speeder bikes
>684 infantry men per unit, plus tank and IFV crews

2x Aerotrooper Regiments
>72 AH-68A Werewolf close support helicopters
>12 AH-68B Werewolf close support helicopters
>24 RAH-66A Commache close support/recon helicopters
>64 SB-1 Razor speeder bikes
>12 FV-27A Manta Ray multirole V/STOL aircraft

Additionally a classified number of engineers, logistics and other needed troops have been, or will be landed.

IC: Why the buildup?

We, the people of Haaregradia feel that our ally United Kurdistan is under threat by Al Anbar. We can not abandon them to yet again be assaulted by Saddam Hussein.

We feel if Al Anbar intervenes to prevent the Kurdish people from uniting, including by using his puppet Kurdish government to repress the Kurdish people from forming a unified state then military action may result. We have no desire to take the offensive, however if the Kurdish people's will is denied there will be consequences.

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Vladimir Lenin III, President of Haaregradia
http://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/photo/1919/lenin.jpg

From the North a ways, in the dusty land of Carmayar, one of the outlining old outposts seems, well dead. The flag flying limp as no breeze comes in, all desert..

inside the small building which barely could be seen dotting out, a man in half uniform watches the television and then looks out towards the south..
Towards Al-Abnar

Seargent: God be with us, if something starts...

OOC: I can always own Kuwait if you guys like?

IC: Why the buildup?

We, the people of Haaregradia feel that our ally United Kurdistan is under threat by Al Anbar. We can not abandon them to yet again be assaulted by Saddam Hussein.

We feel if Al Anbar intervenes to prevent the Kurdish people from uniting, including by using his puppet Kurdistani government to repress the Kurdish people from forming a unified state then military action may result. We have no desire to take the offensive, however if the Kurdish people's will is denied there will be consequences.

We do not care about what the Kurdish people of Turkey and Iran want. The Iraqi and Syrian Kurds have spoken and they wish to stay with us. Al Anbar and the Iraqi Kurdish Government both have the ability not to wish to trade with these 'United Kurds'.

OOC: Now, a couple of things. United Kurdistan does not own my Kurdish area. Secondly, there is no such thing at 'Kurdistani' it's KURDISH.

OOC: I can always own Kuwait if you guys like?

OOC: Give'r

OOC: Now, a couple of things. United Kurdistan does not own my Kurdish area. Secondly, there is no such thing at 'Kurdistani' it's KURDISH.

OOC: Actually it's not uncommon for two nations to claim the same territory. Even Canada and the US both lay claim to the same lands.(In this case several islands in the Great Lakes and St. Lawrence)

OOC: I can always own Kuwait if you guys like?

OOC: Give'r

OOC: What?

OOC: I can always own Kuwait if you guys like?

OOC: Give'r

OOC: What?

OOC: I take it you haven't seen Fubar... translation: Feel free to play as Kuwait.

OOC: Nope, cannot say I have, and thanks :)