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The World Leaders Hotel, Resort and Sanitarium.

Sino
11-12-2003, 22:55
The Armed Republic of Sino has recently annexed the fallen nation of Uubland in the region of Winstonia and has created a Colony of Sinoese Winstonia. Being a nation with a charismatic leader (General Liu), construction is due to commence in three weeks by the Ling Zhou Building and Architechtural Corporation of a great World Leaders Hotel and Resort.

This hotel will be of five-star luxuries, set in a tropical area, only minutes from a clean, golden colored beach. It will have 3 18-hole gulf courses, 6 swimming pools, 4 courts for raquet sports, over 5 bars and numerous restaurants and bistros, first class health and medical care. And of course there will always be large rooms to cater the leaders of the NS world and their families. Not to mention, conference facilities but for the more casual talk of politics. There will be no gambling facilities or recreational drugs permitted.

Construction (at round the clock with eight hour shifts) will be due to complete for its grand opening in two months. This is also an important and momentous employment opportunity for the over 200,000 workers that are going to be involved and over 10,000 will be staffed there once the construction is complete for the reasons of security and catering. English is essential for communications with the staff there and all fares will be U.S. Dollars.

Visitations are limited only to those who are current or former political or military leaders at national/highest levels and must be recognized widely as being so. Leaders must not be wanted war criminals. Visitors (being world leaders of course) are encouraged to mix and mingle to discuss politics in a relaxed and casual atmosphere. Combat simulation systems (with a wide-ranging array of international weapons) are available for the leaders who like to fight mock infantry battles against each other.

Prices for accomodation is likely to start at U.S.$80,000 a night per person. Bookings prior to the opening is essential as we expect great earnings from this investment.


Any comments or questions about it are most welcomed.
Sino
11-12-2003, 23:10
BUMP

Get your minds into vacation mode at once!
Sino
11-12-2003, 23:20
BUMP

Make your bookings now!
12-12-2003, 00:09
Communiqué from Peng-Pau to Sino

Subject: World Leaders Hotel
To: General Liu
From: Delaria Czjvenedestra
Priority: Important

MESSAGE BEGINS

General Liu,

The Cαpιταlια crosses her arms elegantly, but pointedly...

I have little choice but to decline your 'offer' of residence at the plannel World Leaders Hotel due to political differences between our peoples.

I hope our relations improve over time, but until such a time I prefer not to set foot in your land.

Czjvenedestra out.

MESSAGE ENDS
Sino
12-12-2003, 00:16
BUMP
Peng-Pau
12-12-2003, 00:19
OOC: Oh sod it... wrong country... :?

Just imagine that that post by Yntaiyira Phnoamida says "Peng-Pau"... :?
Sino
12-12-2003, 00:20
Communiqué from Peng-Pau to Sino

Subject: World Leaders Hotel
To: General Liu
From: Delaria Czjvenedestra
Priority: Important

MESSAGE BEGINS

General Liu,

The Cαpιταlια crosses her arms elegantly, but pointedly...

I have little choice but to decline your 'offer' of residence at the plannel World Leaders Hotel due to political differences between our peoples.

I hope our relations improve over time, but until such a time I prefer not to set foot in your land.

Czjvenedestra out.

MESSAGE ENDS

"Not a blip, eh?" General Liu replies by re-enacting with his hand, the SLBM impacting on Pen-Pau's defensive energy shield.
Sino
12-12-2003, 00:20
Communiqué from Peng-Pau to Sino

Subject: World Leaders Hotel
To: General Liu
From: Delaria Czjvenedestra
Priority: Important

MESSAGE BEGINS

General Liu,

The Cαpιταlια crosses her arms elegantly, but pointedly...

I have little choice but to decline your 'offer' of residence at the plannel World Leaders Hotel due to political differences between our peoples.

I hope our relations improve over time, but until such a time I prefer not to set foot in your land.

Czjvenedestra out.

MESSAGE ENDS

"Not a blip, eh?" General Liu replies by re-enacting with his hand, the SLBM impacting on Pen-Pau's defensive energy shield.
Peng-Pau
12-12-2003, 00:30
The Cαpιταlια's Office, Peng-Pau Parliamentary Headquarters, Dεiαiy, Peng-Pau...

"Oh cram it General." grumbled the capitalia in reply to the feeble attempt at a stab from the dictator. "Here, a present from me to you. You look like you need it after all."

The Cαpιταlια attaches a few photos of herself modelling skimpy underwear to the message, smirking slightly, and sends it.

OOC: A small point, that comment was made in the war room, which is OOC knowledge only... So basically there's no way that Liu could have known it.
NeoMordian
12-12-2003, 00:37
Our Holly Majesty is interesting in become a quest in Yours hotel, however there are few questions, that have to be answered.
1) what is the security of this place ?
2) is there any chapel and/or a place for selfmortification ? (in hotel or in he area nearby)
3) will the paparazzi have acces to the building ?

With regard.
Nathaniel Var Dassel
current Leader of Theocracy of Sinless
Crimmond
12-12-2003, 00:38
To: Foriegn Relations, The Armed Republic of Sino
From: Larea dinAthos, Head of Interspecies Relations and Assistant Director of Foriegn Relaions

Only five stars? A little scant, don't you think? Also we have concerns regarding the security of the annexed territory.
NeoMordian
12-12-2003, 00:40
OC: Hmmm. i was/ i`m logged in a puppet country :wink:
Clonetopia
12-12-2003, 00:40
OC: Hmmm. i was logged in a puppet country :wink: You still are :wink:
Sinless
12-12-2003, 01:06
Ok, problems with connections, but the questions remains...
12-12-2003, 01:33
Ok, problems with connections, but the questions remains...

"Sinless,"

The scripture says no one is sinless.

Romans 3:23:
...for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.

Romans 6:23:
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Only Jesus saves us sinners and no human is sinless. Your name spreads a false hope to nonbelievers.

[OOC: I felt like doing this. Take no offense.]
Sinless
12-12-2003, 01:53
I fully agree with You Nanakaland.
However, sinless is what We will to be, not what We are.
BTW: In Sinless there is a national church (not sure about corectness of my english), that Christians would call shizmatic and/or heretic.
.
Hawking
12-12-2003, 03:56
After it receives the promised shipment of Type 81, 7.62 mm Assault Rifles and Squad Machine Guns from Sino's labour camps in Ugrantia, the Hawking government would be happy to contribute some members of its Secret Service to help ensure the security of the World Leaders Hotel and Resort. All that is asked for in return is basic training from Sinoese forces in the use of the Type 81 weapons.

The Hawking government may even consider providing additional funds to aid the construction of the hotel complex. It sees this idea as a good one that will bring national leaders from around the world together in a casual environment and wants to see the project succeed. These statements have all been made, however, under the assumption that the hotel staff -- and the workers who take part in the construction of the hotel -- are assured of being treated fairly and given respect by patrons, as well as being given decent pay.
Virgin Atlantic
12-12-2003, 03:59
Virgin Atlantic (based in _Taiwan) would like an opportunity to invest in the hotel financially, and will promote the virtues of it to Taiwanese officials.
imported_Xiaguo
12-12-2003, 15:09
Wow, there would be an opening party and banquet right? A free one night stay?lol!

Well, can we open shops on the resort island?or watever?
Sino
14-12-2003, 02:14
The Cαpιταlια's Office, Peng-Pau Parliamentary Headquarters, Dεiαiy, Peng-Pau...

"Oh cram it General." grumbled the capitalia in reply to the feeble attempt at a stab from the dictator. "Here, a present from me to you. You look like you need it after all."

The Cαpιταlια attaches a few photos of herself modelling skimpy underwear to the message, smirking slightly, and sends it.

OOC: A small point, that comment was made in the war room, which is OOC knowledge only... So basically there's no way that Liu could have known it.

"Sir, we've received some inappropriate materials from the leader of Peng-pau!" The secretary bursted into his office, halting at a salute.

"At ease, soldier." The General returns the salute.

He checks the materials. Both hands cupped over his mouth.

"I need a barf bag, dammit! Of my many years as an officer, this is the most disgusting thing I've seen." He shields his eyes before deleting the package.

OOC: I don't know what she may look like but that ugly old skank's cellulite is not a pretty sight, especially for a very stressed thirty-three year old (General Liu) who works 12 hours daily and has rather conservative and reserved tastes in females.
Sino
14-12-2003, 02:22
Our Holly Majesty is interesting in become a quest in Yours hotel, however there are few questions, that have to be answered.
1) what is the security of this place ?
2) is there any chapel and/or a place for selfmortification ? (in hotel or in he area nearby)
3) will the paparazzi have acces to the building ?

With regard.
Nathaniel Var Dassel
current Leader of Theocracy of Sinless

In regards to your questions:

1) Secured by infantrymen, snipers, APCs and sniffer dogs in a 10km 'non public access' area. SAMs and artilleries nearby. Warships patrol the waters and MBTs are easily called up in a case of landing.

2) Sino is officially atheist. There will be no public religious services or facilities. We aplogize for your incovenience.

3) Security will be tight. All staff are to be examined prior to their employment, so no media pests will be allowed. Authorized media presence will be kept to a strict minimum.
Sino
14-12-2003, 02:30
To: Foriegn Relations, The Armed Republic of Sino
From: Larea dinAthos, Head of Interspecies Relations and Assistant Director of Foriegn Relaions

Only five stars? A little scant, don't you think? Also we have concerns regarding the security of the annexed territory.

What the hell do you want as additions?! A goddamn nude beach?! This is Sino, a nation of decency. There will be no whores on our lands, not even whores from your lands.
Sino
14-12-2003, 02:41
After it receives the promised shipment of Type 81, 7.62 mm Assault Rifles and Squad Machine Guns from Sino's labour camps in Ugrantia, the Hawking government would be happy to contribute some members of its Secret Service to help ensure the security of the World Leaders Hotel and Resort. All that is asked for in return is basic training from Sinoese forces in the use of the Type 81 weapons.

The Hawking government may even consider providing additional funds to aid the construction of the hotel complex. It sees this idea as a good one that will bring national leaders from around the world together in a casual environment and wants to see the project succeed. These statements have all been made, however, under the assumption that the hotel staff -- and the workers who take part in the construction of the hotel -- are assured of being treated fairly and given respect by patrons, as well as being given decent pay.

There is no need for Hawking to contribute anything to this project. Best to save their funds for more pressing needs. Our workers will be well looked after as this project is of immense importance.
Sino
14-12-2003, 02:43
BUMP!
Peng-Pau
14-12-2003, 02:51
The Cαpιταlια's Office, Peng-Pau Parliamentary Headquarters, Dεiαiy, Peng-Pau...

"Oh cram it General." grumbled the capitalia in reply to the feeble attempt at a stab from the dictator. "Here, a present from me to you. You look like you need it after all."

The Cαpιταlια attaches a few photos of herself modelling skimpy underwear to the message, smirking slightly, and sends it.

OOC: A small point, that comment was made in the war room, which is OOC knowledge only... So basically there's no way that Liu could have known it.

"Sir, we've received some inappropriate materials from the leader of Peng-pau!" The secretary bursted into his office, halting at a salute.

"At ease, soldier." The General returns the salute.

He checks the materials. Both hands cupped over his mouth.

"I need a barf bag, dammit! Of my many years as an officer, this is the most disgusting I've seen."

The Cαpιταlια's Office, Peng-Pau Parliamentary Headquarters, Dεiαiy, Peng-Pau...

Delaria chuckles at a slightly rude reply from the General to her previous message.

"Ah, I do apologise, you Sinoese prefer your women more St. Bernard than Supermodel."
Peng-Pau
14-12-2003, 03:01
OOC: I don't know what she may look like but that ugly old skank's cellulite is not a pretty sight, especially for a very stressed thirty-three year old (General Liu) who works 12 hours daily and has rather conservative and reserved tastes in females.

OOC: Hehehe...

She looks like this:

http://veratien.ksilebo.net/images/Delaria.jpg

;)
_Taiwan
14-12-2003, 03:44
Following Chen Shui Bian's return to the Presidency, Taiwan has halted discussions regarding investments.
Crimmond
14-12-2003, 04:31
To: Foriegn Relations, The Armed Republic of Sino
From: Larea dinAthos, Head of Interspecies Relations and Assistant Director of Foriegn Relaions

Only five stars? A little scant, don't you think? Also we have concerns regarding the security of the annexed territory.

What the hell do you want as additions?! A goddamn nude beach?! This is Sino, a nation of decency. There will be no whores on our lands, not even whores from your lands.OOC: :shock:

IC: Of course not... I meant that you only have a ranking of five stars. I would assume that a resort set up for world leaders would be six or seven stars...

OOC 2: Yes. There is one 7 star hotel in RL. It is the Burj Al Arab along the Persian Gulf.
Sino
14-12-2003, 07:33
OOC: I don't know what she may look like but that ugly old skank's cellulite is not a pretty sight, especially for a very stressed thirty-three year old (General Liu) who works 12 hours daily and has rather conservative and reserved tastes in females.

OOC: Hehehe...

She looks like this:
(Ugly picture)



OOC: I think I'm going to be bloody sick, just like the General!
Sino
14-12-2003, 07:39
To: Foriegn Relations, The Armed Republic of Sino
From: Larea dinAthos, Head of Interspecies Relations and Assistant Director of Foriegn Relaions

Only five stars? A little scant, don't you think? Also we have concerns regarding the security of the annexed territory.

What the hell do you want as additions?! A goddamn nude beach?! This is Sino, a nation of decency. There will be no whores on our lands, not even whores from your lands.OOC: :shock:

IC: Of course not... I meant that you only have a ranking of five stars. I would assume that a resort set up for world leaders would be six or seven stars...

OOC 2: Yes. There is one 7 star hotel in RL. It is the Burj Al Arab along the Persian Gulf.

OOC: Dammit! Good leaders should be ascetic. If General Liu ever comes to stay there, he'd probably be fine living in the janitor's closet.

OOC 2: I thought you were thinking about some hellhole like Hedonism II in Jamaica. Where the others stars be represent nudity and indecent entertainment. My apologies for the misunderstanding.
Sino
14-12-2003, 07:42
Following Chen Shui Bian's return to the Presidency, Taiwan has halted discussions regarding investments.

Since when did we say that we need the toilet paper that your separatists call money! Bugger off, Chen. If you come here, I'll kill ya!
Yalta
14-12-2003, 08:59
Do they have to be the actual leader, or can they be high ranking?
Peng-Pau
14-12-2003, 13:48
OOC: I don't know what she may look like but that ugly old skank's cellulite is not a pretty sight, especially for a very stressed thirty-three year old (General Liu) who works 12 hours daily and has rather conservative and reserved tastes in females.

OOC: Hehehe...

She looks like this:
(Ugly picture)



OOC: I think I'm going to be bloody sick, just like the General!

OOC: *Gets Sino an eye test.*
Sino
14-12-2003, 20:49
Do they have to be the actual leader, or can they be high ranking?

Leaders could be high ranking officials, senior military commanders, even monarchs. Best of all, we intend to serve past and present leaders. As long as they can pay the fees, they're allowed through the door (or doors).
Sino
14-12-2003, 21:00
BUMP
Sino
14-12-2003, 21:02
OOC: I don't know what she may look like but that ugly old skank's cellulite is not a pretty sight, especially for a very stressed thirty-three year old (General Liu) who works 12 hours daily and has rather conservative and reserved tastes in females.

OOC: Hehehe...

She looks like this:
(Ugly picture)



OOC: I think I'm going to be bloody sick, just like the General!

OOC: *Gets Sino an eye test.*

"I don't need some damn eye test, the results are always 20 20. I'm a marksman. Not to mention a sniper."

- General Liu
Sino
14-12-2003, 21:07
The Cαpιταlια's Office, Peng-Pau Parliamentary Headquarters, Dεiαiy, Peng-Pau...

"Oh cram it General." grumbled the capitalia in reply to the feeble attempt at a stab from the dictator. "Here, a present from me to you. You look like you need it after all."

The Cαpιταlια attaches a few photos of herself modelling skimpy underwear to the message, smirking slightly, and sends it.

OOC: A small point, that comment was made in the war room, which is OOC knowledge only... So basically there's no way that Liu could have known it.

"Sir, we've received some inappropriate materials from the leader of Peng-pau!" The secretary bursted into his office, halting at a salute.

"At ease, soldier." The General returns the salute.

He checks the materials. Both hands cupped over his mouth.

"I need a barf bag, dammit! Of my many years as an officer, this is the most disgusting I've seen."

The Cαpιταlια's Office, Peng-Pau Parliamentary Headquarters, Dεiαiy, Peng-Pau...

Delaria chuckles at a slightly rude reply from the General to her previous message.

"Ah, I do apologise, you Sinoese prefer your women more St. Bernard than Supermodel."

OOC: I prefer White girls.

IC:

"At my level, I guess I'll take pleasure in warfare and power, not sex."

- General Liu
Sino
14-12-2003, 21:15
Sino
14-12-2003, 21:29
The Cαpιταlια's Office, Peng-Pau Parliamentary Headquarters, Dεiαiy, Peng-Pau...

"Oh cram it General." grumbled the capitalia in reply to the feeble attempt at a stab from the dictator. "Here, a present from me to you. You look like you need it after all."

The Cαpιταlια attaches a few photos of herself modelling skimpy underwear to the message, smirking slightly, and sends it.

OOC: A small point, that comment was made in the war room, which is OOC knowledge only... So basically there's no way that Liu could have known it.

"Sir, we've received some inappropriate materials from the leader of Peng-pau!" The secretary bursted into his office, halting at a salute.

"At ease, soldier." The General returns the salute.

He checks the materials. Both hands cupped over his mouth.

"I need a barf bag, dammit! Of my many years as an officer, this is the most disgusting I've seen."

The Cαpιταlια's Office, Peng-Pau Parliamentary Headquarters, Dεiαiy, Peng-Pau...

Delaria chuckles at a slightly rude reply from the General to her previous message.

"Ah, I do apologise, you Sinoese prefer your women more St. Bernard than Supermodel."

Maybe, this image causes the men of Peng-Pau to be gay...
Sino
14-12-2003, 21:47
Ling Zhou Construction and Architectural Corp. has offcially announced today, that a one kilometer long small arms range will be added to the facility, as the hotel is likely to accomodate military leaders. A wide range of Chinese and foreign firearms will be available.
Hawking
14-12-2003, 22:06
Maybe, this image causes the men of Peng-Pau to be gay...
OOC: The image isn't that bad. And what would be the problem with the possible side-effect that you brought up anyway? Exactly - nil.
Hawking
14-12-2003, 22:06
Maybe, this image causes the men of Peng-Pau to be gay...
OOC: The image isn't that bad. And what would be the problem with the possible side-effect that you brought up anyway? Exactly - nil.
Sino
14-12-2003, 22:08
Wow, there would be an opening party and banquet right? A free one night stay?lol!

Well, can we open shops on the resort island?or watever?

There will be an opening ceremony and a night of partying. Chairman Yeh of Xiaguo, being a close ally of Sino is allowed to stay there whenever he likes for the price of U.S.$0.00!

Numerous commercial opportunities have sprung up, we are considering to allow foreign firms to open up gift shops and their own cafes on the complex. As for the fat leaders, don't worry, McDonalds will be there. LOL!
Sino
14-12-2003, 22:10
BUMP
Peng-Pau
14-12-2003, 23:02
Maybe, this image causes the men of Peng-Pau to be gay...
OOC: The image isn't that bad. And what would be the problem with the possible side-effect that you brought up anyway? Exactly - nil.

OOC: Our friend here Mr. Sino has a little problem with gay people. Ironic really, someone he knows very well and likes a lot who uses this site is gay.
Sino
14-12-2003, 23:52
Maybe, this image causes the men of Peng-Pau to be gay...
OOC: The image isn't that bad. And what would be the problem with the possible side-effect that you brought up anyway? Exactly - nil.

OOC: Our friend here Mr. Sino has a little problem with gay people. Ironic really, someone he knows very well and likes a lot who uses this site is gay.

OOC: I have no idea who are you referring to as that someone. If you're callin' me gay, I suggest ya watch your mouth! I'm not gay and I never will be, so put your sick thoughts away! If I catch ya firin' your 'pump action shotgun' at the image of General Liu, I won't kick your ass (it wouldn't hurt for gays), I will make sure that you die in the most godawfully painful manner.

OOC 2: The name's Liu and it's Mr. Liu to you (General Liu when IC).
Sino
15-12-2003, 00:02
BUMP
Sino
15-12-2003, 00:08
As a gesture of goodwill, Gen. Liu has allowed President Farrow of Hawking to be added to the list of leaders that can stay for free.
Sino
15-12-2003, 00:23
Did we mention that the families of leaders are also welcomed?
Sino
15-12-2003, 00:23
BUMP
15-12-2003, 00:32
OOC: I have no idea who are you referring to as that someone. If you're callin' me gay, I suggest ya watch your mouth! I'm not gay and I never will be, so put your sick thoughts away! If I catch ya firin' your shotgun at my image, I won't kick your ass (it wouldn't hurt for gays), I will make sure that you die in the most godawfully painful manner.

OOC 2: The name's Liu and it's Mr. Liu to you (General Liu when IC).OOC: I find those statements to be rather offensive. He was saying someone you know and like on this site is gay, he wasn't calling you gay.
15-12-2003, 00:32
OOC: I have no idea who are you referring to as that someone. If you're callin' me gay, I suggest ya watch your mouth! I'm not gay and I never will be, so put your sick thoughts away! If I catch ya firin' your shotgun at my image, I won't kick your ass (it wouldn't hurt for gays), I will make sure that you die in the most godawfully painful manner.

OOC 2: The name's Liu and it's Mr. Liu to you (General Liu when IC).OOC: I find those statements to be rather offensive. He was saying someone you know and like on this site is gay, he wasn't calling you gay.
Anti-Nazis
15-12-2003, 00:55
BUMP

Make your bookings now!

My nations soon to be-ended President is going on his last vacation for the Christmas Holiday.He will be staying there for 1 week. Telegram the bill.I will not be disturbed by the high prices.No Fancy Crap.I don't want you to be an enemy if your resort is good.

You can build a chain of the resorts.You can get a space of land for your hotel by my state-of-the-art beach
Sino
15-12-2003, 01:00
BUMP

Make your bookings now!

My nations soon to be-ended President is going on his last vacation for the Christmas Holiday.He will be staying there for 1 week. Telegram the bill.I will not be disturbed by the high prices.No Fancy Crap.I don't want you to be an enemy if your resort is good.

You can build a chain of the resorts.You can get a space of land for your hotel by my state-of-the-art beach

Being one of our first customers you are most welcomed. Be sure to enjoy our facilities as we will even have a smalls arms range. For beign the first to book, your President and his fellow visitors (family, spouse, bodyguards, etc.) will receive a 50% discount!
Anti-Nazis
15-12-2003, 01:13
He and his wife are coming with 4 bodyguards.And your range,does it have it's own guns and what kind of guns do you have if you do. Do you take credit cards?
Sino
15-12-2003, 02:29
He and his wife are coming with 4 bodyguards.And your range,does it have it's own guns and what kind of guns do you have if you do. Do you take credit cards?

We've got Chinese Type 56 to Type 95. Sniper rifles (Type 88s, SVDs, M40s, SIGs, etc.) and pistols (Type 54 to the new QSZ 92 .45 and numerous foreign brands like SOCOM, Beretta and Colt and all sorts of 9mm and .45s). We even allow the firing of Chinese LAWs (PF-89 and PF-98 and even the Chinese double-tube FHJ-94 (2x 62mm) spec-ops LAW. Even machineguns and submachine guns are allowed.

Most of the arms available should be on:

- http://www.sinodefence.com/army/individual/individual.asp
- http://www.sinodefence.com/army/crewserved/crewserved.asp
- http://world.guns.ru/main-e.htm

We also have a range for trapshooting with a wide range of civilian and CT shotguns available.

We also welcome the leaders to bring their own weapons provided that only use them on the range. Our guards may shoot to wound if firearms arms are in any way misused on our premise.

Mind having some friendly competition with the General (an active sniper of the ARSA)? General Liu carries a pair of QSZ-92 9mms and another pair of QSZ-92 .45s. All four are of limited edition with jade encrusted in the handles. Also Type 88-II (7.62x51mm) sniper rifle and Type 85-III (9x19mm) SMG with optional supressor.
Sino
15-12-2003, 03:15
BUMP
Sino
15-12-2003, 03:16
BUMP
Hawking
15-12-2003, 03:29
As a gesture of goodwill, Gen. Liu has allowed President Farrow of Hawking to be added to the list of leaders that can stay for free.
The President gratefully accepts this offer and will fly into the annexxed Uubland to stay at the hotel for a hopefully lengthy period as soon as it is opened.
Sino
15-12-2003, 04:23
BUMP
Sino
15-12-2003, 08:01
BUMP
Sinless
15-12-2003, 08:43
We have already once again examined Your offer. It looks sensible. Expect our officials as one of firsts guests. :wink:
We suppose, that despite Sino is atheists country, You will have nothing against selfflagellation in privat rooms? :roll:
With regard
Sino
15-12-2003, 08:49
We have already once again examined Your offer. It looks sensible. Expect our officials as one of firsts guests. :wink:
We suppose, that despite Sino is atheists country, You will have nothing against selfflagellation in privat rooms? :roll:
With regard

I don't think our medics would treat patients who had been abusing themselves by such an uncivilized and unscientific practice of self flagellation. If our security forces ever heap the screams of pain, regardless of whether you have your clothes on, they will burst in.
Peng-Pau
15-12-2003, 19:00
Maybe, this image causes the men of Peng-Pau to be gay...
OOC: The image isn't that bad. And what would be the problem with the possible side-effect that you brought up anyway? Exactly - nil.

OOC: Our friend here Mr. Sino has a little problem with gay people. Ironic really, someone he knows very well and likes a lot who uses this site is gay.

OOC: I have no idea who are you referring to as that someone. If you're callin' me gay, I suggest ya watch your mouth! I'm not gay and I never will be, so put your sick thoughts away! If I catch ya firin' your 'pump action shotgun' at the image of General Liu, I won't kick your ass (it wouldn't hurt for gays), I will make sure that you die in the most godawfully painful manner.

OOC 2: The name's Liu and it's Mr. Liu to you (General Liu when IC).

OOC: My my, someone has issues...

No, I wasn't calling you gay. Read: Someone you know and like. And please don't flatter General Liu. I prefer my men young, good looking, and generally not psychopathic.
15-12-2003, 20:33
bump! is it complete yet?
Sino
16-12-2003, 00:56
Maybe, this image causes the men of Peng-Pau to be gay...
OOC: The image isn't that bad. And what would be the problem with the possible side-effect that you brought up anyway? Exactly - nil.

OOC: Our friend here Mr. Sino has a little problem with gay people. Ironic really, someone he knows very well and likes a lot who uses this site is gay.

OOC: I have no idea who are you referring to as that someone. If you're callin' me gay, I suggest ya watch your mouth! I'm not gay and I never will be, so put your sick thoughts away! If I catch ya firin' your 'pump action shotgun' at the image of General Liu, I won't kick your ass (it wouldn't hurt for gays), I will make sure that you die in the most godawfully painful manner.

OOC 2: The name's Liu and it's Mr. Liu to you (General Liu when IC).

OOC: My my, someone has issues...

No, I wasn't calling you gay. Read: Someone you know and like. And please don't flatter General Liu. I prefer my men young, good looking, and generally not psychopathic.

OOC: So you are gay!
Sino
16-12-2003, 00:56
16-12-2003, 01:02
I like to make reservations at this hotel.I shall get packed up and ready immediately.
16-12-2003, 01:07
Can I bring with my fiancee? We...uh....wish to get more accquainted, if you know what I mean
16-12-2003, 01:11
BUMP
Sino
16-12-2003, 01:28
Maybe, this image causes the men of Peng-Pau to be gay...
OOC: The image isn't that bad. And what would be the problem with the possible side-effect that you brought up anyway? Exactly - nil.

OOC: Our friend here Mr. Sino has a little problem with gay people. Ironic really, someone he knows very well and likes a lot who uses this site is gay.

OOC: I have no idea who are you referring to as that someone. If you're callin' me gay, I suggest ya watch your mouth! I'm not gay and I never will be, so put your sick thoughts away! If I catch ya firin' your 'pump action shotgun' at the image of General Liu, I won't kick your ass (it wouldn't hurt for gays), I will make sure that you die in the most godawfully painful manner.

OOC 2: The name's Liu and it's Mr. Liu to you (General Liu when IC).

OOC: My my, someone has issues...

No, I wasn't calling you gay. Read: Someone you know and like. And please don't flatter General Liu. I prefer my men young, good looking, and generally not psychopathic.

OOC: You are gay!
Peng-Pau
16-12-2003, 01:30
Maybe, this image causes the men of Peng-Pau to be gay...
OOC: The image isn't that bad. And what would be the problem with the possible side-effect that you brought up anyway? Exactly - nil.

OOC: Our friend here Mr. Sino has a little problem with gay people. Ironic really, someone he knows very well and likes a lot who uses this site is gay.

OOC: I have no idea who are you referring to as that someone. If you're callin' me gay, I suggest ya watch your mouth! I'm not gay and I never will be, so put your sick thoughts away! If I catch ya firin' your 'pump action shotgun' at the image of General Liu, I won't kick your ass (it wouldn't hurt for gays), I will make sure that you die in the most godawfully painful manner.

OOC 2: The name's Liu and it's Mr. Liu to you (General Liu when IC).

OOC: My my, someone has issues...

No, I wasn't calling you gay. Read: Someone you know and like. And please don't flatter General Liu. I prefer my men young, good looking, and generally not psychopathic.

OOC: So you are gay!

OOC: Well done!

Someone give the child a cookie!
Sino
16-12-2003, 01:33
Sino
16-12-2003, 01:33
Can I bring with my fiancee? We...uh....wish to get more accquainted, if you know what I mean

OOC (seriously): I don't know what you mean by getting more acquainted. Please explain.

IC: Please read the fine print more carefully as the construction is due to complete in at least a month's time.
Sino
16-12-2003, 01:34
Can I bring with my fiancee? We...uh....wish to get more accquainted, if you know what I mean

OOC (seriously): I don't know what you mean by getting more acquainted. Please explain.

IC: Please read the fine print more carefully as the construction is due to complete in at least a month's time.
Sino
16-12-2003, 01:34
Can I bring with my fiancee? We...uh....wish to get more accquainted, if you know what I mean

OOC (seriously): I don't know what you mean by getting more acquainted. Please explain.

IC: Please read the fine print more carefully as the construction is due to complete in at least a month's time.
Sino
16-12-2003, 01:35
Can I bring with my fiancee? We...uh....wish to get more accquainted, if you know what I mean

OOC (seriously): I don't know what you mean by getting more acquainted. Please explain.

IC: Please read the fine print more carefully as the construction is due to complete in at least a month's time.
Sino
16-12-2003, 01:39
Maybe, this image causes the men of Peng-Pau to be gay...
OOC: The image isn't that bad. And what would be the problem with the possible side-effect that you brought up anyway? Exactly - nil.

OOC: Our friend here Mr. Sino has a little problem with gay people. Ironic really, someone he knows very well and likes a lot who uses this site is gay.

OOC: I have no idea who are you referring to as that someone. If you're callin' me gay, I suggest ya watch your mouth! I'm not gay and I never will be, so put your sick thoughts away! If I catch ya firin' your 'pump action shotgun' at the image of General Liu, I won't kick your ass (it wouldn't hurt for gays), I will make sure that you die in the most godawfully painful manner.

OOC 2: The name's Liu and it's Mr. Liu to you (General Liu when IC).

OOC: My my, someone has issues...

No, I wasn't calling you gay. Read: Someone you know and like. And please don't flatter General Liu. I prefer my men young, good looking, and generally not psychopathic.

OOC: So you are gay!

OOC: Well done!

Someone give the child a cookie!

OOC: I don't like anyone that plays NS nor do I know them very well, so your statement can not be established.

OOC 2: So that is the reason why you RP your leader as a woman.

OOC 3: I'm not going to insult you directly but do try to decipher a word from this mixture of letters: OGATGF.

ROFL!
Sino
16-12-2003, 02:05
BUMP
Sino
16-12-2003, 03:18
BUMP
Sino
16-12-2003, 03:35
BUMP
Hawking
16-12-2003, 05:55
OOC: I don't like anyone that plays NS nor do I know them very well, so your statement can not be established.
Oi! :lol:

OOC 2: So that is the reason why you RP your leader as a woman.
Note that not all gays are 'effeminate' as you say and seem to generalistically believe.

OOC 3: I'm not going to insult you directly but do try to decipher a word from this mixture of letters: OGATFG.

ROFL!
Not funny, discriminator.
Sino
16-12-2003, 07:18
OOC: I don't like anyone that plays NS nor do I know them very well, so your statement can not be established.
Oi! :lol:

OOC 2: So that is the reason why you RP your leader as a woman.
Note that not all gays are 'effeminate' as you say and seem to generalistically believe.

OOC 3: I'm not going to insult you directly but do try to decipher a word from this mixture of letters: OGATGF.

ROFL!
Not funny, discriminator.

OOC 1: I never said I like commies very much so I suggest that you do some analysis.

OOC 2: They're either closet, effeminate or convict-style (violent and willing to rape a fellow man).

OOC 3: Oh come on! Don't you see the humor?
Sino
16-12-2003, 07:20
BUMP
Hawking
16-12-2003, 08:10
OOC 1: I never said I like commies very much so I suggest that you do some analysis.
We're still friends.

OOC 2: They're either closet, effeminate or convict-style (violent and willing to rape a fellow man).
Not in all cases. Anyway, what is actually wrong with the first two? When a gay person is in the closet, they feel the need to be so in order to avoid the scalding wrath of the narrow-minded, intolerant society that they no doubt live in. Femininity is to do with the personality of the individual. So what if they're less 'fantastically' macho as the traditional male stereotypes? Exactly, it doesn't matter. Diversity is what makes the world interesting, and trying to force everybody to conform to a 'norm' or something else along those lines is just silly.

OOC 3: Oh come on! Don't you see the humor?
I find it about as funny as the reference to a dark-skinned person with the N-word, which I dare not say in full. It is discrimination and discrimination is not a joke.
Ariddia
16-12-2003, 11:58
No person from the PDSRA shall be attending, due to ideological differences. It so happens we do not like gay-bashers or racists (which a previous comment of yours seems to make you).

We would suggest other nations might also wish to refrain from accepting this invitation.


OOC:
I'm straight and white, but I don't like discrimination and narrow-mindedness, and your comments, Sino, disgust me.
Sino
16-12-2003, 23:51
No person from the PDSRA shall be attending, due to ideological differences. It so happens we do not like gay-bashers or racists (which a previous comment of yours seems to make you).

We would suggest other nations might also wish to refrain from accepting this invitation.


OOC:
I'm straight and white, but I don't like discrimination and narrow-mindedness, and your comments, Sino, disgust me.

OOC: Don't listen to the narrow-minded commie (Hawking). He's a narrow-minded libertarian hippie. LOL
Sino
16-12-2003, 23:52
No person from the PDSRA shall be attending, due to ideological differences. It so happens we do not like gay-bashers or racists (which a previous comment of yours seems to make you).

We would suggest other nations might also wish to refrain from accepting this invitation.


OOC:
I'm straight and white, but I don't like discrimination and narrow-mindedness, and your comments, Sino, disgust me.

OOC: Don't listen to the narrow-minded commie (Hawking). He's a narrow-minded libertarian hippie. LOL
Sino
16-12-2003, 23:54
BUMP
Sino
16-12-2003, 23:58
No person from the PDSRA shall be attending, due to ideological differences. It so happens we do not like gay-bashers or racists (which a previous comment of yours seems to make you).

We would suggest other nations might also wish to refrain from accepting this invitation.


OOC:
I'm straight and white, but I don't like discrimination and narrow-mindedness, and your comments, Sino, disgust me.

OOC: When did I make a racist comment?
Sino
16-12-2003, 23:59
No person from the PDSRA shall be attending, due to ideological differences. It so happens we do not like gay-bashers or racists (which a previous comment of yours seems to make you).

We would suggest other nations might also wish to refrain from accepting this invitation.


OOC:
I'm straight and white, but I don't like discrimination and narrow-mindedness, and your comments, Sino, disgust me.

OOC: When did I make a racist comment?
Sino
17-12-2003, 00:01
No person from the PDSRA shall be attending, due to ideological differences. It so happens we do not like gay-bashers or racists (which a previous comment of yours seems to make you).

We would suggest other nations might also wish to refrain from accepting this invitation.


OOC:
I'm straight and white, but I don't like discrimination and narrow-mindedness, and your comments, Sino, disgust me.

OOC: When did I make a racist comment?
Sino
17-12-2003, 00:01
No person from the PDSRA shall be attending, due to ideological differences. It so happens we do not like gay-bashers or racists (which a previous comment of yours seems to make you).

We would suggest other nations might also wish to refrain from accepting this invitation.


OOC:
I'm straight and white, but I don't like discrimination and narrow-mindedness, and your comments, Sino, disgust me.

OOC: When did I make a racist comment?
Peng-Pau
17-12-2003, 01:47
OOC: I don't like anyone that plays NS nor do I know them very well, so your statement can not be established.
Oi! :lol:

OOC: Sino, I can think of a few people who have confessed to knowing you and liking you quite well OOC. Don't lie.

OOC 2: So that is the reason why you RP your leader as a woman.
Note that not all gays are 'effeminate' as you say and seem to generalistically believe.

OOC: Actually, Delaria is a one off. Usually I just roleplay a queen. This time I made it a her.

Offline I'm pretty much your average person, except that everyone knows I'm gay, and everyone was shocked because it was unexpected, and no-one I've met so far bar one person had a problem with it.

OOC 3: I'm not going to insult you directly but do try to decipher a word from this mixture of letters: FAGGOT.

ROFL!
Not funny, discriminator.

OOC: Yay!!! Do I get points for deciphering it?

OOC 1: I never said I like commies very much so I suggest that you do some analysis.

OOC: I can't really comment on this...

OOC 2: They're either closet, effeminate or convict-style (violent and willing to rape a fellow man).

OOC: Not really, occasionally you get gays who you really can't tell.

OOC 3: Oh come on! Don't you see the humor?

OOC: Not really... It's a direct insult, even if it's encrypted.

I could say 'να είστε ήρεμος εσείς διανοητικώς καθυστερημένος' and no-one would be any the wiser...
Peng-Pau
17-12-2003, 01:57
Peng-Pau
17-12-2003, 02:03
No person from the PDSRA shall be attending, due to ideological differences. It so happens we do not like gay-bashers or racists (which a previous comment of yours seems to make you).

We would suggest other nations might also wish to refrain from accepting this invitation.


OOC:
I'm straight and white, but I don't like discrimination and narrow-mindedness, and your comments, Sino, disgust me.

OOC: When did I make a racist comment?

OOC: See: Comments refering to picture posted of Delaria.
Hawking
17-12-2003, 04:49
No person from the PDSRA shall be attending, due to ideological differences. It so happens we do not like gay-bashers or racists (which a previous comment of yours seems to make you).

We would suggest other nations might also wish to refrain from accepting this invitation.


OOC:
I'm straight and white, but I don't like discrimination and narrow-mindedness, and your comments, Sino, disgust me.

OOC: Don't listen to the narrow-minded commie (Hawking). He's a narrow-minded libertarian hippie. LOL
What you quoted Arridia as saying has nothing to do with me, so why must you reply to his statement with a personal attack on yours truly? I consider myself very open-minded. At least I'm willing to listen to other people's opinions and accept cultural diversity. You refuse to think of homosexuals as 'real' human beings, and also seem disgustingly racist towards and unacceptant of Middle Eastern people. I don't see how you can call me narrow-minded, given your own nature. Yes, I am a libertarian socialist (or am I? I've decided I don't care much for politically titling myself). But can't you just accept that and leave it alone, despite our ideological differences, rather than making personal attacks on me?
_Taiwan
17-12-2003, 08:49
OOC: Why don't you two talk it over via MSN or something? This is General Forum material.
Sino
18-12-2003, 00:27
No person from the PDSRA shall be attending, due to ideological differences. It so happens we do not like gay-bashers or racists (which a previous comment of yours seems to make you).

We would suggest other nations might also wish to refrain from accepting this invitation.


OOC:
I'm straight and white, but I don't like discrimination and narrow-mindedness, and your comments, Sino, disgust me.

OOC: Don't listen to the narrow-minded commie (Hawking). He's a narrow-minded libertarian hippie. LOL
What you quoted Arridia as saying has nothing to do with me, so why must you reply to his statement with a personal attack on yours truly? I consider myself very open-minded. At least I'm willing to listen to other people's opinions and accept cultural diversity. You refuse to think of homosexuals as 'real' human beings, and also seem disgustingly racist towards and unacceptant of Middle Eastern people. I don't see how you can call me narrow-minded, given your own nature. Yes, I am a libertarian socialist (or am I? I've decided I don't care much for politically titling myself). But can't you just accept that and leave it alone, despite our ideological differences, rather than making personal attacks on me?

OOC: I am not racist to Middle Eastern people. The reason I get annoyed at you is because of your narrow-minded defense of war criminals like Saddam and bin Laden. You are narrow-minded in a libertarian way, a way in which you continue to insult and attack the U.S. relentlessly despite the good that the U.S. has presented to mankind. if you don't like America then you can throw your PC (which I'm sure is Windows) out the frickin' window!

OOC 2: Homosexualism can not be considered a culture. So I suggest you revise that. They are of a different and unacceptable sexual orientation.

OOC 3: I'm not narrow-minded. There is a difference between narrow-mindedness and having a sense of opinion. Narrow-minded people don't even comment.

OOC 4: Libertarianism is like a disease it disintergrates and destroys society slowly. Enlightened conservatism must be revivied to ensure our social survival.

OOC: We are suppose to be discussing about the damn hotel; not queers or the man behind General Liu. I'm tired of so much damn OOC crap that is about Sino or Liu!
Sino
18-12-2003, 00:36
No person from the PDSRA shall be attending, due to ideological differences. It so happens we do not like gay-bashers or racists (which a previous comment of yours seems to make you).

We would suggest other nations might also wish to refrain from accepting this invitation.


OOC:
I'm straight and white, but I don't like discrimination and narrow-mindedness, and your comments, Sino, disgust me.

OOC: Don't listen to the narrow-minded commie (Hawking). He's a narrow-minded libertarian hippie. LOL
What you quoted Arridia as saying has nothing to do with me, so why must you reply to his statement with a personal attack on yours truly? I consider myself very open-minded. At least I'm willing to listen to other people's opinions and accept cultural diversity. You refuse to think of homosexuals as 'real' human beings, and also seem disgustingly racist towards and unacceptant of Middle Eastern people. I don't see how you can call me narrow-minded, given your own nature. Yes, I am a libertarian socialist (or am I? I've decided I don't care much for politically titling myself). But can't you just accept that and leave it alone, despite our ideological differences, rather than making personal attacks on me?

OOC: I am not racist to Middle Eastern people. The reason I get annoyed at you is because of your narrow-minded defense of war criminals like Saddam and bin Laden and calling them "heroes". You are narrow-minded in a libertarian way, a way in which you continue to insult and attack the U.S. relentlessly despite the good that the U.S. has presented to mankind. If you don't like America then you can throw your PC (which I'm sure is Windows) out the frickin' window!

OOC 2: Homosexualism can not be considered a culture. So I suggest you revise that. They are of a different and unacceptable sexual orientation.

OOC 3: I'm not narrow-minded. There is a difference between narrow-mindedness and having a sense of opinion. Narrow-minded people don't even comment.

OOC 4: Libertarianism is like a disease it disintergrates and destroys society slowly. Enlightened conservatism must be revivied to ensure our social survival.

OOC: We are suppose to be discussing about the damn hotel; not queers or the man behind General Liu. I'm tired of so much damn OOC crap that is about Sino or Liu!
Sino
18-12-2003, 00:37
No person from the PDSRA shall be attending, due to ideological differences. It so happens we do not like gay-bashers or racists (which a previous comment of yours seems to make you).

We would suggest other nations might also wish to refrain from accepting this invitation.


OOC:
I'm straight and white, but I don't like discrimination and narrow-mindedness, and your comments, Sino, disgust me.

OOC: Don't listen to the narrow-minded commie (Hawking). He's a narrow-minded libertarian hippie. LOL
What you quoted Arridia as saying has nothing to do with me, so why must you reply to his statement with a personal attack on yours truly? I consider myself very open-minded. At least I'm willing to listen to other people's opinions and accept cultural diversity. You refuse to think of homosexuals as 'real' human beings, and also seem disgustingly racist towards and unacceptant of Middle Eastern people. I don't see how you can call me narrow-minded, given your own nature. Yes, I am a libertarian socialist (or am I? I've decided I don't care much for politically titling myself). But can't you just accept that and leave it alone, despite our ideological differences, rather than making personal attacks on me?

OOC: I am not racist to Middle Eastern people. The reason I get annoyed at you is because of your narrow-minded defense of war criminals like Saddam and bin Laden and calling them "heroes". You are narrow-minded in a libertarian way, a way in which you continue to insult and attack the U.S. relentlessly despite the good that the U.S. has presented to mankind. If you don't like America then you can throw your PC (which I'm sure is Windows) out the frickin' window!

OOC 2: Homosexualism can not be considered a culture. So I suggest you revise that. They are of a different and unacceptable sexual orientation.

OOC 3: I'm not narrow-minded. There is a difference between narrow-mindedness and having a sense of opinion. Narrow-minded people don't even comment.

OOC 4: Libertarianism is like a disease it disintergrates and destroys society slowly. Enlightened conservatism must be revivied to ensure our social survival.

OOC: We are suppose to be discussing about the damn hotel; not queers or the man behind General Liu. I'm tired of so much damn OOC crap that is about Sino or Liu!
Sino
18-12-2003, 00:39
No person from the PDSRA shall be attending, due to ideological differences. It so happens we do not like gay-bashers or racists (which a previous comment of yours seems to make you).

We would suggest other nations might also wish to refrain from accepting this invitation.


OOC:
I'm straight and white, but I don't like discrimination and narrow-mindedness, and your comments, Sino, disgust me.

OOC: Don't listen to the narrow-minded commie (Hawking). He's a narrow-minded libertarian hippie. LOL
What you quoted Arridia as saying has nothing to do with me, so why must you reply to his statement with a personal attack on yours truly? I consider myself very open-minded. At least I'm willing to listen to other people's opinions and accept cultural diversity. You refuse to think of homosexuals as 'real' human beings, and also seem disgustingly racist towards and unacceptant of Middle Eastern people. I don't see how you can call me narrow-minded, given your own nature. Yes, I am a libertarian socialist (or am I? I've decided I don't care much for politically titling myself). But can't you just accept that and leave it alone, despite our ideological differences, rather than making personal attacks on me?

OOC: I am not racist to Middle Eastern people. The reason I get annoyed at you is because of your narrow-minded defense of war criminals like Saddam and bin Laden and calling them "heroes". You are narrow-minded in a libertarian way, a way in which you continue to insult and attack the U.S. relentlessly despite the good that the U.S. has presented to mankind. If you don't like America then you can throw your PC (which I'm sure is Windows) out the frickin' window!

OOC 2: Homosexualism can not be considered a culture. So I suggest you revise that. They are of a different and unacceptable sexual orientation.

OOC 3: I'm not narrow-minded. There is a difference between narrow-mindedness and having a sense of opinion. Narrow-minded people don't even comment.

OOC 4: Libertarianism is like a disease, it disintergrates and destroys society slowly. Enlightened conservatism must be revivied to ensure our social survival.

OOC: We are suppose to be discussing about the damn hotel; not queers or the man behind General Liu. I'm tired of so much damn OOC crap that is about Sino or Liu!
Sino
18-12-2003, 00:39
No person from the PDSRA shall be attending, due to ideological differences. It so happens we do not like gay-bashers or racists (which a previous comment of yours seems to make you).

We would suggest other nations might also wish to refrain from accepting this invitation.


OOC:
I'm straight and white, but I don't like discrimination and narrow-mindedness, and your comments, Sino, disgust me.

OOC: Don't listen to the narrow-minded commie (Hawking). He's a narrow-minded libertarian hippie. LOL
What you quoted Arridia as saying has nothing to do with me, so why must you reply to his statement with a personal attack on yours truly? I consider myself very open-minded. At least I'm willing to listen to other people's opinions and accept cultural diversity. You refuse to think of homosexuals as 'real' human beings, and also seem disgustingly racist towards and unacceptant of Middle Eastern people. I don't see how you can call me narrow-minded, given your own nature. Yes, I am a libertarian socialist (or am I? I've decided I don't care much for politically titling myself). But can't you just accept that and leave it alone, despite our ideological differences, rather than making personal attacks on me?

OOC: I am not racist to Middle Eastern people. The reason I get annoyed at you is because of your narrow-minded defense of war criminals like Saddam and bin Laden and calling them "heroes". You are narrow-minded in a libertarian way, a way in which you continue to insult and attack the U.S. relentlessly despite the good that the U.S. has presented to mankind. If you don't like America then you can throw your PC (which I'm sure is Windows) out the frickin' window!

OOC 2: Homosexualism can not be considered a culture. So I suggest you revise that. They are of a different and unacceptable sexual orientation.

OOC 3: I'm not narrow-minded. There is a difference between narrow-mindedness and having a sense of opinion. Narrow-minded people don't even comment.

OOC 4: Libertarianism is like a disease, it disintergrates and destroys society slowly. Enlightened conservatism must be revivied to ensure our social survival.

OOC: We are suppose to be discussing about the damn hotel; not queers or the man behind General Liu. I'm tired of so much damn OOC crap that is about Sino or Liu!
Sino
18-12-2003, 00:53
BUMP
Hawking
18-12-2003, 09:45
OOC: I am not racist to Middle Eastern people. The reason I get annoyed at you is because of your narrow-minded defense of war criminals like Saddam and bin Laden and calling them "heroes". You are narrow-minded in a libertarian way, a way in which you continue to insult and attack the U.S. relentlessly despite the good that the U.S. has presented to mankind. If you don't like America then you can throw your PC (which I'm sure is Windows) out the frickin' window!
You refer to Middle Eastern people as "goddamn A-rabs." I think that says enough. I have not once called Saddam or bin Laden "heroes" but defend them only in the slight because they stand, albeit somewhat feebly, in the way of the true threat that is the United States of America. I do not agree with their social policies at all and I understand that they are war criminals. But take a look at the USA -- the waging of the latest war on Iraq was in direct violation of international laws, as well as being the invasion of a sovereign nation which has nothing to do with and posed little to no threat to their falsely free homeland. The US government are war criminals.
OOC 2: Homosexualism can not be considered a culture. So I suggest you revise that. They are of a different and unacceptable sexual orientation.
Fine then, it's social rather than cultural diversity. Or maybe you would prefer to call it sexual diversity. But whatever you call it, people should have a right to be who they are and not be oppressed and slandered because they are of a minority. "Ooh, that person's different! Scary! Let's shoot or indoctrinate or jail them!" Yeah, real good and progressive and socially just.
OOC 3: I'm not narrow-minded. There is a difference between narrow-mindedness and having a sense of opinion. Narrow-minded people don't even comment.
And I comment frequently, at least in real life. So on what grounds did you call me narrow-minded earlier in this thread?
OOC 4: Libertarianism is like a disease, it disintergrates and destroys society slowly. Enlightened conservatism must be revivied to ensure our social survival.
Good, now I know your opinion and I will stick to mine.
OOC: We are suppose to be discussing about the damn hotel; not queers or the man behind General Liu. I'm tired of so much damn OOC crap that is about Sino or Liu!
Alright, so you want us to shut up now. That's good, we would've been disrupting this thread if there had been anything else happening in it. It was a good discussion anyway, I enjoyed it. Cheers.
Sino
18-12-2003, 22:01
OOC: I am not racist to Middle Eastern people. The reason I get annoyed at you is because of your narrow-minded defense of war criminals like Saddam and bin Laden and calling them "heroes". You are narrow-minded in a libertarian way, a way in which you continue to insult and attack the U.S. relentlessly despite the good that the U.S. has presented to mankind. If you don't like America then you can throw your PC (which I'm sure is Windows) out the frickin' window!
You refer to Middle Eastern people as "goddamn A-rabs." I think that says enough. I have not once called Saddam or bin Laden "heroes" but defend them only in the slight because they stand, albeit somewhat feebly, in the way of the true threat that is the United States of America. I do not agree with their social policies at all and I understand that they are war criminals. But take a look at the USA -- the waging of the latest war on Iraq was in direct violation of international laws, as well as being the invasion of a sovereign nation which has nothing to do with and posed little to no threat to their falsely free homeland. The US government are war criminals.
OOC 2: Homosexualism can not be considered a culture. So I suggest you revise that. They are of a different and unacceptable sexual orientation.
Fine then, it's social rather than cultural diversity. Or maybe you would prefer to call it sexual diversity. But whatever you call it, people should have a right to be who they are and not be oppressed and slandered because they are of a minority. "Ooh, that person's different! Scary! Let's shoot or indoctrinate or jail them!" Yeah, real good and progressive and socially just.
OOC 3: I'm not narrow-minded. There is a difference between narrow-mindedness and having a sense of opinion. Narrow-minded people don't even comment.
And I comment frequently, at least in real life. So on what grounds did you call me narrow-minded earlier in this thread?
OOC 4: Libertarianism is like a disease, it disintergrates and destroys society slowly. Enlightened conservatism must be revivied to ensure our social survival.
Good, now I know your opinion and I will stick to mine.
OOC: We are suppose to be discussing about the damn hotel; not queers or the man behind General Liu. I'm tired of so much damn OOC crap that is about Sino or Liu!
Alright, so you want us to shut up now. That's good, we would've been disrupting this thread if there had been anything else happening in it. It was a good discussion anyway, I enjoyed it. Cheers.

OOC 1: You know that I enjoy making voice impersonations. I was simply imitating an American after 9/11 "Goddamn A-rabs." And you laughed, so does that make you racist too?

In quoting in context to your words only days ago, "Poor Saddam! He was captured... he was the first line of defence against the Galactic Imperialist American Empire." Is that not praising that sick scum?

OOC 2: I do believe in freedom and diversity, but not when it reaches levels that pose a thread to the national image of a people, nation or society. Cultural diversity is fine by me, but not when it's gay parades everyday.

OOC 3: Liberalism was progressive but it has now gotten to a point where even some of the most basic morals are being dissolved away.

OOC 4: Yes I do want you to shut the hell up and stop disrupting my thread. Hawking, go unplug your PC and treat yourself to a big bowl of brown!
Sino
18-12-2003, 22:02
Sino
18-12-2003, 22:12
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Hawking
19-12-2003, 10:27
OOC 1: You know that I enjoy making voice impersonations. I was simply imitating an American after 9/11 "Goddamn A-rabs." And you laughed, so does that make you racist too?
The part that I found amusing was the fact that it was a reasonably accurate imitation of some American soldiers serving their government and capitalist elite in Iraq. I say some American soldiers, because not all were like that. But anyway, you have used the 'goddamn A-rab' term on other occasions too, such as the other day when you said something like "If I were white, I'd be pleased that America's kicking goddamn A-rab asses!" That's not an exact quote, but what you said was something along those lines.

In quoting in context to your words only days ago, "Poor Saddam! He was captured... he was the first line of defence against the Galactic Imperialist American Empire." Is that not praising that sick scum?
I don't recall calling him 'Poor Saddam.' I may have said it, but if I did I don't recall. But think, the Sinoese Military Junta is a lot like Saddam's former government except for economic policies. And Sino don't gas Kurds, they just execute communists, homosexuals, drink drivers or other people who they see as 'degenerates,' and promote military dictatorship.

OOC 2: I do believe in freedom and diversity, but not when it reaches levels that pose a thread to the national image of a people, nation or society. Cultural diversity is fine by me, but not when it's gay parades everyday.
There are not gay parades every day. They're held barely once a year in most places, and the primary reason that a minority of homosexuals choose to take part in these celebrations is because they are so alienated by much of society that they take pride in themselves. This forms what would be similar, albeit in possibly a smaller scale, to a nationalist movement if you will. Another reason that these parades occur is that homosexuals want to show that they are a part of society that is not going to go away, no matter what is done, and so you need to accept them for who they are.

OOC 3: Liberalism was progressive but it has now gotten to a point where even some of the most basic morals are being dissolved away.
That actually struck a chord with me, that makes a bit of sense I think.

EDIT: But wait. What are 'morals'? How do you define 'morals'? 8)

OOC 4: Yes I do want you to shut the hell up and stop disrupting my thread. Hawking, go unplug your PC and treat yourself to a big bowl of brown!
Alright, I'll shut the hell up and stop disrupting your thread in which I am not actually disrupting anything. :) But I'm not going to unplug my PC because that would mean I would have to plug it in again when I want to get back on it, m'kay? I've been wage-slaving all day anyway, this is my short time I can use the PC before sleep. As for that 'bowl of brown' -- yeah. OK, I'll eat Coco Pops tomorrow morning. :lol:
Sino
20-12-2003, 21:46
OOC 1: You know that I enjoy making voice impersonations. I was simply imitating an American after 9/11 "Goddamn A-rabs." And you laughed, so does that make you racist too?
The part that I found amusing was the fact that it was a reasonably accurate imitation of some American soldiers serving their government and capitalist elite in Iraq. I say some American soldiers, because not all were like that. But anyway, you have used the 'goddamn A-rab' term on other occasions too, such as the other day when you said something like "If I were white, I'd be pleased that America's kicking goddamn A-rab asses!" That's not an exact quote, but what you said was something along those lines.

In quoting in context to your words only days ago, "Poor Saddam! He was captured... he was the first line of defence against the Galactic Imperialist American Empire." Is that not praising that sick scum?
I don't recall calling him 'Poor Saddam.' I may have said it, but if I did I don't recall. But think, the Sinoese Military Junta is a lot like Saddam's former government except for economic policies. And Sino don't gas Kurds, they just execute communists, homosexuals, drink drivers or other people who they see as 'degenerates,' and promote military dictatorship.

OOC 2: I do believe in freedom and diversity, but not when it reaches levels that pose a thread to the national image of a people, nation or society. Cultural diversity is fine by me, but not when it's gay parades everyday.
There are not gay parades every day. They're held barely once a year in most places, and the primary reason that a minority of homosexuals choose to take part in these celebrations is because they are so alienated by much of society that they take pride in themselves. This forms what would be similar, albeit in possibly a smaller scale, to a nationalist movement if you will. Another reason that these parades occur is that homosexuals want to show that they are a part of society that is not going to go away, no matter what is done, and so you need to accept them for who they are.

OOC 3: Liberalism was progressive but it has now gotten to a point where even some of the most basic morals are being dissolved away.
That actually struck a chord with me, that makes a bit of sense I think.

EDIT: But wait. What are 'morals'? How do you define 'morals'? 8)

OOC 4: Yes I do want you to shut the hell up and stop disrupting my thread. Hawking, go unplug your PC and treat yourself to a big bowl of brown!
Alright, I'll shut the hell up and stop disrupting your thread in which I am not actually disrupting anything. :) But I'm not going to unplug my PC because that would mean I would have to plug it in again when I want to get back on it, m'kay? I've been wage-slaving all day anyway, this is my short time I can use the PC before sleep. As for that 'bowl of brown' -- yeah. OK, I'll eat Coco Pops tomorrow morning. :lol:

OOC 1: You do not insult capitalism, you goddamn subhuman!

OOC 2: Saddam's regime was one of dictatorship with no purpose. The Sinoese Military Junta is nothing like that. We promote militant Chinese nationalism with capitalism and morality as overwatch. Saddam's regime was one of pure oppression. Sino's regime is one of serving the people and in doing so, we must root out the degenerates.

OOC 3: Are you being philospically stupid again? If you do not know what is morality, then why bother living like you do now? We all have a sense of morals.

OOC 4: You should be grateful that you have a friggin' job! (I don't.) So you should not call it wage-slaving as I'm sure that your contract entitles you to resign whenever you may choose to do so. As for that bowl of borwn, I didn't say it was Coco Pops (although it does resemble crap).
Sino
20-12-2003, 21:48
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Hawking
21-12-2003, 06:50
OOC 1: You do not insult capitalism, you goddamn subhuman!
I am just as human as the next person, no matter what ideological position I hold.

OOC 2: Saddam's regime was one of dictatorship with no purpose. The Sinoese Military Junta is nothing like that. We promote militant Chinese nationalism with capitalism and morality as overwatch. Saddam's regime was one of pure oppression. Sino's regime is one of serving the people and in doing so, we must root out the degenerates.
Where 'degenerates' are, more often than not, innocent people. I don't see how the Sinoese Military Junta is serving the people when they have no civil rights or political freedoms whatsoever. I'd say that it is the people who are serving the government. If one of our nations' governments is slave-driving, it's definitely Sino's.

OOC 3: Are you being philospically stupid again? If you do not know what is morality, then why bother living like you do now? We all have a sense of morals.
I do not adhere to a rigid list of rules that I have written for myself. I merely go with my gut feeling of what is right, just and good.

OOC 4: You should be grateful that you have a friggin' job! (I don't.) So you should not call it wage-slaving as I'm sure that your contract entitles you to resign whenever you may choose to do so. As for that bowl of borwn, I didn't say it was Coco Pops (although it does resemble crap).
Now that I'm employed, I'm at the mercy (or lack thereof) of capitalism. It is essentially an obligation for one to work, however mindless they feel their task is, under this system, as those who do not are viciously punished. I'm now trapped, a slave, albeit one who is treated reasonably well, unlike those in Sino's Ugrantian labour camps. Oh, and we were out of Coco Pops.
Sino
22-12-2003, 09:19
OOC 1: You do not insult capitalism, you goddamn subhuman!
I am just as human as the next person, no matter what ideological position I hold.

OOC 2: Saddam's regime was one of dictatorship with no purpose. The Sinoese Military Junta is nothing like that. We promote militant Chinese nationalism with capitalism and morality as overwatch. Saddam's regime was one of pure oppression. Sino's regime is one of serving the people and in doing so, we must root out the degenerates.
Where 'degenerates' are, more often than not, innocent people. I don't see how the Sinoese Military Junta is serving the people when they have no civil rights or political freedoms whatsoever. I'd say that it is the people who are serving the government. If one of our nations' governments is slave-driving, it's definitely Sino's.

OOC 3: Are you being philospically stupid again? If you do not know what is morality, then why bother living like you do now? We all have a sense of morals.
I do not adhere to a rigid list of rules that I have written for myself. I merely go with my gut feeling of what is right, just and good.

OOC 4: You should be grateful that you have a friggin' job! (I don't.) So you should not call it wage-slaving as I'm sure that your contract entitles you to resign whenever you may choose to do so. As for that bowl of borwn, I didn't say it was Coco Pops (although it does resemble crap).
Now that I'm employed, I'm at the mercy (or lack thereof) of capitalism. It is essentially an obligation for one to work, however mindless they feel their task is, under this system, as those who do not are viciously punished. I'm now trapped, a slave, albeit one who is treated reasonably well, unlike those in Sino's Ugrantian labour camps. Oh, and we were out of Coco Pops.

OOC: You are a slave then you will not be paid for your work. Therefore, you can not ridicule your position as slavery, you ignorant libertarian scum.
Sino
22-12-2003, 09:27
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Hawking
22-12-2003, 19:26
OOC: You are a slave then you will not be paid for your work. Therefore, you can not ridicule your position as slavery, you ignorant libertarian scum.
Very well, I'll call it wage labour rather than wave-slavery. The former is the proper term anyway, I was merely exaggerating it. Again you call me ignorant, despite the fact that I am not.
Sino
23-12-2003, 07:45
OOC: You are a slave then you will not be paid for your work. Therefore, you can not ridicule your position as slavery, you ignorant libertarian scum.
Very well, I'll call it wage labour rather than wave-slavery. The former is the proper term anyway, I was merely exaggerating it. Again you call me ignorant, despite the fact that I am not.

OOC: Ignorant enough to embrace anarchist liberalism.
Sino
23-12-2003, 07:46
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Hawking
23-12-2003, 08:17
OOC: Ignorant enough to embrace anarchist liberalism.
Liberalism just suits my nature. It's nothing to do with ignorance, as conservatives like to think and say.
_Taiwan
23-12-2003, 08:18
OOC: Everyone's on right now. Are the other guys who play NS from our school on?
Hawking
23-12-2003, 09:38
Who else from school plays NationStates? I thought it was pretty much just you, me and Sino.
Lazy Catboys
23-12-2003, 13:33
OOC: I am not racist to Middle Eastern people. The reason I get annoyed at you is because of your narrow-minded defense of war criminals like Saddam and bin Laden and calling them "heroes". You are narrow-minded in a libertarian way, a way in which you continue to insult and attack the U.S. relentlessly despite the good that the U.S. has presented to mankind. If you don't like America then you can throw your PC (which I'm sure is Windows) out the frickin' window!

Do not Get me wrong on this, but Sadam was a hero in his youth, I almost feel sorry for him for what he's become, he was a warror then, now he's pathetic, no warrior spirit

/random intervention that holds no relevence.
Hawking
23-12-2003, 20:33
Do not Get me wrong on this, but Sadam was a hero in his youth, I almost feel sorry for him for what he's become, he was a warror then, now he's pathetic, no warrior spirit

/random intervention that holds no relevence.
You actually have a very valid point there. Thanks for contributing it.
Hawking
23-12-2003, 20:33
Do not Get me wrong on this, but Sadam was a hero in his youth, I almost feel sorry for him for what he's become, he was a warror then, now he's pathetic, no warrior spirit

/random intervention that holds no relevence.
You actually have a very valid point there. Thanks for contributing it.
Sino
24-12-2003, 02:36
OOC: How can you say that? Saddam was no hero. In his early political career, he was simply a gun for hire.
Sino
24-12-2003, 02:42
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Hawking
25-12-2003, 08:49
OOC: How can you say that? Saddam was no hero. In his early political career, he was simply a gun for hire.
He was, and still actually is, a hero to many people, and really it's the people that count (although they didn't count to Saddam).

I personally do not see Saddam as a hero, but although he was a vicious oppressor of the people of Iraq, I see that his government was at least a bulwark which stood in the way of the threat of US imperialism to the greater portion Earth population, both human or otherwise.

http://www.gwbush.com/store/images/blackwhite/capitalism.gif
Sino
25-12-2003, 22:09
OOC: How can you say that? Saddam was no hero. In his early political career, he was simply a gun for hire.
He was, and still actually is, a hero to many people, and really it's the people that count (although they didn't count to Saddam).

I personally do not see Saddam as a hero, but although he was a vicious oppressor of the people of Iraq, I see that his government was at least a bulwark which stood in the way of the threat of US imperialism to the greater portion Earth population, both human or otherwise.

http://www.gwbush.com/store/images/blackwhite/capitalism.gif

If Saddam was such a hero then why did many of his own people celebrate wildly over the news of his capture? Saddam can be regarded as a dictatorial loser; a far cry from the exploits of Hitler or Stalin.

If capitalism was great in theory and does not work in practice then, does your brain prefer socialism/communism to compensate. Capitalism works and works too freakin' well. So what if 90% of the world's wealth is owned by 10% of the world's population, at least 10% of the world's people are not living in poverty.
Hawking
25-12-2003, 22:50
If Saddam was such a hero then why did many of his own people celebrate wildly over the news of his capture? Saddam can be regarded as a dictatorial loser; a far cry from the exploits of Hitler or Stalin.
Many of his own people celebrated the news of his capture because it meaned that they would be safe and no longer tormented by the man. As for Hitler and Stalin, I feel they marred the sensible names of their respective ideals.

If capitalism was great in theory and does not work in practice then, does your brain prefer socialism/communism to compensate. Capitalism works and works too freakin' well. So what if 90% of the world's wealth is owned by 10% of the world's population, at least 10% of the world's people are not living in poverty.
But what about the rest of the people; the people who are living in poverty, the people who will never be able to move up the social ladder because of the way they are being exploited by the Corporate Elite? Do they not matter? Under true communism, 100% of the people on Earth would be assured of not having to live in poverty. That's the ideal I believe in. You seem to speak as if I've some kind of Soviet, or North Korean bureaucrat, or human rights-abusing Maoist who calls themself a communist. Sorry, but no.

Capitalism didn't work in practice, it failed 90% of humanity and drove them into mindless labour that has no effect on their own lives except the accumulation of a tiny amount of wealth. It even drove some of them into what is basically slavery - employment in Southeast Asian countries under American corporations.
Sino
26-12-2003, 06:22
If Saddam was such a hero then why did many of his own people celebrate wildly over the news of his capture? Saddam can be regarded as a dictatorial loser; a far cry from the exploits of Hitler or Stalin.
Many of his own people celebrated the news of his capture because it meaned that they would be safe and no longer tormented by the man. As for Hitler and Stalin, I feel they marred the sensible names of their respective ideals.

If capitalism was great in theory and does not work in practice then, does your brain prefer socialism/communism to compensate. Capitalism works and works too freakin' well. So what if 90% of the world's wealth is owned by 10% of the world's population, at least 10% of the world's people are not living in poverty.
But what about the rest of the people; the people who are living in poverty, the people who will never be able to move up the social ladder because of the way they are being exploited by the Corporate Elite? Do they not matter? Under true communism, 100% of the people on Earth would be assured of not having to live in poverty. That's the ideal I believe in. You seem to speak as if I've some kind of Soviet, or North Korean bureaucrat, or human rights-abusing Maoist who calls themself a communist. Sorry, but no.

Capitalism didn't work in practice, it failed 90% of humanity and drove them into mindless labour that has no effect on their own lives except the accumulation of a tiny amount of wealth. It even drove some of them into what is basically slavery - employment in Southeast Asian countries under American corporations.

Communism means spoon-feeding the population to a point where they become too lazy and have no incentive to work hard. Is that advancing up the social ladder. Marxist communism is a pipedream made up by some bearded German. It is not possible as people prefer ownership of property, as well as wealth and power. Therefore, communism- in all forms, is subhuman.
Hawking
27-12-2003, 08:35
Communism means spoon-feeding the population to a point where they become too lazy and have no incentive to work hard. Is that advancing up the social ladder. Marxist communism is a pipedream made up by some bearded German. It is not possible as people prefer ownership of property, as well as wealth and power. Therefore, communism- in all forms, is subhuman.
Communism means a system of organisation based on common ownership by the people, democratic control by all, self-government, production for use and NOT for sale, and free access to all goods and services for ALL of the people. I quote from the World Socialist Party of New Zealand Web site:

"Socialism will be a society in which satisfying an individual's self interest is the result of satisfying everyone's needs. It is enlightened self-interest that will work for the majority."

Thanks. I know you're not going to come across to this point of view, but at least say that you accept that me and many, many other people in this world hold a similar point of view; and that the ideal is not Stalinism as you always make it out to be. Don't be like Bush and pretend, now.

EDIT: And in regards to what you said about moving up the social ladder: there is no social ladder under true communism. Society would be classless.
Bonstock
27-12-2003, 09:35
Generalfeldmarschall Gustavus Adolphus, President of Bonstock, would like to reserve a room in your hotel. It is to be the site of the victory party when Japann surrenders. Invite the leaders of EAst ISlandia, Agrigento, and Red Tide, too, and yourself, of course, General Lui. Bring plenty of Sinoese hookers... this IS a party.
27-12-2003, 13:22
Hello,
I would like to introduce myself.
I am Mikko Lando,The minister of travel for the king of Lumuria.
I noticed your advertisement for the grand opening of your hotel for world leaders. I would like to reserve a suite for the grand opening of your hotel for my king, John J. He would be bringing an entourage of servents to maintain his level of comfort and self indulgence. Rooms for at leat 15 people including a seperate room for the king and his consort would be needed for this first stay. The servents may sleep 2 or 3 to a room. Money is no problem and I would be willing to pay extra for a suite on "indefinite retainer" for his majesty, so he may jet in whenever the need arises. He is a very old and ancient man and enjoys relaxation at posh 5+ star properties through out the world.

Looking forward to a reply.

Warmest regards,
Mikko Laundo
Minister of travel
Kingdom of Lumuria
Region of Carmarthenshire
Nation States
imported_Xiaguo
27-12-2003, 18:18
I salute you Hawking!
Communism is not Subhuman. All forms of government is not subhuman, it is a better form of organisation then of just beating animals with sticks to get food.
True communism will never have anyone go lazy. Capitalism will. If you are rich everything is going fine, nothing to worry about, dead-lazy.
Communism however targets everyone to self govern themselves and if everyone does that, then there wouldnt be a need to be lazy because everyone has the same level of class and there will be know need to lay on the capitalist junk.
Sino
27-12-2003, 20:38
Generalfeldmarschall Gustavus Adolphus, President of Bonstock, would like to reserve a room in your hotel. It is to be the site of the victory party when Japann surrenders. Invite the leaders of EAst ISlandia, Agrigento, and Red Tide, too, and yourself, of course, General Lui. Bring plenty of Sinoese hookers... this IS a party.

Sure! We can organize parties, but NO HOOKERS. We're a moralistic society. We've mown them down in MG fire just like we did with the Japannese P.O.Ws. LOL
Sino
27-12-2003, 20:41
Hello,
I would like to introduce myself.
I am Mikko Lando,The minister of travel for the king of Lumuria.
I noticed your advertisement for the grand opening of your hotel for world leaders. I would like to reserve a suite for the grand opening of your hotel for my king, John J. He would be bringing an entourage of servents to maintain his level of comfort and self indulgence. Rooms for at leat 15 people including a seperate room for the king and his consort would be needed for this first stay. The servents may sleep 2 or 3 to a room. Money is no problem and I would be willing to pay extra for a suite on "indefinite retainer" for his majesty, so he may jet in whenever the need arises. He is a very old and ancient man and enjoys relaxation at posh 5+ star properties through out the world.

Looking forward to a reply.

Warmest regards,
Mikko Laundo
Minister of travel
Kingdom of Lumuria
Region of Carmarthenshire
Nation States

The hotel is due to open in one month's time. There will be a new thread regarding its grand opening party.
Sino
27-12-2003, 21:06
I salute you Hawking!
Communism is not Subhuman. All forms of government is not subhuman, it is a better form of organisation then of just beating animals with sticks to get food.
True communism will never have anyone go lazy. Capitalism will. If you are rich everything is going fine, nothing to worry about, dead-lazy.
Communism however targets everyone to self govern themselves and if everyone does that, then there wouldnt be a need to be lazy because everyone has the same level of class and there will be know need to lay on the capitalist junk.

Chairman Yeh, that's very contradictory of you to say that. Communism is also the elimination of individualism. So therefore, how can we "govern ourselves"? Society should be classed and structured just like ranks int he military. Classes are fine in society, provided that no real classes are downtrodden. It is of the inferior communist mentality that the rich capitalists are lazy while infact, they are the ones that toil through the days and even nights to do finish all the admin, manage the finances, make sure that their employees are paid. And also, paying their taxes to make sure that public works are done and the nation's defence forces are funded. Therefore entrepreneurs are not lazy at all. They may have worked hard in the first place to set up their business (which is a lot of stress), so therefore, the should be free to relax and enjoy their profits.

Under true communism, if a brain surgeon is paid the same as a janitor, would he maintain the incentive to oven work as the brain surgeon, let alone consider that as a career? True communism is true unequalty! unequalty where people do not get what they deserve! All forms of communism is tyranny.

- General Liu (speech is accompanied by Hitler-style hand movements)
Sino
27-12-2003, 21:22
Communism means spoon-feeding the population to a point where they become too lazy and have no incentive to work hard. Is that advancing up the social ladder. Marxist communism is a pipedream made up by some bearded German. It is not possible as people prefer ownership of property, as well as wealth and power. Therefore, communism- in all forms, is subhuman.
Communism means a system of organisation based on common ownership by the people, democratic control by all, self-government, production for use and NOT for sale, and free access to all goods and services for ALL of the people. I quote from the World Socialist Party of New Zealand Web site:

"Socialism will be a society in which satisfying an individual's self interest is the result of satisfying everyone's needs. It is enlightened self-interest that will work for the majority."

Thanks. I know you're not going to come across to this point of view, but at least say that you accept that me and many, many other people in this world hold a similar point of view; and that the ideal is not Stalinism as you always make it out to be. Don't be like Bush and pretend, now.

EDIT: And in regards to what you said about moving up the social ladder: there is no social ladder under true communism. Society would be classless.

- Productions is ultimately for use after selling. The labor worked into the product should be satisfied with payment. Otherwise, that is slavery.

- How can one satisfying his own interest be also satisfying the rest of society? People have differing views towards their interests therefore, this generates conflict.

- It is the discimination under communism that there should be no social ladder. By all means, people who work hard should also be rewarded socially.

"The pursuit of equality is the destruction of excellence."
Sino
27-12-2003, 21:28
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Hawking
28-12-2003, 05:48
Chairman Yeh, that's very contradictory of you to say that. Communism is also the elimination of individualism. So therefore, how can we "govern ourselves"? Society should be classed and structured just like ranks int he military. Classes are fine in society, provided that no real classes are downtrodden. It is of the inferior communist mentality that the rich capitalists are lazy while infact, they are the ones that toil through the days and even nights to do finish all the admin, manage the finances, make sure that their employees are paid. And also, paying their taxes to make sure that public works are done and the nation's defence forces are funded. Therefore entrepreneurs are not lazy at all. They may have worked hard in the first place to set up their business (which is a lot of stress), so therefore, the should be free to relax and enjoy their profits.

Under true communism, if a brain surgeon is paid the same as a janitor, would he maintain the incentive to oven work as the brain surgeon, let alone consider that as a career? True communism is true unequalty! unequalty where people do not get what they deserve! All forms of communism is tyranny.

- General Liu (speech is accompanied by Hitler-style hand movements)
Who the hell do you think you are calling Chairman Yeh contradictory, when in your very own reply to his post (which was NOT, by the way, contradictory--you merely don't know what true communism is because you haven't bothered to listen or find out) you were contradicting yourself. You said that all forms of communism is tyranny (which it is NOT), when you yourself have pro-tyrannic views. And then you added to the end of your post the description of you using Hitler-style gestures. Hitler was a tyrant, I'm sorry to say. Please, don't go trying to kick the arses of things that you don't even know the true meaning of.

President Farrow salutes Chairman Yeh and departs.
Bonstock
28-12-2003, 05:56
Generalfeldmarschall Gustavus Adolphus, President of Bonstock, would like to reserve a room in your hotel. It is to be the site of the victory party when Japann surrenders. Invite the leaders of EAst ISlandia, Agrigento, and Red Tide, too, and yourself, of course, General Lui. Bring plenty of Sinoese hookers... this IS a party.

Sure! We can organize parties, but NO HOOKERS. We're a moralistic society. We've mown them down in MG fire just like we did with the Japannese P.O.Ws. LOL
Ah, man, what's a party with no hookers? :lol:
Sino
29-12-2003, 01:30
Chairman Yeh, that's very contradictory of you to say that. Communism is also the elimination of individualism. So therefore, how can we "govern ourselves"? Society should be classed and structured just like ranks int he military. Classes are fine in society, provided that no real classes are downtrodden. It is of the inferior communist mentality that the rich capitalists are lazy while infact, they are the ones that toil through the days and even nights to do finish all the admin, manage the finances, make sure that their employees are paid. And also, paying their taxes to make sure that public works are done and the nation's defence forces are funded. Therefore entrepreneurs are not lazy at all. They may have worked hard in the first place to set up their business (which is a lot of stress), so therefore, the should be free to relax and enjoy their profits.

Under true communism, if a brain surgeon is paid the same as a janitor, would he maintain the incentive to oven work as the brain surgeon, let alone consider that as a career? True communism is true unequalty! unequalty where people do not get what they deserve! All forms of communism is tyranny.

- General Liu (speech is accompanied by Hitler-style hand movements)
Who the hell do you think you are calling Chairman Yeh contradictory, when in your very own reply to his post (which was NOT, by the way, contradictory--you merely don't know what true communism is because you haven't bothered to listen or find out) you were contradicting yourself. You said that all forms of communism is tyranny (which it is NOT), when you yourself have pro-tyrannic views. And then you added to the end of your post the description of you using Hitler-style gestures. Hitler was a tyrant, I'm sorry to say. Please, don't go trying to kick the arses of things that you don't even know the true meaning of.

President Farrow salutes Chairman Yeh and departs.

Communism is F.U.B.A.R. in all forms. My actions are not tyrannic, but rather as disciplinary. Communism in its 'truest' (accroding to that bastard Marx), is a pipedream. Why chase dreams that are impossible to realize? You commies are wasting your time.

Oh come on! We all admit that Hitler's hand gestures draw attention to the speaker. Mussolini had a similar fashion when giving speeches.Even if I'm not a neo-Nazi, I still think that Hitler's hand gestures are very powerful.
Sino
29-12-2003, 01:59
Generalfeldmarschall Gustavus Adolphus, President of Bonstock, would like to reserve a room in your hotel. It is to be the site of the victory party when Japann surrenders. Invite the leaders of EAst ISlandia, Agrigento, and Red Tide, too, and yourself, of course, General Lui. Bring plenty of Sinoese hookers... this IS a party.

Sure! We can organize parties, but NO HOOKERS. We're a moralistic society. We've mown them down in MG fire just like we did with the Japannese P.O.Ws. LOL
Ah, man, what's a party with no hookers? :lol:

*Gen. Liu reads the list like giving a briefing to his troops- clear and precise.*

Why is Prositution Banned (that goes for striptease as well):

1. Hookers are vermins because they carry and spread sexually transmitted disease.

2. Prostitution is a subculture of drug abuse and addiction.

3. Prostitution is immoral and undermines relatioonships.

4. Prostitutes are generally unattractive and ugly looking.

5. Hookers are vulnerable to attacks on women.

6. Hookers are the ultimate image of women being objectified.

7. Sex cannot be brought or sold as a service.

8. Hookers neglect their health. Therefore, helping to lower health standards.

9. Hookers are often underpaid (lower than minimum wage- on a yearly basis).

10. The appearance of hookers corrupt our national image and undermine our policies of national discipline.

11. No man in the right mind wants to screw a goddamn hooker!

*General Liu finishes with emphasis on the last point.*

You can still party without the drugs, booze and hookers. Hookers ruin the party afterwards- when you check to see if you've been infected. LOL

Is the president of Bonstock, General Adolphus, not married? I didn't know leaders can be that immoral.

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OOC: Bonstock, if you've had a recent liaison with a whore in RL, I suggest you get yourself down to men's clinic right now and check for any sexual infections.
imported_Xiaguo
29-12-2003, 05:19
Sino, may I reserve some rooms?
I will like reserve 3 suites, the best, and a meeting lounge, hall. Thank you.
Sino
30-12-2003, 04:59
Sino, may I reserve some rooms?
I will like reserve 3 suites, the best, and a meeting lounge, hall. Thank you.

Damn. We have yet to decide on the price.
Sino
02-01-2004, 00:19
BUMP
Sino
05-01-2004, 09:15
BUMP

Grand opening in three weeks!
Sino
05-01-2004, 23:39
Sino
05-01-2004, 23:40
BUMP

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=111721&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

For more details regarding the grand opening please check the above link.
Sino
05-01-2004, 23:40
BUMP

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=111721&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

For more details regarding the grand opening please check the above link.
Corneliu
06-01-2004, 00:43
OOC Comment first: After reading about 6 pages of crap, I'm this close to having it locked up. Enough of the OOC Comments about crap that has nothing to do with this thread. anymore like it and I will ask for it to be locked up.

IC:

I the President of Corneliu would love to attend the opening weekend. My wife will also be attending. I hope that this is acceptable.

John Featherston
President of Corneliu
imported_Xiaguo
06-01-2004, 05:18
President Yeh and the first Lady will attend including Prime Minister Dao and Wife, Secretary Shin, Emperor Kim and Empress Wu, and 100 government officials and selected Guards.

Total-107 persons

So I think make that 7Suites, and 85 rooms. The Money will be wired when confirmed and also we would like to present Sino with a Medal of Guidance for the help granted to the fields of Government. And also a A A 24k Gold Sculpture of Cranes to bring prosperity to your newly erected Hotels.
And once again for your support.
_Taiwan
06-01-2004, 08:08
Colonel Zhang Fu Guo would like to make reservations for 4 single suites and 2 double suites. A sizeable entourage will be accompanying him.
_Taiwan
06-01-2004, 08:08
Colonel Zhang Fu Guo would like to make reservations for 4 single suites and 2 double suites. A sizeable entourage will be accompanying him.
Sino
06-01-2004, 22:31
We have confirmed the arrival of personnel from Xiaguo and _Taiwan. Just remember the accomodation fees (per night):

- U.S.$4,000 family and spouse
- U.S.$3,000 guards
- U.S.$4,500 the leaders

The luxury suits will cost 20% extra and the presidential suites will be 30% extra.
Sino
06-01-2004, 23:08
President Yeh and the first Lady will attend including Prime Minister Dao and Wife, Secretary Shin, Emperor Kim and Empress Wu, and 100 government officials and selected Guards.

Total-107 persons

So I think make that 7Suites, and 85 rooms. The Money will be wired when confirmed and also we would like to present Sino with a Medal of Guidance for the help granted to the fields of Government. And also a A A 24k Gold Sculpture of Cranes to bring prosperity to your newly erected Hotels.
And once again for your support.

We would like to thank Xiaguo for attending this event and the generous gifts of the medal and the sculpture.
Sino
06-01-2004, 23:08
President Yeh and the first Lady will attend including Prime Minister Dao and Wife, Secretary Shin, Emperor Kim and Empress Wu, and 100 government officials and selected Guards.

Total-107 persons

So I think make that 7Suites, and 85 rooms. The Money will be wired when confirmed and also we would like to present Sino with a Medal of Guidance for the help granted to the fields of Government. And also a A A 24k Gold Sculpture of Cranes to bring prosperity to your newly erected Hotels.
And once again for your support.

We would like to thank Xiaguo for attending this event and the generous gifts of the medal and the sculpture.
Sino
07-01-2004, 22:36
BUMP
Mercenary Soldiers
10-01-2004, 03:13
An email arrives at the registaration office.

To the registation... person...

Major Dekker Bray will arrive at your function, for much needed R&R. Bray stands at 6'2" and weighs around 280 lbs. As per his request, he would also like to know if there will be a firing range avaliable.


OOC: That work?
Hawking
11-01-2004, 02:22
President Farrow accepts Gen. Liu's offer of free patronage at the World Leaders Hotel and Resort graciously by requesting a presidential suite in which himself, his adopted son and his guards will stay. He plans to arrive, along with his company, in the Colony of Sinoese Winstonia on 1 February and to stay for as long as he can.

The president is expected to be in dire need of a vacation by the end of this month, as he will spend roughly two weeks of January taking part in the Hawking Foundation Day celebrations which commence on the nineteenth, the first anniversary of Hawking. He is extremely grateful to Gen. Liu for the opportunity to stay for free in the prestigious Sinoese facility.
Sino
12-01-2004, 02:29
An email arrives at the registaration office.

To the registation... person...

Major Dekker Bray will arrive at your function, for much needed R&R. Bray stands at 6'2" and weighs around 280 lbs. As per his request, he would also like to know if there will be a firing range avaliable.


OOC: That work?

OOC: Sure thing!

IC: What's his specialization in the military? I guess infantry (heavy weapons).
Sino
12-01-2004, 02:29
An email arrives at the registaration office.

To the registation... person...

Major Dekker Bray will arrive at your function, for much needed R&R. Bray stands at 6'2" and weighs around 280 lbs. As per his request, he would also like to know if there will be a firing range avaliable.


OOC: That work?

OOC: Sure thing!

IC: What's his specialization in the military? I guess infantry (heavy weapons).
Sino
12-01-2004, 02:30
An email arrives at the registaration office.

To the registation... person...

Major Dekker Bray will arrive at your function, for much needed R&R. Bray stands at 6'2" and weighs around 280 lbs. As per his request, he would also like to know if there will be a firing range avaliable.


OOC: That work?

OOC: Sure thing!

IC: What's his specialization in the military? I guess infantry (heavy weapons).
Sino
12-01-2004, 02:30
An email arrives at the registaration office.

To the registation... person...

Major Dekker Bray will arrive at your function, for much needed R&R. Bray stands at 6'2" and weighs around 280 lbs. As per his request, he would also like to know if there will be a firing range avaliable.


OOC: That work?

OOC: Sure thing!

IC: What's his specialization in the military? I guess infantry (heavy weapons).