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Worldwide Christian Conference [Christian Nations Only]

10-12-2003, 17:35
This is a conference of all Christian nations. Here, we will meet to discuss issues and regions and everything else concerning a Christian nation of NationStates. We are the United Missions League, an organization devoted to missionaries.

Here's how it works. Each willing Christian nation sends a leader or representative here. They interact in a conference building, discussing whatever as long as it is Christianity related or anything of concern to a Christian nation. You can advertise regions, organizations, or whatever as long as it stays on topic. You can discuss recent events and a lot of other stuff. Your leaders/representatives can interact, thus causing diplomatic relationships. If this conference is a success, there will be many more that follow.

Attendance List
United Missions League
Sancto
Nanakaland
Presgreif

NOTE: This is a conference of Christian nations. Only Christian nations and NO MORMONS OR JW!

Link 1 (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=100066)
Link 2 (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=100680)
10-12-2003, 17:42
The Holy Republic of Sancto will send a representative to the conference for several reasons:

1) We need to promote our Christian region.

2) We need to have diplomatic actions toward other Christian nations.

3) This is the only thing of its kind I've ever seen.
(Okay. So there's also a pagan conference. This is still the only open Christian conference I've seen.)

4) We would like to support our missionary brothers, the UML.

5) Maybe we could put together an alliance of different Christian regions and organizations.
Presgreif
10-12-2003, 17:42
Presgreif would be happy to send a representative to this conference.
10-12-2003, 17:52
We would have sent our President, but he is busy (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=101248). We'll send our Minister of Religion to the conference instead.
Presgreif
10-12-2003, 17:54
Well, that makes 4 of us already. UML, are you going to make a list to keep track of those attending? It might be helpful if we start getting a lot of people wanting to take part in this.
10-12-2003, 17:59
Well, that makes 4 of us already. UML, are you going to make a list to keep track of those attending? It might be helpful if we start getting a lot of people wanting to take part in this.

Nice idea. Editing in attendance list to the first post now.
Tanah Burung
10-12-2003, 18:05
It's not the first of its type -- there was just a long-running Catholic conference, for instance. However, Bishop Mangunvijaya of our church would be honoured to attend as part of his ongoing hope for greater Christian unity.
Krensavic
10-12-2003, 18:09
Well, I'd have to say I'd love to attend as well. All of our supreme court justices are Christians, I am, the Vice President is and most of our Military Generals are as well.
Athel Nora
10-12-2003, 18:35
If possible than Athel Nora will send a representive.
Presgreif
10-12-2003, 18:42
Well UML, it looks like there's alot of positive response to your initiative. It comes as a pleasant surprise to us, we are well and mightly pleased.
10-12-2003, 18:48
We are pleased that this thread has taken off. We hope that Christians can learn how to get along with each other better.
Tord
11-12-2003, 20:06
The Kingdom of Tord wishes to participate in this council as well, while the Queen may not be able to attend the conference herself, she would liek to send a representative Bishop to the conference.
(OOC: just as a note, Tord is a Kingdom where the church and government are one and the same)
Excalbia
11-12-2003, 20:31
Presiding Bishop Gunars Purins, leader of the Church of Excalbia, would like to attend on behalf of the Holy Empire of Excalbia. The Church of Excalbia is roughly Anglican in structure, but is closer to the Baptists in theology. While the Church of Excalbia is the state church of the Holy Empire, there are also a large number of Catholics, Baptists and others in Excalbia. Leaders of some of our other churches, such as John Cardinal Friesz, Catholic Archbishop of Citadel Excalbia, may wish to attend at a later time.
Tanah Burung
20-12-2003, 23:30
Advent bump.
20-12-2003, 23:57
Having the most widely-recognized Pope on NS (*winks at Whispering Voices*), we wish the convention luck. However, the ban on Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses is somewhat distasteful.
20-12-2003, 23:57
Having the most widely-recognized Pope on NS (*winks at Whispering Voices*), we wish the convention luck. However, the ban on Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses is somewhat distasteful.
21-12-2003, 00:03
The Holy Republic of Fubbia is more than willing to send a delegate
21-12-2003, 00:04
I can't help but ask, are Mormons allowed at this conference? :)
21-12-2003, 17:45
Having the most widely-recognized Pope on NS (*winks at Whispering Voices*), we wish the convention luck. However, the ban on Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses is somewhat distasteful.

Mormons are not Christians. They believe in polythiesm, not a Christian beleif. I understand the logic that no herisies are aloud. If cults want their own conference, then hold one.
Jeruselem
21-12-2003, 17:49
We had one these earlier except mostly Catholics decided to turn up.
As the founder of Defender of the Faith (a Catholic Alliance), we are sending Cardinal Augustus Brown to this meeting to represent us and the alliance.
Jeruselem
21-12-2003, 17:51
If possible than Athel Nora will send a representive.

Do it, the DotF needs some reps.
Neo Earth
21-12-2003, 17:51
Dear UML,

As a represenative from the Patriarch of the Neonic Orthodox Christian religion, I would like to attend this conference. The main reasons is to get along with other christians, to promote Neonic Christianity, and, the hopes of the divine emperor, create a pact with our fellow christians.

If you wish, I will send you a list of Neonic beliefs. If you allow me to come, please send the letter to the St. Coran Cathedrel.


Sincerly,
ArchBishop Susan Freltinis
21-12-2003, 17:52
I can't help but ask, are Mormons allowed at this conference? :)

Mormons are a cult. Cultists are not Christian. Mormons beleive in polytheism.

Mormonism teaches:
- God used to be a man on another planet and Mormon members may become gods of their own worlds.
- There are many gods.
- The Trinity is three separate Gods.
- Entrance into celestial heaven is by the consent of God and the Mormon prophet Joseph Smith.
- God has a body of flesh and bones.
- God is married and produces spirit babies by having physical relations with his goddess wife.
- Jesus, Satan, and all of us are spirit brothers and sisters procreated in a pre-existent spirit life.
- God had relations with Mary to make Jesus’ body.
- You must shed your own blood for the forgiveness of some sins.
- Good works are necessary for the forgiveness of sins.

Rarely will they mention these 'higher' doctrines. Therefore, you really don't know what they are teaching until long after you have joined.

Is that clear enough why Mormons are a non-Christian cult? Many of their teachings contradict with the core of Christianity. Don't make me also have to pull up something on the JWs.
Jeruselem
21-12-2003, 18:06
Just an idea, but the denomination in your listing to people work out how to approach each other when the conference starts.

We're Catholic.
21-12-2003, 19:04
Do you guys have to keep throwing this out? A simple yes or no would have been fine.I can't help but ask, are Mormons allowed at this conference? :)

Mormons are a cult. Cultists are not Christian. Mormons beleive in polytheism.

Mormonism teaches:
- God used to be a man on another planet and Mormon members may become gods of their own worlds.
- There are many gods.
- The Trinity is three separate Gods.
-[Wrong] Entrance into celestial heaven is by the consent of God and the Mormon prophet Joseph Smith.
-[Wrong] God has a body of flesh and bones.
-[Wrong] God is married and produces spirit babies by having physical relations with his goddess wife.
- Jesus, Satan, and all of us are spirit brothers and sisters procreated in a pre-existent spirit life.
-[Wrong] God had relations with Mary to make Jesus’ body.
-[Wrong] You must shed your own blood for the forgiveness of some sins.
-[Wrong] Good works are necessary for the forgiveness of sins.

-[Wrong] Rarely will they mention these 'higher' doctrines. Therefore, you really don't know what they are teaching until long after you have joined.

Is that clear enough why Mormons are a non-Christian cult? Many of their teachings contradict with the core of Christianity. Don't make me also have to pull up something on the JWs.If you're gonna throw crappy cult watch stuff at us, at least get things right.

And btw, does a religion of 11.5 million even count as a cult? :P

EDIT: And on a side note, we KNOW we aren't considered mainstream Christian, but we are followers of Christ nonetheless. How can you follow a definition of Christianity that Catholicism set forth? There are many other denominations...
Neo Earth
21-12-2003, 20:52
My dictionary's definition of a christian:

"one who believes in Jesus christ as the savor and follows his teaching"
21-12-2003, 20:57
The Republic of Chicoman would like to send a representative.
Galdania
21-12-2003, 21:02
We are an atheist nation, but will moniter this conference to be sure that no theist threats are present.

We are not hijacking, we are warning: YOU ARE BEING WATCHED>DOUBLETHINK
21-12-2003, 21:48
Do you guys have to keep throwing this out? A simple yes or no would have been fine.Mormons are a cult. Cultists are not Christian. Mormons beleive in polytheism.

Mormonism teaches:
- God used to be a man on another planet and Mormon members may become gods of their own worlds.
- There are many gods.
- The Trinity is three separate Gods.
-[Wrong] Entrance into celestial heaven is by the consent of God and the Mormon prophet Joseph Smith.
-[Wrong] God has a body of flesh and bones.
-[Wrong] God is married and produces spirit babies by having physical relations with his goddess wife.
- Jesus, Satan, and all of us are spirit brothers and sisters procreated in a pre-existent spirit life.
-[Wrong] God had relations with Mary to make Jesus’ body.
-[Wrong] You must shed your own blood for the forgiveness of some sins.
-[Wrong] Good works are necessary for the forgiveness of sins.

-[Wrong] Rarely will they mention these 'higher' doctrines. Therefore, you really don't know what they are teaching until long after you have joined.

Is that clear enough why Mormons are a non-Christian cult? Many of their teachings contradict with the core of Christianity. Don't make me also have to pull up something on the JWs.If you're gonna throw crappy cult watch stuff at us, at least get things right.

And btw, does a religion of 11.5 million even count as a cult? :P

EDIT: And on a side note, we KNOW we aren't considered mainstream Christian, but we are followers of Christ nonetheless. How can you follow a definition of Christianity that Catholicism set forth? There are many other denominations...

Now here's where it gets fun. First of all, I'm not Catholic, I'm Prysbeterian (sp?). Also, all of those points are correct.

Here are my sources:
Mormon Doctrine by Bruce McConkie, p. 321
Ibid., p. 163
Ibid., p. 319.
Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 7, P.289
Doctrine and Covenants 130:22
McConkie, p. 516
Ibid., pp. 192;589
Ibid., pp.741-742; The Seer, p. 158
Doctrines of Salvation by Joseph Smith, Vol. I p. 135
Articles of Faith, p. 79

Go look it up and amuse yourself. You, a Mormon, doesn't even know those "higher docrines."

Also, the true definition of a Christian (accepted by most Christians) is:

One who believes in one God, that the trinity is existant and is one God, that Jesus Christ is God's one and only son, and that Jesus died on the cross to forgive you of sins.
21-12-2003, 22:03
I would suggest banning Protestants (Presbyterians, Calvinists, etc) from this convention if you are to be consistent.

Protestants have excised books from the Bible, not because they are of dubious veracity or quality, but because they support the...oh, wait...they support sole divinity!

PREBSYTERIANS ARE CULTISTS! BAN THE INFIDELS!

*before Nanakaland cries, waves his degree in theology, and his Certificate of Confirmation*
21-12-2003, 22:13
Hey, the election of Pope is going on two posts above! check it out!
21-12-2003, 22:19
Nianacio
21-12-2003, 22:30
NO MORMONSDo you really want to exlude me?
Neo Earth
21-12-2003, 22:43
Also, the true definition of a Christian (accepted by most Christians) is:

One who believes in one God, that the trinity is existant and is one God, that Jesus Christ is God's one and only son, and that Jesus died on the cross to forgive you of sins.

yeah, my dictionary is really lame (I got an F on a school asingment thanks to it)
Ravenspire
21-12-2003, 22:52
And btw, does a religion of 11.5 million even count as a cult? :P

OOC: Cult, n.: A religion with no political power.
Arizona Nova
21-12-2003, 22:55
Arizona Nova would like to join this organization.

Raysia, haul yourself away! Whether you're a Mormon or not, you're heart is corrupt, judging by your treatment of and reactions to other Christians in the past! This latest attempt at hijacking this thread and disrupting this conference, when it was expressly stated in the first post Mormons are not eligible, only proves my point! Don't make me get Quarka...
Nianacio
21-12-2003, 22:57
OOC: Cult, n.: A religion with no political power.OOC: LDS sure has political power in NationStates.
Tiresia
21-12-2003, 23:10
I don't see why there should be any division among fellow believers in Christ, if they are believers, than why should we have to segregate others over small differences in practices? I don't think that Jesus would want to divide his believers, so why should we?
21-12-2003, 23:48
The Empire of Swabischen would like to send a representative to the conference.

Also, as a Christian nation that has been persecuted by atheist nations in the past (Gladania in particular; dont know what happened in that war but for clarification after burning 10 of the 15 ppl who wouldnt convert we agreed to stop persecuting them and just send them to galdania, and in return asked for an armistice), and i think that we should try to form a world-wide christian alliance, in the hopes of being able to stand up to the normally lone athiest/socialist aggressors with a large alliance of mutually protecting christian nations.

Emperor Kristoffer IV von Swabischen
21-12-2003, 23:59
Do you guys have to keep throwing this out? A simple yes or no would have been fine.Mormons are a cult. Cultists are not Christian. Mormons beleive in polytheism.

Mormonism teaches:
- God used to be a man on another planet and Mormon members may become gods of their own worlds.
- There are many gods.
- The Trinity is three separate Gods.
-[Wrong] Entrance into celestial heaven is by the consent of God and the Mormon prophet Joseph Smith.
-[Wrong] God has a body of flesh and bones.
-[Wrong] God is married and produces spirit babies by having physical relations with his goddess wife.
- Jesus, Satan, and all of us are spirit brothers and sisters procreated in a pre-existent spirit life.
-[Wrong] God had relations with Mary to make Jesus’ body.
-[Wrong] You must shed your own blood for the forgiveness of some sins.
-[Wrong] Good works are necessary for the forgiveness of sins.

-[Wrong] Rarely will they mention these 'higher' doctrines. Therefore, you really don't know what they are teaching until long after you have joined.

Is that clear enough why Mormons are a non-Christian cult? Many of their teachings contradict with the core of Christianity. Don't make me also have to pull up something on the JWs.If you're gonna throw crappy cult watch stuff at us, at least get things right.

And btw, does a religion of 11.5 million even count as a cult? :P

EDIT: And on a side note, we KNOW we aren't considered mainstream Christian, but we are followers of Christ nonetheless. How can you follow a definition of Christianity that Catholicism set forth? There are many other denominations...

Now here's where it gets fun. First of all, I'm not Catholic, I'm Prysbeterian (sp?). Also, all of those points are correct.

Here are my sources:
Mormon Doctrine by Bruce McConkie, p. 321
Ibid., p. 163
Ibid., p. 319.
Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 7, P.289
Doctrine and Covenants 130:22
McConkie, p. 516
Ibid., pp. 192;589
Ibid., pp.741-742; The Seer, p. 158
Doctrines of Salvation by Joseph Smith, Vol. I p. 135
Articles of Faith, p. 79

Go look it up and amuse yourself. You, a Mormon, doesn't even know those "higher docrines."

Also, the true definition of a Christian (accepted by most Christians) is:

One who believes in one God, that the trinity is existant and is one God, that Jesus Christ is God's one and only son, and that Jesus died on the cross to forgive you of sins.Yeah, I know, it is on the same page.

The idiot who wrote that inferred many things, and is wrong on many counts.

But still, I agree, Mormons are not part of Mainstream Christianity, we're too different... and we're proud of that.

Nevertheless, this thread invited all Christians, and by definition, a Christian is one who has faith in Christ, so therefore, we should be allowed to participate.

If you mean "Christian" only by your bigotted definition, then say so.
22-12-2003, 00:00
OOC: Cult, n.: A religion with no political power.OOC: LDS sure has political power in NationStates.Agreed. There are 3 or 4 ~Billion pop nations that are LDS.
Arizona Nova
22-12-2003, 01:13
Milantos-stop being insane. We're shouldn't ban protestants because of differences that are minute and foolish. The only reason protestants and catholics have been divided anywhere is because of foolish pride between the two groups. If this is all that you're confirmation and degrees have taught you, you have learned nothing.

Raysia, before your sorry hide tries to twist my words against me, hear THIS: Joseph Smith added "holy books" to Christian religion, something expressly forbidden in the Book of Revelation in the Bible. Mormonism then has to devalue the Bible in order to fit its own twisted teachings in. Begone.
22-12-2003, 01:25
Oh! That's what I forgot in my definition of a Christian. You mustn't add books to the Bible to twist your own beleifs like Joseph Smith did.
Nianacio
22-12-2003, 02:42
Which translations do you two prefer?
22-12-2003, 02:43
Perhaps a document stating what a "Christian nation" actually is. Somebody's definition of faith in Christ would be quite suitable in my opinion. If you exclude anyone then the nation isn't Christian...it's totalitarian.

I'm not Mormon, Presbyterian, "Frisbeeterian", or anything of that nature...but I'm not a bigot either. I have my personal opinion of Mormons and others too but for the sake of calling something a "Christian nation" I think you have to be pretty broad.

I'm not calling anyone out. There have to be definitive statements and authoritative documentation by people who have an open mind and without a bigoted agenda.

Just my 2 cents. :shock:
22-12-2003, 03:30
Perhaps a document stating what a "Christian nation" actually is. Somebody's definition of faith in Christ would be quite suitable in my opinion. If you exclude anyone then the nation isn't Christian...it's totalitarian.

I'm not Mormon, Presbyterian, "Frisbeeterian", or anything of that nature...but I'm not a bigot either. I have my personal opinion of Mormons and others too but for the sake of calling something a "Christian nation" I think you have to be pretty broad.

I'm not calling anyone out. There have to be definitive statements and authoritative documentation by people who have an open mind and without a bigoted agenda.

Just my 2 cents. :shock:

Nah. Mormons aren't Christians and their religion doesn't save.
Nianacio
22-12-2003, 03:38
Which translations do you two prefer?That was directed at Nanakaland and Arizona Nova, by the way...
22-12-2003, 06:42
Something you all should read:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=106961
Austar Union
22-12-2003, 06:48
I do not believe that Catholic is the same as Christian. Or Anglican...all that religion, the bible says that God hates religion...

I am a Christain, but my demonination I cant remember what it is, but it is normal people who just share a love for God.
22-12-2003, 06:52
the bible says that God hates religion...LOL What?!?! Where!!?
22-12-2003, 07:00
If the somewhat firey chaotic chatter hasn't distracted you all from the purpose of this, the Union of Ilakia and the United Socialist States of the New Soviet Peoples would like to send a representative.
Visgual
22-12-2003, 07:19
YOU are nothing more than Anti-Semetic bitches! Is Hitler in your group too? You are all bigots, and should be shot. You Nazis will never win. Go fuck with the KKK, this website is not a place to spread your evil views. If Jesus was here he would kick your ass. He would be horrified of this, and by the way he's Jewish. If you respond to this, you are really are stupid.
Austar Union
22-12-2003, 07:24
YOU are nothing more than Anti-Semetic bitches! Is Hitler in your group too? You are all bigots, and should be shot. You Nazis will never win. Go f--- with the KKK, this website is not a place to spread your evil views. If Jesus was here he would kick your ass. He would be horrified of this, and by the way he's Jewish. If you respond to this, you are really are stupid.

Excuse me?

Where did i say that I hate christians? Where did I say I was anti-semetic?

My denomination simply says that all you have to do is love god. You dont need to be living in poverty, or you dont have to wear funny hats.

I'm not sure where it says that, I might be wrong, but I dont think so...

I'm Jewish....hell no.
22-12-2003, 07:40
YOU are nothing more than Anti-Semetic bitches! Is Hitler in your group too? You are all bigots, and should be shot. You Nazis will never win. Go f--- with the KKK, this website is not a place to spread your evil views. If Jesus was here he would kick your ass. He would be horrified of this, and by the way he's Jewish. If you respond to this, you are really are stupid.

Excuse me?

Where did i say that I hate christians? Where did I say I was anti-semetic?

My denomination simply says that all you have to do is love god. You dont need to be living in poverty, or you dont have to wear funny hats.

I'm not sure where it says that, I might be wrong, but I dont think so...

I'm Jewish....hell no.If you love him, keep his commandments... that is an important passage there, which most religions tend to overlook ;) I don't get how any religion could believe "Oh, I can do whatever I want, cuz I'm saved! Yay! I can go and be the worst person in the world, but if I say I believe in Christ, then whoopee, I'm saved!"
Austar Union
22-12-2003, 07:51
No no, I think you are mistaking what I said. We love god, and do try to keep his commandmants. But we also understand that us humans are not perfect, and god does forgive us for our sins if you truly are sorry when you commit them. Everyone is a sinner, even christians. We all sin, but the question is do we try not to sin? We try not to.
Austar Union
22-12-2003, 07:54
I remember now, i am Prodestant - AOG
22-12-2003, 07:57
No no, I think you are mistaking what I said. We love god, and do try to keep his commandmants. But we also understand that us humans are not perfect, and god does forgive us for our sins if you truly are sorry when you commit them. Everyone is a sinner, even christians. We all sin, but the question is do we try not to sin? We try not to.That sounds somewhat on the right track :)

Personally, I think it just makes more sense when you think of them as seperate beings :) God is Just, Christ is Merciful. God demanded that no unclean thing enter his presence. Since this is not possible for us humans, because we all sin, Christ came to this Earth and lived a sinless life, so that he could take upon him the sins of the world so that we all may return to God's presence. Repentance is the process of recognizing you have sinned, feeling guilty about it, then feeling truly sorry, then asking for forgiveness, then confessing, then forsaking the sin... never happened, and you'll try your hardest to make sure it never happens again.
Lareg
22-12-2003, 07:57
We too would like to attend to promote the interests of the Faith and present the issue of selecting an official representative.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=106904&highlight=
22-12-2003, 07:58
I remember now, i am Prodestant - AOGAnyone who believes in christ and is not Catholic is considered Protestant :P
22-12-2003, 08:00
We too would like to attend to promote the interests of the Faith and present the issue of selecting an official representative.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=106904&highlight=Oh, that is for Catholics I guess.

I have a question, why is your leader not called by Prophecy or divine revelation, as all in the bible were?
Lareg
22-12-2003, 08:03
Well in RL the Pope's selection is supposed to be divinely inspired, the Holy Spirit works through the cardinals. I suppose in NS it will have to be popular vote and the quality of the candidate that counts :-)
Austar Union
22-12-2003, 08:33
No no, I think you are mistaking what I said. We love god, and do try to keep his commandmants. But we also understand that us humans are not perfect, and god does forgive us for our sins if you truly are sorry when you commit them. Everyone is a sinner, even christians. We all sin, but the question is do we try not to sin? We try not to.That sounds somewhat on the right track :)

Personally, I think it just makes more sense when you think of them as seperate beings :) God is Just, Christ is Merciful. God demanded that no unclean thing enter his presence. Since this is not possible for us humans, because we all sin, Christ came to this Earth and lived a sinless life, so that he could take upon him the sins of the world so that we all may return to God's presence. Repentance is the process of recognizing you have sinned, feeling guilty about it, then feeling truly sorry, then asking for forgiveness, then confessing, then forsaking the sin... never happened, and you'll try your hardest to make sure it never happens again.

Yes yes... thats it. ANd god throws your sin into the "sea of forgetfullness" where he no longer remembers that you sinned.
22-12-2003, 08:34
No no, I think you are mistaking what I said. We love god, and do try to keep his commandmants. But we also understand that us humans are not perfect, and god does forgive us for our sins if you truly are sorry when you commit them. Everyone is a sinner, even christians. We all sin, but the question is do we try not to sin? We try not to.That sounds somewhat on the right track :)

Personally, I think it just makes more sense when you think of them as seperate beings :) God is Just, Christ is Merciful. God demanded that no unclean thing enter his presence. Since this is not possible for us humans, because we all sin, Christ came to this Earth and lived a sinless life, so that he could take upon him the sins of the world so that we all may return to God's presence. Repentance is the process of recognizing you have sinned, feeling guilty about it, then feeling truly sorry, then asking for forgiveness, then confessing, then forsaking the sin... never happened, and you'll try your hardest to make sure it never happens again.

Yes yes... thats it. ANd god throws your sin into the "sea of forgetfullness" where he no longer remembers that you sinned.Basically ;)

An easy to understand analogy is this:

At the time of our Judgement, our life will be reviewed on film... every second of it, every sin, from every camera angle.

Repentance is like the editing machine ;)
Austar Union
22-12-2003, 08:43
Yeah, in short. I dont know all that much about the theology and stuff. Theology hurts my brain....

So Continuing the IC's:

I will be sending Pastor Keehan to the conference. He is the head of the nationwide AOG Network.
22-12-2003, 08:47
If we are allowed, we will send Government President Nathaniel M. Hatch, who is a prominent member and holder of high authority in the Church as well.

If he is unwelcome, or somehow uninvited, then at least consider him as a representative for the 29% of Raysia that is not LDS :)

http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/nmh2.jpg
22-12-2003, 18:25
If we are allowed, we will send Government President Nathaniel M. Hatch, who is a prominent member and holder of high authority in the Church as well.

If he is unwelcome, or somehow uninvited, then at least consider him as a representative for the 29% of Raysia that is not LDS :)

http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/nmh2.jpg

Fine. Send your representative. It would start some very interesting debates.
22-12-2003, 20:49
If we are allowed, we will send Government President Nathaniel M. Hatch, who is a prominent member and holder of high authority in the Church as well.

If he is unwelcome, or somehow uninvited, then at least consider him as a representative for the 29% of Raysia that is not LDS :)

Fine. Send your representative. It would start some very interesting debates.Debates? Yeah, ok, as long as their intelligent, and not off some antimormon website or cultwatch bullcrap... there's enough of that here as it is... I expect to see the kind of debates big leaders and important figures would have, not childish ignorance.
23-12-2003, 00:24
If we are allowed, we will send Government President Nathaniel M. Hatch, who is a prominent member and holder of high authority in the Church as well.

If he is unwelcome, or somehow uninvited, then at least consider him as a representative for the 29% of Raysia that is not LDS :)

Fine. Send your representative. It would start some very interesting debates.Debates? Yeah, ok, as long as their intelligent, and not off some antimormon website or cultwatch bullcrap... there's enough of that here as it is... I expect to see the kind of debates big leaders and important figures would have, not childish ignorance.

Okay. Okay. If I debate with you, I'd do it a bit nicer, and not label Mormonism a cult.
23-12-2003, 01:05
If we are allowed, we will send Government President Nathaniel M. Hatch, who is a prominent member and holder of high authority in the Church as well.

If he is unwelcome, or somehow uninvited, then at least consider him as a representative for the 29% of Raysia that is not LDS :)

Fine. Send your representative. It would start some very interesting debates.Debates? Yeah, ok, as long as their intelligent, and not off some antimormon website or cultwatch bullcrap... there's enough of that here as it is... I expect to see the kind of debates big leaders and important figures would have, not childish ignorance.

Okay. Okay. If I debate with you, I'd do it a bit nicer, and not label Mormonism a cult.Whatever, just make sure that if you're going to call it a debate, you don't throw out lies and myths et cetera... let's stick to the issues.
23-12-2003, 18:26
If we are allowed, we will send Government President Nathaniel M. Hatch, who is a prominent member and holder of high authority in the Church as well.

If he is unwelcome, or somehow uninvited, then at least consider him as a representative for the 29% of Raysia that is not LDS :)

Fine. Send your representative. It would start some very interesting debates.Debates? Yeah, ok, as long as their intelligent, and not off some antimormon website or cultwatch bullcrap... there's enough of that here as it is... I expect to see the kind of debates big leaders and important figures would have, not childish ignorance.

Okay. Okay. If I debate with you, I'd do it a bit nicer, and not label Mormonism a cult.Whatever, just make sure that if you're going to call it a debate, you don't throw out lies and myths et cetera... let's stick to the issues.Okay.
Tanah Burung
30-12-2003, 20:50
Post-Christmas bump.
31-12-2003, 11:03
We are a newly formed commonwealth with little clue about the ins and outs of forum, conferences etc. Our commonwealth is not exclusively christian but has a christian influence. I will join as rep for our commonwealth and if this seems useful I am sure more of our nations may join as well.
Reagani
31-12-2003, 11:23
As a Catholic nation, i will be honored to attend your conference.
31-12-2003, 12:04
My nation is also mostly catholic and as such my kingdom would like to attend your conference. My minister of religion, Lord Annunakki will be my representitive.

Warmest regards,
King J.J. of Lumuria
Region of Carmarthenshire
26-01-2004, 18:53
I think I should bump into this thread.