Alliance of Secular Governments
Recently various Catholic states have joined together in a seemingly hostile alliance known as the "Defenders of the Faith". If they succeed in allying, the world could be in danger of being conquered by a pan-governmental religous/economic/military hegemony.
I, (anonymous representative) of Nar-Knife therefore propose an alliance of secular nations to keep the balance. This alliance is not, however, intended as an alliance of states geared towards conquering the world - it is only intended as a countering action toward the grim possibility of a WorldChurch. We will ensure choice for the citizens of Nar-Knife. Free choice.
(There will be a link to the "DotF" announcement in a following post.)
Teritora
10-12-2003, 05:39
OOC:I love Alarmists.
However - we take it with a grain of salt.
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=101677&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
OOC: That's right... all of you get in one place... :P
OOC:As you have done? :)
We're all much bigger...
Jeruselem
10-12-2003, 05:56
We got alliances for commies, imperialists, dictators, socialists, capitalists ... none for Catholics until now.
The Confederacy of Patoxia does not see the Defenders of the Faith as a threat any more than the any other alliance is. We have not seen them or any of their members of their group do anything hostile, in fact their charter seems to imply that they respect international law.
They are just a minority group organizing to better use their political and national resources and provide for a common defense. Let me say this again, they are a minority group, there is absolutely no danger of them conquering the world or taking over the UN or anything like that, leave them in peace.
~A Patoxian Diplomat.
Of course they only belong to the largest most powerful church on the world and with a peaceful pope but one that is powerful enough that the USSR and the whole of the warsaw pact couldn't oppose him. Well they are an Minority that most catholics aren't miltiant any more unless its to defend their faith from attackers...
~Emperor Zerni
A minor issue - Roania claims the "DotF" to be rather large, Patoxia. Also, Jeruselem, "AoSG" is not one of the "alliances for commies, imperialists, dictators, socialists, capitalists" - it is simply an alliance who believes government should be secular. "AoSG" does not hold with armed enforcement of this position. To address Zerni's statement that the Catholic church is currently a peaceful one, recall that "DotF" is not the Catholic church, both states that hold it as their religon - recall, also, that "DotF" is composed at least partially of "crusading" states.
Teritora
10-12-2003, 06:21
Well Jeruselem is the last of the Crusader states formed during the crusades and managed to survive the turks and everything else. All the Crusades we have waged have been defensive in nature and took place inside Teritora like the famed the Cross and the Star Crusade agaist a king that upurped the throne around 1252 AD and was tring to purscute and kill all the christians and jews of Teritora never mind they made up most of the population.
Eh. I've never participated in a crusade...
<looks around, goes back to plotting>
Your defense of the persecuted religions, while admirable, is just what "AoSG" was formed to prevent the need for in the future. Persecution of minority sects, other religions, and the non-religous are not tolerable. While "AoSG" does not seek, nor even contemplate, intervention in the internal politics of other nations, it seek to prevent other from doing so as well.
as a Islamic Nation, we do consider DOTF to be a potential threat.
Free Outer Eugenia
10-12-2003, 06:37
Relax, they'll have their hands full with the proteseants :lol:
Do you view them as a threat to your continued existence as an Islamic state - or as a threat simply because they are there? The inquiring mind of Nar-Knife (and there are many) would like to know.
If they do indeeddecide to "cull", first will be the various splinter sects of catholicism, and the the protestant, and then the muslim, and then the jews, and then the eastern religions, and then more minor religons, and then all other who oppose them. This is a possibility - not one that "AoSG" believes in wholeheartedly, but one which must be fought against if it begins to come to fruition. That said, it seems an unlikely thing - morelike it will be propaganda based - at least tobegin with.
if they stay out of my nation, fine, if they attack, i won't know what to do about it, as i have hardly any military (see "Sultanete of Esryia: Wonder of South Asia" for details.
Jeruselem
10-12-2003, 07:07
Is this on the assumption secular governments provided more freedom than Catholic ones? Secular governments aren't all exactly models of free government either.
Does not appreciate non-secular governments - we believe your position is valid in this case.
(note this is in response to Esryia's previous message: if they stay out of my nation, fine, if they attack, i won't know what to do about it, as i have hardly any military (see "Sultanete of Esryia: Wonder of South Asia" for details. )
Further more - yes - it is Nar-Knife's position that secular government's - at least model ones - have far greater freedom than that of non-secular ones. Freedoms of religon, press, speech, and democracy, to name a few.
Glorious Humanity
10-12-2003, 07:17
The Federation of Glorious Humanity has no quarrel with any of the DotF nations, and sees no reason to start one by joining an alliance opposing them. This alliance seems rather unneeded, since DotF has not given any indication that they intend to start converting by the sword.
If it truly worries you so much, might I suggest a different method of dealing with them: diplomacy. Open diplomatic channels, send ambassadors, establish friendly relations with the DotF, and learn more about them. It's entirely possible that you could find friends that you wouldn't have if you attack the organization, or at the very least learn what they really intend to do, instead of assuming they're militant.
Mark Albert
President
Federation of Glorious Humanity
Does not appreciate non-secular governments - we believe your position is valid in this case.
(note this is in response to Esryia's previous message: if they stay out of my nation, fine, if they attack, i won't know what to do about it, as i have hardly any military (see "Sultanete of Esryia: Wonder of South Asia" for details. )
sorry if i seem stupid, but what exactly do you meen?
The Federation of Glorious Humanity has no quarrel with any of the DotF nations, and sees no reason to start one by joining an alliance opposing them. This alliance seems rather unneeded, since DotF has not given any indication that they intend to start converting by the sword.
If it truly worries you so much, might I suggest a different method of dealing with them: diplomacy. Open diplomatic channels, send ambassadors, establish friendly relations with the DotF, and learn more about them. It's entirely possible that you could find friends that you wouldn't have if you attack the organization, or at the very least learn what they really intend to do, instead of assuming they're militant.
Mark Albert
President
Federation of Glorious Humanity
OOC: He's already irked my ICly, and he's starting to irk me OOCly. It's a bit late.
Lagrange 4
10-12-2003, 07:26
The use of rhetoric typical of DotF belies a threat to civil liberties. I see it as a threatening development, but will suspend judgement until I can see the results for myself. My agency will be following the situation closely.
--Valentin Akagi, L4 independent journalist and civil rights activist
Glorious Humanity
10-12-2003, 07:26
OOC: He's already irked my ICly, and he's starting to irk me OOCly. It's a bit late.
OOC: I guessed as much. Just thought making a stab in peace's direction was the right thing to do before Nar-Knife gets buried. We ARE supposed to be advocates of peace after all. :lol:
Albert: Please, sir, do you research. (member nations have acted agressively before)
Esryia: We support your resistance to being overtaken by another state/alliance of states (though not militarily - as the "AoSG" is currently a one nation team).
Nar-Knife, as a developing nation has little to fear from the Goliath-like advances of Roania. "AoSG" officially states it's opposition to the forming of yet another Imperialist alliance: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=101937
It has come to attention, that in response to an inquiry by Nar-Knife that the "DotF" is not a very consistant set of nations, as is observed by this: What exactly are you intentions for "DotF". Nar-Knife has already stated its position on what those intentions seem to be. Various members of "DotF" have responded Nar-Knife's position - please state it - all members - what each member-state's goals for "DotF" are. If you do not know of Nar-Knife's position please read : http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=102389&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
The primary purpose of this alliance is mutual support for diplomatic, military, and commercial interests of Catholic nations.
In the event a member state's Catholic government is under attack, it can invoke the support of the DotF. as opposed to this: Roania's goals: Short term, give Dar-Knife 10 more minutes, than take him over.
Long term, and in this alliance... maybe to make some new allies, etc.
I wish to crush some Muslim states - in the interest of global security and human rights.
This act of intolerance is an outrage. What these savages are doing is bringing the whole region back to the Dark Ages. Don't they realise that by threatening people because of their opinions they are marginalising some of their brightest citizens? Such policies are innately self-destructive and must be abolished.
We have listed non-religious citizens in the area entitled to political asylum until DotF come to their senses.
--Ragnar Orn-Grimnirsson, Immigration Services, Boreal City
Teritora
10-12-2003, 14:15
Some of the brightist sciencists and people have been reglious often deeply relgious but what are you ranting about?
~Prince Leran Tor Asha
Our experience has shown that more educated citizens are more likely to be atheists. Moreover, over 95% of the prison population is religious. His majesty the Prince must be referring to historical anecdotes.
--Ragnar Orn-Grimnirsson, Immigration Services, Boreal City
Teritora
10-12-2003, 14:35
You would be mistaken, nearly all the sciencists in Teritora are deeply relgious, one of the great astrophysicists of Teritora is a monk for example.
~Prince Leran Tor Asha
Lagrange 4
10-12-2003, 14:38
Would these great thinkers not benefit from debates with their atheist colleagues, Earthling? We have found a diverse environment to be stimulating for the academic community. Surely persecuting atheists would bleed any university dry of a considerable amount of talent.
--Valentin Akagi, L4 independent journalist and civil rights activist
As a maybe-Communist dictator, I refuse to have any contact with the fascist imperialists of DotF, and I recommend that all Communist, Socialist, Bolshevik, Menshevik, Eurocommunist, Marxist, Leninist, Stalinist, Trotskyist, Maoist, Titoist or Castrist nations join to combat the spread of Fascism, superstition, and capitalism. Let us create a World Communist Pact. You know were to find me.
Is not just over the pssible persecution of aetheists and agnostics, but those not conforming to the "DoTF" religous status quo in general: Muslims, Protestants, etc. "DotF" members are often volatile and illogical. Consequently, many are a threat to others.
Jeruselem
10-12-2003, 16:21
Is not just over the pssible persecution of aetheists and agnostics, but those not conforming to the "DoTF" religous status quo in general: Muslims, Protestants, etc. "DotF" members are often volatile and illogical. Consequently, many are a threat to others.
While DotF members have Catholics governments, each still runs its own foreign policies.
For example, Roania is an Elf-friendly nation and has Sirilism as it's second religion while other nations persecute Elves. Jeruselem runs a tri-religion state - Christianity, Judism and Islam. Every member state is different.
Free Outer Eugenia
10-12-2003, 16:36
Is this on the assumption secular governments provided more freedom than Catholic ones? Secular governments aren't all exactly models of free government either.If Roania and Jeruselem are fair models of catholic governments, then this assumption would for the most part be valid.
Jeruselem
10-12-2003, 16:42
OOC
Nar-Knife is supposed to be signing up members to his alliance. No one's volunteered?
Your, nation, Jeruselem, is the most level-headed "DotF" nation. Roania's fetish for elves does not a free nation make. Its persuction of others outweighs stated penchant. If it were truly free it would view all with as much 'respect' as it has for the elves.
OC: Nope, but I'm not too surprised. This is kind of fun anyway. I sort of suspect that many players don't know what the word secular means.
OC:sorry - i'm getting some sleep - cat naps and all. be back later (like a few hours)
OC:I'm back, and...
IC:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=102702
Yet another alliance of non-secular nations seems to be forming.
Free Burkina Faso is interested in joining this alliance of secular states. While many of our people our deeply religious Muslims, Christians, or followers of traditional African faiths, it is our belief that government is a secular institution with a secular purpose.
We also urge the nations of the world not believe Roania's lies. Roania is an imperialist state which conquers free peoples at will and grinds its non-Catholic population under its heel, and routinely uses chemical weapons on civilian non-combatants. If their actions are to be deterred, the free nations of the world must unite together to impose these sham-Catholic imperialists.
Thank you for joining "AoSG", Free Burkina Faso.
Current members of "AoSG":
Nar-Knife
Free Bukina Faso
Hello I love alliances if you need help Tg me because I no a things about alliances.
Your offer of aid is much appreiciated - if help is required Nar-Knife will inquire.
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=102713
invading nar-knife would be a terrible position because a lot of alliances will become involoved due to the invasion of an innocent country.
Nor would invading Nar-Knife's small corner of existence be feasible. That however is not the topic at hand.
Teritora
10-12-2003, 22:00
Free Burkina Faso is interested in joining this alliance of secular states. While many of our people our deeply religious Muslims, Christians, or followers of traditional African faiths, it is our belief that government is a secular institution with a secular purpose.
We also urge the nations of the world not believe Roania's lies. Roania is an imperialist state which conquers free peoples at will and grinds its non-Catholic population under its heel, and routinely uses chemical weapons on civilian non-combatants. If their actions are to be deterred, the free nations of the world must unite together to impose these sham-Catholic imperialists.
What ever you feel about Roania do not insult the rest of the nations that are members of the Defenders of the Faith. Teritora is not and never has been Imperalist and you would do well not to insult the our devoteness to the catholic faith.
~Prince Leran Tor Asha
It seems not to be an issue of opinion considering Roania - more accurately, it is a matter of fact. Roania is publicly aggressive and offensive. While not all nations that are members of "DoTF" hold similar stances, it is those that do that "AoSG" is concerned about.
Oakeshottland
11-12-2003, 01:34
To the leadership of Nar-Knife:
We have responded to your request, asking what our nations hope to get out of membership in the DotF. We re-print it here.
The RCO intends its participation with the Defenders of the Faith to do the following.
1.) Increase relations, in terms of trade, technology, diplomacy, and the like, with fellow Catholic states.
2.) Increase the level of integration of international policy among Catholic states, allowing them to be an influential bloc on issues of concern.
3.) Mutual protection and defence of the Faithful.
4.) Protection of religious brethern in other lands.
This fourth element is the RCO's alone, and does not stipulate it as part of DotF policy. In our infancy, we tried to block a genocide of religious citizens (all religions) within the Imperial Continent Vector. We failed, and risked destruction. We hope that a united front of the faithful could discourage nations and regions from doing such genocides in the future. We have no intention of becoming genocidal, or of supporting forced conversion. We hope for peace, but are also willing to fight for the tranquility of order.
We have noticed that many secular, and especially dedicated atheist, states show high levels of violence both against their own religious citizens as well as religious nations. We are therefore disturbed and disappointed by your inferences regarding the danger of the DotF. It would seem there are other, and potentially more dangerous, countries in the world, and they do not march under a Catholic banner.
With Respect,
Minister of Foreign Affairs Voegelin, Royal Commonwealth of Oakeshottland.
i would like to goin the AOSG.
I would also like funding for a new Fighter-Bomber that will be sold to members of the alliance. devolopment costs are estimated at 95 Million
US Dollars (190 Million Esryian Talia).
We would comment on this assertion, but since we're hosting a conference between SeOCC and Iesus Christi we feel it would be more prudent to hold our tongues. Ordinarily we would point to Iesus and the other states of the Reich as prime examples of religious human rights violaters, but the IC governent's willingness to engage in diplomatic talks with its ideological opposite seems to indicate a positive shift in policy that should be commended rather than condemned.
Minister Voegelin,
Nar-Knife would like to thank you for your highly appropriate response, in addition to being one of the few who was kind enough to post you response here. However we would like to point out that "AoSG" opposses genocide. In fact, preventing genocide is one of "AoSG"'s goals - whether it is genocide against the religious, or genocide against the non-religious. Nar-Knife would also like to point out that it is not an atheist state: we merely believe that the citizen should be allowed to choose religion or not for themselves - not the government. Furthermore we are disappointed that you - a religion that historically touted defense against genocide - have not examined some of your allies in the "DotF" more closely - causing you to state that you are 'disturbed and disappointed' that we have made 'inferences' as to the danger of "DotF" - we have simply examined the previous to current behaviour of the average member state - and determined that many hold violence dear - while you may or may not be one such nation - it is such nations - the "AoSG" is worried about - we do not slander peaceful member-states - however our concerns may be interpreted. In regards to violent non-religously governed nations - "AoSG" does not speak for them - however we do not condone persecution of any religous or non-religous group - whomever is doing the perscuting. However, if it is observed that an "AoSG" member-state is participating in such persecution, Nar-Knife would appreciate being informed of it - evidence is, however required.
Thank You,
The Citizens of Nar-Knife, on behalf of the "AoSG"
i would like to goin the AOSG.
I would also like funding for a new Fighter-Bomber that will be sold to members of the alliance. devolopment costs are estimated at 95 Million
US Dollars (190 Million Esryian Talia).
Currently "AoSG" does not have any funding set up. We would also like to inquire what your intentions with such fighter bomber are.
The Republic of Tiburon would like to join the AoSG, and is allowing all of its space technology to be available to AoSG, under Tiburonese supervision. However, we will note that as a fundamentally centrist country, we will not accept any motions for radical actions.
~Nova Starfighter
President of the Republic of Tiburon
Pilot of the Gundam 01
i would like to goin the AOSG.
I would also like funding for a new Fighter-Bomber that will be sold to members of the alliance. devolopment costs are estimated at 95 Million
US Dollars (190 Million Esryian Talia).
Currently "AoSG" does not have any funding set up. We would also like to inquire what your intentions with such fighter bomber are.
Defence.
The Republic of Tiburon would like to join the AoSG, and is allowing all of its space technology to be available to AoSG, under Tiburonese supervision. However, we will note that as a fundamentally centrist country, we will not accept any motions for radical actions.
~Nova Starfighter
President of the Republic of Tiburon
Pilot of the Gundam 01
As your offer holds no requirements that we use such technologies offensively, we accept it. On further review it is probable that you will be admitted to the "AoSG". Please submit a short statement about your country with historical examples (OC: with links) which support that statement.
i would like to goin the AOSG.
I would also like funding for a new Fighter-Bomber that will be sold to members of the alliance. devolopment costs are estimated at 95 Million
US Dollars (190 Million Esryian Talia).
Currently "AoSG" does not have any funding set up. We would also like to inquire what your intentions with such fighter bomber are.
Defence.
We would allow you to join, but for for the requirement that "AoSG" member-states be secular in government (in the USA, this is reffered to as separation of church and state) - at current time, this does not appear to be the case. We will however support you with funding for defensive research, on the basis that it will be used for defense only. Pre-emptive strikes are not allowed - nor defense against attacks that were clearly provoked. While the "AoSG" cannot take fund back, we can withdraw any "AoSG" forces that are being used to defend member countries.
In a note to member-state Free Burkina Faso, we would like a similar example as is being required of Tiburon. This is to ensure fairness in the process.
Thank you,
The Citizens of Nar-Knife, on behalf of the "AoSG"
OOC: I don't really have one, unfortunatly. I'm relativly new, so I don't have a history in regards to secularism or non-secularism in game. My country's leader, however, is Thomas Sankara who existed in real life until he was shot dead in a 1987 coup. And though Sankara was himself a Catholic, historically he loathed government imposition of religion and ran a completely secular administration. I play his character and leadership as such.
OC: I suspect that "DotF" has established an off-site forum for themselves - the link to which was likely distributed in a telegram.
OOC: I don't really have one, unfortunatly. I'm relativly new, so I don't have a history in regards to secularism or non-secularism in game. My country's leader, however, is Thomas Sankara who existed in real life until he was shot dead in a 1987 coup. And though Sankara was himself a Catholic, historically he loathed government imposition of religion and ran a completely secular administration. I play his character and leadership as such.
OC: Cool, cool. I'll go with that - but can you provide some links to previous forum topic in which you participated?
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97447&highlight=
There's one I started. Search for posts I've authored to get the ones about my hosting an Iesus Christi-SeOCC diplomatic summit (which the two nations approached me to host but have yet to post on the thread) and my covert involvement against neo-Fasicsts in the AC (African Commonwealth)
i would like to goin the AOSG.
I would also like funding for a new Fighter-Bomber that will be sold to members of the alliance. devolopment costs are estimated at 95 Million
US Dollars (190 Million Esryian Talia).
Currently "AoSG" does not have any funding set up. We would also like to inquire what your intentions with such fighter bomber are.
Defence.
We would allow you to join, but for for the requirement that "AoSG" member-states be secular in government (in the USA, this is reffered to as separation of church and state) - at current time, this does not appear to be the case. We will however support you with funding for defensive research, on the basis that it will be used for defense only. Pre-emptive strikes are not allowed - nor defense against attacks that were clearly provoked. While the "AoSG" cannot take fund back, we can withdraw any "AoSG" forces that are being used to defend member countries.
In a note to member-state Free Burkina Faso, we would like a similar example as is being required of Tiburon. This is to ensure fairness in the process.
Thank you,
The Citizens of Nar-Knife, on behalf of the "AoSG"[/quote]
thanks, but no thanks. we may use the fighter offensifly (SP?).
i would like to goin the AOSG.
I would also like funding for a new Fighter-Bomber that will be sold to members of the alliance. devolopment costs are estimated at 95 Million
US Dollars (190 Million Esryian Talia).
Currently "AoSG" does not have any funding set up. We would also like to inquire what your intentions with such fighter bomber are.
Defence.
We would allow you to join, but for for the requirement that "AoSG" member-states be secular in government (in the USA, this is reffered to as separation of church and state) - at current time, this does not appear to be the case. We will however support you with funding for defensive research, on the basis that it will be used for defense only. Pre-emptive strikes are not allowed - nor defense against attacks that were clearly provoked. While the "AoSG" cannot take fund back, we can withdraw any "AoSG" forces that are being used to defend member countries.
In a note to member-state Free Burkina Faso, we would like a similar example as is being required of Tiburon. This is to ensure fairness in the process.
Thank you,
The Citizens of Nar-Knife, on behalf of the "AoSG"[/quote]
thanks, but no thanks. we may use the fighter offensifly (SP?).
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97447&highlight=
There's one I started. Search for posts I've authored to get the ones about my hosting an Iesus Christi-SeOCC diplomatic summit (which the two nations approached me to host but have yet to post on the thread) and my covert involvement against neo-Fasicsts in the AC (African Commonwealth)
i would like to goin the AOSG.
I would also like funding for a new Fighter-Bomber that will be sold to members of the alliance. devolopment costs are estimated at 95 Million
US Dollars (190 Million Esryian Talia).
Currently "AoSG" does not have any funding set up. We would also like to inquire what your intentions with such fighter bomber are.
Defence.
We would allow you to join, but for for the requirement that "AoSG" member-states be secular in government (in the USA, this is reffered to as separation of church and state) - at current time, this does not appear to be the case. We will however support you with funding for defensive research, on the basis that it will be used for defense only. Pre-emptive strikes are not allowed - nor defense against attacks that were clearly provoked. While the "AoSG" cannot take fund back, we can withdraw any "AoSG" forces that are being used to defend member countries.
In a note to member-state Free Burkina Faso, we would like a similar example as is being required of Tiburon. This is to ensure fairness in the process.
Thank you,
The Citizens of Nar-Knife, on behalf of the "AoSG"
thanks, but no thanks. we may use the fighter offensifly (SP?).
In that case you will not be provided with funding for weaponry.
Thank you, your place is assured.
OOC: He's already irked my ICly, and he's starting to irk me OOCly. It's a bit late.
OOC: I guessed as much. Just thought making a stab in peace's direction was the right thing to do before Nar-Knife gets buried. We ARE supposed to be advocates of peace after all. :lol:
OOC: I'll give him a few more days to lay off, then I show him what I'm capable of when I'm *really* angry.
OC: Words. If you 'attack' Nar-Knife, I'm simply going to ignore it - let that be stated for the record.
OOC: And if you attack Free Burkina Faso, expect an expensive, neverending bush war =P
OC: The oppressed (by invading nations) citizens of Free Burkina Faso will never run out, eh - even if FBF has to resort to terrorist tactics and clones.
OOC: Terrorism against Roanian troops isn't terrorism, it's guerilla warfare by definition.
And clones? Ever seen the real Burkina Faso? o.o Our army barely has any serious combat aircraft, and our space program consists primarily of a tin bucket and one man's dream. Cloning is a loooong way off.
OC:Tru dat - Roania is more-like the terrorist nation. Maybe just spend all your budget on cloning tech.
OC: The thread "DotF" isn't defunct - my mistake - though this could be a decoy. It's always possible :D
Okay, full summary of changes to make, please.
UPDATE
Crusading
??? of Chaloner
Cardinal Gregory Aston of The Captain
Cardinal Secles of New Gondor
Emperor Kienny of The Holy Latin Empire
Emperor Tamazoid of Isochronous
Emperor Vito Lombardi of Belem
Emperor Cuchulain I of Kromdoria
Filavandel aep Hiand-Hral of Athel Nora
General Marcus Johnson of Holy Mercenaries (probationary for the moment)
High Emperor Mathias of Mathias Prime
King Xenophon of the Schismatic States
Lady Taylor of Garrison II
Prince Alexander of Roania
Queen Seria of Tordor
Queen Victoria of the RCO
Whoever is in charge of Territora
Non-Crusading
Emperor Andreus I of Pantocratria
New members in Bold.
Please notice the differentiation in the member-states: Crusading and Non-Crusading. Also notice the proportion in each. Peaceful intentions?
A news update fromthe citizens of Nar-Knife