NationStates Jolt Archive

OOC: This is the list I have so far. DO NOT CLAIM ON THIS THREAD UNLESS YOU HAVE PROOF. Don't say 'I want Ford!'. You have to have a thread that says you aquire the company and have it accepted by other nations. Please provide a complete listing of the main company and it's subsidiary companies, if any. The list will be updated periodicly.

Foe Hammer:
Dodge

Steel Butterfly:
Mercedes-Benz

Crimmond:
BMW Eurasia
Porsche
Rolls Royce
Bentley
Volkswagen

Bajon:
Mazda
Ferrari

Roania:
Ford

Celeborne:
Harley-Davidson
Triumph,
Motorcycle wings of the folllowing companies:
Honda
Yamaha
Suzuki

Jerusalem:
AM General Jerusalem

Isochronous:
Holden
DaimlerChrysler
Rover
Land Rover
Saab
Volvo

GMC Military Arms
Daewoo

Western Asia:
Automotive Industries, Ltd. (AIL)
Israel Military Industries, Ltd. (IMI, now known as Greater Israel Military Industries, Ltd. or GIMI. Formerly known as TAAS)
Soltam Systems, Ltd.
The Elisra Group
Tadiran Communications, Ltd.
SkyCat International, Ltd.
RAFAEL, Inc. (Armament Development Authority Ltd.)
Israel Shipyards (now known as GINY, LLC. (Greater Israel Naval Yards))

Presgreif:
Mitsubishi

AM General Jerusalem ... we only make Hummers and Humvees.

Got a thread to prove it?

Grr...why does it have to be only car companies?

Virgin Atlantic acquired two airlines recently:

Air New Zealand
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=101691&highlight=

EVA Airways (in Taiwan, just a way to link up my two accounts)

Celeborne buys up motorcycle companies (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=101692&highlight=)

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=101710

It was on sale. We own Ford.

OOC: Virgin Atlantic: Because I have a vested intrest in knowing who owns what car companies as I don't want to claim what someone else already owns and I don't want people to claim my companies.

Reviewing threads and updating once before I go to bed.

OOC: Celeborne: I will update it with your companies when you get other nations to accept your ownership.

Roania: Do you JUST own Ford? Do you own Mercury and Lincoln as well? Please, be specific.

OOC: Celeborne: I will update it with your companies when you get other nations to accept your ownership.

Roania: Do you JUST own Ford? Do you own Mercury and Lincoln as well? Please, be specific.

Just Ford. I'm not touching Lincoln.

OOC: Celeborne: I will update it with your companies when you get other nations to accept your ownership.

Roania: Do you JUST own Ford? Do you own Mercury and Lincoln as well? Please, be specific.

Would this do ? (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33878&highlight=)

Guinness Extra Cold
Gremlin

Id like to challenge owner ship of the following companies:

Mazda

Also, I'd like to claim

Toyota (Including Lexus)
Nissan (Including Infiniti)
Honda (Including Acura)
Mitsubushi
Suzuki
Kawasaki
Yamaha
Subaru

All of this is based on the idea that I'm RPing as an Emperor who took over Japan in at the end of World War II.

All American domestic car companies are owned by civillans in Johnified America, this idea that some other nations own these companies is propstorus (SPELLING?) All american compaines exculding those owned by Damlier Chrysler are still maintained by thier respective corparations and we do not reconize any so called claims by foriengers.

Sorry for being still a little new, how do you aquire an car company, do you just on a thread and RP it?

OOC: Johnified America: Objection noted and promptly disregarded.

Kajiraki: With Mazda, you must work that out with Bajon. Until then, it will be listed as a Bajoni company. Also, I am accepting Celeborne's control over some of your companies Motorcycle divisions, as he has RPed it long before you existed.

Celeborne: Your claims are all accpted except for BMW, as I have owned that company since mid-April, where your proof is from May. It will be up to the winners of the auction I have going to decide if they want to sell some control to you.

Guinness Extra Cold: Provide proof that you own Gremlin.... also explain why you'd want such a company.

Aztec National League: Create a thread announcing the buyout of a car company. If it is accepted I add it to the list. If it is contested with proof that beats yours, it is denied.

Kajiraki: With Mazda, you must work that out with Bajon. Until then, it will be listed as a Bajoni company. Also, I am accepting Celeborne's control over some of your companies Motorcycle divisions, as he has RPed it long before you existed.

OK...(quick look)...eh, he (Celeborne) can have them, I really dont need them, and I own an RX-8 and Mazda 6 IRL, so I can live with someone else owning Mazda in NS.

Heinrid Abadas laughed. "Why anyone would want such tiny and insignificant little companies, I don't know."

"They were pretty big, long ago," retorted CEO Bill Gates.

"Yes, but so were you," he reflected, "Times change. And shouldn't you be doing my laundry?"

"Yes, SIR!"

OK...(quick look)...eh, he (Celeborne) can have them, I really dont need them, and I own an RX-8 and Mazda 6 IRL, so I can live with someone else owning Mazda in NS.Hmm... you give up ownership of just the motorcycle divisions or of the entire companies?

Santa Barbara: Tiny? Insignficant? These are still global companies man. I admit I have sliced BMW up into divisions, but that's so I can concentrate on Europe and Asia with my sales(not that I'll EVER do a storefront. Never liked thoses things. Feels like cheap RP).

Just motorcycle divisions.

As long as I have my Benzs 8)

OK...(quick look)...eh, he (Celeborne) can have them, I really dont need them, and I own an RX-8 and Mazda 6 IRL, so I can live with someone else owning Mazda in NS.Hmm... you give up ownership of just the motorcycle divisions or of the entire companies?

Santa Barbara: Tiny? Insignficant? These are still global companies man. I admit I have sliced BMW up into divisions, but that's so I can concentrate on Europe and Asia with my sales(not that I'll EVER do a storefront. Never liked thoses things. Feels like cheap RP).

OOC

Global companies in RL earth, sure. Remembering that their markets are really only what, 300 million to one or two billion people in RL earth population... my population and overall economy, not to mention percentages of NS earth markets, being so much more that any large auto companies in my nation are going to dwarf these. So naturally the leaders of the Conglomerate are going to look upon this as small cupcakes, when they're throwing away potential trade with, say, EOTED just for political reasons.

AM General Jerusalem ... we only make Hummers and Humvees.

It's only a small division of AM General. I'm not claiming AM General globally ...

OOC

Global companies in RL earth, sure. Remembering that their markets are really only what, 300 million to one or two billion people in RL earth population... my population and overall economy, not to mention percentages of NS earth markets, being so much more that any large auto companies in my nation are going to dwarf these. So naturally the leaders of the Conglomerate are going to look upon this as small cupcakes, when they're throwing away potential trade with, say, EOTED just for political reasons.EOTED? Why would they be tossing away trade oppertunities? I'm allied with them(sorta) and a lot of the other nations, but not all, are too.

In any case, they are able to sevice my nation and several other nations around the world. That's billions of people. I would have to imagine that they grew with the market base. It would be idiotic not to.

Jeruselem: Accepted. Updating now.

Hrmm... :?

I will rebuild Mazda into the greatness it can achieve! Watch out, Mazda's coming back!

An Isochronous company owns the automotive manufacturers Porsche, Holden & Chrysler.

Well, "I" do not own any corporations (after all, "I" do not exist in NationStates, but that seems rather besides the point). Iansisle was once home to several major automobile corporations, but as the industry matured, they were bought out one by one by the Westerton Motor-Car Company, currently operated by Marcus Westerton III.

Westerton is based in Weshield, Iansisle, and has primary manufacturing plants in Fort Jackson, Ianapalis, and Lakeriverwood. The Lakeriverwood plant manufactures primarily the piston engines used on most aeroflyers manufactured by Graye or Bankfield, whereas the Fort Jackson and Ianapalis plants are more traditional automobile centers mainly producing the ubiquitous 'Jackrabbit', currenly in its fourth version.

An attempt to go international was made to go international by acquiring Stockley Motors of Walmington on Sea (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=51871), but the coming of the war forced an end to the bid. The company was in existence, of course long before that, helping to produce the "Shell-Westerton Armored Car" of fame...or infamy...or delightful obscurity, but time seems to have eroded the record.

Me owns these ones! (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=101949)

An Isochronous company owns the automotive manufacturers Porsche, Holden & Chrysler.OOC: Provide proof.

This goes for everyone. You make a claim, back it up in the same post with a link or a really good reason.

Iansisle: I am not interested in made up companies. I am interested in companies from RL.

Santa Barbara: I do not recognize any claims made in a joke thread. Also I am not sifting through that bigass list.

Claims denied.

Westerton Figment of Imagination?
Crimmond accuses fifth largest employer in the Commonwealth of 'not existing in Real Life'

FORT JACKSON, Iansisle -- Residents of the supposed home of Iansislean automobile manufacture were stunned to learn Monday that their employer was "made up."

"All this time I assumed I worked for the Westerton Motor-Car Company," said Hal Andrews, typical of many confused perhaps-employees of the theoretical industrial giant. "I mean, I get a paycheck every month signed by Mr. Westerton's secretary's stamp, and the bank seems willing enough to cash it."

The declaration made waves as far as Ianapalis, where Hiresh Dhawan called an emergency cabinet meeting to discuss the situation. If Westerton, second only to the Iansislean International Telegraph Corporation, Royal Mining and Manufacturing, the United Banking Concerns of Lakeriverwood, and the East Gallaga Company in number of Iansisleans employed, were to suddenly stop existing, economic disaster would result.

"Right now, we have to go on the assumption that Westerton, in fact, does exist," said the Prime Minister after the meeting. "I'm not sure our other companies, and certainly not just those in the Fort Jackson area, could absorb that many out-of-workers. The results could be chaos."

Speaking at a press conference later in the day, Minister of Finance Dr. Benton Blayer was quoted as insisting that the Westerton Motor-Car Company did, in fact, exist and that workers should continue to return to their jobs.

"After all," he said, "Crimmond only used the acronym 'R.L.' - that could mean just about anything. I often use it to mean, ah, registered llamas. Yeah."

The Minister had no comments on if there was a new law being enacted requiring llamas to be registered, and the Iansislean Llama Raisers Association has publicly stated that it intends to bring up the matter with parliament at its first convenience. Not only that, but he refused to answer Crimmond's accusations that Westerton was "made up."

"I've met Mr. Westerton, and I can assure you that he is as real as you or I. Please, have faith in our government and business interests."

Leading U.F.O. enthusiasts have speculated that perhaps Dr. Blayer does not exist either, and the entire thing is one giant conspiracy to cover up the fact that Iansisle's real Minister of Finance was abducted by Martians three years ago. Dr. Blayer also had no comment on that.

OOC: That was an OOC statement. I could find no reference for the company you listed on the internet. 3/4 of this thread is OOC.

Santa Barbara: I do not recognize any claims made in a joke thread. Also I am not sifting through that bigass list.

Claims denied.

In that case you shouldn't recognize any of anyone's claims, as the concept is silly enough to be a joke.

Ah well, not like I need your recognition. I claim them, and unless anyone is gonna challenge me directly, they're mine, period. Boo yah. :oops:

OOC: That was an OOC statement. I could find no reference for the company you listed on the internet. 3/4 of this thread is OOC.

(ooc: Wow, you should change your name to Mr. I-don't-have-a-sense-of-humor Pants.)

An Isochronous company owns the automotive manufacturers Porsche, Holden & Chrysler.OOC: Provide proof.

This goes for everyone. You make a claim, back it up in the same post with a link or a really good reason.

Iansisle: I am not interested in made up companies. I am interested in companies from RL.

OOC: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2318207

Isochronous: Claims over said car companies are accepted.

Except for your claim of total ownership of Porsche. I own 55% of the public stock. http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=101614 is the proof.

Aelosia controls Jaguar and Aston Martin.

Aelosia controls Jaguar and Aston Martin.

PEOPLE! PROVIDE PROOF! DO NOT JUST CLAIM YOU HAVE IT, BACK IT UP!

Anyone else doing this will have their claims rejected and not be added to the list.

Isochronous: Claims over said car companies are accepted.

Except for your claim of total ownership of Porsche. I own 55% of the public stock. http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=101614 is the proof.

Very well then. Tamazoid Enterprises owns 45%.

Isochronous: Claims over said car companies are accepted.

Except for your claim of total ownership of Porsche. I own 55% of the public stock. http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=101614 is the proof.

Very well then. Tamazoid Enterprises owns 45%.You misunderstand. There are two types of stock, company owned stock and public stock. You own at least 51% of the company through the company owned stock. I am just the largest owner of the public stock, which means my 55% of public stock may only be 25% of the total stock.

Western Asia lays claim to the following RL companies that are involved or may be involved in the production of automobiles and vehicles:

Automotive Industries, Ltd. (AIL)
Israel Military Industries, Ltd. (IMI, now known as Greater Israel Military Industries, Ltd. or GIMI. Formerly known as TAAS)
Soltam Systems, Ltd.
The Elisra Group
Tadiran Communications, Ltd.
SkyCat International, Ltd.
RAFAEL, Inc. (Armament Development Authority Ltd.)
Israel Shipyards (now known as GINY, LLC. (Greater Israel Naval Yards))

Resources Supporting (others available upon request):
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=88338&highlight= (Note: Please DO NOT post on this thread, it is in the works)
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=20024&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

While disputes may arise over the ownership of certain properties, it is assumed either that WA has precedence in its claim or that certain items are exempt from the company's control/licensed previously to the selling body/stolen or disseminated intellectual property and designs/derived from expired patents. Discussion on the specific case is open and welcomed.

As an additional note, conflicting claims with the nationstate Jerusalem (and select other nations RPing as Israel, some future form of Israel, or a country that controls Israel...by specific approval) are not recognized and Jerusalem has full right to employ products of these companies that are derived IRL. In return, it is hoped, Jerusalem is willing to extend similar conditions to Western Asia.

GMC Military Arms owns Daewoo, as first stated in the original [dead] OCAW sales thread back in Feb.

WA: Uh.... so you control those companies, but invote other nations to do the same, yet you have renamed them all(I think)... *gets headache* Explain please.

GMCMA: Based on your name, I assumed you'd be first to jump on GMC, but okay. Updating now.

WA: Uh.... so you control those companies, but invote other nations to do the same, yet you have renamed them all(I think)... *gets headache* Explain please.

Only two companies have been renamed (formerly known as IMI and IS).

The invitation is a recognition that some of their products (but not all) have been used previously by other countries...it is not an open pass for other countries to use their products after now. The multiverse allows there to be several of each specific country at any time (ie, Jerusalem and WA control similar territories...ADK and WA used to both own Turkey and territories around Israel until a deal was made to amend the situation)...and so there could theoretically be alternates of some of these companies in each version of the country (newer countries that claim these territories have less ability to ensure their claims and are likely not going to be allowed to use the properties).

Only Jerusalem is currently accepted as holding similar claims to products of these nations...other nations can seek such an allowance but are not automatically granded one.

In the end, WA controls these companies and will produce products under their names.

Updated

As of this afternoon, Bajon controls Ferrari as well. And so ends my mighty campaign for automotive domination... I still have a possible eye on Hyundai...

Western Asia lays claim to the following RL companies that are involved or may be involved in the production of automobiles and vehicles:

Automotive Industries, Ltd. (AIL)
Israel Military Industries, Ltd. (IMI, now known as Greater Israel Military Industries, Ltd. or GIMI. Formerly known as TAAS)
Soltam Systems, Ltd.
The Elisra Group
Tadiran Communications, Ltd.
SkyCat International, Ltd.
RAFAEL, Inc. (Armament Development Authority Ltd.)
Israel Shipyards (now known as GINY, LLC. (Greater Israel Naval Yards))

Resources Supporting (others available upon request):
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=88338&highlight= (Note: Please DO NOT post on this thread, it is in the works)
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=20024&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

While disputes may arise over the ownership of certain properties, it is assumed either that WA has precedence in its claim or that certain items are exempt from the company's control/licensed previously to the selling body/stolen or disseminated intellectual property and designs/derived from expired patents. Discussion on the specific case is open and welcomed.

As an additional note, conflicting claims with the nationstate Jerusalem (and select other nations RPing as Israel, some future form of Israel, or a country that controls Israel...by specific approval) are not recognized and Jerusalem has full right to employ products of these companies that are derived IRL. In return, it is hoped, Jerusalem is willing to extend similar conditions to Western Asia.

OK

OOC: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2318207

Tamazoid Enterprises has now bought out Rover, Land Rover, Saab & Volvo.

Updated

Das Uber Bump

Though I would dearly like to claim Mitsubishi, I am unsure how to go about this. Any pointers?

Though I would dearly like to claim Mitsubishi, I am unsure how to go about this. Any pointers?Post a thread indicating how you bought it. As long as you have a thread, I'm happy. It also provides proof to anyone else that comes along two moths from now and wants it.

OK

Thanks, Crimmond.

OOC:

I will, of course, ignore any and all claims on this thread. Why? Because RL companies shouldn't be claimable. If car companys, why not armaments manufacturers? The precident was set with military goods, no one can claim rights over any RL corporation.

If we wish to ignore that then I claim Lockheed, Northrop-Grumman, MAPO-MIG, Sukhoi and General Dynamics. :D

See, silly huh?

OOC:

I will, of course, ignore any and all claims on this thread. Why? Because RL companies shouldn't be claimable. If car companys, why not armaments manufacturers? The precident was set with military goods, no one can claim rights over any RL corporation.

If we wish to ignore that then I claim Lockheed, Northrop-Grumman, MAPO-MIG, Sukhoi and General Dynamics. :D

See, silly huh?

Not at all...people can come up with their own companies...

Then again, I'm not modern tech...so it doesn't effect me :wink:

OOC:

I will, of course, ignore any and all claims on this thread. Why? Because RL companies shouldn't be claimable. If car companys, why not armaments manufacturers? The precident was set with military goods, no one can claim rights over any RL corporation.

If we wish to ignore that then I claim Lockheed, Northrop-Grumman, MAPO-MIG, Sukhoi and General Dynamics. :D

See, silly huh?

Not at all...people can come up with their own companies...

Then again, I'm not modern tech...so it doesn't effect me :wink:

People can come up with their own armaments companies too.

If I make a car storefront(which isn't likely) and sell an RL car, and anyone complains, then this is my "shove your claim into any body oriface you like" post.

Then again FH claimed Boeing and tried to stop people from selling them using OOC methods.

As far as I am concerned, real companies do not exist in NS - only made-up companies that happen to sell products with the same design as real products. Different NS nations can control different companies selling essentially the same product.

Yeah, this a nice argument, but I don't really care about modern tech nations claiming these companies, I'm future.

Besides, I'm producing models either from decades ago for notalgia or making my own up.