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Early this morning, a violent protest broke out around the gates of Capitol Temple Square in Vancouver Raysia. Although protestors around the gates are very common, several people claiming to be Baptists started to get violent, quickly drawing more into the area, almost as if it was organized. Police Cyphers quickly made their way over to the area to monitor the protests, while Police Officers prepared Riot Gear. The crowd didn't really get violent until the group decided to bust through the security checkpoints and jump the fences. They began to light their picket signs on fire and use them as torches, setting trees ablaze and hammering away at Christmas displays. Before they could do much damage, the Police Cyphers opened fire with paintball guns and rubber bullets, summarily beating the trouble-makers into submission. The Police officers made their way into the Square just when a number of the resilliant terrorists broke out handguns and shotguns. 2 officers were shot, but all the armed terrorists were quickly disarmed, leaving 4 of the armed ones dead by use of deadly force.


Government President of Raysia, Nathaniel M. Hatch, had this to say an hour after the incident:

"Raysia will not condone terrorism, especially from its own citizens. Until this crisis is fully resolved, or at least minimized to a non-threatening level, we will be Monitoring every Baptist in Raysia. Yes, this is profiling, but is only for your safety. Do not worry, we have no intentions of treating them unfairly."

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Hi Raysia, got some Baptist extremists?

We'd use them as target practice for our helicopter gunships. :wink:
You have our moral support against the Baptists despite you being Mormons.

Hi Raysia, got some Baptist extremists?

We'd use them as target practice for our helicopter gunships. :wink:
You have our moral support against the Baptists despite you being Mormons.The last ones like this got transferred straight from jail to a nation where Baptists are treated like they treat other religions :P

We will not stand for Bigotry.

Hi Raysia, got some Baptist extremists?

We'd use them as target practice for our helicopter gunships. :wink:
You have our moral support against the Baptists despite you being Mormons.The last ones like this got transferred straight from jail to a nation where Baptists are treated like they treat other religions :P

We will not stand for Bigotry.

Thread of interest to you and you don't have to join.
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=101677&highlight=

Hi Raysia, got some Baptist extremists?

We'd use them as target practice for our helicopter gunships. :wink:
You have our moral support against the Baptists despite you being Mormons.The last ones like this got transferred straight from jail to a nation where Baptists are treated like they treat other religions :P

We will not stand for Bigotry.

Thread of interest to you and you don't have to join.
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=101677&highlight=LOL Psst, I was the first to reply to that :P

HAHAHA! Roania calls themselves Catholic... heh, I'm not even Catholic, and to me Roania sounds like Jihad Catholicism :P

Also note, whoever joins this Alliance will Immediately go on Raysia's Code Orange List

So anyway, do you need help or something? Your citizens will find safe refuge in Raysia... we're a varitable fortress. :)

Hi Raysia, got some Baptist extremists?

We'd use them as target practice for our helicopter gunships. :wink:
You have our moral support against the Baptists despite you being Mormons.The last ones like this got transferred straight from jail to a nation where Baptists are treated like they treat other religions :P

We will not stand for Bigotry.

Thread of interest to you and you don't have to join.
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=101677&highlight=LOL Psst, I was the first to reply to that :P

HAHAHA! Roania calls themselves Catholic... heh, I'm not even Catholic, and to me Roania sounds like Jihad Catholicism :P

Also note, whoever joins this Alliance will Immediately go on Raysia's Code Orange List

So anyway, do you need help or something? Your citizens will find safe refuge in Raysia... we're a varitable fortress. :)

Here's situation ...

Ruler of Roania ... Alexander Black, son of sister of Emperor of Holy Latin Empire
Ruler of Jeruselem ... daughter of brother of Emperor of Holy Latin Empire

Holy Latin Empire is my other nation. One big family, but couldn't breed out the Roanian taste for authoritarism

Government President Of Raysia: Nathaniel M. Hatch - Called by Prophecy.

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Why do westerners hate their religious branches so much. You are all part of Christianity, and all worship God and Heaven...

Why do westerners hate their religious branches so much. You are all part of Christianity, and all worship God and Heaven...

It is because they all think they are the right one. Almost every form of religion, and all subbranches are represented in Kajiraki, yet ther1e is no violence.

Why do westerners hate their religious branches so much. You are all part of Christianity, and all worship God and Heaven...

It is because they all think they are the right one. Almost every form of religion, and all subbranches are represented in Kajiraki, yet ther1e is no violence.Because the church Baptists like to protest the most is the mormon Church... they don't really like us, and as most, they don't consider us to be Christian *roll*

Have you accepted the baptists? Maybe you calling them all extremists prompts them to attack you. You should learn to hold your tounge when they insult.

Christians consider Buddhism wrong, and call is Schmatic (Sp?), but we do not ban them.

If progress is ever to be made, the party with less pride must make the first move
-Another Tibetan Meditator

Have you accepted the baptists? Maybe you calling them all extremists prompts them to attack you. You should learn to hold your tounge when they insult.We call them extremists because normal baptists want us to call them that so that we don't think every baptist is an amoral brainless hippie... They are labelled extremists after-the-fact.

Christians consider Buddhism wrong, and call is Schmatic (Sp?), but we do not ban them.

If progress is ever to be made, the party with less pride must make the first move
-Another Tibetan MeditatorAnd thats why we don't consider any religion necessarily "wrong," as long as their intentions are good. If their intentions are to destroy other religions, then they have no business here.

But they shall never give up Raysia, for the ultimate goal of Christianity is to save as many souls as possible. And to save souls, you must convert them to your religion.

I repeat; If progress is ever to be made, the party with less pride must make the first move.

Suggesting that you should try to make a peaceful existance with them.

But they shall never give up Raysia, for the ultimate goal of Christianity is to save as many souls as possible. And to save souls, you must convert them to your religion.

I repeat; If progress is ever to be made, the party with less pride must make the first move.

Suggesting that you should try to make a peaceful existance with them.How? What have we done wrong? please, point out the err in our ways... all we did was stop a riot.

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But they shall never give up Raysia, for the ultimate goal of Christianity is to save as many souls as possible. And to save souls, you must convert them to your religion.

I repeat; If progress is ever to be made, the party with less pride must make the first move.

Suggesting that you should try to make a peaceful existance with them.How? What have we done wrong? please, point out the err in our ways... all we did was stop a riot.

Hi Raysia, it's Jeruselem as another puppet.
Need any help with Baptists?

But they shall never give up Raysia, for the ultimate goal of Christianity is to save as many souls as possible. And to save souls, you must convert them to your religion.

I repeat; If progress is ever to be made, the party with less pride must make the first move.

Suggesting that you should try to make a peaceful existance with them.How? What have we done wrong? please, point out the err in our ways... all we did was stop a riot.

Hi Raysia, it's Jeruselem as another puppet.
Need any help with Baptists?Can we deport a few of them? We'd rather not leave them up to the NRA... Rumors are emerging that the NRA has received several requests for hits on them.

But they shall never give up Raysia, for the ultimate goal of Christianity is to save as many souls as possible. And to save souls, you must convert them to your religion.

I repeat; If progress is ever to be made, the party with less pride must make the first move.

Suggesting that you should try to make a peaceful existance with them.How? What have we done wrong? please, point out the err in our ways... all we did was stop a riot.

Hi Raysia, it's Jeruselem as another puppet.
Need any help with Baptists?Can we deport a few of them? We'd rather not leave them up to the NRA... Rumors are emerging that the NRA has received several requests for hits on them.

We wouldn't take them. They'll get killed within 24 hours (read "Inquisition"). Maybe other nations will take them more.

Hmm, in that case, we'll jut keep them in jail for their 4 month sentences and then turn them back onto the streets... open season out there.

Hmm, in that case, we'll jut keep them in jail for their 4 month sentences and then turn them back onto the streets... open season out there.

Mormonize them! or maybe bribery and corruption might work?

Hmm, in that case, we'll jut keep them in jail for their 4 month sentences and then turn them back onto the streets... open season out there.

Mormonize them! or maybe bribery and corruption might work?I'm sorry, but Mormons don't forcibly convert anyone :P However, in this case... hmm...

Hmm, in that case, we'll jut keep them in jail for their 4 month sentences and then turn them back onto the streets... open season out there.

Mormonize them! or maybe bribery and corruption might work?I'm sorry, but Mormons don't forcibly convert anyone :P However, in this case... hmm...

They'll see the light ... or a sword (in our case)

Raysia, if you wish, the colony of Western Navascuez would allow you to expatriate the "extremists" and allow them to live here with the guaranteed rights of citizens here after a period of three years (the time allotted for immigrants to become citizens). Navascuez considers herself a safehaven for Protestants, especially evangelical Protestants.

Raysia, if you wish, the colony of Western Navascuez would allow you to expatriate the "extremists" and allow them to live here with the guaranteed rights of citizens here after a period of three years (the time allotted for immigrants to become citizens). Navascuez considers herself a safehaven for Protestants, especially evangelical Protestants.LOL I think you misunderstand the difference between Protestants and Violent Protestors :P If you are willing to accept the radicals into your nation, then we will consider it.

What exactly were they protesting?

What exactly were they protesting?The Mormon church... usual stuff. We try to keep them at bay, but they must have organized an attack or something... good thing they didn't plan it too well.

The Dominion of Eredron supports the actions taken by the Raysian government with regards to this matter.

Well then, we'll have them sign this contract, and if they break the rules presented to them we'll deal with them:

We understand that Western Navascuez is a nation rooted in the evangelical Protestant tradition, and its laws are based on this. We also understand that while the government accepts the Christian worldview, it will not favor one denomination over the other at any point in time. Should failure to recognize this result in violent protest, we understand that we will be deported immediately.

Signed,
[Baptist protesters names here]

We'd be glad to take them for a while and...reeducate them. Not with torture or anything, I agree, we are also averse to forcibly showing people our views. But we can teach and show them to be patriotic and proud of their Baptist heritage while still being peaceful. As you can see in our factbook entry, our citizens are both patriotic and peaceful, and we think that these people can learn by example. If they cause trouble, however, they will be subject to our punishment laws, which might be a little stricter than you like.

If we just take them in you won't ever have to worry about them again because they'll be residents of Navascuez, and they'll be given full rights so long as they don't break the law of the land

My solution allows for families to not be broken up by the extremists being permanently removed while the rest stay behind. You can move all extrimists, all baptists, or just temporarily send them to El Deo and get them back. Time spent here is negotiable, suggested amount is around the time they would be sentenced for jail time in Raysia, that way they would not be missed more than if you kept them in your contry in jail.

We don't intend to break up the families, they're welcome to enter Navascuez too as immigrants that can apply for citizenship after the three-year mark.

That could make certain countries angry who might see Raysia as exporting everyone of a certain religion just because a few people did something wrong.

Would they be safer in Raysia where people would remember their actions and possibly use violent measures against them?

I have my doubts that any rational Mormon would take action against the Baptists. They may indeed be persecuted for their actions, but would they be any less persecuted in Western Navascuez? I'm sure, not by your government, but you, nor I, nor any of us, can control the actions of our citizens. We can try very, very hard, but there will always be one.
I stand firm - the best thing to do is take corrective, non-violent action, not to deport everyone.

I have full faith in our citizens that they'll accept these Baptists as one of their own, there's a strong sense of brother hood among the people here, especially the particularly religious ones. While we feel that ordinarily rehabilitation would be the proper form of action here, this is a special (i.e. religious matter), and we Navascans feel that the situation calls for special circumstances.