NationStates Jolt Archive

Ground forces: 5,000 armed combat troops

Organized into two (2) 2,500 man divisions

(Note-Numbers listed=Per division)
HMMWVs-50

Tanks-
30 Type 74s
30 Type 90s
15 M1A2

Artillery-
5 Type 75

Armored Vehicles-
25 Type 82 CCVs
50 Type 82 RCV
40 Type 89 IFV
50 Type 96 WAPC

AAA
50 Type 87
25 Type 93

Navy-4,450 sailors

10 Oliver Hazzard Perry Class Frigate
20 PGM-1 Cyclone Class Patrol Boats
15 PG-1 Go Class Missle Patrol Boats
10 Harushio Class Attack Subs

Air Force-180 pilots

50 F-5J Bokken
45 F-4E Phantoms
10 F-4EJ Kai
10 F-15 Eagles
10 F-16C Falcons
6 C-2

70 Helicopter Pilots (DAP pilots and Little Bird Pilots counted bellow)
10 UH-1 Hueys
15 AH-1 Cobras
10 AH-64 Apaches
10 UH-60 DAP
10 AH-6 Little Birds

Specialty Units

Oni:
600 Combat personel, 40 pilots

The Oni are trained for intense urban combat. The men train for months on end to become physically and mentally fit to fight in the extremes of urban, or FIBUA combat. They have their own pilots (who fly teh UH-60 DAPs, and AH-6 Little Birds). Armed with 7.62mm NATO M14 rifles and other larger caliber weapons, they use terrain to their advantage, as well as knowledge of all the cities they fight in. Pilots are trained intensly as well, and fly their helicopters inbetween buildings, and AH-6 pilots will actually put their birds on the street to cover troops.

OOC: Modified, taking Sketch's advice. When I get a larger population, I'll be building my military in the same way as the real JSDF, and be replacing all nonindiginous fighters with locally made ones, same with all units that are not Japanese.

OOC:

I'd say drop the Iowas.

consiodering your size, I'd say it's about right. although i'm not an expert on militaries

Wow....reasonable numbers for once. I'm impressed. *gives cookie*

I'd agree with Vrak, drop the Iowas, but mainly becuase they're not that useful anymore anyways.

Wow....reasonable numbers for once. I'm impressed. *gives cookie*

I'd agree with Vrak, drop the Iowas, but mainly becuase they're not that useful anymore anyways.

Gotcha. Im going for mixed tech levels, with my troops being the most well funded, followed by airforce, then navy (which is dumb cuz Im island based, lol)

yeah, drop the Battleships and the light cruisers, instead may'be you should use more patrol boats and Frigates(2-4 frigates would be fine)...Take about 72 MBT's, and way more than 50 HMMV's, Armour personell carriers should also be of a higher quality thant the ones you already have. Since your military is small they should be fairly well equipped and have reliable transportation.

Thats of course if you're a militaristic nation, and of course draft people.

yeah, drop the Battleships and the light cruisers, instead may'be you should use more patrol boats and Frigates(2-4 frigates would be fine)...Take about 72 MBT's, and way more than 50 HMMV's, Armour personell carriers should also be of a higher quality thant the ones you already have. Since your military is small they should be fairly well equipped and have reliable transportation.

Thats of course if you're a militaristic nation, and of course draft people.

Well, right now its just a Defense Forcie, and I dont want it to be to big yet, cuz I havve plans...indiginous fighter in a week, FS-X in a month, power armor in two/two.5, Zero II in three.5. However, I'll take the rest to word, and look for some good cheap patroll boats and frigates. Thanks for the help all.

Hmmm, since you're an Island...depending on how large you are (the assumption that you are Taiwan sized)

I would cut down on the number of "random" aircraft. Get a few solid squadrons of good interceptors - F-16s or better. Upgrade quickly to VTOL craft, like the JSF.

Increase the amount of attack helos, also making them better models - Apaches or Comanches.

For the Navy, I would invest in deisel-electric subs. Very good for extremely silent coastal water patrols. The German type (don't know the exact number) are very good, a challenge even for American sonar to pick up.

Have plenty of mine layers, and sweepers. Perhaps a missile ship or two, if you can somehow get away with it.

Since you already have very little artillery, that's fine, you don't really need it as an Island nation.

You can have more advanced tanks, since you have so few anyways.

Don't forget to include lots and lots of AAA. gotta keep those bobers away!

I think your focus should be on preventing the enemy from getting on the Island in the first place. Since any fighting will invarible lead to destruction of a limited habitable area (hence the limitations on artillery). So, main focus should be on boosting your coastal defense. Force projection is not required as it is an offensive trait, but area denial is good. Thus, aircraft carriers = useless, and subs = good investment.

cool
but how ab't a stronger navy force?

Right, when I get a bit older, I might go for one or two projection fleets, but for the most part, its a brown watter navy. Im RPing as if a Samurai (Ryo Kajiraki) took Japan over after the bombing of hiroshima and....I cant remeber the other place ATM...So the island is japan. Im about to go to bed, but I'll take all the advice in, thanks much

Kajiraki's player.

Yeah, sketch makes a good point. Ground Defence Force should try and limit artillery and maximise infantry capability. If you are trying to prevent invasion than having a well trained infantry force dug into well made emplacements would be essential.

Also, you could take an example from Swedens book. Raise specially trained urban fighting regiments that utilize high calibre weaponry like 7.62x 45mm or may'be even larger. Also, for a small island nation like yours it might be a good idea to run mandatory conscription, so as you could mobilize anyone in your population with the minimum of training if the need arises.

Yeah, mandatory two year service at the age of 20, and I havent even started thinking about special forces types yet...'cept for Ninjas, of course...but they aren't gonna be military, but Kajiraki Intelligence Agency

I suggest you get some LCAC's (landing hovercraft)

Freedom Country Storefront (fcns.heateddebate.org)

I made this for an ally of mine Freedom Country. He sells some very good navy equipment including very cheap packages and a naval aviation section (carrier basedplanes and so on.)

Bump

I'd add personnel to both the navy and air force...

leave the pacific region to many countrys are thair you will never know the true might of your army being in that part of the world

I'd add personnel to both the navy and air force...

How much would you recomend?


**Note-Numbers do not include support personel. For the most part, support personel come from teh required 2 years service at teh age of 20. Thos who chose to stay in the military are paid while in college, and then join an actual unit.**

Hi, i dont know whether this is topic hijacking or anything but i have read what you are talking about (and several other threads about militaries) and i really dont understand what is going on. Other threads have talked about people not being 'old enough' to by the units, what does this mean? Also, how do you know how much money your country has so you can purchase all this stuff and how do you know when it has been 'delivered'? Finally, where do you 'buy' it from, i ave visited the link to the Naval shop and understand that but i dont understand where to get the infantry, armoured units etc. Please help
Any information would be greatly welcomed, From me

P.S: Your military seems of pretty good size to me, if you are only having to defend an island. I may possibly have had more Infantry though, or a system where reserves can be called up (if that is possible, i really dont understand much about it!)

leave the pacific region to many countrys are thair you will never know the true might of your army being in that part of the world

Im trying to find a good region to go to.

I'd add personnel to both the navy and air force...

How much would you recomend?


**Note-Numbers do not include support personel. For the most part, support personel come from teh required 2 years service at teh age of 20. Thos who chose to stay in the military are paid while in college, and then join an actual unit.**

Anywhere from 200 to 300 for frigates and about 100 or so for attack submarines. Patrol boats, on the other hand, about 20 to 30.

Navy Stuff (http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/factfile/ffiletop.html#ships)

Aircraft, obviously requires pilots to each fighter (two for twin-seaters). Bombers will need at least four or so crew (not completely sure). Then your air force has lots of support units as each craft will need a ground crew.

leave the pacific region to many countrys are thair you will never know the true might of your army being in that part of the world

Im trying to find a good region to go to.


Not to boast or anything, but

Check out my region... plenty of well-known roleplayers and military know-it-alls. Private forum, too.