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Attention nations on Mars

The Eastern Bloc
30-11-2003, 04:24
The Eurydian Republic is interested in purchasing a bit of outer space in orbit of Mars. If any nation would be willing to sell roughly 500-600 km^3 of outer space to us, it would be greatly appreciated. We will purchase, rather than lay claim to any orbiting territory. We feel that a pissing contest would ensue and the 30 nations would claim to own the space. Therefore... we are going to buy it.

The land will be used for an orbital space station. The station will be focused on commerce and trade as well as diplomacy. The station will have no offensive or defensive weaponry, although one War-Cruiser and 100 fighters will be stationed there for safety reasons. This station will not be a staging ground for an invasion, nor will it be an orbital mining facality aimed at stripping Mars of any natural resources. This is merely a way for us to get more involved with things going on in the Sol System.

If any nation's interested, please give us a quote as to how much the area asked for would cost.

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Icarus Traiden,
Emperor
Roania
30-11-2003, 04:28
Why bother? We would be pleased to rent a portion of Phobos to you, Emperor Traiden. Pinnacle Base barely takes up half of it, and we would also aid you in building the docks.

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Steel Butterfly
30-11-2003, 04:31
"An interesting idea," the newly made Sky Marshall thought to himself. "Perhaps to protect the empire from Sol interference...we should interfere in the Sol system as well..."

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Sky Marshall Michael Zephyr
Commander of the Imperial Fleet and Marines
The Eastern Bloc
30-11-2003, 04:33
Your offer is generous, and greatly appreciated. I must decline however, for the station has already been built. The station itself is an artistic masterpiece, and will help people to better undestand the Republic. Also, the station and surrounding space would become sovereign territory of the Republic.

Still, if you own space in the vicinity of Mars, we would be willing to purchase that from you. If you do not, thank you for your kind offer nonetheless.

-Traiden
The Eastern Bloc
30-11-2003, 04:53
*bump* for exposure.

I'd like to get this thing started tonight, if possible.
The Eastern Bloc
30-11-2003, 05:53
*sigh* So, no takers? I guess I'll have to come up with something else then.
Spacer Guilds
30-11-2003, 06:44
We of the Guilds would be happy to sell you space in the Ring Belt. The space junk is a bit heavy there, but nothing the two of us can't handle. Of course, if you station is especially large, or has delicate projections, you would want to keep it in the thinner sections.
-Guild Phoenicia
The Eastern Bloc
30-11-2003, 07:56
You mean to say the station would be amongst... garbage? Your offer is indeed kind... but is there somewhere else where we can put this station? I waould hate to be placed amongst trash... it would give a very bad look to the "FarStation." We are willing to pay top dollar for something in a more clear area.

I hope you can oblidge to my request.

-Traiden
Spacer Guilds
30-11-2003, 22:55
Not garbage, exactly. Lots of ice and rock. It's very pretty, but just slightly hazardous in the denser areas.
-Guild Phoenicia
Wazzu
30-11-2003, 23:17
By international law, orbital space is free. No one may own it.

Also by international law, nations "own" waters up to a certain (debated) amount of distance from their nation...usually 5-10.

It is therefore reasonable to assume that wherever you place a permanent station, you "own" space 5-10 miles away.

At least, thats how Wazzu interprets international law in free space.

As a nation with colonies on Venus, Earth, Luna, and Mars, and as a nation with permanent station presences around Venus, Luna, and Mars, Wazzu has no problem with The Eastern Block building or moving a station into Mars orbit.

Indeed, we feel that The Eastern Block should be wary of any nation that claims to own or sell space as all space is free.

-Wazzu Ministry of Diplomacy
-Wazzu Space Administration
The Eastern Bloc
01-12-2003, 01:19
Hmmm... An interesting point Wazzu. Perhaps you are right in your interpretation. It would be much cheaper to just claim a bit of space in orbit of Mars.

Hmmm, your offer was very generous Space Guilds, but we weren't really aware of international law as it pertains to free space, at least space within the Sol System.

It is settled then, operations to bring the Farstation to Mars will commence immedietly.

-Traiden
Spacer Guilds
01-12-2003, 05:37
Those silly Wazzuians! And we almost had a deal! Meh. They say there's a sucker born every minute, but what they don't tell you is that there are plenty of honest folk to fill them in before you get to swindling 'em! Oh well.
-Private Musings of the Captain of the Civillian Barge Cassiopea
Bajon
01-12-2003, 06:09
Message to Eastern Bloc:
"Bajon would recommend you claim an area over the nuetral oceans. If that is not suitable, your next best bet is to simply position the station near Mars, but not in orbit."
-Governor Azura Indoril
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OOC: For a current map of Mars, go to "The Planet Mars" region, and go to the link in the factbook. On the site is the current "official" map of Mars. (Its terraformed :D )
The Eastern Bloc
01-12-2003, 06:23
OOC: Terraformed... my goodness. A lot has changed since I left Sol. :wink:

Well... yes then... I'll make sure to claim something that won't get in the way of anything. In the thread about me moving there, there will be plenty of opportunity for nations to voice objections and whatnot.
Crimmond
01-12-2003, 06:32
OOC: Terraformed... my goodness. A lot has changed since I left Sol. :wink: OOC: Venus is being terraformed too.

IC: We would allow you to build a station over the Mizer 3 province of Mars, as long as it isn't basicly a floating gun platform. Other than that, you have permisson.

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The Eastern Bloc
01-12-2003, 06:35
OOC: Thanks... that solves any problems with... nations gettin pissed at me. >_<

IC: Your offer is accepted. The station is far from an offensive weapons platform. I'm sure it will actually be quite the wonder to your people once it arrives.

Thank you.

-Traiden
Crimmond
01-12-2003, 06:38
OOC: Thanks... that solves any problems with... nations gettin pissed at me. >_<OOC: What can I say? I'm in a good mood tonight. lol
Spacer Guilds
01-12-2003, 18:25
OOC: Terraformed... my goodness. A lot has changed since I left Sol. :wink: OOC: Venus is being terraformed too.

IC: We would allow you to build a station over the Mizer 3 province of Mars, as long as it isn't basicly a floating gun platform. Other than that, you have permisson.

(OOC: That would be rather difficult, as Mizar isn't on the equator. If you want it to stay in one spot relative to the ground, it must be on the equator. Otherwise, it'll wander all over, and there ain't a darn thing you can do about it.)
Crimmond
01-12-2003, 18:33
(OOC: That would be rather difficult, as Mizar isn't on the equator. If you want it to stay in one spot relative to the ground, it must be on the equator. Otherwise, it'll wander all over, and there ain't a darn thing you can do about it.)It's called thruster technology, linked to an AI. Besides, Mizar is large enough it could wander a bit and stay over my land.
Pilon
01-12-2003, 20:48
We would be willing to allow the Eastern Bloc Station to be put into orbit above our space. If you are willing we would like to integrate it into our orbital defence system that protects the space above Martian Pilon.
Sunset
01-12-2003, 21:10
OOC: Yes, this is going to be mean but it will benefit everyone this way...

IC:

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As you can see, there is a large green blotch on the equator. This is Yggsdril - the World Tree. This tree is essentially a living space elevator that is potentially going to be the hub of the Martian transportation network. We would suggest the station be placed somewhat out from this point. Doubtless other stations will move there as well to provide trade services - the potential revenue is enormous.

Trade Senate Chair Jorz
Spacer Guilds
02-12-2003, 04:10
(OOC: That would be rather difficult, as Mizar isn't on the equator. If you want it to stay in one spot relative to the ground, it must be on the equator. Otherwise, it'll wander all over, and there ain't a darn thing you can do about it.)It's called thruster technology, linked to an AI. Besides, Mizar is large enough it could wander a bit and stay over my land.
OOC: The fuel req.'s would make it entirely impractical, and Mizar is definitely not large enough for it to always stay over your land.

OOC2: Near Yggdrasil is good, but be sure to check with the Snel first. : )
The Eastern Bloc
02-12-2003, 04:13
OOC: Yeah... hopefully people will getting around to the other thread... and post info there. I'd hope to interact with these guys on a more... RP like level.

*shrugs* Heres a link to the new thread... for those that are interested.

Journey to Mars Thread (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=99213&highlight=)
Auman
07-12-2003, 05:11
The Eurydian Republic is interested in purchasing a bit of outer space in orbit of Mars. If any nation would be willing to sell roughly 500-600 km^3 of outer space to us, it would be greatly appreciated. We will purchase, rather than lay claim to any orbiting territory. We feel that a pissing contest would ensue and the 30 nations would claim to own the space. Therefore... we are going to buy it.

The land will be used for an orbital space station. The station will be focused on commerce and trade as well as diplomacy. The station will have no offensive or defensive weaponry, although one War-Cruiser and 100 fighters will be stationed there for safety reasons. This station will not be a staging ground for an invasion, nor will it be an orbital mining facality aimed at stripping Mars of any natural resources. This is merely a way for us to get more involved with things going on in the Sol System.

If any nation's interested, please give us a quote as to how much the area asked for would cost.

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Icarus Traiden,
Emperor

Space belongs to all of us comrade, take as much as you wish. Just dont infringe on our assets...Purchasing outer space is like buying the brooklyn bridge!