NationStates Jolt Archive

A conflict has arisen in our Strategic Command, this debate concerns the storage of our Nova Bombs, a Nova Bomb is a device that is fired from a space warship, into a sun, destroying the entire System that sun is part of, we currently store our Nova Bombs in the very Andromeda-Class ships that would use them if they were needed, each ship hols 50, and we have 300 of the ships, some people are now saying we should remove them from the ships, only equipping the ships with them if we intend to use them, we want to know what other nations think should be done.

OOC: A small note, I'm willing to let this escalate from a simple debate.

IC: In a recent public statement, the Empress has declared "While we will listen to the opinions of the International Community, the final decision is ours, and we will not back down before pleading, bribes, threats, or demands"

OOC: You can post you know, this could make some good IC material if we could get a little back-and-forth started.

I say remove them unless needed... because how many times are your ships just going to be cruising through the cosmos when all of a sudden they need to blow up a solar system? You're usually going to have it all planned out, if you know what I mean. By removing them you are showing that you're not always waiting to blow up solar systems.

Still, the decision is up to you.

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John Guilder
Director of Foreign Affairs.

The Eastern Bloc: True, keeping them on the ships can make us look to warlike, but then again, situations could arise were we had no time to bring the ships back, load a Nova Bomb or two, and attack.

"They discuss WHAT?" Althena couldn`t believe it.
"Well... It`s about bombs that can destroy entire solar systems..."
"Ok. How many?"
"Fifteenthousand systems."
Althena shaked her head, in disbelieve. "Ok... no... No, we wont answer that."
"But... it`s a threat! I mean... you know..."
"Yes. But we recently added ignorium to our ships armours. Their forcefields should be able to protect the entire sol system, though."
"Oh... very good then. If you will excuse me, mylady."

"They can only destroy a mere 15,000 systems? Are they retarded or something?"

"I know, they're such newbies"

~Random councilmembers

OOC: *Sigh*

IC: So far it seems most want us to get rid of them, probably won't happen.

Yes, certain situations could arise where there wouldn't be any time to load up the Nova Bombs onto your ships. Perhaps if you just decreased the numbers it would put the rest of the cosmos at ease. To be quite frank you have me and probably the rest of 47UM shuddering at the thought of our star being... blown up.

May I inquire as to how many times you have actually used these weapons?

-Guilder

The Eastern Bloc: Never, we have never used them, but, if given good reason, we'd blow up any star.

You do realise that such destroying power would cause a dimensional rift?
Our calculations seem to indicate that any ship firing such a weapon will shift into an alternate reality completely cut off from the NS universe. Pretty freaky eh?

I suggest you get rid of these weapons before your entire civilization is sucked into a dimensional shift.

~A Knootian scientist from the Nijmegen Dimensional Physics Instute

"Do you think those Nova Bombs could also disable space stations the size of Texas?"

"I guess so"

~Random Councilmembers

Knootoss: Nice try pal, but NO DICE!!!

Vortex: Yes.

OOC: Good RP material there.

After much debate within the Directorate, they have come to a consensus of sorts. Here is the official Eurydian opinion on the matter...

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We of the Directorate find your WMD most unsettling. Anyone who holds such power would need to do so in a very careful manner. By destroying solar systems you would be playing god with entire civilizations. Wiping out billions of people is a very bad thing to do, fortunatly We feel that Kecha is far from bad. Considering that you have never used these weapons in the past, it can be assumed that they will not be used in the near future. They are a deterrent of sorts to large scale war, or so We assume.

Still, as to your arguement of "No time to bring the ships back," We find that to be a little strange. Considering these weapons have the capability to destroy entire systems, a situation occuring where there wouldn't be enough time to go back, get the bombs, then destroy an entire system... that seems to be a bit weird to Us. The decision to use these weapons should be reached only after all avenues of talk have been used.

We at the Directorate feel this harkens back to Nuclear Bombs on earth and their relative use and effects. We would assume your warships would be Nuclear Submarines and your Nova Bombs the nukes themselves. In those situations Nuclear Submarines would always carry a payload of WMD, and you don't see nations up in arms against that.

When We look at it from that perspective, we come to the conclusion that posessing these Nova Bombs on your ship is you're right, and yours alone. It can only be hoped that they aren't used in a wonton manner.

Thank you for your time.

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Wayden Ultran,
Magistrate and Speaker for the Directorate

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Magistrate Ultran, you are a man of the Silver Tongue, and you made a worthwhile speech, however, the "no time" argument isn't as strange as you may think.

Personally we don't really see a need for such weapons but we can see the reasons behind our trusted ally having them. Prehaps removing some of them and keeping some aboard the ships.

Princess Linda, Grand Admiral of the Teritoran Space Forces.

Teritora: Care to throw around a ratio you feel is acceptable Grand Admiral?

We keep them under heavy lockdown when not in use. 2 ft. thick reenforced Concrete bunkers under 100 yards of compacted dirt, the only access being a heavily guarded control center, with 2 sqauds of soldiers on standby. You have to go through eye-scan, fingerprint-scan, and a simultanious Keycard swipe just to get to the goddamn elevator. In the elevator, the have to swipe a key card, and so does the person in the control room in order for the elevator to move. After the Elevator, the have another key-card swipe, another fingerprint and eyescan, two armed guards with keys, and then you're in the bunker.

Foe Hammer: We'd use....alternative methods.

Teritora: Care to throw around a ratio you feel is acceptable Grand Admiral?

I would say if they hold 50 then keep ten to half the carriable number on board and the rest in storage but ready to sent to the ships if needed.

Teritora: Hmmm, perhaps we could attange a face-to-face so you can see the ships, and the Nova Bombs, and see if you can help arrange a proper Emergencey Transport method for the Nova Bombs?

"They can only destroy a mere 15,000 systems? Are they retarded or something?"

"I know, they're such newbies"

~Random councilmembers

Exactly...and here I thought I was uber-future tech... :roll:

Teritora: Hmmm, perhaps we could attange a face-to-face so you can see the ships, and the Nova Bombs, and see if you can help arrange a proper Emergencey Transport method for the Nova Bombs?

Sounds good to me, I'll grab the Gand Marshal of the Space Police as well.

OK.