NationStates Jolt Archive


Assington Faces Vampires

Assington
29-11-2003, 14:57
It has come to the attention of President Calis that Assington has a growing vampire population. There is much prejudice against these creatures in the international community but Calis wants no part of that.

The problem being, the vampires are feeding on innocent citezens.

Negotiations are to commence between Calis and the vampire leader, Tobias. President Calis also looks to other nations for their opinion in how to resolve such a situation.
29-11-2003, 15:03
I am a vampire myself and I suggest to overcome the problem in a few ways.

1- Producing artifical blood through scientific methods. This has more than one use. Not only would it provide food for vampires, but it would grant those who require blood transfusions with blood.

2- Provide education. Prejudice can be rife, and some vampires are simply fledglings wo have been left in the cold to fend for themselves. Knowing not of what they are, they fall prey to their own instincts. Thereshould be recovery centers and education to non-vampires as well with vampires. That way, prejudice will be reduced, people will understand us better, and vampires can play a useful part in society.

3- Enforce that if someone would wish to sire someone (turn them) that it should be under thier consent, with legal documents. That way, those who do sire without someone's consent can be prosecueted. It can be treated like rape in a sense, that it is life changing, more so in this case. Both the offender and the victim must be dealt with accordingly.

I hope this helps. And also, I do sell a rather delicous product for vampires. Blood Cigars.
29-11-2003, 15:06
"The Daggothian people believe not in vampires. They are scum and evil to the world and it is illegal for vampires to flock to Daggoth. Each one is killed on site.

We highly suggest for you to save your populace from the evil and hunt them down."

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Assington
29-11-2003, 15:08
The President has layed down his first term.

All vampires must be registered. Just like every other citezen of Assington. And all new vampires must be registered as soon as possible from creation.
Assington
29-11-2003, 15:10
President Calis does not believe genocide is the solution. As Assington is free of religion, we have no issues of wether a vampire is against god or not. It is of little concern to him. His main concern is the safety and happiness of ALL citezens of Assington.
Jeruselem
29-11-2003, 15:10
We dealt with this issue in the 14th century, but rather brutally by current standards. They got rounded up and removed from the country, and resistance was met with Christian zealotry (read "death by the sword").

We recommend you do what Kain has said or simply send to a vampire friendly nation if you are inclined to remove them totally. Up to you ...
Assington
29-11-2003, 15:17
Tobias has agreed to this condition and sees it as fair. He puts forth that vampiric centres be established for vampires to socialise and learn to cope with being part of a human society.
29-11-2003, 15:26
It is rather interesting to consider what vampires can do within the job fields.

Teaching. Why, a vampire could learn a great deal on all subjects and teach it all! This of course would nto be practical in soem cases (marking, lesson times) but it is something to think about.

Physical Labor: A vampire's increased strength would be great within some physical jobs.

Doctors: Due to improved eyesight and accuracy, this would be another improvement.

Military: Now....this is a somewhat extremely promising area, yet vampires can be weak to certain elements. I shall not go on further here, that is for your own commanders to predict.

Kain Irenicus
29-11-2003, 16:25
Yeah, integrate them. Everything can be integrated...but some species are more difficult than others. We still can't integrate our alligator population into living together with humans instead of eating them. :D
30-11-2003, 00:15
But there are problems to a vampire intergrated system. Employers would only choose vampires due to thier experiances, so making more and more humans lose jobs by employers choosing vampires.This of course would make those humasn extremely angered. So I would enforce strict regulations about the number of vampires being sired, otherwise your society is not going to be able to cope, due to blood needs.
The Flame Drake Zoltan
30-11-2003, 00:40
It is rather interesting to consider what vampires can do within the job fields.

OOC: I'm seriously thinking of Ignoring this... I mean, I don't think I know of any literature which would support the idea that vampires are completely normal (mentally) and that they are not fighting some kind of inner beast, hunger or anything... seriously, you've taken away their damnation and turned them into another faceless race of people who are not fighting off insanity, their lust or anything.

May I add that while vampires can sustain themselves on none human blood it doesn't satify them... all literature supports that they only like human blood, everything simply allows them to live... but increases their hunger for the real food.

Your disneyland idea of vampires is meant to be a very rare case of vampirism where only a small number of vampires like yourself fight their real nature and instead live a depressing anst filled self hate... or at least something like it.

If this continues, I will no longer concider Kain your agruments at all... your idea of vampires is just completely against anything I've read, and I've read a fair bit... though I don't wear the black clothes or listen to the music or wear fangs... I just like some of the really good books and films that have been made on the subject...

I don't mind this whole "rasism" thing, but this is getting to the point of stupidity... vampires are not normal humans with a stronger muscles, unlimited life span and a alergy to light... they are something which craves human blood, sometimes to the point where they have to "fight the beast within" or "fight the craving" they are like addicts... sometimes they hold on to what little humanity that is left but after a couple hundred years this fades... sometimes they last longer, sometimes they don't even try... but they they will lose it eventually.

I think I'll ask you to look into what angelus has said, because while she is arrogant and at times self rightous and rude... she has RPed with vampires and the mentally for long enough to know something about how it's done...


Yes, this is freeform roleplay... but this is becoming something like RPing elves as miners who live underground... its not in their character and it goes against what everyone thinks about them... and so do your vampires.
Assington
30-11-2003, 02:30
The blood problem has been solved.

Tobias and Calis have agreed upon two solutions. The production of synthetic blood. And the feeding of criminals to vampires. Both sides feel this is an effective solution and it shall be implemented.
Slutbum Wallah
30-11-2003, 02:36
OOC: I'm seriously thinking of Ignoring this... I mean, I don't think I know of any literature which would support the idea that vampires are completely normal (mentally) and that they are not fighting some kind of inner beast, hunger or anything... seriously, you've taken away their damnation and turned them into another faceless race of people who are not fighting off insanity, their lust or anything.

May I add that while vampires can sustain themselves on none human blood it doesn't satify them... all literature supports that they only like human blood, everything simply allows them to live... but increases their hunger for the real food.

Your disneyland idea of vampires is meant to be a very rare case of vampirism where only a small number of vampires like yourself fight their real nature and instead live a depressing anst filled self hate... or at least something like it.

If this continues, I will no longer concider Kain your agruments at all... your idea of vampires is just completely against anything I've read, and I've read a fair bit... though I don't wear the black clothes or listen to the music or wear fangs... I just like some of the really good books and films that have been made on the subject...

I don't mind this whole "rasism" thing, but this is getting to the point of stupidity... vampires are not normal humans with a stronger muscles, unlimited life span and a alergy to light... they are something which craves human blood, sometimes to the point where they have to "fight the beast within" or "fight the craving" they are like addicts... sometimes they hold on to what little humanity that is left but after a couple hundred years this fades... sometimes they last longer, sometimes they don't even try... but they they will lose it eventually.

I think I'll ask you to look into what angelus has said, because while she is arrogant and at times self rightous and rude... she has RPed with vampires and the mentally for long enough to know something about how it's done...


Yes, this is freeform roleplay... but this is becoming something like RPing elves as miners who live underground... its not in their character and it goes against what everyone thinks about them... and so do your vampires.

OOC: Amen, Brutha!
Assington
30-11-2003, 07:30
Assington has a 10% vampiric population.

Details are still been worked out but they are officially accept as equal citezens of Assington.
Steel Butterfly
30-11-2003, 07:37
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-So sayeth Seymour, Meister of Yevon in Daggoth

Oh lord :lol:

Have you beaten the game?
Roania
30-11-2003, 07:47
We would be honored to take these vampires from our honored ally, Assington. The Prince has authorised me to pay you 300 dollars per vampire.

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Senior Cardinal within Roania
Member of Electoral College
Minister for Theocratic matters


Is your brother sure this is a good idea, Calin?

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Lady Karolyn Von Klyne
CEO of Roania Pharmaceuticals
Sigma Octavus
30-11-2003, 07:48
If you deport them, do not send them to Roania. They'll just be killed. Damned Inquisitors.

(Yep, still sore about them.)
Assington
30-11-2003, 07:50
Calin sighed.

"I don't know about this.... But Calis seems to think he can make it work. Of course it is going to involve upgrading the police with anti-vampiric weapons as well."
____________________

The President declines Roania's kind offer. He has no wish to rid Assington of it's vampiric citezens.
Wazzu
30-11-2003, 08:39
OOC: I'm seriously thinking of Ignoring this... I mean, I don't think I know of any literature which would support the idea that vampires are completely normal (mentally) and that they are not fighting some kind of inner beast, hunger or anything... seriously, you've taken away their damnation and turned them into another faceless race of people who are not fighting off insanity, their lust or anything.

May I add that while vampires can sustain themselves on none human blood it doesn't satify them... all literature supports that they only like human blood, everything simply allows them to live... but increases their hunger for the real food.

Your disneyland idea of vampires is meant to be a very rare case of vampirism where only a small number of vampires like yourself fight their real nature and instead live a depressing anst filled self hate... or at least something like it.

If this continues, I will no longer concider Kain your agruments at all... your idea of vampires is just completely against anything I've read, and I've read a fair bit... though I don't wear the black clothes or listen to the music or wear fangs... I just like some of the really good books and films that have been made on the subject...

I don't mind this whole "rasism" thing, but this is getting to the point of stupidity... vampires are not normal humans with a stronger muscles, unlimited life span and a alergy to light... they are something which craves human blood, sometimes to the point where they have to "fight the beast within" or "fight the craving" they are like addicts... sometimes they hold on to what little humanity that is left but after a couple hundred years this fades... sometimes they last longer, sometimes they don't even try... but they they will lose it eventually.

I think I'll ask you to look into what angelus has said, because while she is arrogant and at times self rightous and rude... she has RPed with vampires and the mentally for long enough to know something about how it's done...


Yes, this is freeform roleplay... but this is becoming something like RPing elves as miners who live underground... its not in their character and it goes against what everyone thinks about them... and so do your vampires.

OOC: Amen, Brutha!

OOC: Or you can just do what I do, have many/most of your characters simply believe these are lies.

It doesn't matter how another player portrays their characters or population, you portray your own. You get to choose what your characters/population think of the other.

And if an ageless, undead, superstrong, bloodsucking canabal walked up to you and said, "I'm being mistreated, racial prejiduce, I'm really a nice guy!", what would you honestly believe?

Or how about if some guy off the street knocked on your door, showed you medical doccuments, and said, "look, it is a scientific fact. I need to drink your blood and the blood of your children to survive.", what would you think?

Could you ever really trust an lifeless (yes, they are undead, not living) walking corpse with an instinct for violent and gory murder? Would you really disbelieve every major and minor religion in the world's history that vampires are evil demons?

Rave Shentivo and Kain Irenicus can cry and pout and scream "RACISM!" all they want, but when it comes down to it, there is a reason people hate vampires. Actually, there are many. And as much as they try and cover up their reality, we all really know better, don't we?

Or at least, thats how I RP it. That gets around the problem of IF vampires are really good, evil, or just OK not-so-average guys. The Vampires say they are, so many others say they aren't. Reality doesn't matter, only perception.

</rant>

IC:

We at Wazzu Lifeworks would like to convince the Assington government to open it's drug policies to our Vampirism Vaccine.

The vaccine has been on the market for well over a century and varients have been proven for humans, elves/eldar, and drarves against all known varients of vampirism. It is not only safe, but extremely effective.

As normal vaccines were found not to work, Lifeworks' vaccine instead makes the body extremely allergic to vampirism. Normal contact won't bother the vaccinated person, but bites will causes some mild sickness.

The allergic reaction caused by a byte will kill vampirism infected cells before they can spread their disease, thereby protecting the bitten victem. The vampire however experiances pain in drinking the blood, as the victem's blood attacks the vampire inside.

Should a vampire stop drinking immediately, it experiances only mild and short-term side effects. Those who drink a bit more may experiance bloating, constipation or diarreha, heartburn, stomache ache and wretching, cough, redeye, fever, and a host of other symptoms. Those who drink large amounts may enter a coma or die.

This takes care of a few things.
1: Vampires who break laws and byte vaccinated victems immediately pay for it, while those who don't are unaffected.
2: Vampires who attempt to kill the victem may well die themselves.
3: Victems are not turned into vampires against their will.
4: The living population, even those without the vaccine, feel safer knowing that criminal vampires don't last long. This cools down tensions in your nation.

As stated above, the vaccine is completely safe for humans, elves, and dwarves getting vaccinated. And as the vaccine only develops an allergy, the vast majority (98%) of vampires who get the vaccine accidentally are not adversely affected.

So, have we convinced you to let us import?

-Lifeworks Ad. Dept.
The Underground City
30-11-2003, 08:42
OOC: The fact of the matter is that by considering vampires as a group, and not as individuals, it is racism. You can call it positive racism and support it, but you cannot say it isn't racism.
Roania
30-11-2003, 08:58
Calin sighed.

"I don't know about this.... But Calis seems to think he can make it work. Of course it is going to involve upgrading the police with anti-vampiric weapons as well."
____________________

The President declines Roania's kind offer. He has no wish to rid Assington of it's vampiric citezens.

"For our sake..." Karolyn smiled. "Nice way to distract the news from us, though, love." She kissed him.

__________________

We think you may be making a mistake...

OOC: TUC, Cry me a river, liberal.
Wazzu
30-11-2003, 08:59
OOC: The fact of the matter is that by considering vampires as a group, and not as individuals, it is racism. You can call it positive racism and support it, but you cannot say it isn't racism.

OOC: So then saying that all aids victems have immune problems is racism?

Being scared of those with bioengineered and extremely contagious anthrax is racism?

Vampirism isn't a race, it is a disease that literally kills and revives a person. It is a disease that instils a preditory instinct, a lust to drink the blood of sentients usually leading to their deaths. It is a disease many say isn't natural, but demonic posession...and in the world of NS, where demons DO exist, they may be right!

Of course, vampires might be harmless kittens bound behind ultrastrong bodies who are better then everyone else at everything (super genius ninja psychic magic dragon god vampires...or even just vampires without any of the vulnerabilities) but hampered by rampant racism. But how do people know that? Certainly I wouldn't believe it.

Call me racist if you want, but I just think I'm not stupid enough to believe dead bloodsucking canabal preditors are really just nice guys.
The Underground City
30-11-2003, 09:02
OOC: TUC, Cry me a river, liberal.

OOC:
Actually my statement gave no political views :? It was just an explanation of terminology.

Also, don't flame me.
Roania
30-11-2003, 09:04
OOC: TUC, Cry me a river, liberal.

OOC:
Actually my statement gave no political views :? It was just an explanation of terminology.

Also, don't flame me.

A) I didn't flame you
B) Only a liberal could defend vampires
C)... if you think that was flaming, god help you when you set foot in the General forum.
Wazzu
30-11-2003, 09:06
OOC: TUC, Cry me a river, liberal.

OOC:
Actually my statement gave no political views :? It was just an explanation of terminology.

Also, don't flame me.

OOC: The termonology is incorrect, vampirism is not a race, it is a disease.

You don't "catch black" or "come down with white." When an asian bites you, you don't turn into one. (Not that any of these are really "races" in taxonomy terms).

Now, is it prejiduce(sp?) against the "sick"? Yes. But not unwarrented.
30-11-2003, 10:00
Yurka feels that religion has been wrong countless times before, so why not now? The fact is, not all those infected with vampirism are insane, blood-drinking, murderers. They are still sentient, and bloodlust is not only common to vampires. :twisted:

Simply put, vampires are a type of being, like any other, which can be used by society and the government, just plant a small explosive at the bottom of their skull, that should keep them in line.
Assington
30-11-2003, 10:53
Calin returned the kiss.

"That is true. And I'm sure Calis knows what he is doing."
________________

Wazzu...... Assington would like to by either a large amount of the vaccine or production rights.
________________

The President sees many advantages in having a vampiric population and shall not be lowered to petty prejudice.
30-11-2003, 12:42
What is prejudice? Prejudice is:

preconceived judgment or opinion (2) : an adverse opinion or leaning formed without just grounds or before sufficient knowledge b : an instance of such judgment or opinion c : an irrational attitude of hostility directed against an individual, a group, a race, or their supposed characteristics

Upon this definition, seeing a disease (to which vampirism isn't, to say this would imply that it had no positive aspects, but for this arguement it shall be treated as such) and acting upon it is not prejudice as you are taking into account the needs of the patient. Also, due to the life changing aspects of becoming a vampire, society needs to change in accordance to those people's needs in accordance to thier number. Disabled people within wheelchairs need to be considered when designing a shop etc. This applies more so, sue to the social, phychological and physical aspects.

Vampires are individuals yes, but those individuals with vampirism have common needs, so we must act in accordance. Each vampire has freewill, it is not removed from us. It is simply that the choice to many vampires is "kill or die". Now, let us make more choices for these people, so that those coming to terms with this change can become positive aspects to everyone in society.

Kain Irenicus
The Flame Drake Zoltan
30-11-2003, 14:15
[It doesn't matter how another player portrays their characters or population, you portray your own. You get to choose what your characters/population think of the other.

And if an ageless, undead, superstrong, bloodsucking canabal walked up to you and said, "I'm being mistreated, racial prejiduce, I'm really a nice guy!", what would you honestly believe?

</rant>

OOC: Fair enough, I just get tired of him spreading the idea that vampires are just normal humans with a a dislike of light and can live for ever...

To be honest, I was thinking of doing what you said, but then I end up having to put up with the vampire lobby getting all whiny about it. Hell, it would be nice to see some of these people RP the age of their vampires becuase even a immortal human gets a little mad after a few hundred years of being alive... watching his friends die, getting bored and losing touch with the latest advancements... vampires have so many dimensions to RP and yet most of these RPers seems to ignore the fun parts of it.

Even your vampire clutching on to humanity have to fight their instincts and craving... I don't care for synthetic blood and the such, it's no substitute for the real thing... because the real thing has the human attached and the emotion and the smell... it's also the hunt, not just the food.


But, with all this said, you're right of course. I should just RP my nation thinking of them more as a bunch of vampires trying to masquarade as nice being to make the world accept their damned existance.

But we see through their corrupt lies...

*ahem* anyways, this nation is not mine as such, I'm the guy who runs it but a friend of mine gives me the plot he wants RPed and I write it for him because he's new at this. The reason he wanted vampires killed in his nation was because the Red Dragon ruling it didn't want competition...

I won't retract my rant, becuase I still feel it is relevant, but I will not ignore what I feel is a bad portrayal of character.

Edited to add: We don't care about "Prejudice" in this nation, the Dragon oppresses everyone anyways, it's just that the government (the real runners of the nation) cover this up... your calls of "racism" will go unheard there.
30-11-2003, 15:13
OOC: The fact of the matter is that by considering vampires as a group, and not as individuals, it is racism. You can call it positive racism and support it, but you cannot say it isn't racism.

OOC: So then saying that all aids victems have immune problems is racism?



OOC: I said it due to this.
Wazzu
30-11-2003, 21:00
Wazzu Lifeworks would be happy to sell directly to the Assington government, import directly to the people, corporations, and other entities, or give production rights to any company or government willing to pay 20% of profits back to Lifeworks and who agrees to keep the production method secret.

-Lifeworks Sales Dept.

What is prejudice? Prejudice is:

preconceived judgment or opinion (2) : an adverse opinion or leaning formed without just grounds or before sufficient knowledge b : an instance of such judgment or opinion c : an irrational attitude of hostility directed against an individual, a group, a race, or their supposed characteristics

Upon this definition, seeing a disease (to which vampirism isn't, to say this would imply that it had no positive aspects, but for this arguement it shall be treated as such) and acting upon it is not prejudice as you are taking into account the needs of the patient. Also, due to the life changing aspects of becoming a vampire, society needs to change in accordance to those people's needs in accordance to thier number. Disabled people within wheelchairs need to be considered when designing a shop etc. This applies more so, sue to the social, phychological and physical aspects.

Vampires are individuals yes, but those individuals with vampirism have common needs, so we must act in accordance. Each vampire has freewill, it is not removed from us. It is simply that the choice to many vampires is "kill or die". Now, let us make more choices for these people, so that those coming to terms with this change can become positive aspects to everyone in society.

Kain Irenicus

Ahh, but vampirism is a disease. Vampires are made. We do not "catch black", "come down with white", or become an asian when one bites us, but we do catch vampirism.

Like any contagious disease, vampirism spreads expidentially. Each vampire can bite many other victems, potentially turning them into vampires as well. But vampirism is something more, it is more advanced then even the uncommon virus.

Vampirism is a fluke of nature, an evolved disease. Instead of killing its host, it makes it better able to spread the infection. Thus, vampires have increased violent instincts, exceptional strength, extremely long life, and other "powers" to help them distribute their plague.

Not every disease is perfect, not even an evolved one such as vampirism, so it is not unexpected that a pestilance that provides such powers also has limits, vulnerabilities...but all these vulnerabilities are limited.

So what is vampirism but an evolved disease, and what are vampires but those infected and changed to spread the disease further.

For those who still believe fearing vampires is racism, let me ask you this. If a disease was known to turn people into savage monsters that must eat human flesh to survive, would you fear it? So then why fear less the same disease that also makes the monster nearly indistinguishable from ourselves, and gives it intelligence enough to trick us?

Vampirism is an incurable infection and constant threat. Those who claim otherwise are either brainwashed or those who seek to spread their malady. It must be eradicated from existance. We must make this epidemic extinct.

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Assington
01-12-2003, 03:49
Wazzu Lifeworks would be happy to sell directly to the Assington government, import directly to the people, corporations, and other entities, or give production rights to any company or government willing to pay 20% of profits back to Lifeworks and who agrees to keep the production method secret.

That seems fair enough. Perhaps the Assington division of Roania Pharmecuticals would be interested in buying it. If not, the government will directly buy it.
01-12-2003, 11:45
You are all missing the point, vampires hold the key to immortality, if you merely destroy them without finding out what makes vampires stop decaying and retain most of their sentience, then the secret will be lost forever. Vampirism may be a desease, but the positive aspects far outweigh the cons. 8)
imported_Celeborne
01-12-2003, 11:58
We would be happy to send over the Brotherhood of Vanhelsing to help with your pest problem.
Assington
01-12-2003, 12:01
I thought I had made things clear.

Assington does not want to kill off its vampiric population. They're staying! :P
Assington
01-12-2003, 12:05
OOC: My main reason for this was to open the way for a few vampire characters for RP'ing. 8)
01-12-2003, 12:07
I thought I had made things clear.

Assington does not want to kill off its vampiric population. They're staying! :P

We suggest you attach some body heaters to them or something, to prevent them from being spotted due to body heat, or should i say lack of it?
Iuthia
01-12-2003, 12:32
OOC: Why do you think I allow vampires in Iuthia? (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=79301&highlight=)

They are pretty fun overall, especially when you do your true blue evil vampire like those in the Sabbat... even the Camarilla are far from good, they just use human resources to do what the Sabbat like to do themselves.

That said, you don't need body heaters to allow vampires to look human, they can use their ill gotten blood to do the same, by that I mean they can be warm like humans and breath (or pretend)... though it only lasts for a while (maybe an hour?) and it costs as much blood as they use up in a day to do this, on top of what they use to keep themselves going... plus it costs more if your vampire is not very close to humanity.

This is of course, WoD rules... they don't have to apply, but they make a good guideline.
Assington
01-12-2003, 12:32
Why?
Iuthia
01-12-2003, 12:36
Why?

:roll: :D OOC: Link, silly! Of course, we allow them so I can have my own vampire characters… and so I can RP with people like Rave without bombing her nation.

Vampires are cold... or at least they take the same temperature as the room they are in with time because they don't produce their own heat. so on a cold day you could find them using a heat sensitive camera thingy....
Assington
01-12-2003, 12:42
I was aware of vampiric body heat issues.

But I don't see how that concerns me. I'm not trying to hide the vamps.....
Iuthia
01-12-2003, 12:45
I was aware of vampiric body heat issues.

But I don't see how that concerns me. I'm not trying to hide the vamps.....

Fair enough, it was a blanket explanation.
01-12-2003, 12:45
I was aware of vampiric body heat issues.

But I don't see how that concerns me. I'm not trying to hide the vamps.....

Yes, but be aware that certain nations have a tendency to send vampire hunters to countries such as yours.
imported_Celeborne
01-12-2003, 12:46
we never do, without permission.
01-12-2003, 12:48
we never do, without permission.
Well you also need to be aware of stray vampires who think it is their religious duty to kill vampires.
Iuthia
01-12-2003, 12:48
including mine... (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=83886&highlight=) :(

OOC: But I allowed it...
imported_Celeborne
01-12-2003, 12:51
Just be sure that none of them decide to go sight seeing in Celeborne, I could not vouch for thier saftey here....
Iuthia
01-12-2003, 12:53
Just be sure that none of them decide to go sight seeing in Celeborne, I could not vouch for thier saftey here....

OOC: I don't know, I think a CO-RP could be fun sometime... but that will have to wait becuase I've got to much in the way of plots at the moment... and I don't really want to do any of them... I'm better at the ideas then anything else...
imported_Celeborne
01-12-2003, 12:54
OOC: If you want to do a co-rp sometime , let me know. Could be fun to have a vampire show up...
Assington
01-12-2003, 12:56
The military and police are in the process of upgrading equipment to better deal with vampires. We shall also make it known to our vampiric citezens that it is not safe for them in certain nations of the world.
Iuthia
01-12-2003, 12:59
OOC: If you want to do a co-rp sometime , let me know. Could be fun to have a vampire show up...

OOC: Or maybe the otherway around... you know how the Sabbat play dirty against the Camarilla? They break the masquerade and they actively help vampire hunters to find vampires... Cararilla vampires... it's why they don't object to Kain, he's helping them by exposing vampires to the world and breeding the kind of hate they direct at the vampires they want you to find...

Of course, I'm sure I can cook something up... though like I said, I've got alot of current plots I need to tie up... so I'll look into it when I've got more time. [/Hyjack]
01-12-2003, 17:09
I am not disputing that vampirism is a disease, it is simply that I dislike using the word as it implies that vampirism has no positive aspects. So yes it is a disease, but with positive aspects to it.
01-12-2003, 18:16
I am not disputing that vampirism is a disease, it is simply that I dislike using the word as it implies that vampirism has no positive aspects. So yes it is a disease, but with positive aspects to it.

I don't usually call it a disease, but it has alot of negative aspects, but it dulls emotions eventually, causes instability, and gives them a few noticable vulnerabilities. Most people don't burst into flames when they step into sunlight. 8)
Assington
03-12-2003, 07:58
Anyway, it is now official.

Any vampires that were originally born (as humans) in Assington are official citezens. They have equal rights and are equally answerable to the law. The law enforcemen forces are equipped to handle such criminals and programs are been set up for feeding, education, and employment. All vampires must be registered, just as ordinary citezens are.

The murder of any Asstonian vampires within our borders will be treated as a murder and shall result in death for the culprit.