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Ambassador Jade Purrlinda
The Free Land of Slagkattungerhttp://www.nationstates.net/images/un_member.gif
Politics is war without bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed.
Email:- Slagkattunger@hotmail.com
Slagkattunger Nation Profile (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=78165)
My Nations GDP (http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=Slagkattunger)
Covered by DRI (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=83705)

"We are currently working on expanding our spheres of influence to below the waves, the following are unit is in the final design phase of development."

ooc:- the stuff in purple is classified amd cannot be used IC wise against me until I reveal them in an IC fashion.

Research Submarine
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Cost to build: - $15 Billion Union Paws
Operating Depth: -1500 meters (1.5 km)
Crew: - 24 Officers, 340 Sailors
Passengers: - 220 Researchers, 50 Marines
Length: - 512 m
Beam: - 124
Height Overall: - 120
Power System: - Plasma Power plant (developed by Resi Corporation)
Maximum Surface Speed: - 25 knots
Cruising Surface Speed: - 20 knots
Max. Submerged Speed: - 15 knots
Endurance: -
Submerged Endurance 2 1/2 years
Life Support: -
Mission Life Support: - Effectively unlimited.
Emergency Life Support: - 168 hours
Weapons
Carries 24 Modified Robotic Drone Missiles
Notes
Officers and Researchers have private cabins, while sailors and marines have 2 to a cabin.
There are several recreation facilities abord with a large main gym being a social gathering point on movie nights. Most of the time it provides that needed space for personnel when off duty.
Carries 2 Explorer Class Subs and 4 Mini Subs near the bow.
There are clusters of 5 person escape pods scattered through the ship near major gathering points. These escape pods rapidly move away from the Sub and then slowly to the surface to avoid giving the "Bends" to the personnel inside them.

Cool pics. DoGA r0xx0rs!

Any suggestions on the stats to show for the Sub?

(Thats DoGA lv 3 for ya :P )

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Aqua Nation Atlantica (http://mysite.freeserve.com/totalrandom/AquaNationAtlantica.html)

AH, excellent designs, further to our previous inroads into possible development of Sub Sea Drone Technology, we tender the Specifications for the Cowrie Drone.
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This is utilized in pairs by the Scout Subfighter:-
Tope Class Subfighter (http://mysite.freeserve.com/totalrandom/Tope.jpg)

Specs for the Cowrie Drone:

Weight :- 18.3 kilos
Length :- 1.3 meters
Height :- 0.7 meters
Speed :- 50 knots
Max Depth :- 3500 meters

Power Source:- Fuel Cells using a high spectrum hydrogen gel as fuel, running time Aprox, 32 hours

Motive Systems, :- Primary drives bank of 3 rear mounted MHD turbines
Secondary 4 gimball mounted MHD turbine thrusters
(Note:- Special baffling incorperated into the MHD drives allow for near silent running, this does cut speed by half and doubles fuel use)

Computer systems:- the Cowrie has a high range, virtual AI using fuzzy logic for problem solving capabilities. Main programing revolves around Drone Control, navigation and Sensor systems, with a sizeable amount of processing power controling the drones movenets so it behaves in the manner of a large fish or other biological creature.

Sensor Systems:
A.S.P. (Advanced Sensor Package)
(This uses full I.R, U.V., X-Ray combined with a Blue/Green Lidar.)

Radio / Radar analyzer, this tracks radio waves and radar back to its source.

a X32 resolution intesifier for the surface sensors


Other systems,:
Contains a 1 shot damage control package that has mask and Osmatic Membrane breather good for 1 person, hull sealant foam good for punctures up to 1 foot across.

Notes:- usually the Cowrie is controlled from its dedicated scout platform up to a range of 3 kilometers, however the AI gives it full autonomity up to the life of its onboard power systems.

ooc:- Not bad, not bad at all. Can you provide suggestions on the size of the research sub? I was thinking battleship/ aircraft size as it's suppose to look like a non hostile sub (and most of the time it is :) ) plus to support the research staff (of cource as design partner ANA you get a copy of the design to modify as you see fit).

Oh well I gotta log of now...will be back on latter today.

((OOC: Cheers! you should see the Other ANA stuff!
as to size, if its a full research sub.. with full labs quarentine areas and such.. Id go for something a little smaller than an Aircraft carrier! maybe Heavy Cruiser sized,
Something with a displacement of up to 10.000 tons,
and a compliment of about 300 - 400 crew with a compliment of 150 - 200 research staff)))

er.. *bump*

OOC: Nice... But where'd ye hear that quote? *patpats his Random Quote IRC thingie*

((OOC: Cheers! you should see the Other ANA stuff!
as to size, if its a full research sub.. with full labs quarentine areas and such.. Id go for something a little smaller than an Aircraft carrier! maybe Heavy Cruiser sized,
Something with a displacement of up to 10.000 tons,
and a compliment of about 300 - 400 crew with a compliment of 150 - 200 research staff)))

ooc:- Had a look at the US navy stats on cruisers & ballistic subs.......they are about the same size, and this sub is much bigger than a ballistic sub. As mention before it's mainly a research sub so I'm going for a size of about double a ballistic sub to include all the niffty features. Don't worry about displacement.....people don't worry about weight when they RP (unless you can provide a reason for it to be included :?: )

Question what depth is your lowest city/ town?

((OOC: Ah right, well just double up on those sizes and allocate a chunk of the personel to reasearch. if you look at Ballistic Missiles Subs, once you take out the Missile tubes, thats alot of room for labs and things..

Deepest Town?? lets see.. well deepest standard civ town that is known about is Ridgeton, its pretty much dedicated to supporting the Deep Sea Miners. Aprox. Depth, 2000 meters, may i ask why?)))

This is all OOC:-

1) I gotta work out the deepest it can dive.......

2) Being big it's not that fast...whats a good Max speed for surface travel & under water travel ?

3) While officially not having weapons I'm including Slagkattunger Drone Missile, a weapon design to intercept ICBM & large aircrafts (I would use it on smaller aircraft but the SAM systems can handle those), this would provide a further range for intercepting hostile ICBM simply by having the sub "researching" between my nation & their known ICBM launching sites.

4) How long do you want this thing to stay underwater? I was thinking at least a week....although I haven't a clue how long a ballistic sub can stay under.

All OOC as well

Okay.. well, the majority of my vessels have a depth limit of 2000 meters, but they are all from a Aquatic Specialised culture.., but 2000 meters is pretty deep.

A Russian Attack sub can attain 40 knots speed, so something that big id say 25 - 30 knots?

Subroc missiles systems? heh, talk to my development staff,.

As to tim under water, pretty considerable if your powerplant is Nuclear or something like that, with enough continous energy you can have water distilation plants that give fresh water, and the electricity provided can seperate oxygen from the surrounding water, so your pretty much only limitted by the stores carried on board..
I hear the Big Russian Typhoon Class Missile Subs can stay submerged for up to two years if they want.

Okay.. well, the majority of my vessels have a depth limit of 2000 meters, but they are all from a Aquatic Specialised culture.., but 2000 meters is pretty deep.

Is 1500 meters (1.5 km) ok with you then?

A Russian Attack sub can attain 40 knots speed, so something that big id say 25 - 30 knots?

Ah as it isn't an attack sub lets say 20 knots Max.

As to time under water, pretty considerable if your powerplant is Nuclear or something like that, with enough continous energy you can have water distilation plants that give fresh water, and the electricity provided can seperate oxygen from the surrounding water, so your pretty much only limitted by the stores carried on board..
I hear the Big Russian Typhoon Class Missile Subs can stay submerged for up to two years if they want.

I use Plasma Power plants......developed by Resi Corporation so I say it would be limited to stores then.........hmmmm since it's a research sub scientist would hate to stop their underwater research I say 2 1/2 years max would be a good length of time.

Sound ok to you? if so I'll update the stats.

OOC:

Sure! its fine with me, if its a research sub that kind of depth would be ideal.

20 knots sounds fair!

Hmm.. most of my big subs use Toiroid Cold Fusion reactors, and they have no probs..
yeah, 2 1/2 years sounds fair! but you'd better dedicate a lot of space to recreational facilities as well as 'personal space' areas.. Cabin Fever can be a killer!

OOC:

Sure! its fine with me, if its a research sub that kind of depth would be ideal.

20 knots sounds fair!

Hmm.. most of my big subs use Toiroid Cold Fusion reactors, and they have no probs..
yeah, 2 1/2 years sounds fair! but you'd better dedicate a lot of space to recreational facilities as well as 'personal space' areas.. Cabin Fever can be a killer!

On something that big........I thought private cabins & recreation facilities would be a given, ok I'll put it in the notes.

OOC:
You'll need at least one big 'space' prefferably a garden i think.. from what i hear that cuts down a lot on crowding problems, hope thats helped a little.

OOC:
You'll need at least one big 'space' prefferably a garden i think.. from what i hear that cuts down a lot on crowding problems, hope thats helped a little.

A garden would be impractical........I'll make it a Gym.

OOC: Ok! a gym it is!, of course virtual reality would help a lot in this situation.. hmm.. *goes back to some ANA sub drawing boards*

Stats updated.....should I provide it with 2 mini subs?

OOC: ok.. if you mean the scout drones, they are only about the size of your average man, and the amount of them you could get into your sub are phenominal.. if you mean seperate sbs, like most modern ships have their own Tender boats, then yes! it would save on trying to park that monstrosity every time it had to offload or load personel or equipment. you might also think about having a deep gonig exploration sub if its a reasearch vessel.

OOC: ok.. if you mean the scout drones, they are only about the size of your average man, and the amount of them you could get into your sub are phenominal.. if you mean seperate sbs, like most modern ships have their own Tender boats, then yes! it would save on trying to park that monstrosity every time it had to offload or load personel or equipment. you might also think about having a deep gonig exploration sub if its a reasearch vessel.

Not the little ones (although you can put them abord yours).

Not Tender boats but Mini Subs as in exploration subs, so I'll have 2 of them then. Sub to shore is usally done by inflatable ruber dingies, that way they can be eaisly stored.

Docking one of thes isn't as difficult as docking an aircraft carrier.

OOC: that things bigger than an aircracft carrier! thats scary..

ok.. as to the exploration subs id say yeah.. and for something that size 3 explorer subs and maybe a couple of bigger ones.

ooc:- It's just a little bigger than some oil tankers.....but it's got to be able to stay under for a while. Ok upsizing it to 2 Explorer class & 4 mini subs.

I kept seeing 1000 + for oil tankers then I used a conversion thing to change it into meters :roll: typical americans trying to make something sound big by using smaller measurements :P <===fustrated metric system user after looking at american sites.

OOC: :shock: its half again longer than a Nimitz Class Aircraft Carrier!!

yup. .that sounds about right for exploration vessels.

as to Metric thats what I was thiking when i say your stats for it..
ahh.. 500 feet, not to bad.. i was a little shocked to see its in meters!

as to parking, manouvering is not your issue, its finding a dog that can take something that size!!

OOC: for something that size you might want to at least double the crew compliment..

sorry to say but it is in meters......as to crew size...well Slakattunger goes heavily for automation & AI's for our systems.

As to docking...we will have docks built to handle these (I see my nation having at Max 5 of them)

Oh ya as to cost....hows 10 billion sound? too low?

OOC: Yeah, thats big.. s to automation, similiar goes for ANA vessels,, so what you gonig to do with al lthat space??

Specialized docks, thats ok!! but if they need specialized docks, I would recomend having at least a couple of solid sub or boat cutters for ship to shore work, it wouldn't do pulling up at a forign port that cant handle something of that size and have to ferry supplies, personnel and diplomats back and forth in rubber dingies..

price wize, a Modern nuclear aircraft carrier is about 4 billion, so Id say thats good ballpark figure.. maybe 8-9 billion sounds better.

OOC: Yeah, thats big.. s to automation, similiar goes for ANA vessels,, so what you gonig to do with al lthat space??

What space? after all the necessary equipment (Like ballest chambers), cabins for nearly 1000 people, recreational areas, stores and research chambers there isn't much left over.

Specialized docks, thats ok!! but if they need specialized docks, I would recomend having at least a couple of solid sub or boat cutters for ship to shore work, it wouldn't do pulling up at a forign port that cant handle something of that size and have to ferry supplies, personnel and diplomats back and forth in rubber dingies..

Pulling into foreign ports? Now why would they do that.......if they had to pull into said ports I would suspect that they (the port) would provide them, just like they do for aircraft carriers etc now days.

price wize, a Modern nuclear aircraft carrier is about 4 billion, so Id say thats good ballpark figure.. maybe 8-9 billion sounds better.

I'm going to make it $15 Billion to represent the investment needed to build these things...and sell them at $35 billion just to stop people going can I buy that huh? huh? oh come on plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!

OOc: Well all i can say is its going to be a really comfotrtable sub! and I bet places onboard for crew are hotly contested!

Well you never know what kind of emergency might crop up..
a couple of hard body boats are not gonig to take much room at all.

speaking of emergencies.. what about Crew escape systems?

As to price, Id go with your estimate on revision, since they do carry a lot of specialised equipment.

OOc: Well all i can say is its going to be a really comfotrtable sub! and I bet places onboard for crew are hotly contested!

Thats a good thing as it would reduce tensions.

Well you never know what kind of emergency might crop up..
a couple of hard body boats are not gonig to take much room at all.

How would you deploy them? no they could use the mini subs as boats if they needed them.

speaking of emergencies.. what about Crew escape systems?

A valid question, I always assume safety & hygine is always included in all my designs.

OOC: Ah, so the Larger Mini Subs can double as cutters? that makes sense then.

Id say clusters of 5 man escape pods scattered through the ship..

Updated the Subs stats.

Sub stats are now open to public opinion & helpful suggestions.

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*bump*

Starting the development of space drone stats soon.

Edit Canceled due to new ideas on space warfare.