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Throughout the times of Russian Forces many nations have feared that Russian Forces will try to conquer all Post Soviet Nations to rebuild its once old and powerful empire. Many wars did happen during these times and some world wars did concentrate in Eastern Europe. Now many are keeping their eye on Russia fearing it might try to take Eastern Europe and press on to bring communism around the world. Well is that true? Vladimir Putin claims Russian Forces wishes not to even expand and the reason why Russia rigged elections in Eastern Europe during the late 1940's was so that nothing like the invasion of Russia would happen again or just because of people like Stalin wanting to conquer. "It was mere paranoia and greed from people like Stalin" Putin said. "We will never do this again" he claims.

A poll has begun to see peoples opinion on this matter.

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Is this possible?

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RF is known for its wars.

your decision?

OOC: There is only one major problem. Throughout its long history, the only times Russia made a conquest of a truly foriegn nation were Poland and Finland. For most of its history, its armies marched east, not west. WW2, the Russians invaded the 3rd Reich, and forgot to leave at the end. Only time.

Also, I've always thought Putin would declare himself Tzar, not Premier.

OOC: There is only one major problem. Throughout its long history, the only times Russia made a conquest of a truly foriegn nation were Poland and Finland. For most of its history, its armies marched east, not west. WW2, the Russians invaded the 3rd Reich, and forgot to leave at the end. Only time.

Also, I've always thought Putin would declare himself Tzar, not Premier.

OOC:Obviously you didn't look much into Russian Forces history. Its a Communist nation now. But i do agree Putin would one day think of himself as Tzar :). But im not really mentioning history but mostly the history of RF and combining it with RL history.

OOC: Well, in that case, "Go west, young Putin! For, we lie to the east! And we are very happy the way we are!"

OOC: There is only one major problem. Throughout its long history, the only times Russia made a conquest of a truly foriegn nation were Poland and Finland. For most of its history, its armies marched east, not west. WW2, the Russians invaded the 3rd Reich, and forgot to leave at the end. Only time.

Also, I've always thought Putin would declare himself Tzar, not Premier.
Wait- What in the blazes are you trying to say here? Russia's former Easter holdings were not a true Empire? How were Georgia and Uzbekistan any less 'foriegn' to Russia than Poland was? :roll:

As for what Putin would declare himself: he'd pick whatever was in fashion. While the Russians are getting all teary-eyed for the 'good old' Tsarist days, there are many folks who were actually alive during communism, and Russia is certainly worse off now than it was then.

Wait- What in the blazes are you trying to say here? Russia's former Easter holdings were not a true Empire? How were Georgia and Uzbekistan any less 'foriegn' to Russia than Poland was? :roll:

As for what Putin would declare himself: he'd pick whatever was in fashion. While the Russians are getting all teary-eyed for the 'good old' Tsarist days, there are many folks who were actually alive during communism, and Russia is certainly worse off now than it was then.

Because Georgia's culture and Russia's culture were incredibly similar, and Uzbekistan was taken by the Russians very soon after the mongols left.

[quote=Free Outer Eugenia]Because Georgia's culture and Russia's culture were incredibly similar, and Uzbekistan was taken by the Russians very soon after the mongols left.Thats nonsense. The current similarity is a result of a long Russification campaign.

..And the Swedish empire was no laughing-stock :?

But what about Russian Forces? Do you trust us?

The Dr_Twist Government would have to go through what is planned 1st to Decided on what is going to happen if it does. But the Dr_Twist Government probley wont be impressed if RF decided to Turn Europe into a big Communist Block.

How into Europe would the block go?

The conquest on europe is NOT possible, as i have said before. Polan will NOT be taken over.

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Ministry of Foreign Affairs

The Government of Belarus expresses consern at the advancements of the RF and there claims against our teritories. While the Russians have never acted upon there belief that Belarus is there territory we are still concered by this.

WE ARE A SOVERIGN AND INDEPENDANT NATION!!!

My govenrment is striving for a close working relationship with Russia. We invite them to attend the Minsk International Summit.

For details on the summit please go to the Latest News section of our UN websire http://www.belarus-un.cjb.net

This invitation is open to all nations.

A full policy statement will be added to our website ( http://www.belarus-un.cjb.net ) soon.

Sincerely,

Tatyanan Ruskovich
Foreign Minister
Commonwealth of Belarussian States

"Trust YOU? If people trust you, they may as well trust Al-Quaida."

At this moment in time no evidence is available to suggest that the RF is a threat to our nation. However the future is forever changing and so we shall remain neutral on all matters involving the RF and other parties, that do not generate cause for interest.

Tom Joad Foreign Commissary

We are a peaceful Scandinavian republic with nearly a billion people. Don't hurt us or else. :twisted:

RF,

Why did you invade me causing me to quit NationStates the first time I played it? I was not a GDODAD member, just an ally of Drum Gods.

Best Regards,
The Resurrected Lands of Nanakaland

Nanakaland im sure i did not invade you. If it did happen i did not force you to leave. When i win a war i expect no nation to be destroyed or a puppet but just to be regime friendly to RF.

OOC: To belarus i hate to burst your bubble but before your nation was ever created on Nationstates belarus became part of Russia which is about March 2003.

S'pose it's a different Belarus, eh. Whiiich brings me to North Korea.. what's the condition of North Korea in the Russian Forces version of Eurasia? (I ask because Dra-pol is on top of North Korea, and I wonder if we need be concerned, or if NK in your universe is already conquered/someone else. Our fanatical (sham) communist regime probably wouldn't be too fussed anyway, I suppose.)

The conquest on europe is NOT possible, as i have said before. Polan will NOT be taken over.Damn right. I built my empire in Poland and I'll defend it from there!

OOC: Same with my other nation of Baggera, who is to the immediate East of Crimmond.

EDIT: Here's a map (http://home.earthlink.net/~alpha_zero_usm/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/europe-map.jpg) showing both my main nations.

I do not think Russian Forces has a right to take over Europe, nor the ability to.

First of all, Poland, and everything west of there, are NOT Russian. Russia has no claim to them, and has no right to them.

Second, nations would create one huge coalition if RF invaded Europe. People are very touchy about they continant.

Technicaly, Russians aren't even from the area of Russia. The people who created Russia were Armenians who migrated north and called the region there "The Rus". At the same time Vikings started setting up trading posts all over this area. It was mainly inhabited by people closely related to the Mongols before the Vikings and Armenians came.

Russian Forces:

While we may be on semi-friendly terms with you, know this: you touch Greece, you die.


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.... this is no threat to the world. Anyway may i remind people there were coalitions lead against Russian Forces and guess what happened to them? 8)

Besides if i tried to go for Europe then the whole of nationstates will be crawling all over Russia.

.... this is no threat to the world. Anyway may i remind people there were coalitions lead against Russian Forces and guess what happened to them? 8)

You seem to forget who came to your defense time after time....us.

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---Damien Dreadfire---
-Supreme Dictator of AMF-
G.D.O.D.A.D
-C.o.E Member-
Ruler of The Ancient Republic of Greek Forces, The Silent Protectorate of Old Frankland, The Holy Kingdom of The Royal Knights, and The Armed Republic of The Anti-Terror Army, The Mentally Superior Republic of Arrogant Uber Geniuses, The Raving Lunatics of Hackers Demise

Yeah, and you'd get all the Godmodders, who instantly Nuke you, and have 2 million mad army near Moscow 14 minutes after your invasion of Eastern Europe...

Here's a map (http://home.earthlink.net/~alpha_zero_usm/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/europe-map.jpg) showing both my main nations.OOC: Refering to this map, of course.

IC: You can see we control Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Kaliningrad, Belarus and a chunk of the Ukraine. To get to the rest orf Europe, you'd have to go through the Ukraine or go through me... I can tell you that the second choice is not a wise one.

I see you are stating you don't have plans to invade Europe. Good. I will be increasing the deathtraps along the Russian border in to about ten miles though.

Just in case.

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Overlord Var'chak
Supreme Ruler of The Annexed States of Baggera (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=baggera)
Member: Arda Alliance (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_region/region=arda)
Member: World Biochem Proliferation Treaty (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=91463)
Member: GDODAD (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=95324)

OOC: Interesting new pic, AMF.

OOC: Interesting new pic, AMF.

:)

I should release Damien action figures.

OOC: Oh FFS man just claiming your European gains is hard. I have al of Post Soviet East nations. All oldies here recognise it.

OOC: Oh FFS man just claiming your European gains is hard. I have al of Post Soviet East nations. All oldies here recognise it.OOC: FFS? :? I assume you are talking to me. I RP from there and I won't be budged without a fight, you can accept it or ignore my claims and only accept my Eithiopian claims. Or Ignore Baggera altogether.

In a land invasion, Russia would need to march through Italy, Switzerland, or Germany to conquer Europe. Let me remind you that if Italy or Switzerland are attacked by Russian soldiers, Watertest will destroy you.

OOC: I can ignore you if i want. i spent long RPing months to get those gains and im not wasting it over a new nation. :x

OOC: I can ignore you if i want. i spent long RPing months to get those gains and im not wasting it over a new nation. :x

OOC: I wouldn't call Baggera a new nation. :?

OOC: It's newer than mine. I aquired Ukraine and Belarus in Febuary. Man you know how much i get pissed when having so many nations claiming to have your gains. I swear i should have made a made up nation instead!

OOC: It's newer than mine.

OOC: 'Tis that arrogance that will cost you one day...

I aquired Ukraine and Belarus in Febuary. Man you know how much i get pissed when having so many nations claiming to have your gains. I swear i should have made a made up nation instead!

OOC: Well, then there's only one way to settle it. :twisted:

OOC: Once i get baggera off my back i should frickin Trade mark my gains and nation.

Go ask Pure Evil,Imperial Forces,ADK,New York and Jersey,United Gimps, The Brotherhood of Nod, Lord Christopher Scott, Attawar,Bisons etc.

They know how i Conquered....uhem took The Ukraine,Belarus,Estonia,Latvia,Lithuania,Chechnya,Georgia,Azerbaijan (North), Armenia and Kalingrad was always part of Russia.

OOC: It's newer than mine.

OOC: 'Tis that arrogance that will cost you one day...

I aquired Ukraine and Belarus in Febuary. Man you know how much i get pissed when having so many nations claiming to have your gains. I swear i should have made a made up nation instead!

OOC: Well, then there's only one way to settle it. :twisted:

I did settle it with war but still more nations fly in! It's so damn annoying!

(Real world nations claims are generally confusing, overlapping, and conflicting. Deal with it, there are 80,000 nations on NS or so and 200 in the real world.)

After a long Session of Parliament it has been Agreed that an Invasion on European Countries to turn them into Russians Blocks will be seen as a Declaration of War on the Kingdom of Dr_Twist and the Kingdom will Mobilize to Deal with the Threat if need be.

OOC: Twist, I replied to your TM.

OOC: I usually claim just Africa to keep things simple, but I could lay claimes to basically the rest of the Third World and some other pieces :)

But as Tahar Joblis said, that just won't work.

If i deal with it my way then don't claim its ignorant! Im ignoring peoples control of Post Soviet Eastern Europe.

One thing is a non real nation would be boring to fight in! Bah i probably should quit nation states!

If i deal with it my way then don't claim its ignorant! Im ignoring peoples control of Post Soviet Eastern Europe.

One thing is a non real nation would be boring to fight in! Bah i probably should quit nation states!

Fighting in Real nations is Fun becaues everything is allready there and set out like Mountains Forrests and stuff which makes it so good.

OOC: That said, if I have to use a real loctation for R/P in any wars, I'll claim Alaska, Canada and Greenland. But If it is not needed, I'll just keep to my self made continet in the south.

With that said i want Australia and Southeast Asia.

http://www.robbiegwynne.nm.ru/news1.bmp

Emergency statement released by the Ministry of Defence,

The Foreign Minister, Tatyana Ruskovich, has informed me that talks to resolve the territorial dispute over the territories of Belarus with the Russian Forces have collapsed. The Russian government refuse to negotiate and have threatened to invade if Minsk does not surrender ourselves to the Russian Forces.

The Government of Belarus reaffirms its Independence and vows to fight till the last man to defend out motherland.

We call upon the International Community to interviene and to assist us in defending our nation, a nation that has never attacked another state and has always been at the forefront of humanitarian assistance.

http://www.belarus-mod.cjb.net
http://www.belarus-mfa.cjb.net

OOC: It's newer than mine. I aquired Ukraine and Belarus in Febuary. Man you know how much i get pissed when having so many nations claiming to have your gains. I swear i should have made a made up nation instead!OOC: How in the hell was I supposed to know you had the former Soviet states? Huh? I did NOT claim that to piss you off. If I had, I'd control Moscow at the moment. :roll:

Why don't you get over the idea that newer nations are trying to get your goat by claiming land that they... DIDN'T KNOW WAS YOURS? You do that and get back to me. Maybe then we can settle this without an Ignore.

RF,

Why did you invade me causing me to quit NationStates the first time I played it? I was not a GDODAD member, just an ally of Drum Gods.

Best Regards,
The Resurrected Lands of Nanakaland

(OOC: Wasn't it a coalition of Copiosa Scotia, Automagfreek, Tahar Joblis, and Aequatio that did that?)

TENSION RISES IN MINSK AS DIPLOMACY FAILS
AND MOSCOW THREATENS TO INVADE

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OOC: Blah, people should never invade real life regions when they are not claimed by anyone.. Then many new nations will simply spawn and claim those lands, and there's a big mess. The only way to conquer a land should be by conquering it from another NS nation, I think..

Or actually, nobody should claim any real life lands. I claimed once, but then I left the Earth. And basically left the NS too, though. Simply don't have any interest in this anymore :P

I left the Earth. And basically left the NS too, though. Simply don't have any interest in this anymore :PWho are you again? :wink:

In response to aggression of Russian Forces, all Federal Army, Navy, and Air Force units in Poland have been placed on full alert.

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God bless,

The Federal Union of England, Ireland and Poland

With that said i want Australia and Southeast Asia.

Don't even think about claiming Southeast Asia.

The Republic has been in the latter region for centuries, and you *DON'T* want to fight us.

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia

With that said i want Australia and Southeast Asia.

Don't even think about claiming Southeast Asia.

The Republic has been in the latter region for centuries, and you *DON'T* want to fight us.

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia

Step 1: this is for this Role Play only and will be useing the Map of earth as a role play map.

Step 2: it is well known throw NS that Australia Belongs to me SC can back this up.

Russia-Belarussia Crisis LATEST

IS THERE GOING TO BE WAR?!

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97813&highlight=

Who are you again? :wink:

OOC: Somebody who only comes here to criticize things :P