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Well... I was looking thru the archive forum and stumbled on to the Amerigan Slaver War thread that pieced together remenants of the war which alas are no longer there. Now I remember those days very fondly and am very much pleased that a war centered about my nation could be considered "the greatest NS war of all time" (Nankaland said it...). Now seriously, although I have in recent months long abandoned the NS forum, I believe we survivin' veterans of those good ol' days should start another conflict... I suppose the beuty of that one was it was so spontaneous and realistic... But hell, we ought to give it a try! What do you say?

(Note to mods: Hey guys (esp. you newer mods) don't move this thread anywhere else. Anyone who needs to see this will see it here)

OOC: I say all you old fart nations are all soft. You may have started RPing on NS, but hell... it was us March nations that had to distinguish ourselves during the n00b invasion of March-May. Do you realise how hard that was? Make one mistake and give a tank too much speed and get whacked with an Ignore or a Freaking Huge Cannonball of Justice.




:wink:

OOC: I say all you old fart nations are all soft. You may have started RPing on NS, but hell... it was us March nations that had to distinguish ourselves during the n00b invasion of March-May. Do you realise how hard that was? Make one mistake and give a tank too much speed and get whacked with an Ignore or a Freaking Huge Cannonball of Justice.




:wink:
Well I abandoned NS forum around... damn I forgot... When was the first eternal thread moved to general? I guess that was before your time...

OOC: I say all you old fart nations are all soft. You may have started RPing on NS, but hell... it was us March nations that had to distinguish ourselves during the n00b invasion of March-May. Do you realise how hard that was? Make one mistake and give a tank too much speed and get whacked with an Ignore or a Freaking Huge Cannonball of Justice.




:wink:

AMEN

bump.

I'm in. :D

Bah! NS nation age elitism is for the birds :P

If I wasn't a pacifist, I'd definitely be tempted. I sat out of the Amerigo war and regretted it later, but unfortunately politics and economics mean I'd rather not go to war any time soon.

I will, however, keep an eye out for anything that happens.

Hmmm...
<Boring tag>

The problem with your newbies(and to us you guys are newbies) is you guys think your the only ones who had to deal with NOOB invasions. Now back in my day NOOBs were at the gates like barbarians and the NS Boards were like the Titanic trying to float with the bow completely ripped off. :P

And the propellers. And the rudder. And there were sharks all about the place, too. :)

Ah the Slaver war who can forget. That was a very interesting roleplay. I remember I was still very new to this all and the sheer size was so very daunting. Now that war taught me a thing or two about NS roleplaying.

Though I was not RPing at the time this war happened (Hell I don't even know if I had my nation when it happened) I would be most interested in a new RP. I have been looking for something to get in on like this.

Bah! NS nation age elitism is for the birds :P
STFU n00b!

:wink:

Bah! NS nation age elitism is for the birds :P
STFU n00b!

:wink:N0bb?//? N0eS!1!11 i WIL n00k U!111!!!

The problem with your newbies(and to us you guys are newbies) is you guys think your the only ones who had to deal with NOOB invasions. Now back in my day NOOBs were at the gates like barbarians and the NS Boards were like the Titanic trying to float with the bow completely ripped off. :P

OOC: Am I not older than you ?

No your not. My country was made on December 25th 2002, it just got deleted for about 3 weeks then I came back from having lost my ISP and thus I only missed 3 weeks. But I'm still older than you.

No your not. My country was made on December 25th 2002, it just got deleted for about 3 weeks then I came back from having lost my ISP and thus I only missed 3 weeks. But I'm still older than you.

Just askin'

(In that case please, for the love of pedantry, grow an apostrophe-E!)


(Sorry, pet-hate.)

*waves* I'm still alive too... vaguely speaking ;)

Yeah It'd be awesome to try something else... right now I've got an RP going in Baron: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=96572

I have a set plan for that, but if you wish we could explode it out at the end to involve everyone, and several different terrorist factions and their supporters... It could get very cool indeed.

Interested?

Or we could do something else :) Whatever you want lol

Eh... I'm still around. Puttering around. I'm big and clumsy now...

Hey, great idea! Let's start a spontaneous war with no apparent IC cause right now starring a bunch of elitist bastards from the "good ol' days!" By golly, war without provocation and reason--indeed, war just for the sake of farting around and reminiscing--will show those newbies how things were REALLY done back in the day!

Hey, great idea! Let's start a spontaneous war with no apparent IC cause right now starring a bunch of elitist bastards from the "good ol' days!" By golly, war without provocation and reason--indeed, war just for the sake of farting around and reminiscing--will show those newbies how things were REALLY done back in the day!

ROFL, Slag. ;)
Eh, I wish I was involved, but no.

Hey, great idea! Let's start a spontaneous war with no apparent IC cause right now starring a bunch of elitist bastards from the "good ol' days!" By golly, war without provocation and reason--indeed, war just for the sake of farting around and reminiscing--will show those newbies how things were REALLY done back in the day!

:shock:

Thinking

:lol:

OOC:days of glory for Iesus, genocide and we even achieved our goals! i mean...like wow!
We'll give it some thought...

*cough cough* In my day sonny we had more respect ....:P

If you want a reason to go to war, I can make one...which nation you want me to carbomb? :twisted:

OOC:days of glory for Iesus, genocide and we even achieved our goals! i mean...like wow!
We'll give it some thought...

*cough cough* In my day sonny we had more respect ....:P

OOC: LOL!!! I remember sitting the Slave War out because I couldn't bring myself to side with the fascists :wink:

Hey, great idea! Let's start a spontaneous war with no apparent IC cause right now starring a bunch of elitist bastards from the "good ol' days!" By golly, war without provocation and reason--indeed, war just for the sake of farting around and reminiscing--will show those newbies how things were REALLY done back in the day!



Count me in. Count us all in.

Wombat News Report (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2216355#2216355)

Amerigo is a land of contrast.

~Siri

(OOC: I sat the Amerigo conflict out due mostly to intimidation, as my RP writing skills at the time were nowhere near what they are today. Perhaps ironically, I'm currently involved in another slave war with Zenti and Yurka, one that's being RPed surprisingly well, with little complaining and few shouts of "GODMODE!" Back on topic, however, I'd definitely be interested in another war like the Amerigan Slave War, assuming there's a good, solid reason behind it and not just "I want to go to war!" Keep me posted.)

Amerigo is a land of contrast.

~SiriMenelmacar is a land of cliched news reports.

:D

Bah! NS nation age elitism is for the birds :P
STFU n00b!

:wink:N0bb?//? N0eS!1!11 i WIL n00k U!111!!!

NOee f00! I will n00k j00z!11!!!1112!!!!!1111!!!!?/??

OCC: Ma earth puppet West warwick will certainly drop in.

Hm. I sat out the A.S.W. due to my sucky internet connection at the time... and now greatly regret it. I've got exactly... zero and a half Earth relations right now. So, if there's actually good reason behind it, I'd love to get in on a replay, if only to open up further opportunities.

Hm. I sat out the A.S.W. due to my sucky internet connection at the time... and now greatly regret it. I've got exactly... zero and a half Earth relations right now. So, if there's actually good reason behind it, I'd love to get in on a replay, if only to open up further opportunities.
What about the WTE members? Wich I am one off. Then again I am Alpha Centauri + Earth country

I didn't participate in the war, probably cuz I created the nation the day of, and didn't start lurking on the forums till about a week later. BUT I do remember the hype and the fuss surrounding it.

Hmm. Definetly sounds interesing... I know I didn't do much in the war, but it was fun, and actually my first RP here, way back when. Cheers.

I took part in the initial blockade, using a small number of Nimrods to watch for slave ships. However, once the actual fighting started I turned and ran, mainly because I was too small.

I think Raving Liberals, LRR's predecessor, tried to fight with its fleet of frigates, but I was way too n00bish at that point and got ignored.

Okay... okay... So we got quite a bit of response here... Who's on right now... As in now when I'm posting it... We'll need to brainstorm an incident that would increase diplomatic tensions... Well I'm thinking an assasination of some official or a border skirmish started by armed civilians could work... However firstly I believe us elitists should definately make a general map of our enormous nations... Then we craft an incident and then we let lose old school RPing...

Okay any ideas, firstly?

(OOC: I don't currently have a border with an RPing nation. Right now, I assume that the countries to my north are Argesea and Sepland, members of my region.

I do have a map of my nation alone, if that's any help.)

(OOC: I don't currently have a border with an RPing nation. Right now, I assume that the countries to my north are Argesea and Sepland, members of my region.

I do have a map of my nation alone, if that's any help.)

Well can anyone really quickly make a rough map on paint and post it on some web page and tehn link it here....

Just to tell you Amerigo is a sprawling Archiepa... Damn it how do you spell it... The group of islands word... You know what it is...

Otherwise just whoever volunteering make a rough map of nations currently volunteering for this RP.

(OOC: I don't currently have a border with an RPing nation. Right now, I assume that the countries to my north are Argesea and Sepland, members of my region.

I do have a map of my nation alone, if that's any help.)

Well can anyone really quickly make a rough map on paint and post it on some web page and tehn link it here....

Just to tell you Amerigo is a sprawling Archiepa... Damn it how do you spell it... The group of islands word... You know what it is...

Otherwise just whoever volunteering make a rough map of nations currently volunteering for this RP.

(OOC: I don't understand. Are we talking about maps of our individual countries, or a map with all our countries on it?)

(OOC: I don't currently have a border with an RPing nation. Right now, I assume that the countries to my north are Argesea and Sepland, members of my region.

I do have a map of my nation alone, if that's any help.)

Well can anyone really quickly make a rough map on paint and post it on some web page and tehn link it here....

Just to tell you Amerigo is a sprawling Archiepa... Damn it how do you spell it... The group of islands word... You know what it is...

Otherwise just whoever volunteering make a rough map of nations currently volunteering for this RP.

(OOC: I don't understand. Are we talking about maps of our individual countries, or a map with all our countries on it?)
Map with all our countries... Just rough and general... So as to get a picture of where we are in relation to each other...

Okay... okay... So we got quite a bit of response here... Who's on right now... As in now when I'm posting it... We'll need to brainstorm an incident that would increase diplomatic tensions... Well I'm thinking an assasination of some official or a border skirmish started by armed civilians could work... However firstly I believe us elitists should definately make a general map of our enormous nations... Then we craft an incident and then we let lose old school RPing...

Okay any ideas, firstly?
Perhaps, to start off, a Raevynese state-sponsered terrorist group could blow up an establishment of immorality in some other participating nation? :)

Okay... okay... So we got quite a bit of response here... Who's on right now... As in now when I'm posting it... We'll need to brainstorm an incident that would increase diplomatic tensions... Well I'm thinking an assasination of some official or a border skirmish started by armed civilians could work... However firstly I believe us elitists should definately make a general map of our enormous nations... Then we craft an incident and then we let lose old school RPing...

Okay any ideas, firstly?
Perhaps, to start off, a Raevynese state-sponsered terrorist group could blow up an establishment of immorality in some other participating nation? :)
That could work... Amerigo is a highly Catholicized land... And thus a bomb in a church could rile up the entire nation.

I still would like someone to make that map...

But we might as well get started. Raevyn start a thread and post a link on this thread. WE'll go along with your idea, now.

Well, are there any notable places of debauchery and sin in Amerigo? Bordellos, crackhouses..? A church would be the last thing a Raevynese suicide bomber would blow up. :P

Here's a map (http://mywebpage.netscape.com/CommieVlad/raevynmap2.PNG) of Raevyn; it's located in the Atlantic near Europe.

Well, are there any notable places of debauchery and sin in Amerigo? Bordellos, crackhouses..? A church would be the last thing a Raevynese suicide bomber would blow up. :P

Here's a map (http://mywebpage.netscape.com/CommieVlad/raevynmap2.PNG) of Raevyn; it's located in the Atlantic near Europe.

(OOC: My country might present more promising targets, as practically everything's legal here.)

Well, are there any notable places of debauchery and sin in Amerigo? Bordellos, crackhouses..? A church would be the last thing a Raevynese suicide bomber would blow up. :P

Here's a map (http://mywebpage.netscape.com/CommieVlad/raevynmap2.PNG) of Raevyn; it's located in the Atlantic near Europe.
Opium dens and other places of drugs use.

All drugs are legal in Amerigo, but not promoted by the government itself, although the government owns all drug selling establishments.

(OOC: Now that I think of it, though, I'm not really in great shape to launch another aggressive military campaign over anything anytime soon. I'd be better off playing the defender, or a supporting role on either side.)

(OOC: Now that I think of it, though, I'm not really in great shape to launch another aggressive military campaign over anything anytime soon. I'd be better off playing the defender, or a supporting role on either side.)
Well how things play out is all going to be imrpomptu, however all we need is an incident... We aren't planning everything... just a beginning event.

Opium dens and other places of drugs use.

All drugs are legal in Amerigo, but not promoted by the government itself, although the government owns all drug selling establishments.
Excellent. Now, just give me the name of a large Amerigan city and we'll be good to go. 8)

Why not the historic Liasa? A city that survived the Great Amerigan War and where the peace talks were held. Very historic.

OOC: I say all you old fart nations are all soft. You may have started RPing on NS, but hell... it was us March nations that had to distinguish ourselves during the n00b invasion of March-May. Do you realise how hard that was? Make one mistake and give a tank too much speed and get whacked with an Ignore or a Freaking Huge Cannonball of Justice.




:wink:

EXACTLY!

And that's the reason I'm a 'bad' roleplayer, fell into rping with RF and the like... *blames society!*

Excellent. Now, give a little while to start the thread. [I am slow when typing :oops:].

Terrorists?

I got two terrorist puppets sitting around for an emergency.

I know I'm new...but If you have need of me...I got plenty of countries and personalities. You never know if that's an Aquillapuppet RPing with you!

For lack of a better post topic, tag.

<Mark for interest>

I'm willing to host the war... or, at the very least, allow some terrorists to nuke a city in the Pakistanii terriroty... if that isn't cause for a war, I don't know what is. :)

Besides, another invasion of Amerigo would really drive away the populace... after all, no one likes being invaded. Repeatedly.

Sorry must go... Might be back later today... In a couple of hours maybe?

Ooh! Ooh! I'll be in - sit-down strikes, hunger protests, and peace speeches and all! It'll be just like old times! ^_^

~Freebs

Eh... now that I think about it, Amerigo wouldn't be a prime target for Raevynese suicide bombers. It's not exactly the most liberal or capitalistic of nations. :|

*5 year old kid nation raises his hand*
Can I join, once our newbie slave war is over?

...wow.

So this is the way things went down back in the day. Everything was entirely improvised and entirely without provocation. There was no causality; stuff just sort of happened.

Now I see that you elitists really haven't been holding much over my head. Good to know.

What the hell are you talking about? Go away. :?

...wow.

So this is the way things went down back in the day. Everything was entirely improvised and entirely without provocation. There was no causality; stuff just sort of happened.

Now I see that you elitists really haven't been holding much over my head. Good to know.

Oh, it was much better back in the day *creak creak* we didn't have to plan things, we didn't automatically ignore people, and the RP community was small enough that there was little trouble having all of us interact over the forums.

What the hell are you talking about? Go away. :?

YES SIR! RIGHT AWAY SIR!

Oh, wait... no.

Oh, it was much better back in the day *creak creak* we didn't have to plan things, we didn't automatically ignore people, and the RP community was small enough that there was little trouble having all of us interact over the forums.

Well, pardon me and many of the rest of the people here for trying to expand on the community and find our niche. Apparently, in the eyes of a lot of the people here, we've failed miserably, and I've wasted the past eight months creating for nothing.

...wow.

So this is the way things went down back in the day. Everything was entirely improvised and entirely without provocation. There was no causality; stuff just sort of happened.

No, this isn't the way things went down back in the day. Trouble is, this is probably about as close as we're gonna get.

Okay... okay... So we got quite a bit of response here... Who's on right now... As in now when I'm posting it... We'll need to brainstorm an incident that would increase diplomatic tensions... Well I'm thinking an assasination of some official or a border skirmish started by armed civilians could work... However firstly I believe us elitists should definately make a general map of our enormous nations... Then we craft an incident and then we let lose old school RPing...

Okay any ideas, firstly?

Well, if this were on Mars, I would have tons of ideas. All kinds of dangerous secret installations dot that planet. But it's not. So... I'm blank.

In any case, here's my map (http://timesurfer.linuxcowboy.net/eniqcir.jpg).

Hm. I sat out the A.S.W. due to my sucky internet connection at the time... and now greatly regret it. I've got exactly... zero and a half Earth relations right now. So, if there's actually good reason behind it, I'd love to get in on a replay, if only to open up further opportunities.
What about the WTE members? Wich I am one off. Then again I am Alpha Centauri + Earth country

Oh yeah... slipped my mind for a moment. But we don't really do a lot of in-depth RP.

Well, pardon me and many of the rest of the people here for trying to expand on the community and find our niche. Apparently, in the eyes of a lot of the people here, we've failed miserably, and I've wasted the past eight months creating for nothing.
What? Don't say such things! I like you. I like lots of the newer players. It's just that a lot of people have failed miserably.

What the hell are you talking about? Go away. :?

YES SIR! RIGHT AWAY SIR!

Oh, wait... no.
Slag, you’re just being annoying. Nobody is forcing you to look at this thread, so if you don’t like it then you don’t have to read it. -_-

Slag, you’re just being annoying. Nobody is forcing you to look at this thread, so if you don’t like it then you don’t have to read it. -_-

You know, there is that sliiiiiiiiiiiiiim chance that maybe I'm trying to make a point if you'd... oh, I dunno... read what I've been saying.

Slag, you’re just being annoying. Nobody is forcing you to look at this thread, so if you don’t like it then you don’t have to read it. -_-

You know, there is that sliiiiiiiiiiiiiim chance that maybe I'm trying to make a point if you'd... oh, I dunno... read what I've been saying.

Slag, I see what you're saying, but are any of the elitists you're talking about really posting in this thread? I, for one, have all kinds of respect for the contributions of so-called "younger nations". After all, many of them are indisputably better RPers than I. When I look at a nation, I don't see creation date. I see writing ability, imagination, and the like. Being "old" gets you a big population. Being a good roleplayer gets you respect.

No, this is probably not the way things happened in the old days. This is just about nostalgia, remembering the old days as being better than they probably were. I won't claim that everything in those days just kind of happened, but that's the way the Amerigan Slave Conflict happened, and much as we might like to, we can't really recreate that. So, like Eniqcir said, we're doing the best we can, creating an incident to see what happens.

If I'm missing the point, I'm really sorry to waste your time with this post. But I think the accusations of elitism are ill-founded. The people on this site who truly believe, even subconsciously, that they're better than you because they clicked "Create Nation" a few months earlier are few and far between. Your contributions are appreciated, not ruled out because you didn't find NationStates until March 2003, and the popularity of practically every thread you start ought to tell you that. And I think I speak for a whole lot of "older" members when I say that I wish I was half as respected as you.

Eh... the latter posts were pretty much written in hasty anger anyway and not really thought out too well. It's just irksome to hear so much about "the good ol' days."

I'll step out of this thread now, as I really see no reason to get involved in a conflict with a bunch of nations with whom I have virtually no dealings. ;)

Eh... the latter posts were pretty much written in hasty anger anyway and not really thought out too well. It's just irksome to hear so much about "the good ol' days."

Understandable. Just know that we don't mean to be exclusive, but that it's pretty much human nature to see the past as having been better than the future.

That, and the Amerigan Slave Conflict really was one heck of an excellent war RP.

Understandable. Just know that we don't mean to be exclusive, but that it's pretty much human nature to see the past as having been better than the future.

I suppose that's what makes us so much different...

[/hijack]

Peh, war then and now? Dra-pol is where the war's at! An estimated fifty seven bajillion word six-on-one conflict based on a massive clash of cultures. The rise of a tyrant, his fall, his phoenix bit, his obligatory "The Buther of [placename]" alias, his getting-beaten-to-death-in-a-Chinese-toilet. The utter lack of movement in the front line and the futility of war, and the three million deaths. And I'm sure there's an interesting social commentry on the matter of the movement of the invader's government towards the manner of the defenders, especially considering the aforementioned culture clash. And the propaganda war, that's super. Have a good propaganda war.

So what I'm trying to say is that "ooh", I'll be watching this, and it better be good, or else Dra-pol will eat your faces, because we've high standards as expressed above, sort of.

-sits back and something about popcorn traditionally goes here, I think-

(SLAG's not human?)

(SLAG's not human?)

Depends on whether or not you consider homo sapiens human.

(SLAG's not human?)

Negative. He is a meat popsicle.

[/hijack]

Well since the suicide bomber thing isn't workin' I have an idea.

Here's a scenario... A covert branch of Amerigo's government has been involved in populating a certain region in one of the participating nations with Amerigan immigrants, with the final goal of waiting untill the Amerigans begin to either fight petition etc. to get their independence. (They're immigration has been completely paid through an organization loosely tied with the covert ops department, which sends them money through fake adresses and requests that they reaffirm their rights in the region). Now see the problem arises when an official in charge of immigration comes to power in that nation intent on curbing local rights and tightening the flow of immigration. Thus that department, on their own initiative attempt a risky assasination.

What do you think?

Noone is to immigrate to the Brotherhood anyway without thorough background checks. And I watch all my citizens etc. etc. :)

But if you need a terrorist attack, I can do it.

I still live, though am slightly zombiefied and paying very little attention to NS. Still, a reunion is a grand idea, now I just have to bring myself to read this thread :D

And now that I have read it, well, Arani has this thing about fighting to the death for Amerigo, assuming that they are on opposite sides to Iesus Christi.

Okay any ideas, firstly?

It really is like the old days, I'm still invicible lol

(Note to mods: Hey guys (esp. you newer mods) don't move this thread anywhere else. Anyone who needs to see this will see it here)

*Spends six hours moving thread around arbitarily every two minutes*

BUMP

Well... I was looking thru the archive forum and stumbled on to the Amerigan Slaver War thread that pieced together remenants of the war which alas are no longer there. Now I remember those days very fondly and am very much pleased that a war centered about my nation could be considered "the greatest NS war of all time" (Nankaland said it...). Now seriously, although I have in recent months long abandoned the NS forum, I believe we survivin' veterans of those good ol' days should start another conflict... I suppose the beuty of that one was it was so spontaneous and realistic... But hell, we ought to give it a try! What do you say?

(Note to mods: Hey guys (esp. you newer mods) don't move this thread anywhere else. Anyone who needs to see this will see it here)

(I'm assuming this is all OOC)

Yes, unfortunately I'm going to be on an RP hiatus for the next two weeks or so (finals and stuff) but mabye after that

I even can think of a good reason for another conflict... remember how I built an airbase on a deserted island near Amerigo at the beginning of the conflict? Well, It's grown to a lot more than that (it's a SATO base now, civlians are on the islands, so it basically Syskeyia's eqipvalent of the Falklands Islands now.) Now, if you look on my World Factbook entry, I list a "dormant dispute" between me and Amerigo regarding St. Peter Claver Island (that's what I call the island now.) Now, my diplomats could find nothing in New Zealand which mentioned the aforementioned island in the treaty that gave Amerigo its independance. Of course, Amerigo might claim otherwise...


...my finals end Dec. 11 (I think), so maybe then...

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia

OOC: I say all you old fart nations are all soft. You may have started RPing on NS, but hell... it was us March nations that had to distinguish ourselves during the n00b invasion of March-May. Do you realise how hard that was? Make one mistake and give a tank too much speed and get whacked with an Ignore or a Freaking Huge Cannonball of Justice.




:wink:

Amen to that. I came here around late-April and had a really hard time getting started. Luckily there were SOME veterans that didn't mind teaching me some things about RPing.

OOC:days of glory for Iesus, genocide and we even achieved our goals! i mean...like wow!
We'll give it some thought...

*cough cough* In my day sonny we had more respect ....:P

OOC: LOL!!! I remember sitting the Slave War out because I couldn't bring myself to side with the fascists :wink:

OOC: Boy did I HATE the fact that Iesus entered the war...

...any support in Syskeyia for Iesus Christi simply disappeared in that war.

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia

Well... I was looking thru the archive forum and stumbled on to the Amerigan Slaver War thread that pieced together remenants of the war which alas are no longer there. Now I remember those days very fondly and am very much pleased that a war centered about my nation could be considered "the greatest NS war of all time" (Nankaland said it...). Now seriously, although I have in recent months long abandoned the NS forum, I believe we survivin' veterans of those good ol' days should start another conflict... I suppose the beuty of that one was it was so spontaneous and realistic... But hell, we ought to give it a try! What do you say?

(Note to mods: Hey guys (esp. you newer mods) don't move this thread anywhere else. Anyone who needs to see this will see it here)

[OOC: I'm a 'bit' slow in noticing this thread, but I agree that that could be quite interesting, having very much enjoyed the Amerigo Conflict (which is what it was called in EOTED, by the way). Although I doubt it would work - and I couldn't be involved, anyway, as I'm far too widely ignored (by most of those who were involved in the Amerigo Conflict, too, I think), these days. But it'd be enjoyable to read, at least.

Oh, and just a useless fact, here: the Amerigo Conflict set the tone for the entire current EOTED foreign policy - and still affects foreign policy decisions even now. Ain't that somethin'?]

Well... I was looking thru the archive forum and stumbled on to the Amerigan Slaver War thread that pieced together remenants of the war which alas are no longer there. Now I remember those days very fondly and am very much pleased that a war centered about my nation could be considered "the greatest NS war of all time" (Nankaland said it...). Now seriously, although I have in recent months long abandoned the NS forum, I believe we survivin' veterans of those good ol' days should start another conflict... I suppose the beuty of that one was it was so spontaneous and realistic... But hell, we ought to give it a try! What do you say?

(Note to mods: Hey guys (esp. you newer mods) don't move this thread anywhere else. Anyone who needs to see this will see it here)

(I'm assuming this is all OOC)

Yes, unfortunately I'm going to be on an RP hiatus for the next two weeks or so (finals and stuff) but mabye after that

I even can think of a good reason for another conflict... remember how I built an airbase on a deserted island near Amerigo at the beginning of the conflict? Well, It's grown to a lot more than that (it's a SATO base now, civlians are on the islands, so it basically Syskeyia's eqipvalent of the Falklands Islands now.) Now, if you look on my World Factbook entry, I list a "dormant dispute" between me and Amerigo regarding St. Peter Claver Island (that's what I call the island now.) Now, my diplomats could find nothing in New Zealand which mentioned the aforementioned island in the treaty that gave Amerigo its independance. Of course, Amerigo might claim otherwise...


...my finals end Dec. 11 (I think), so maybe then...

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia
Huh... I completely forgot about that... Yes... that would do perfectly... Well 'till Dec 11.

But for now we need a final list of who will in fact be actively involved in the one we're starting now or in the proximity of now...

Well since the suicide bomber thing isn't workin' I have an idea.

Here's a scenario... A covert branch of Amerigo's government has been involved in populating a certain region in one of the participating nations with Amerigan immigrants, with the final goal of waiting untill the Amerigans begin to either fight petition etc. to get their independence. (They're immigration has been completely paid through an organization loosely tied with the covert ops department, which sends them money through fake adresses and requests that they reaffirm their rights in the region). Now see the problem arises when an official in charge of immigration comes to power in that nation intent on curbing local rights and tightening the flow of immigration. Thus that department, on their own initiative attempt a risky assasination.

What do you think?

That actually might work out pretty well for me, but I like Syskeyia's idea too.

I would like to join. I think only nation 6 months and older should be allowed in.

A scenario:
Anybody ever played Alpha Centauri? How about this:
In one of our nations, there is severe friction between several rival cutlures, and skirmishing has been going on for years. Then one day, something big happens (nuclear attack or something) that force other nations into the conflict, and they side with the faction that most suits their ideals (there could be a religious faction, a militaristic faction, a survivalist faction, and others).
I think that would work very well, and we would only need a map for that one country.

OK, remember my terrorists?

Terrorists attack some nation.

That nation invade terrorists.

Amerigo declares the terrorists are under his protection.

Nation's allies come.

Amerigo's allies come.

World War X!

Good idea? It could be the Amerigon Terrorist Crisis!

I would like to join. I think only nation 6 months and older should be allowed in.

A scenario:
Anybody ever played Alpha Centauri? How about this:
In one of our nations, there is severe friction between several rival cutlures, and skirmishing has been going on for years. Then one day, something big happens (nuclear attack or something) that force other nations into the conflict, and they side with the faction that most suits their ideals (there could be a religious faction, a militaristic faction, a survivalist faction, and others).
I think that would work very well, and we would only need a map for that one country.

Holy crap! That describes my situation almost perfectly! Er... except it's mostly in an offworld colony... I might be able to bring it Earthside, though. That would be cool, having one half of the war on Earth and the other on Mars.

Fine, fine, I'll give up on my suggestion... :P

I'm still interested in RPing this though.

I could also import some more catgirls for "scientific purposes" (read: nasty experiments), and we have a new slavery-like conflict.

If we make it 20th Century tech, than it could be during the Roanian civil wars...

Let us limit it to the amount of people we had during the last one. I have no interest in wading through threads which grow 5 pages a night (though the forum crashes may have stopped that back then).

I hope you don't mind if I change a bit of reality in Arani, my nation is too screwed to war with anyone but everyone else who is already attacking me at the moment.

I can remember the Amerigo Slave War, it was probably the best war i had been in. At the time my RP skills weren't the best but i still enjoyed myself, and i didn't go over board with the amount of troops there.

Anyway now that i am bigger and better at RPing i think this could work. I think i would probably have a small detatchment of troops left in Amerigo to get it back on its feet, so if you want they could be part of this our starting up to a war thing. Oh and my Friend from Crapes, he didn't do any fighting but he did supply me during it so..... i think he maybe able to some fighting now and he is good at role playing.

Let us limit it to the amount of people we had during the last one. I have no interest in wading through threads which grow 5 pages a night (though the forum crashes may have stopped that back then).

I hope you don't mind if I change a bit of reality in Arani, my nation is too screwed to war with anyone but everyone else who is already attacking me at the moment.

The original Amerigan War would grow ten pages and three threads overnight :D remember?

Let us limit it to the amount of people we had during the last one. I have no interest in wading through threads which grow 5 pages a night (though the forum crashes may have stopped that back then).

I hope you don't mind if I change a bit of reality in Arani, my nation is too screwed to war with anyone but everyone else who is already attacking me at the moment.

The original Amerigan War would grow ten pages and three threads overnight :D remember?

And you had to type uphill both ways in the snow.... :wink:

I'll try to drag New Rastonia/Snuffopolis in too... old Rastonia died :(

And you had to type uphill both ways in the snow.... :wink:

But we took that for granted back then :wink:

My memory is a bit fuzzy of that...

Arani has an irrational hatred of whoever fought against Amerigo in that war, so I have a reason for only targeting to older nations who I'm sure know what they're doing. :D

We need to pick a scenario before more people get involved, and it turns into a noob war.

We're in. How about Amerigo resumes its old ways, and the old coalitions line up to fight the 'Amerigan war to end all Amerigan wars?' (Just a suggestion)

[OOC: And the lack of note paid to my post proves my point about being widely ignored... heh.

Although, it would be nice to fight another Intervention War, against both sides of a conflict. I haven't done that since Amerigo (except in the Rukemia Campaign, but that hardly counts as it was a very brief campaign that was over almost as soon as it began).]

*groan* People... people! This is the kin of thinking that makes RPs today bad... If you want a war from the outset the whole RP is going to suck. We need an incident. We don't want something that WILL cause a war. We need something that will stress diplomatic relations and CAN lead to war. Thats why I have been ignoring many suggestions from the outset. Please, people, try a relatively small incident, that could easily occur. Secondly my nation has no spacefleets or Moon colonies so try to keep this on Earth and the most important point I'd like to make here. Don't even count on there being a war. If anything, the want on both sides to avoid war made the Amerigna conflict so glorious. And no Amerigo will not revert to its previous colonies simply to start a conflict. Now please people, who will seriously heed my suggestions and actually participate?

And you had to type uphill both ways in the snow.... :wink:

But we took that for granted back then :wink:

Good god...I remember only being able to post at like 2 in the morning because that's the only time not many people were on :lol:

And you had to type uphill both ways in the snow.... :wink:

But we took that for granted back then :wink:

Good god...I remember only being able to post at like 2 in the morning because that's the only time not many people were on :lol:
Don't get me started on that... I eventually lost all track what was going on in the blackade... had to make a new thread about peace talks... Then I was eventually informed that somehow a nuclear device went off in my waters! :x

(OOC: Actually, if none of the previous ideas sound good, I've got an idea for an incident.)

(OOC: Actually, if none of the previous ideas sound good, I've got an idea for an incident.)
Well then, do tell.

(OOC: Actually, if none of the previous ideas sound good, I've got an idea for an incident.)
Well then, do tell.

(OOC: Copiosa Scotia has a policy that no weapons of any sort are allowed in space directly above our nation, and we have the weaponry - all of it present-tech - to enforce that policy. To date, we haven't had to enforce that policy, but we could shoot down a satellite/modern-tech spacecraft - either an armed one, or, by mistake, an unarmed one - drawing the ire of the nation it belonged to.)

And you had to type uphill both ways in the snow.... :wink:

But we took that for granted back then :wink:

Good god...I remember only being able to post at like 2 in the morning because that's the only time not many people were on :lol:
Don't get me started on that... I eventually lost all track what was going on in the blackade... had to make a new thread about peace talks... Then I was eventually informed that somehow a nuclear device went off in my waters! :x

[OOC: Heh. The nuclear device? Erm, that would have been me...

...but ICly, almost nobody knows that. ;)]

I could also import some more catgirls for "scientific purposes" (read: nasty experiments), and we have a new slavery-like conflict.
Where did you get all those catgirls, anyways? :?

Please say something more than "I found them."

(OOC: Copiosa Scotia has a policy that no weapons of any sort are allowed in space directly above our nation, and we have the weaponry - all of it present-tech - to enforce that policy. To date, we haven't had to enforce that policy, but we could shoot down a satellite/modern-tech spacecraft - either an armed one, or, by mistake, an unarmed one - drawing the ire of the nation it belonged to.)
That might be a good idea, but it would exclude me unless I said something about how your space technology defies the law of God. :)

(OOC: Actually, if none of the previous ideas sound good, I've got an idea for an incident.)
Well then, do tell.

(OOC: Copiosa Scotia has a policy that no weapons of any sort are allowed in space directly above our nation, and we have the weaponry - all of it present-tech - to enforce that policy. To date, we haven't had to enforce that policy, but we could shoot down a satellite/modern-tech spacecraft - either an armed one, or, by mistake, an unarmed one - drawing the ire of the nation it belonged to.)
Bit a of a problem with that. Amerigo has not space program... At all...

OK, remember my terrorists?

Terrorists attack some nation.

That nation invade terrorists.

Amerigo declares the terrorists are under his protection.

Nation's allies come.

Amerigo's allies come.

World War X!

Good idea? It could be the Amerigon Terrorist Crisis!

Well this doesn't require anything in space...

*groan* People... people! This is the kin of thinking that makes RPs today bad... If you want a war from the outset the whole RP is going to suck. We need an incident. We don't want something that WILL cause a war. We need something that will stress diplomatic relations and CAN lead to war. Thats why I have been ignoring many suggestions from the outset. Please, people, try a relatively small incident, that could easily occur. Secondly my nation has no spacefleets or Moon colonies so try to keep this on Earth and the most important point I'd like to make here. Don't even count on there being a war. If anything, the want on both sides to avoid war made the Amerigna conflict so glorious. And no Amerigo will not revert to its previous colonies simply to start a conflict. Now please people, who will seriously heed my suggestions and actually participate?
How about a copy of the American Civil War? In short, a nation with two unique (cultures is the main setting. One (culture gets fed up with the other, believes it's trampling on it's rights or whatnot, and claims itself to be a completely different country. (Culture A wants (Culture B to stay in the Union, and (Culture B wants (Culture A to adhere to it's demands, and both (cultures are prepared to go to war. It will be up to outside nations to try to prevent the war, and if war does come, nations may try to intervene on either side. Sound like what you're looking for?

*groan* People... people! This is the kin of thinking that makes RPs today bad... If you want a war from the outset the whole RP is going to suck. We need an incident. We don't want something that WILL cause a war. We need something that will stress diplomatic relations and CAN lead to war. Thats why I have been ignoring many suggestions from the outset. Please, people, try a relatively small incident, that could easily occur. Secondly my nation has no spacefleets or Moon colonies so try to keep this on Earth and the most important point I'd like to make here. Don't even count on there being a war. If anything, the want on both sides to avoid war made the Amerigna conflict so glorious. And no Amerigo will not revert to its previous colonies simply to start a conflict. Now please people, who will seriously heed my suggestions and actually participate?
How about a copy of the American Civil War? In short, a nation with two unique (cultures is the main setting. One (culture gets fed up with the other, believes it's trampling on it's rights or whatnot, and claims itself to be a completely different country. (Culture A wants (Culture B to stay in the Union, and (Culture B wants (Culture A to adhere to it's demands, and both (cultures are prepared to go to war. It will be up to outside nations to try to prevent the war, and if war does come, nations may try to intervene on either side. Sound like what you're looking for?
Yes okay fine... that'll work. But theres a problem. I still don't know who is going to participate and which nation wishes to have this scenario occur. What nations wishes to step up and volunteer where the incident shall occur?

friggin' bump!

I have treaty ports on Earth, but I am mostly a space nation, could I still participate in this? I might even be willing to help percipitate an "incident." We could even have that incident create an internal civil conflict rather than an external war. Once the civil war starts to drag in foreign help and aid it could begin to mushroom over into an international conflict. With those supporting the various factions eventually coming to war with one another because they can no longer successful bottle up the conflict in Amerigo or some other nation. Does that sound good?

I have treaty ports on Earth, but I am mostly a space nation, could I still participate in this? I might even be willing to help percipitate an "incident." We could even have that incident create an internal civil conflict rather than an external war. Once the civil war starts to drag in foreign help and aid it could begin to mushroom over into an international conflict. With those supporting the various factions eventually coming to war with one another because they can no longer successful bottle up the conflict in Amerigo or some other nation. Does that sound good?
Well, frankly I don't really like mixing scifi nations with normal tech nations... because then we get fantasy type nations with their orcs and elves and vampires... while their starships are blasting guerrila trolls who are hurling boulders at people armed with ak 47's and frankly (contrary to some people) I don't really think all that could work.

But a Civil War is a good idea... although as I have said several times before... I think we should have a relatively small incident which leads to bigger and better things. And whats more I don't think we really need ideas now... We kind of need a list of people who are willing to participate...

You know I'm in. :o

I would be willing to participate. I can limit myself to my forces on Earth. Just because we have spaceships doesn't mean I do all my combating in space. I still have an army, navy, and air force and have RPed well with modern nations in the past. If you want I can provide a link to a very good example I had a couple of months ago. In fact, I even got showed up by the modern tech side of the conflict a few months ago. We merely agreed before no heavy space technology and no nuclear arsenals employed, and it went just fine. I think you could work something like that out with this. After all, some of us supposedly, and I quote, "uber-death bad RPing space nations" still have just bullets for our infantry. And some of our air forces can still have a challenge given to it by a modern air force of F-14 or MiG based air force.

Fine Valinon...

Now since Raevyn you seem to be the only one who has actually looked at this thread more than anyone, i believe we could start. Here's a scenario. Okay lets pretend theres a weak and small republic island off you coast. Well Amerigo goes in and purchases half the island from the president who is actaully a dictator and the elections are a sham. Now Amerigo starts building a top secret facility there that gets your nation worrying for its security. So you send a spy. And we begin from there?

Sounds good.

((OOC: Well, good luck, Amerigo =) Not to brag, but I think the Iraqstan civil war/Operation: Stairway to Heaven storyline the ToY and NDA are working on is pretty high-class stuff, too ^_^ ))

Sounds good.
I started here... http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=98583

I'm still in... if you can actually see me lol

OOC: Now this is just my idea for an extra incident should it be required and I'm not saying I want to be involved but lets just say I wouldn't be against a role in some capacity.

Anyway, my idea goes as such: A large national oil company in nation X finds reports of significant oil deposits (large enough to warrant big investment) now the only problem is that these oil deposits extend across the border of two nations or more whatever, so the oil company from nation X starts drilling but other oil companies from nations A & B decide that seeing as how these deposits extend in to their country that they should be drilling them as well.
Now the way it extends in to a big debate is when a ruling is wanted by one of the oil companies to have exclusive access to the oil regardless of national boundries, obviously something like that can't just be decided by a regular court hearing as it's a matter of borders.
So talks have to take place between the nations as well as the companies - possibly.

So that's my idea it fits the "doesn't have to end in war" requirement and it's pretty open to adaption for any requirement.

And whats more I don't think we really need ideas now... We kind of need a list of people who are willing to participate...
I'm in if the opportunity presents itself. Tropical island, is it? Some minor geography tweaking could put me in a good position to get involved as a peacekeeper.

Brotherhood of Nod, you better not start experimenting on catgirls again. Remember, in my first war, where my forces (in conjunction with commandos from Raevyn) attacked your nation. I still have the treaty we signed somewhere on my computer... in it you promised to stop experimenting on catgirls.

Anyway, right after that short little thing was over, my troops set a course straight for Amerigo.

Brotherhood of Nod, you better not start experimenting on catgirls again. Remember, in my first war, where my forces (in conjunction with commandos from Raevyn) attacked your nation. I still have the treaty we signed somewhere on my computer... in it you promised to stop experimenting on catgirls.

Anyway, right after that short little thing was over, my troops set a course straight for Amerigo.

Ooh... that might be a nice reason for hostilities to break out...

I would definitely join this war. It could be a BDI thing.

Brotherhood of Nod, you better not start experimenting on catgirls again. Remember, in my first war, where my forces (in conjunction with commandos from Raevyn) attacked your nation. I still have the treaty we signed somewhere on my computer... in it you promised to stop experimenting on catgirls.

Anyway, right after that short little thing was over, my troops set a course straight for Amerigo.

"Catgirls? Did I say anything about catgirls?"
*burns documents*
*orders clean-sweep of certain servers, just in case*
*orders execution of certain scientists and government employees*
"It's amazing how bad my memory is these days...I don't remember anything about that planeload of catgirls I bought from someone a few months ago for example..."

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Kane, Messiah of the Brotherhood of Nod, Puppetmaster of The Great Zebediah, Master Magician of the Rogue Nation of Annoying Bugs, Military Head of the Global Dominion Of Dictators Against Democracy and CEO of the Brotherhood Trade Corporation, member of the Corporate Coalition, member of the Arda Alliance.

You guys should still make a map/maps to show Raevyn, Dalton Island, Amerigo, or anywhere else fighting may occur. I look forward to reading your roleplay as I was a noob during the Amerigan Slave War and it was the first war rp I ever read.

[quote=The Brotherhood of Nod]I could also import some more catgirls for "scientific purposes" (read: nasty experiments), and we have a new slavery-like conflict.
Where did you get all those catgirls, anyways? :?

Please say something more than "I found them."


I bought them from people who claimed to have them :wink:

Or I might have cloned them :)

I bought them from people who claimed to have them :wink:

Or I might have cloned them :)
People whom you made up or met in dreams don't count. :wink:

One must have some in the first place in order to clone them. Unless you just grafted some cat ears onto a bunch of women. :P

Unless you just grafted some cat ears onto a bunch of women. :P
Maybe he mated a cat and a human... :shock: :oops:

If that's the case, he can experiment on them all he wants. :shock:

IIRC I did post once (could be 8 months ago by now) how I got them, they were wandering around my borders...or they washed on my beaches somewhere, or someone else's and then I bought them, I don't remember that really.