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Nations of the Galaxy
You are hearby invited to attend the Interplanetary Summit, a confrence in which I hope that many issues will be resolved, and hopefully put into effect.
Basicaly, this will be a meeting of representatives from whomever should choose to attend. If you are incapable of reaching the summit, and wish to attend, transport will be provided for you. Nations of all types, modern, future, or past, are welcome to attend. There will be seperate meetings for each, and a final meeting for all to attend. Each will, of course, deal with issues relavent to their own time period, and the final meeting will deal with issues of a grand scale, which will hopefully be benificial to all of the Galaxies inhabitants.
Of course, those from outside this Galaxy are quite welcome to attend. It is merely assumed that most of its attendies will be from the 'local' area.

Issues are to be presented one at a time, each nation will (again, hopefully) have its issues resolved, and fitted to the needs and wants of the nations it affects.

The summit is to be held outside DGNT Intersystem Spaceport.
If your anatomical/gravetic needs prohibit you from coming, you are welcome to attend via viewscreen or droid. If you are prohibited by said needs, and want to attend in-being, then we will attempt to make arrangements to suit your species, unless you can yourself provide them.

We are fully willing to send an representative to this summit.

~King Alern

We will send a representative to this summit.

I will sent a representative, just don't mind the Evirosuit, the Zoir atmspehre has some gases in it that are concidered highly poisionious to humans.

~Emperor Gernx.

I will sent a representative, just don't mind the Evirosuit, the Zoir atmspehre has some gases in it that are concidered highly poisionious to humans.

~Emperor Gernx.

If delegation of the Nations of the Galaxy are requested for the purpose of resolving issues we would be more than happy to send a colonial delegate for we have no large capital on this side of the Milky way Galaxy.

Also if it is needed we would be more than happy to send some complimentary starcruisers to transport delegation fromm other worlds.

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Welcome all, and thank you for coming.
Looks like this might be the Futuretech Summit, but I suppose thats because of the 'interplanetary' in the title.

I would like to begin by reiterating the fact that there is an ever present threat of planetary dictatorships, currently on my pluto colony i have upwards of 3/4 of my offensive force defending over 10 small to large attacks daily.

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Well unlike others here we are not Intersellar or galaxic powers we just have few hundred million people living in space colonies, half on the edge of the Sol sytem and half the Colonies being halfway between Jupter and earth but we will send repsentative.

~Queen Seria

I would like to begin by reiterating the fact that there is an ever present threat of planetary dictatorships, currently on my pluto colony i have upwards of 3/4 of my offensive force defending over 10 small to large attacks daily.

Well, since most of the 'great powers' of nationstates are dictatorships, and planetary dictatorships at that, there is not much that can be done to them.
DGNT itself is a dictatorship, though a 'mostly benevolent' one, its leader acts more like a president than a king, since there are enough people to defeat the army, and most of our space fleet is elsewhere. Descisions are usualy made unilateraly, but with the 'consent of the people'. IE: The government takes a poll and the president decides to sign it into law or not.
But anyway, lets not get into forms of government.
The best way to deal with these attacks would be to join an alliance, DGNT is the head of the Galactic Defence Alliance, there are few requirments for joining, except the 100 mil. pop, which may be a problem for you.
You could join as a 'protectorate', since you apparently are a dedicated NSer who will not go to war unjustly, I grant you permission to do so, link to this thread and quote this message as evidence. As a protectorate you will not be able to hold any office or rank, but you will accumulate posts in the activity monitor, and will, once you reach 100 mil. be admited as a full member with your appropriat rank.

I was suggesting that we develop a federation to protect each other and fellow member nations from certain attacks against out world from the dictatorships. Also we should have that federation lead a fight against universal dictatorships.

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I would hope you are not calling an Monarchy a dictatorship other than that other an a few cases, I wasn't aware dictatorships were that common.

~King Alern Tor Asha

Well, that depends on the type of monarchy. If you took over by force, then you are pretty much a dictator, if you were elected, then its not, if its hereditary, then its a dictatorship.
Basicaly, if the people dont have a choice of who leads, its a dictatorship.
But again, lets not get into forms of government.
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Good Idea because it could get very confusing when it comes to monarchies opposed to dicatorships and the types of both.

~King Alern

Our Secretary of Foreign Affairs will attend.

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The Imperial Navy will send a Shuttle to this summit.

We will send Forigen affairs minister Elvis Costello to this summit. As well as a few robots.

The Imperial Principality of Taka will be sending a delegation to this conference.

We will attend the conference if Soviet Trasa attends. There is an issue we need to work out with them.

*some mumbling, then TGI Bob appears*
"Yes, I too shall be sending a delegate to this conference..."
"But Bob, I reeeeely don't want to go..."
"Tough, you are. As I was saying, I shall be sending General Whang..."
"But I have more important things to do, like blowing people up..."
"I'm sure Fred can handle it just fine...Anyway, General Whang will be attending this conference, in the Blue Horizon...Now could someone transmit co-ordinates and he shall depart soon."

Our Space Minister shall attend to this meeting. This will be our first reunion out of the UN.

When will the summit actually begin?

I suppos it already has.

Since the matter of Interplanetary Dictatorships seems to have been resolved, DGNT asks this question.

Is it technologicaly advanced cultures duty to find and 'uplift' other cultures to space travel, or is it our duty to preserve them in their current state and allow them to achieve space travel on their own? Or, maybe, both, depending on observations, or needs of a species. For if we take the first choice, we risk unleashing species' with angry streaks several light years long. But if we take the second choice, we are faced with the descision of when it is 'moral' to intervene. Say a species of near-FTL aliens live on a world about to be struck by a huge meteor, with almost certain doom in front of them, is it 'moral' to simply leave them? After all, they may be insanly aggressive once they achieve FTL travel, for some reason or other.

So, do we help, ignore, or choose?

Don't give them the ability to destroy, just to fly.

~Pluto

The Zoir has a dozen or so races that are protectorates of the Zoir Imperalium, either because they have only solar space travel, no space travel, or need to be protected from their more powerful nations. We hold for primative cultures they need to be protected from more advanced races, expecally some of the agressive ones that exist in the Dora sector of the Galaxy. As for if the planet the race is on going to be destroye... move them to another planet and let them devolop on that planet.

~Grand Admiral Kurnxi

Any non-FTL race should be brought up to par. By remaining bound to one planet they are missing out on opportunities. And besides, any aggressive race that has just accomplished FTL travel will still be easy to destroy.

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I don't think that it is the duty of advanced nations to bring the past and modern natons up to par, so to speak. If they need help or want us to assist them, that's different.

~Pluto

Pre FLT Alien races should be left alone unless its to save them from being enslaved or wiped out.

I think we should give nations FTL capability if they are in danger of being destroyed by some other nation and cannot defend themselves. I also think we should give pacifist nations FTL, but not to nazi or fascist nations.

PreFTL Aliens races should be traded with and thats about it.

I must concure, the nation of Taka has taken a very critical look at pre FTL alien races, and we belive that they should not be handed a loaded gun in this matter. Where a need for them to migrate to anouther star system ever come up for them, we belive that all FTL nations should provide transport, but not the technology to acheive this method of travel.

His Majesty Emperor Gustav Alderman I of the United Star Empire of Valinon wishes to send a representative to the talks. We apologize for the inconvenience of the tardiness of our delegate.

Sincerely,
Count Viktor Leopold
First Minister for His Majesty's Foreign Affairs

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Another issue at hand, one which affects our nation personally, is that of piracy. As I see it, there are two distinct piracy problems. The first is that of Martian piracy. That has not been a probblem for us, possible another representative could enlighten us. The second is that of the piracy that takes place on the galactic fringe. Sol was recently the victim of an attack by this organization. They were repelled, but it is suspected that they have installations in the Oort cloud and possible the Kuiper Belt.

The major problem on the galaxic scale is the Zoir Warlords, they are making it so even trade convoys with light miltary excort are not safe. They wiped out a independant trading outpost on the edge of the Sol system along with the Million people living there as well a a mining colony in the astroid belt. They have launched 3 Major months long Pirating champians agaist the Sol system it self and are a deadly problem everywhere else in the Galaxy.

Incoming transmission...

DGNT Intersystem Spaceport, this is Captain Jacques Galata of the Pantocratorian starship HIMS Justinian. His Most Catholic and Imperial Majesty the Emperor Andreus of Pantocratoria has asked me to act as Pantocratoria's voice at the conference being held near your location. Please confirm whether we are welcome or not.

Justinian out.

The major problem on the galaxic scale is the Zoir Warlords, they are making it so even trade convoys with light miltary excort are not safe. They wiped out a independant trading outpost on the edge of the Sol system along with the Million people living there as well a a mining colony in the astroid belt. They have launched 3 Major months long Pirating champians agaist the Sol system it self and are a deadly problem everywhere else in the Galaxy.

A group that we are not familiar with, I'm happy to say.

((I'm talking about the "Piracy on the Galactic Fringe" thread))

Your lucky, their some of the worse pirates in the Galaxy, causing trouble all over the Galaxy, They are currently raiding the Sol System for the third time, the first time the warlord behind it was wiped out, the second time they got stomped by that allance of nations around Saturn and this time they are in force. It seems there are to many pirates both in the Sol system and across the Galaxy. Something should done about this. We got those Pirates around mars, that pirate group on the fringe and we got those Zoir Warlords all over the Galaxy causing problems for shiping of all nations.

((Ah, well theses been about three threads with the Zoir Warlords the other two I think got delated when they cleared out the older threads.))

We'd love to join you (what a nice invitation!)... shall we bring a casserole to contribute?

Well, now that were deep in discussion, DGNT will be serving the main course of the diplomatic dinnerish thing.
Salad anybody? Just in case Hells Bovines is watching, there wont be any meat other than some fish, and maybe a few crustations.
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About the pirate problem, have any of you ever thought of using Q-ships? They are military vessels disguised as merchant ships, they look identical to a regular civilian freighter, but usually have retractable weapons and military grade shields and propulsion systems. You could put one in among a convoy as a surprise for any attackers, or have it operate solo, providing a pretty tempting target.

I don't know about the Mars Pirates or those on the fringe, but the bloody Zoir Warlords been attacking with whole fleets of ships. The first convoy lost, ours which was on route to the astroid belt was escorted by Patrol Corvettes and the ships themselves had defensive weapons. You would need a powerful warship as a Q-ship and more than one.

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We would like to attend this conference.

We tried to solve this problem by creating an alliance that would work toward upholding the integrity of interstellar commerce. We called it the Interstellar Hanseatic League, where members would be able to defend interstellar commerce between each other by drawing on a pool of ships that could be volunteered by member nations. However, the idea never really caught on. It did have a forum for it, but all the members just went away after the formative stages. I think I am the only one left who remembers it.

There was also the commonwealth but that didn't last long either.

Commonwealth still technically exists, and I am its head for what it is worthy. I guess I might drudge up the membership list and tell people it is still out there.

Well I am a orginal member but I thought it was dead.

I don't know about the Mars Pirates or those on the fringe, but the bloody Zoir Warlords been attacking with whole fleets of ships. The first convoy lost, ours which was on route to the astroid belt was escorted by Patrol Corvettes and the ships themselves had defensive weapons. You would need a powerful warship as a Q-ship and more than one.

A Q-ship would have the advantage of surprise, and our Q-ships are quite powerful. They mount battlecruiser scale energy weapons, and have large missile magazines, but yes, they are more effective in groups.

A Kanuckistani Kitesfear-class destroyer has been placed on-station near the confrence to act as a relay with Kanuckistan's government.


"The Dominion of Kanuckistan has never had any problems with pirates, tho that likly has something to do with living in a tightly-controled star cluster just outside the milkyway, rapid-response forces with instantanious FTL, and the outfitting of many of our merchant ships with hand-me-down military hardware."

"However, we would be willing to assist other nations in dealing with their piracy problems; nothing ruins your day like a hostile Kanuckistani Thunderhead-class Superfortress apearing off your bow with multi-type FTL inhibitor fields fully powered. :twisted: "

That would likely because the the Pirates that could pull off some piracy there don't bother because theres richer pickings in the Milky Way. I would say all the nations here, like the Zoir, the Teritorans and many others have some extremely powerful warships and fleets, in fact our fleet is influnced by the Teritoran Space Forces. We could handle the Pirates but for their tactics, you can't respond to a distriss signal that never comes, you can't defend agaist attacking ships that you never saw before they strike unless you set an ambush which has been done a few times and they only fall for those so many times.