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[Live Report from CNN International News]

A few minutes ago Pope Ali I, the Pope of the Mezoprincapala Catholic Church announced to the pilgrims in St. Hagar Square in front of the massive Church of St. Hagar in the city of Salta that will serve as a refuge for Pope Ali I until the completion of the security network in St. Mary's in Avignon. The announcement was made in a speech he made for the Feast Day of St. Brandywine the Great, the first Pope-Apparent and the leader of the first break between Mezoprincapala and Rome.

[Feed swiches to recorded portions of the speech]

...Because that now our Most Holy Church has rejected the sinners of Rome and the evil False Pope John-Paul II our Holy Church of God shall send missionaries the worldover where people are free to practise religion without threats from evil nations like Teritora or Tordor and we shall save the souls of the peoples of all nations. Already missionaries have been sent to Rwanda and Ethiopia to save the souls of the people of those nations and Churchs are being built that will be Sacred to God and shall be the beginning of the Mezoprincapala Catholic Churches spread across the earth until was have Saved the World from the Evil One."

[Feed Goes back to studio]

"We will have a commentary about this after the break!"


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Prince Ryan uth Elood VI
The Principality of Mezoprincapala

As stated in the other thread:

"Any and all missionaries will be arrested and then send back. If they refuse to leave, they will be tried as radicals speaking out against the government and shot."

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Emperor Alexander Nemerov
Star Empire of Steel Butterfly,
In the Orion Sector which includes:
Steel Isle, Steel Moon,
CTaNbHaR Eabo4Ka, XIII,
Aeisis, Bivens, Esthar VIII
Orion Sector Alliance Premier,
Order of the Seraphim,
(Un-named Trade Consortium)

"Um sir another nation is sending missionaries."
"NOT JEHOVAH'S WITNESS!"
"No some other religous zealots."
"Good, if they come burn them."
"Yes sir, if they enter our border I'll allow the men to burn them."
"Thank you Ryan."

OOC- No ofense about the Jehovah's witness stuff. It's just where I live they come to my house daily to tell me to change my religion. They're so annoying.

Mezoprincapala cease and desist your most blatant act of heresy of against the true church or you will pay a grave price.

In a move that has surprised many members of the Ragnarok Apocalypse region, Prime Minister Chikita of The Republic of Kryozerkia has spoken out against Mezoprincapala's choice to send missionaries over to Steel Butterfly.

If this persists, we will move to support sanctions against Mezoprincapala for their blatant violation of the soverign nation of Steel Butterfly, which has the right to its religion and the choice to decide if it wants to follow organised religion or not. They have chosen not to, and that is their choice. You are in no position to say otherwise, even if you believe that they have taken the path to hell.

This also constitutes an act of war because, even though you are only sending in so-called 'religious officials', you are still trespassing on to their soverign territory with impure intentions. We ask that you cease and desist with your actions.

Kryozerkia: Has he said ANYTHING about Steel Butterfly? No so cool your jets and try to read the whole thing next time.

What is this heresy? Banning organised religion? You will all burn in hellfire for ever and ever!!!!


~Emperor Zachary
Appointed by GOD
The Holy Empire of The Imperial Church
Repend sinners, lest you burn in eternal fire!
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OOC: BNFW is right, have I said a single word about Steel Butterfly? No so stfu!

IC: "Missionaries of the True Catholic Church are meeting with great success in Rwanda and Ethiopia and we plan to extend our Missionary Projects into all willing nations willing to allow the spread of the True Teachings of God and His Holy Church."

Signed,
His Holiness, Pope Ali I

Banning organised religion is the choice of the government. We (as in Kryozerkia, do not speak on behalf of other nations, but our views may reflect that of others, if they do agree with us), believe that religion can impair the mental process because it can lead to a narrow-minded view of the world (see the def. of Secularism, which believes in the lack of any religion becaue religion interferes and blocks the mental process).

Though, how can we burn in hell, if there is no heaven or hell because we have decided to get rid of organised religion? If we do not believe in it. You can damn us until you're blue in the face/until the cows come home, but that won't change whatever choice each country makes.

Now, to Brave New Ford, we didn't jump the gun; we just noticed a striking coicidence between the timing of Steel Butterfly's announcement to renounce organised religion and the response by Mezoprincapala. Though, there is no direct statement, it comes across as being implied, or so was our interpretation when we brought it to the attention of the KKIA and Her Emninence.

Sincerely,

Senorit Chico
Minister of Freogn Affairs

OOC: BNFW is right, have I said a single word about Steel Butterfly?

No, there's a whole other thread about that.

No so stfu!

Now now...no need to let the world know you're immature

Mezoprincapala cease and desist your most blatant act of heresy of against the true church or you will pay a grave price.

Well I say its time to stomp them for their Heresy, wouldn't you say Belem. They Have been warned after all, by you, me and others. Well I am invading, after all my king alrightly declared war to put down the Heresy.

OOC: BNFW is right, have I said a single word about Steel Butterfly?

No, there's a whole other thread about that.

No so stfu!

Now now...no need to let the world know you're immature

Mezoprincapala cease and desist your most blatant act of heresy of against the true church or you will pay a grave price.

Well I say its time to stomp them for their Heresy, wouldn't you say Belem. They Have been warned after all, by you, me and others. Well I am invading, after all my king alrightly declared war to put down the Heresy.

That and they are about get a few hundred thousand church Solders and knights on what they feel as a holy Crusade agaist the Heretics. Thats even with out the kingdom of Teritora attacking.

~Queen Seria

We are currently forming a list of religions that will be allowed to be taught in Raysia. The official religion is Mormonism, but we are tolerant of other benevolent religions.

Here are some questions we want to ask you about your religion, and most specifically your missionaries:

What are your stances on common civil rights issues?

What is your stance on the accusations of child molestations by Catholic Church priests et cetera?

What is your stance on war?

What can we expect your missionaries to do when they arrive on our doorstep?

What are your opinions towards other religions (Are they going to hell?)

What is a Pope, and who brought him into power?

Who do you believe Jesus Christ was?

And a quick scenario question, completely Hypothetical: If someone were to threaten your religion or run you out of town with torches and rifles, what would your reaction be?

Thank you for your time. Upon answering these questions to a level we see fit, you will be given 500 Visa application forms for your missionaries.

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Your missionairies have received limited success in Thunderstraat; however, we have a very large Catholic population, and they're getting a little mad at you.

Mezoprincapala cease and desist your most blatant act of heresy of against the true church or you will pay a grave price.

Well I say its time to stomp them for their Heresy, wouldn't you say Belem. They Have been warned after all, by you, me and others. Well I am invading, after all my king alrightly declared war to put down the Heresy.

That and they are about get a few hundred thousand church Solders and knights on what they feel as a holy Crusade agaist the Heretics. Thats even with out the kingdom of Teritora attacking.

~Queen Seria

OOC: PEOPLE QUIT IT WITH THE WARMONGERING! Quit trying to interfer with how I Rp my nation.

Don't bother sending any to Jeruselem for their own safely. The local Catholics will <do nasty stuff> to them if they get the chance.

Mezoprincapala cease and desist your most blatant act of heresy of against the true church or you will pay a grave price.

Well I say its time to stomp them for their Heresy, wouldn't you say Belem. They Have been warned after all, by you, me and others. Well I am invading, after all my king alrightly declared war to put down the Heresy.

definatelly.

OOC:But Belem so you know, its more of a phony war and pretending to invade besides you got Tordoran rebels to fight. Mezoprincapala and I alrighty got an Idea what we are going to do between the two of us so don't invade Mezoprincapala, it will mess everything up and he will just ignore the whole thing.

OOC: I'm sorry I cot all pissy about it but I have been in too many wars where i got my ass beat. Perhaps a Cold War would be better between me and Belem.

You can send whoever you like, provided they follow the laws of Ravenspire while they're here. In particular, you should note that preaching to an individual or group that has indicated lack of interest may be constituted as harassment. Missionaries have the freedom of speech, but not the freedom to force others to listen.

We don't expect you'll receive many converts, since the majority of our population is not terribly religious, and those who do profess strong beliefs tend to follow Buddhist or animist philosophies. About 5% of the population follows a Christian sect.

Raye Forrester
Minister of State

We are currently forming a list of religions that will be allowed to be taught in Raysia. The official religion is Mormonism, but we are tolerant of other benevolent religions.

Here are some questions we want to ask you about your religion, and most specifically your missionaries:

What are your stances on common civil rights issues?

What is your stance on the accusations of child molestations by Catholic Church priests et cetera?

What is your stance on war?

What can we expect your missionaries to do when they arrive on our doorstep?

What are your opinions towards other religions (Are they going to hell?)

What is a Pope, and who brought him into power?

Who do you believe Jesus Christ was?

And a quick scenario question, completely Hypothetical: If someone were to threaten your religion or run you out of town with torches and rifles, what would your reaction be?

Thank you for your time. Upon answering these questions to a level we see fit, you will be given 500 Visa application forms for your missionaries.

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Just ignore Belem...

Just ignore Belem...

You make it sound like a walk in the park...

Just ignore Belem...

You make it sound like a walk in the park...ooc: Sure a heck of a lot easier than trying to fight a war against him :)

Just ignore Belem...

You make it sound like a walk in the park...ooc: Sure a heck of a lot easier than trying to fight a war against him :)

ooc: hmn, very good point you make.

To Ravenspire,

None the less we shall send them and build Churches in your nation, we are a peaceful faith and will force no one into our faith.

~Pope Ali I

To Raysia,

I will do my best to answer the following.

The Church and the State should be as separate as possible in order to ensure that religion can be free of political corruption but it must speak out about topics of the times and have a stance on issues that have a bearing on people's lives, but we do respect a nations right to rule as it sees fit so as long as they do not abuse their people.

Child Molestation is a sin and it is an evil, the Roman Catholic Church has been in the wrong to protect such people and allow them to continue as Priests. In the event that we learn of such a person in our church we turn them into the authorities to investigate and if found guilty will be defrocked.

War is almost always a very bad thing and a sin in God's Eyes (unless the war is fought for a Just Cause; ex. Overthrow of a tyrant or the liberation of people being massacred (AKA: Holocaust)). Our Church Priest's are pacifists and as such are not fighters.

The missionaries will arange the construction of Mezoprincapalian Catholic Churches in your nation and our Missionaries will work quietly and respectfully among your population to convert willing people to our Church.

The Three Main Faiths of the Book (Judaism, Islam, Christianity) hold the truth of God. All othes are distortions of the truth and must be Saved from their error lest they lead others into hell.

The Pope is the head of God's Earthly Church and the head of all the Orders of the True Catholic Church (otherwise called the Mezoprincapala Catholic Church). As the Pope is a man however he is capable of making an error as God gave to Adam and Eve free will to weave their own fates however God will not allow an errorneous desicion of a Pope (either by accident or design) to remain forever uncorrected. The Pope is usualy Chosen by the Counsel of Cardinals in Avignon (but for emergencies the Pope is residing in the city of Salta).

We believe that Jesus was the Son of God and is apart of the Holy Trinity of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. (Unlike Rome we believe that Mary was only the Mother of Jesus and not a part of the Trinity in her own right).

If we were attacked we would pray that God deliver us from the evil the People could fight if they wished to but as Priests we are both students and teachers of God's Teachings, not soldiers.

~Pope Ali I

Just ignore Belem...

You make it sound like a walk in the park...ooc: Sure a heck of a lot easier than trying to fight a war against him :)

OOC: because I would win easily.

Mezoprincapala- Very well stated... although, we are still undecided. One final question. What does your church teach/feel about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints? (Mormons)

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Our Church has yet to take a stance as two different Counsels were held about the authenticity of the Book of Mormon and both Counsels offered contradictory findings. I have ordered a new third investigation to be held that will settle the matter and it is nearly concluded and will announce it's findings.

~Pope Ali I

Our Church has yet to take a stance as two different Counsels were held about the authenticity of the Book of Mormon and both Counsels offered contradictory findings. I have ordered a new third investigation to be held that will settle the matter and it is nearly concluded and will announce it's findings.

~Pope Ali IWell, as long as you aren't as troublesome as the baptists (Which we banned because they wouldn't stop protesting our churches and littering the streets with anti-mormon propoganda and started riots and had funded programs that taught people lies about mormonism...) then you should be fine! Your 500 initial visa applications have been sent, and they will be replied to when we get them. BHope to hear your message!

By the way, speaking of that, one more question out of curiousity, if you do have a main message to share, what is that message?

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Now now...no need to let the world know you're immature
Here we have a supposedly experienced RPer spamming a younger nation's thread. Who's immature?

Now now...no need to let the world know you're immature
Here we have a supposedly experienced RPer spamming a younger nation's thread. Who's immature?

That's a good question! I KNOW THE ANSWER!! *waves hand around in air* oooo! ooo! Pick me teacher, I'm ever so smart! ;) Actually, it would be the more experienced one because they are setting a bad example for the younger nation.

The message that we have is the same one held by all true Christians, Jesus is Resurrected and is the Son of God and the Salvation of Mankind. There is no other message I or anyone else needs.

~Pope Ali I

The message that we have is the same one held by all true Christians, Jesus is Resurrected and is the Son of God and the Salvation of Mankind. There is no other message I or anyone else needs.

~Pope Ali I

The message that we have is the same one held by all true Christians, Jesus is Resurrected and is the Son of God and the Salvation of Mankind. There is no other message I or anyone else needs.

~Pope Ali IWell then what makes your church different from the others? What is the... "thesis" of your church?

The message that we have is the same one held by all true Christians, Jesus is Resurrected and is the Son of God and the Salvation of Mankind. There is no other message I or anyone else needs.

~Pope Ali IWell then what makes your church different from the others? What is the... "thesis" of your church?

Ooooooo!!! Good question...

Yeah, what makes your church so special, that you think you have the right to go and preach to others, telling them how to live and what is the true path?

The message that we have is the same one held by all true Christians, Jesus is Resurrected and is the Son of God and the Salvation of Mankind. There is no other message I or anyone else needs.

~Pope Ali IWell then what makes your church different from the others? What is the... "thesis" of your church?

Ooooooo!!! Good question...

Yeah, what makes your church so special, that you think you have the right to go and preach to others, telling them how to live and what is the true path?Yes, tell us at least one thing that your church has that other churches don't.

The Mezoprincapalan Church has the dubious privilege of having one unique thing to offer you which no other church can offer - a schismatic "pope" elected in Avignon who has been excommunicated by the Catholic Church. We don't say this to be petty, just rest assured that the Mezoprincapalan Church is unique from all other churches which consider themselves to be Catholic.

Jacques Cardinal Conomos
Archbishop of New Rome

OOC: The traditions of the MCC are different in that they are more "desert themed" and are more modern than the traditions of Rome (for example the MCC has declared the Bible to of been of Divine Origin but since written by the human hand to be filled with a few "clerical errors" that will be exposed in time (and some already have, ex. the portions of the Bible that allow for slavery).

I repeat the question, what is the mesage that you give people that is different from every other church? What makes your church special?

For instance, ours is special because we are the only church on the Earth with Apostles and a living Prophet, and we claim to receive direct revelation from God, and build our religion on that foundation.

What is your "Thesis Statement?"

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I don't think they have one. Most Christian churches are alike. Only Mormonism, the TRUE church, is worth sending missionairies for.

Funny I never concidered the Mormans christians, they are about as christian as the muslims or the jews. I'd let sooner let muslims into the country and jews are weclome in Teritora, they make up 25% of the Population.

King Alern.

Funny I never concidered the Mormans christians, they are about as christian as the muslims or the jews. I'd let sooner let muslims into the country and jews are weclome in Teritora, they make up 25% of the Population.

King Alern.If by "Christian" you mean spun off from the Catholic church, then of course we're not christian. We are the restoration of the church Christ brought to this Earth when he was mortal.

Funny I never concidered the Mormans christians, they are about as christian as the muslims or the jews. I'd let sooner let muslims into the country and jews are weclome in Teritora, they make up 25% of the Population.

King Alern.

We share the same sentiments ...

Hear hear! Situation is well in hand? No need for us to crush these heretics beneath our shiny metal boots?

And who said mormons were Christian? Only Catholics are Christian... and Orthodox people too, if you must.
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Cardinal Johannes Richelieu
Senior Cardinal within Roania
Member of Electoral College
Minister for Theocratic matters

OOC: Any word on that Catholic Alliance, HLE?

Funny I never concidered the Mormans christians, they are about as christian as the muslims or the jews. I'd let sooner let muslims into the country and jews are weclome in Teritora, they make up 25% of the Population.

King Alern.

We share the same sentiments ...Well, why would you treat these "Mormans" :roll: any differently?

*note: Baptistism is very much illegal in Raysia :P*

OOC: I already gave it to you.

OOC: I already gave it to you.OOC: he wants an IC Reply. And you didn't really answer his question, all you did was say that you don't believe in some parts of the bible. he wants to know what makes your church special, and why it was founded.

OOC: I already gave it to you.OOC: he wants an IC Reply. And you didn't really answer his question, all you did was say that you don't believe in some parts of the bible. he wants to know what makes your church special, and why it was founded.

OOC: I gave you an IC answer as to why the Mezoprincapalan Church is unique, you know.

OOC: I already gave it to you.OOC: he wants an IC Reply. And you didn't really answer his question, all you did was say that you don't believe in some parts of the bible. he wants to know what makes your church special, and why it was founded.

OOC: I've given it a hundred times already!

OOC: I already gave it to you.OOC: he wants an IC Reply. And you didn't really answer his question, all you did was say that you don't believe in some parts of the bible. he wants to know what makes your church special, and why it was founded.

OOC: I've given it a hundred times already!

OOC:Aren't you going to post in the Sword Against Machine Gun; Holy War Between the Faiths thread Mezoprincapala, both fleets are in your Teritoral waters and aproaching the coast.