The Empire Officially Denounces Organized Religion
Steel Butterfly
25-11-2003, 21:22
Nemerov walked to the podium. Taking a drink of water, he began.
"Throughout humanity’s history, the role of gods has always been important. Whether they served as the deities of the Hindu religion, or the single God of Judaism and Christianity, the use of such super natural powers explained the unexplainable: nature’s dominion over mankind. As the human mind grew and explored its planet; it grew angry and restless over the inconsistency between scientific find and their God’s rationale. The silence of their Gods also disturbed them. It is from this silence that one should assume the existence of an indifferent God, a philosopher’s god. One that may or may not have created the heavens and earth, but has no ear for humanity and therefore no control over its actions or the world that it encases.
These truths are to be considered: Humanity has faced war after war on the topic of whose God is the most righteous, whose God is the most holy and the most right. The blood of men, women, and children alike has been spilt over and over again on whether their conviction to the Lord is truthful or not. Genocide and massacre has been pressed upon millions because their God is the wrong God, the blood in their veins is mud in the eyes of another supernatural being, and yet what gifts have these Gods brought to humanity in the past few eras. The misunderstanding of the Jewish race, the forced Christianization of people in foreign lands resulting in the loss of culture and heritage that has stemmed for thousands of years through time. In an ever modernizing world, people are becoming less and less genuine with their connection to their faith. Convoluted are the messages of religion when children cannot be subjected to the raw facts of their faith but instead are told things like, “other Gods are wrong,” and “children of other beliefs will go to Hell,” but “Be happy because you are saved.” Is it not right to love all, and forgive many?
We are all guilty of giving hate instead of love.
We are all guilty of not whole-heartedly forgiving the actions of others, whether they be against us or not.
Guilty of rejecting others views without even trying to understand them.
Guilty of hating because of outward appearance or belief.
Guilty of prejudice.
Guilty of inflicting pain.
Taking sides.
The moral conscience that beats within each and every human heart cannot be tamed by a religion. As time passes such disciplines disappear in the place of what was sinful. We declare that in place of the prejudices established by separate religions, the hate and hardship, confusion and convoluted messages be replaced by the common interest of humanity. The bonds that bind are there because of each and every heart that beats with human passion and love.
We hereby declare that in place of an angry god, a benevolent god, a sad god, that a god of indifference come to play so that for once humans can hear the silent yet constant desire to unite and live just happily. Altercations are realistic, but through the natural course of the human mind, making amends is as well.
The unknown is mostly found. It sits before us, and an ancient God’s rationale for why it is there is not needed.
The unknown lies within. It is the anger and passion of the human being. It’s the bonds the bind.
Break.
And bind again. Humanity’s God lies within itself."
Without another word, the Emperor slowly retreated back towards the exit of the stage.
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Emperor Alexander Nemerov
Star Empire of Steel Butterfly,
In the Orion Sector which includes:
Steel Isle, Steel Moon,
CTaNbHaR Eabo4Ka, XIII,
Aeisis, Bivens, Esthar VIII
Orion Sector Alliance Premier,
Order of the Seraphim,
(Un-named Trade Consortium)
Syskeyia
25-11-2003, 21:26
The Republic of Syskeyia hereby breaks all ties it ever had with Steel Butterfly.
God bless,
The Republic of Syskeyia
Steel Butterfly
25-11-2003, 22:14
BUMP!
EDITED: If you truly knew your God, you would dismiss this notion as easily as we. We strongly urge you to stop interfering with organized religion, because some belief systems require organization.
Steel Butterfly
26-11-2003, 00:02
OOC: I sure hope that post was IC
The Mezoprincapala Catholic Church shall begin to send Missionaries to Steel Butterfly to save the souls of it's people so that they may gain heaven and the True Word of God through the True Catholic Church.
~Pope Ali I
Steel Butterfly
26-11-2003, 00:20
"Any and all missionaries will be arrested and then send back. If they refuse to leave, they will be tried as radicals speaking out against the government and shot."
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Emperor Alexander Nemerov
Star Empire of Steel Butterfly,
In the Orion Sector which includes:
Steel Isle, Steel Moon,
CTaNbHaR Eabo4Ka, XIII,
Aeisis, Bivens, Esthar VIII
Orion Sector Alliance Premier,
Order of the Seraphim,
(Un-named Trade Consortium)
OOC: I sure hope that post was ICOOC: yes, it was. I'm not gonna debate general forum stuff ion these forums lol
Clonetopia
26-11-2003, 00:28
Congratulation to Emperor Nemerov on his wise decision.
~Emperor Radassat
The Interplanetary Empire of Clonetopia (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2135754)
http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/clonetopia.jpg (http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/sega/genesis/Winged_Fortress.mid)
Steel Butterfly
26-11-2003, 00:29
OOC: I sure hope that post was ICOOC: yes, it was. I'm not gonna debate general forum stuff ion these forums lol
:P OOC: Good
Kryozerkia
26-11-2003, 00:42
Though we do not plan to do this ourselves, we applaud the move by Steel butterfly; ity's your country, therefore you do what is right for your people, and if you believe that taking this approach to religion is what it takes, then you have the support of Kyrozerkia and her sisters.
Her Emninence
Prime Minister Chikita
"Any and all missionaries will be arrested and then send back. If they refuse to leave, they will be tried as radicals speaking out against the government and shot."
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Emperor Alexander Nemerov
Star Empire of Steel Butterfly,
In the Orion Sector which includes:
Steel Isle, Steel Moon,
CTaNbHaR Eabo4Ka, XIII,
Aeisis, Bivens, Esthar VIII
Orion Sector Alliance Premier,
Order of the Seraphim,
(Un-named Trade Consortium)We would like to ask acception for missionaries from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. We understand your recent denouncal of Organized religion, but we are unclear whether or not we can still send Missionaries. If you will not allow Proselyting (sp) may we just send them to answer questions for curious people and serve your community?
If the answer to both is no, then we will not send any.
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Though we do not plan to do this ourselves, we applaud the move by Steel butterfly; ity's your country, therefore you do what is right for your people, and if you believe that taking this approach to religion is what it takes, then you have the support of Kyrozerkia and her sisters.
Her Emninence
Prime Minister ChikitaI hope you realize though, if Belem or Roania ever find out someone banned Catholicism, they'll invade :P They threatened me with that when I tried to close our borders to practically every religion except Mormonism :P
Kryozerkia
26-11-2003, 01:30
Though we do not plan to do this ourselves, we applaud the move by Steel butterfly; ity's your country, therefore you do what is right for your people, and if you believe that taking this approach to religion is what it takes, then you have the support of Kyrozerkia and her sisters.
Her Emninence
Prime Minister ChikitaI hope you realize though, if Belem or Roania ever find out someone banned Catholicism, they'll invade :P They threatened me with that when I tried to close our borders to practically every religion except Mormonism :P
They can try if they want, but they will be met by a wall of avowedly atheistic people, who do not wish to be converted by Bibble-wielding whacko extremist fanatics.
If Beleem or Roania do try to invade, their forces will be stopped by the KKIA (Kryozerkian Central Intelligence Agency, High Command and State Police), taken prisoner and executed without trial. However, we do not wish for war, but we will not be pushed around by them.
Anyway, thank you, Raysia for the heads up.
Though we do not plan to do this ourselves, we applaud the move by Steel butterfly; ity's your country, therefore you do what is right for your people, and if you believe that taking this approach to religion is what it takes, then you have the support of Kyrozerkia and her sisters.
Her Emninence
Prime Minister ChikitaI hope you realize though, if Belem or Roania ever find out someone banned Catholicism, they'll invade :P They threatened me with that when I tried to close our borders to practically every religion except Mormonism :P
They can try if they want, but they will be met by a wall of avowedly atheistic people, who do not wish to be converted by Bibble-wielding whacko extremist fanatics.
If Beleem or Roania do try to invade, their forces will be stopped by the KKIA (Kryozerkian Central Intelligence Agency, High Command and State Police), taken prisoner and executed without trial. However, we do not wish for war, but we will not be pushed around by them.
Anyway, thank you, Raysia for the heads up.Heh, well try saying that to Roania's Twenty-Two Million Man army ;)
Kryozerkia
26-11-2003, 01:46
Though we do not plan to do this ourselves, we applaud the move by Steel butterfly; ity's your country, therefore you do what is right for your people, and if you believe that taking this approach to religion is what it takes, then you have the support of Kyrozerkia and her sisters.
Her Emninence
Prime Minister ChikitaI hope you realize though, if Belem or Roania ever find out someone banned Catholicism, they'll invade :P They threatened me with that when I tried to close our borders to practically every religion except Mormonism :P
They can try if they want, but they will be met by a wall of avowedly atheistic people, who do not wish to be converted by Bibble-wielding whacko extremist fanatics.
If Beleem or Roania do try to invade, their forces will be stopped by the KKIA (Kryozerkian Central Intelligence Agency, High Command and State Police), taken prisoner and executed without trial. However, we do not wish for war, but we will not be pushed around by them.
Anyway, thank you, Raysia for the heads up.Heh, well try saying that to Roania's Twenty-Two Million Man army ;)
...well, at least I don't have a very tiny country, otherwise I'd be screwed. I have a big enough population to meet force with force.
Steel Butterfly
26-11-2003, 01:53
"Open my empire to Mormons? Sorry...but did you not listen to my speech? The Empire is not accepting any religions, let alone a half assed one started by a banished rapist."
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Emperor Alexander Nemerov
Star Empire of Steel Butterfly,
In the Orion Sector which includes:
Steel Isle, Steel Moon,
CTaNbHaR Eabo4Ka, XIII,
Aeisis, Bivens, Esthar VIII
Orion Sector Alliance Premier,
Order of the Seraphim,
(Un-named Trade Consortium)
OOC: Post completely IC
Thunderstraat
26-11-2003, 01:55
The Star Empire of Thunderstraat condemns your resolution, but not very loudly; you're a lot bigger than us.
((OOC: that's cool, yet another Mormon on NS))
We are prepared to send our famed Missionary Corps* into your nation as soon as you reverse this decision.
*The Thunderstraat Missionary Corps is a group of volunteer Mormons, Catholics, Muslims, Jehovah's Witness', and Baptists (to give the people a broad selection, of course we hope they'll pick LDS)
"Open my empire to Mormons? Sorry...but did you not listen to my speech? The Empire is not accepting any religions, let alone a half assed one started by a banished rapist."
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Emperor Alexander Nemerov
Star Empire of Steel Butterfly,
In the Orion Sector which includes:
Steel Isle, Steel Moon,
CTaNbHaR Eabo4Ka, XIII,
Aeisis, Bivens, Esthar VIII
Orion Sector Alliance Premier,
Order of the Seraphim,
(Un-named Trade Consortium)
OOC: Post completely ICOOC: Good thing that was IC or I'd have to smack you.
IC: *smack*
j/k
IC: *No reply*
Kryozerkia
26-11-2003, 02:08
"Open my empire to Mormons? Sorry...but did you not listen to my speech? The Empire is not accepting any religions, let alone a half assed one started by a banished rapist."
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Emperor Alexander Nemerov
Star Empire of Steel Butterfly,
In the Orion Sector which includes:
Steel Isle, Steel Moon,
CTaNbHaR Eabo4Ka, XIII,
Aeisis, Bivens, Esthar VIII
Orion Sector Alliance Premier,
Order of the Seraphim,
(Un-named Trade Consortium)
OOC: Post completely IC
How wonderful! We are pleased to hear that. We will be happy to back you.
Old narn
26-11-2003, 02:13
While the country of Old Narn is not religious at all, we disagree with your banning of all organized religions. We of Old Narn believe that to ban a religion would be tantamount to banning a political party, which we would never do. Instead, we try through public education to make sure that none of our people are suspectibe to the irrational beliefs of religion.
Steel Butterfly
26-11-2003, 02:13
IC: *smack*
*smacks you back for not posting in the Warheit thread lately*
Holland gives a response finaly:
"Well, we are sorry to hear that you guys are reverting back to the natural law. If this is 'progression,' then notifdy us when you evolve into apes." :mrgreen:
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http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/rsig5.jpg (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=88120)
OOC: Give me someplace to jump in, I'm just a side character right now ^_^ Oh well, probably won't post there tonight, got a bunch of stuff to do.
Steel Butterfly
26-11-2003, 02:33
OOC: If you take advantage of it, you could go on a type of rescue mission currently...if not though...
Abu-Dhabi Khristatata
26-11-2003, 02:47
Frankly, Mr. Nemerov, without God you cannot be an Emporer. Emporer's rule because their right to rule is ordained and granted by God, without that, they have no right to rule. If you were a republic this would be different, but for all monarchies, they rule because God ordains them, unless you use the Polish-Lithuanian system of electing the heir.
Without this, anyone can claim to be Emporer after you are dead, Mr. Nemerov.
--Emporer Adendhel I
Steel Butterfly
26-11-2003, 03:44
"My poor child, I came to be Emperor the most unorthodox way in Steel Butterfly history. I overthrew the Emperor before me who was ruining the nation. "God" did not assist me," Nemerov said, shaking his head. "No...I murdered a man, an evil man, but murder none the less...and then I pardoned myself. Getting past that, I have done quite an excellent job as Emperor, bringing Steel Butterfly into great and never-ending prosperous times. As for anyone claiming the thrown, once again Mr. Adendhel you are mistaken. We have a well established order of secession for if the Emperor dies. This has been handled well in every instance of that happening in history...minus my own. I am Emperor on my own right and that of the people...not some childhood fairy tail. "God"...some people get over pretend friends at a very young age...others it takes a lifetime...perhaps longer."
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Emperor Alexander Nemerov
Star Empire of Steel Butterfly,
In the Orion Sector which includes:
Steel Isle, Steel Moon,
CTaNbHaR Eabo4Ka, XIII,
Aeisis, Bivens, Esthar VIII
Orion Sector Alliance Premier,
Order of the Seraphim,
(Un-named Trade Consortium)
Abu-Dhabi Khristatata
26-11-2003, 03:50
Mhmm... yes you have ruled Steel Butterfly fairly well. Train your heirs to be strong and wise, lest the people rebel and overthrow your dynasty.
--Adnedhel