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Threads influencing the NS recession, a summary

25-11-2003, 18:26
Below will be a summary of the threads relating (or possibly influencing) the NS recession as primarily caused by recent UN developments. Please feel free to centralize the discussion relating to these events here, and posting any links I might have missed or that are created in the coming hours.

Initial responses of various nations
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=96958

Thelas looking to invest in Knootoss
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97047

Ravenspire acquires Hell
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=96217

Underaloz leaving UN, struck by recession
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97049

Tarasovka outlaws Fastfood
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=96392

Tanah Burung struck by recession
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97040

Wombat News news concerning the topic
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97007

Xanthalian economy downgrading
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97018

TVC measures to counter recession
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=96993

Knootoss economy spinning out of control
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=96781

Daistallia withdraws fro UN due to labor resolution
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=83493

Lunatic Retarded Robots economy affected by recession
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97059

Cutthroat competition emerging
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97057

Five Civilized Nations respond to recession
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97065

Lietuveska State of economy severe
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2207346

Al Anbar stock market crashing?
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97335

Tor Yvresse offers investors a safe haven
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97105

Roanian firms struck by recession
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=96947

Steel Butterfly unaffected by recent economic downfall
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97124

Lusaka's lunatic economy looses momentum:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=95936

Dra-pol's booming economy extends a helpful hand
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97357

Maraka takes countermeasures
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97368

Corporations in Tarasovka take measures
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97352

The recession as related to Zerni
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=95344
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97122

Stone River hit by the recession
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97134

Kasei in budget problems
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=93926
Tarasovka
25-11-2003, 18:27
My banning of Fast Foods contributed to global recession? :?

YAY! :D
Underaloz
25-11-2003, 18:28
Good call, this thread. :)
25-11-2003, 18:29
My banning of Fast Foods contributed to global recession? :?

YAY! :D

Of course. For instance, there is a nation called McCountry. Go figure :D
Santa Barbara
25-11-2003, 18:30
Bah. A few nations economies slump further into the slime from whence they came, and its a "global" recession?
Crimmond
25-11-2003, 18:30
Hmmm.... and through all that and three disasters, my nations economy is still doing okay. Well... the Crimmar did drop to only being four times the USD, but...
Biotopia
25-11-2003, 18:43
haha, enjoy your recession.
25-11-2003, 18:45
Bah. A few nations economies slump further into the slime from whence they came, and its a "global" recession?

Semi-global. It affects all UN nations, after all.
25-11-2003, 18:51
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97052

I mentioned that I solved the problem by bribing the stock market.
LOL!
25-11-2003, 18:52
Cutthroat competition emerging, literally
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97057
25-11-2003, 18:52
Economy in Lunatic Retarded Robots affected by recession
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97059
Daistallia
25-11-2003, 18:53
Daistallia withdraws fro UN due to laor resolution
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=83493[/i]

:shock: Certainly glad someone out there reads that. :D
Underaloz
25-11-2003, 18:53
(ooc: TVC, you should edit the first post and put the links in there ;) )
25-11-2003, 18:59
I did. Thanks for the advice.
Five Civilized Nations
25-11-2003, 19:00
My link http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2208491#2208491 --5CN worried about economic downturn...
Knootoss
25-11-2003, 20:09
#tag# and #bookmark#

Thank you Vortex for compiling this. ^_^
I think I may have started something. :P
Knootoss
25-11-2003, 20:32
Please add this one too...

Lietuveska State of economy severe

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2207346&highlight=#2207346
Zerni
25-11-2003, 20:39
You ever seen the Ruthless Market Place threads, in Zerni, Coprorations and even small companies litterally wage open war on each other and theres no regulations on businesses or even taraffs, very little income tax and about everything is legal in Zerni, piracy, kidnapings, assassinations, you name it they do it in Zerni.
The SLAGLands
25-11-2003, 20:41
OMG NOES! IT'S HAPPENING EVERYWHERE! (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97097)
26-11-2003, 09:50
Al Anbar stock market crashing?
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97335
26-11-2003, 09:53
Tor Yvresse offers investors a safe haven
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97105

(For those of you struck by the recession: investing money in foreign assets degenerates your currency worth even more, since you increase the available supply of your currency on the international market)

Roanian firms struck by recession
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=96947

Steel Butterfly unaffected by recent economic downfall
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97124
Roania
26-11-2003, 10:25
It's Official: Roania in Depression!

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97350
imported_Lusaka
26-11-2003, 11:28
Lusaka's lunatic economy looses momentum after record highs:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=95936

This sub-Saharan African economy may not seem the most important in the world, but major trade deals have recently been signed with the nations of Sambezi and Hrstrovokia. The down-turn is linked and threatens to worsen the present border dispute with the African Commonwealth, and may contribute to the outbreak of hostilities between the previously friendly states. No one can yet say how many other nations may be drawn in, with neighbouring Rhodesia and Nyasaland, and distant Gladania already showing concern.
Dra-pol
26-11-2003, 11:32
Dra-pol's booming economy extends a helpful hand to the struggling world scene by opening up to unprecidented trade!

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97357

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26-11-2003, 12:27
Both events have been noted and added to the first page
26-11-2003, 12:28
Maraka takes countermeasures
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97368
26-11-2003, 12:37
Corporations in Tarasovka take measures
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97352
26-11-2003, 12:44
Invest in Pure Evil.

The world's True Economic power, While others fall part in Recession Pure Evil continues to be at the highest possible level.

GO PE ECONOMY
Tarasovka
26-11-2003, 12:46
Invest in Pure Evil.

The world's True Economic power, While others fall part in Recession Pure Evil continues to be at the highest possible level.

GO PE ECONOMY

I didn't fall apart.
In fact - my economy is even growing :D

Only that my corporations that have filials in the nations in recession are taking measures to lessen the impact of the recession on their filials...

Otherwise - the domestic economy is booming :)
26-11-2003, 12:51
Invest in Pure Evil.

The world's True Economic power, While others fall part in Recession Pure Evil continues to be at the highest possible level.

GO PE ECONOMY

I'm in the same situation as Tarasovka. Internal SFN markets help a lot. But anyway: any nation that engages in international trade in times of recession will be affected in one way or another.
Daistallia
26-11-2003, 13:08
The DP news wire is reporting the early signs of a recovery.
Zerni
26-11-2003, 14:41
Zerni market on edge panic over Global resession. Emperor tries to open Menelmacari Market. Corporations grow even more ruthless than ever before. Corporate war expected in the most ruthless marketplace in the world.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=95344&highlight=zerni

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97122&highlight=zerni
Celdonia
26-11-2003, 14:59
I dunno, you moan when we support revolutionaries, you moan when we use the legitimate channels of the UN :P
Seocc
26-11-2003, 16:30
(For those of you struck by the recession: investing money in foreign assets degenerates your currency worth even more, since you increase the available supply of your currency on the international market)]

ooc: quite true, and moreover, moving investment overseas will reduce the saving supply in your own nation, weakening domestic production and buying power. of course it's not profitable, which is the problem; corporations WILL go overseas when they SHOULD stay in country.
Watfordshire
26-11-2003, 17:11
****Watfordshire Evening News Headlines - Broadcast by BriSAT****

Despite the lowest turnout for employment postings in nearly a decade, there was celebration in all five of the major Shiree settlements this evening, due to the successful implementation of the recent UN resolution regarding Labour Unions.

"I expected a party on a large scale, and haven't been disappointed" commented Magic Hooley Jnr. - Head of Military Dancing, whose urban Moderators certainly earned their overtime, supervising the celebrations.

"The empowerment of workers across the world has taken a huge boost, due to this proposal becoming a resolution. Power to the People!" exclaimed Felix Jethoscopes - Shiree Herald to the UN

Celebrations are expected to disrupt production for a few days more, while Economic spokesperson, Heidi Stoffer stated that the change in UN economic classification from Strong to Good was:
"A step in the right direction.. we need to find more efficiency in our exchange of surplus production within the CACE and with other International Fair Trade signatory nations, if we are to regain any kind of sensible 'Average' economic status"
Watfordshire
26-11-2003, 17:51
OOC: nice one Vortex
*BUMP* to increase the panic :twisted:
Biotopia
26-11-2003, 18:01
8) s'cuse me while i giggle like a little girl at all the collapsing economies.
26-11-2003, 18:07
ooc: Bio, I'm glad to see you are very happy with not being affected by the recession. So may I assume that you have no financial ties with foreign nations whatsoever? That your currency is not noted on any stockmarket whatsoever? That there is absolutely no flow of currency from foreign nations to yours?
Biotopia
26-11-2003, 18:24
OOC: There, there VC, hope you're not cranky from staying up late reading all those text books. [all the best]. Well actually our economy did drop down to "powerhouse" from all consuming, disappointing considering how few economic issues we seem to get, but we will survive. On the other hand we moved up to 'left-leaning college state'.

We signed the IFTA and are part of CACE so we are fairly secure economically speaking because we are not faced with the same turbulence of the capitalist economic system. [Obviously ask SeOCC for more, unless you want to argue with a high school econs student :wink:]. We also use the Union Paw, which is the adopted currency of all Non-Human Union members, the recent liberalisation of trade between nations has meant that we are buffeted from all but a NS depression as NHU, CACE and IFTA nations ar ethe only ones we have any form of trade or currencu exchange with.
Tanah Burung
26-11-2003, 18:26
This thread is great, and it's great to see so many people willing to RP a recession. I think Biotopia as part of the CACE would be well within their rights to claim few or no foreign trade ties, CACE being pretty inward-looking, not tradign outside their own bloc until the IFTA was created, and apparently not too badly affected by the recession (Celdonia economic rating unchanged, Xikuang up, etc).
Biotopia
26-11-2003, 18:36
Thank you thank you.

Being Eco-Scoialist also helps.
26-11-2003, 18:41
Free Burkina Faso hit by drought, unemployment; major corn/cotton/peanut/gold producer's economy goes down the crapper.
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97447
Santa Barbara
26-11-2003, 18:45
OOC: Sadly, even if the UN-inspired recession negatively effected my nation, we don't exactly have free press, and its doubtful we'd advertise.

Besides, its hard for me to RP a recession with these increasingly high economic ratings. :wink:
Underaloz
26-11-2003, 18:46
OOC: Sadly, even if the UN-inspired recession negatively effected my nation, we don't exactly have free press, and its doubtful we'd advertise.

Besides, its hard for me to RP a recession with these increasingly high economic ratings. :wink:
(ooc: well, Underaloz's economy is doing good. However, it's not the first time the UN resolutions lower it... so the corporations are a bit pissed off and so are the citizens)
Xikuang
26-11-2003, 22:22
My economy went up. Go figure. I credit CACE/IFTA membership: no need for reforms, as unions have not only been legal but government subsidised from our inception.

(Mechanically, I have no idea what happened. But yes, my economy did indeed go up)
imported_Eniqcir
26-11-2003, 23:54
Kasei hits budget problems (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=93926&highlight=)
Stone River
27-11-2003, 01:46
The Recession: A State of the Confederacy Address
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97134
27-11-2003, 11:20
Both threads added to first page.
Knootoss
28-11-2003, 00:59
More to add...

Celackian response to Recession.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97607

I will have more in the morning as well.