NationStates Jolt Archive


Xanthal discards technology.

Xanthal
24-11-2003, 19:17
Xanthal has discarded Transdimensional Gateway, Phased cloak, and Infinate Phase shielding from it's vessels. Reports on patterns of incidents have proven all three technologies inherantly unsafe and thus not fit for general use.
Also; Nova Bomb, Thalaron, and Molecular Cohesion Disrupter weaponry is being permanantly banned due to the danger of it's use.

OOC: This, that, and the other thing... I'm in the process of crippling Xanthal in an attempt to regain acknowledgement from some of the nations that ignore me.
Santa Barbara
24-11-2003, 19:20
OOC: Good! Perfection is boring. This is a step in the right direction. Just as long as you dont suddenly regain these technologies in a war, though...
Dontgonearthere
24-11-2003, 19:22
A phased cloak is only dangerous if the officers in charge of it, or the generators powering it are unstable, although we do not use them on our warships, we frequently use them on nanoprobes to explore periods of time, so as to minimize changes made to individual particles.
The probes, being molocule sized, do not affect much, but since any small change could have disasterous effects, we add a partial phase cloak to them, reducing their size by roughly %75, and dramaticaly reducing the probability of any collisions.
Xanthal
25-11-2003, 05:28
Meh. Don't get all on my case about it; this is for me, not for any of you. In all fairness, I never even used any of my big guns anyway. People just liked to complain that they were there. In short: There'll be no real difference now. By the way, the Battlecube class and Apocalypse class vessels will still have TDG technology since they can't use slipstream. And the Apocalypse class will still carry all those big, destructive weapons. After all, it needs to live up to it's name.
Steel Butterfly
25-11-2003, 05:47
OOC: So your nation is just getting up and ICly abandoning technology on purpose? Yeah...because that's realistic...

The least you could do is have a huge disaster shaking the very boundaries of your culture or something. :roll:
Sakkra
25-11-2003, 05:50
OOC: I believe what's going on here is what's called a "Mass Recall". They were found to be unsafe, and are being recalled. Maybe.
Steel Butterfly
25-11-2003, 05:53
OOC: I believe what's going on here is what's called a "Mass Recall". They were found to be unsafe, and are being recalled. Maybe.

Still...why not just seek improvements? If you hear a report from America that says "Nuclear Weapons, Smart Bombs, and Fighter Jets are too dangerous...therefore we're getting rid of them all"

well...you get my point?
Sakkra
25-11-2003, 05:59
OOC: Yeah, I see your point. But if Xanthal doesn't wanna do that, i'm not gonna push for it. Not my job. Heh heh.
Steel Butterfly
25-11-2003, 06:04
OOC: Goes from bad roleplaying to...bad roleplaying...imagine :roll:
Xanthal
25-11-2003, 06:08
Well, the point is mainly that Xanthal doesn't need all that stuff. This, combined with the cutting of alliances described in the other thread, allows for a massive cut in expenses for communication, diplomats, freighters, police, and outposts. That combined with the fact that Xanthal was stuck in a trade deficit of several billion dollars a year brings us out ahead by allowing us to completely eliminate massive amounts of expenses.

Estimated GNP loss as a result of cuts: $5,141,021,010,995
Estimated expenses eliminated as a result of cuts: $6,982,000,966,100
Xanthal
25-11-2003, 06:10
So basically our overall income is less, but our expenses are cut even further. Thus, we can do more with less. By the way, that figure above is influenced massively by us cutting loose half of our claims in the galaxy.
Steel Butterfly
25-11-2003, 06:11
Well, the point is mainly that Xanthal doesn't need all that stuff.

Does the US need smart bombs and other computer guided weaponry? No...but no nation throws out technology.
Xanthal
25-11-2003, 06:11
And all that is described here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=96691), in case you missed it.
Xanthal
25-11-2003, 06:12
Well, the point is mainly that Xanthal doesn't need all that stuff.

Does the US need smart bombs and other computer guided weaponry? No...but no nation throws out technology.Watch us. We love technology, but we don't feel the need to keep paying for technology that we never use. The Apocalypse class will do us fine for big guns.
Steel Butterfly
25-11-2003, 06:14
And all that is described here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=96691), in case you missed it.

And that will ruin your economy
Steel Butterfly
25-11-2003, 06:15
Well, the point is mainly that Xanthal doesn't need all that stuff.

Does the US need smart bombs and other computer guided weaponry? No...but no nation throws out technology.Watch us. We love technology, but we don't feel the need to keep paying for technology that we never use. The Apocalypse class will do us fine for big guns.

Regardless...

while "Watch us" might make you look big

being unrealistic in your RP's doesnt
Xanthal
25-11-2003, 06:21
Explain to me how choosing to not use useless technology on all of our ships is unrealistic. Does the U.S. put nuclear warheads on all of it's missiles? No. Do they put the biggest guns on all of their warships? No. We're not disarming, just lightening the load on our ships by eliminating the weapons and technology that are unnecessary.
And on the contrary, cutting trade ties and alliances will not ruin our economy, though it did lower our GNP by a few trillion dollars. Xanthal has never relied heavily on international trade, and our budget has been easily balanced by eliminating excess territory and facilities related to trade. Trade was making us lose more money than we were gaining from it, as you can see from the figures I gave.
Steel Butterfly
25-11-2003, 06:27
If trade makes you lose more money than you gain, that means your products are inferrior to those of the nations you trade with. Then you say you're going to support your nation on bad products alone? Makes sense. :roll:

Ah...but you said you were stripping things off of all of your ships...not just some of them as you implied in your example. Transdimensional Gateway, Phased cloak, Infinate Phase, Nova Bombs, Thalaron, and Molecular Cohesion Disrupters are huge technological achievements and advancements. Why you'd go back to the stone age in comparison to where you were is beyond me.

As for my ongoing example with America...

George Bush: "Lets supply our armed forces with 18th century tech to 'regain acknowledgement from some of the nations that' hate me."
Steel Butterfly
25-11-2003, 06:38
...no response...
Xanthal
25-11-2003, 06:39
Not quite, I have a standing story behind Xanthal's international trade. The reason for the deficit is that Xanthal doesn't allow anything worth crap to be exported unless they get an unfair price for it. It's stupid trading practice, but that's kinda the point. Ever wonder why the Ministry of Foreign Affairs gets the least funding of any Xanthalian ministry?

We're not going back to the stone age, we still have the tech. if we need it, but since we've never had a need for it why should we pay for it's upkeep on every Xanthalian ship? There are two Apocalypse class ships in service, they keep all the destructive power of the big weapons if we ever need them. In the meantime, we save money on not paying for the things to sit on all of our ships unused. The phasing stuff is a seperate issue, it's dangerous to use. You wanna sue us for being safe? The New Interplanetary Republic is designed to be peaceful, why take the risk of having big, expensive, dangerous war machines everywhere?

edit: So I don't type as fast as you. Stop being impatient.
Steel Butterfly
25-11-2003, 06:43
Ah...now see how much more detailed that was? I just learned at least 10 facts about Xanthal in a single post.

We're not going back to the stone age, we still have the tech. if we need it, but since we've never had a need for it why should we pay for it's upkeep on every Xanthalian ship? There are two Apocalypse class ships in service, they keep all the destructive power of the big weapons if we ever need them. In the meantime, we save money on not paying for the things to sit on all of our ships unused. The phasing stuff is a seperate issue, it's dangerous to use. You wanna sue us for being safe? The New Interplanetary Republic is designed to be peaceful, why take the risk of having big, expensive, dangerous war machines everywhere?

Why not make a first post out of that...much more clear and specific than

Xanthal has discarded Transdimensional Gateway, Phased cloak, and Infinate Phase shielding from it's vessels. Reports on patterns of incidents have proven all three technologies inherantly unsafe and thus not fit for general use.
Also; Nova Bomb, Thalaron, and Molecular Cohesion Disrupter weaponry is being permanantly banned due to the danger of it's use.
Xanthal
25-11-2003, 06:51
Meh... I suppose you're right. I just don't like to spend a lot of time putting background into my first posts. It's an RPing weakness of mine. I need to go to bed now, if you reply to this I'll get back to you sometime tomorrow morning.
Steel Butterfly
25-11-2003, 06:52
Nah...I should be off as well