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LAGD preparations after ADK's attacks

The Gulf States
22-11-2003, 07:15
Well. One of LAGD's member nations, ADK, just attacked an unarmed convoy (I think that's what it was) against a GDODAD member. We did not support this attack, nor did we plan this.

In case of a GDODAD retaliation, we will begin to get our militaries to prepare for an attack or an invasion. Because after all, they claim this is the true World War 6 coming up. We still don't plan on starting this new world war - but just in case we're going to mobilize troops.

4.5 million soldiers have been deployed, along with 350k from Flocarga and Delmarva. F&D has also given us permission to use their Virginia-Delaware bases at Norfolk and Cape Charles. They will protect our massive territory - patrol our air space with air force patrolers and space tech stations. On our shores will be anti-aircraft and anti-missile equipment, as well as around our major cities. There is a no-fly zone over the downtown areas in Bardista City, Lexington, Dayton, Flordis City, Toronto, Sao Paulo, Rio de Janiero, Montreal, and Port-au-Prince. We are also protecting Atlanta, Charlotte, Miami, and Jacksonville - in F&D.

We highly urge other nations in the LAGD to prepare for an invasion or an attack, because ADK has taken the first shots against GDODAD.
Automagfreek
22-11-2003, 07:16
We suggest that LAGD and LAGD alone mop this up. This reflects poorly upon your standards if you do not handle this yourselves.

In the meantime, GDODAD will watch, and wait.


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The Gulf States
22-11-2003, 07:18
There's another topic where myself, Fyreheart, and other LAGD nations condemned the attacks. After all, we weren't supposed to start the war. Dark Terror and Belem were....

EDIT: Although I must say, this is becoming a nice little cold war.
The Sword and Sheild
22-11-2003, 07:18
The Republic wishes for no war, it has already been decided by LAGD that ADK was acting on his own and is no longer part of LAGD. GDODAD has thus far kept to it's promises of no war (The Imperial Force flashpoint is approaching however) and we believe a mobilization for war may make them mis-read our reaction to these dastardly attacks on civilian liners.

Along with the fact that most of the Federal forces are deployed in the WWIX theatre, we believe an alert would be wise, however a military mobilization may send the wrong message


- The Federal Senate Diplomatic Corps
Steel Butterfly
22-11-2003, 07:20
EDIT: Although I must say, this is becoming a nice little cold war.

With shots fired, it's way more than that
The Gulf States
22-11-2003, 07:22
Along with the fact that most of the Federal forces are deployed in the WWIX theatre, we believe an alert would be wise, however a military mobilization may send the wrong message

I'm just questioning the rationale of the GDODAD leadership. Although the high ups did not want the attack, ADK's shots leave us all at risk. We are merely protecting ourselves, especially since I'm the founder and head of the enemy alliance. I don't know if GDODAD is going to attack us, or just ignore the rest of us as it was just ADK acting on his own.
Automagfreek
22-11-2003, 07:23
GDODAD will not repsond to the attacks made by ADK. Now, here's the situation: unless YOU, the alliance that took ADK in, stop this YOURSELVES, we cannot and will not be held responsible for our actions. This is a problem that YOU are facing, not the GDODAD. GDODAD does not want a war on it's hands this early in it's existance, BUT, unless you do something to stop this, I can see no other alternative.

Let it be known that we are being very patient on this matter, as we are trying to make a new image for the GDODAD.


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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-
G.D.O.D.A.D
The Gulf States
22-11-2003, 07:23
EDIT: Although I must say, this is becoming a nice little cold war.

With shots fired, it's way more than that

Where are we going to move the games between TGS and SB in NSMLB?
The Gulf States
22-11-2003, 07:26
GDODAD will not repsond to the attacks made by ADK. Now, here's the situation: unless YOU, the alliance that took ADK in, stop this YOURSELVES, we cannot and will not be held responsible for our actions. This is a problem that YOU are facing, not the GDODAD. GDODAD does not want a war on it's hands this early in it's existance, BUT, unless you do something to stop this, I can see no other alternative.

My current plans are to keep holding our truce. ADK is acting on his own, for we haven't given any orders for attacks. Our main purpose for holding hot nations like ADK or DT/Bisons is to create a major offensive charge if we ever needed it - and more bargaining chips to prevent war. Only problem is when ADK takes some shots, and DT and Belem constantly on the brink of war....
Automagfreek
22-11-2003, 07:29
My current plans are to keep holding our truce. ADK is acting on his own, for we haven't given any orders for attacks. Our main purpose for holding hot nations like ADK or DT/Bisons is to create a major offensive charge if we ever needed it - and more bargaining chips to prevent war. Only problem is when ADK takes some shots, and DT and Belem constantly on the brink of war....

Regardless though. Wether ADK was acting on behalf of the LAGD or not, this is severely damaging your credibility. You claim to be an alliance that keeps GDODAD in check? Well, what about those that openly seek to provoke GDODAD, ever thought of that? Instead of sitting back and waiting for US to make the first move, how about YOU, the alliance that took ADK in, handle this quickly and as quietly as possible.

All I'm trying to say is that by allowing ADK to attack GDODAD on a whim, you are making your purpose of keeping GDODAD in check to be in vain. You know darn well that we cannot sit back and watch civilian transports be shot up and do nothing.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-
G.D.O.D.A.D
Isla de Penguinata
22-11-2003, 07:29
The Corporate Dominion suggests to The Gulf States that we immediately strip ADK of LAGD membership, as well as demand compensation for the attack on the unarmed Bajoni convoy.

If we can clean this up, there may not be need to prepare for war. However, the CDIDP may prepare anyway, as it is time to prepare for any attack.

--Dept. of International Affairs--
22-11-2003, 07:33
The Corporate Dominion suggests to The Gulf States that we immediately strip ADK of LAGD membership, as well as demand compensation for the attack on the unarmed Bajoni convoy.

If we can clean this up, there may not be need to prepare for war. However, the CDIDP may prepare anyway, as it is time to prepare for any attack.

--Dept. of International Affairs--Exactly what I was thinking. This suggestion will allow both alliances to save face and leve ADK alone against an enemy he cannot hope to fight...

Again.

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The Gulf States
22-11-2003, 07:35
Well, what about those that openly seek to provoke GDODAD, ever thought of that? Instead of sitting back and waiting for US to make the first move, how about YOU, the alliance that took ADK in, handle this quickly and as quietly as possible.

ADK's attack on the convoy is a shock even to us. We weren't expecting this or any other attacks to be made by our own side.
Russian Forces
22-11-2003, 07:35
ADk always has to break the ice.....

I suggest both sides to back down or the communists will be involved.
Automagfreek
22-11-2003, 07:36
ADk always has to break the ice.....

I suggest both sides to back down or the communists will be involved.

Let us continue our discussions in private, Mr. Putin.

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Omz222
22-11-2003, 07:40
As a non-LAGD nation, we would just say that we conclude ADK is just too unfit to be in the LAGD right now.

That is all.

--Foreign Affairs Ministry
The Gulf States
22-11-2003, 07:42
As a non-LAGD nation, we would just say that we conclude ADK is just too unfit to be in the LAGD right now.

That is all.

--Foreign Affairs Ministry

Our rosters have been update to reflect ADK's departure from our alliance. He used our name to provoke an attack, and we weren't prepared or approving of the action.
Automagfreek
22-11-2003, 07:43
Our rosters have been update to reflect ADK's departure from our alliance. He used our name to provoke an attack, and we weren't prepared or approving of the action.

The question still stands: what is LAGD going to do to make ADK stop so that GDODAD does not have to mobilize?


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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-
G.D.O.D.A.D
The Gulf States
22-11-2003, 07:45
Our rosters have been update to reflect ADK's departure from our alliance. He used our name to provoke an attack, and we weren't prepared or approving of the action.

The question still stands: what is LAGD going to do to make ADK stop so that GDODAD does not have to mobilize?


He's not a member of our organization anymore. We're not going to support him if he continues to attack GDODAD nations - and he's completely admitted he was just using us to get 33 other nations involved in the wrath he's now going to receive alone. So quite frankly, we was screwing us over and we're leaving him out to dry.

I don't know what we can get out of ADK other than him just being kicked out - or a war against ADK that we don't want. Then again, it'd be strange fighting the enemy of our enemy. Three way wars?
Isla de Penguinata
22-11-2003, 07:46
Our rosters have been update to reflect ADK's departure from our alliance. He used our name to provoke an attack, and we weren't prepared or approving of the action.

The question still stands: what is LAGD going to do to make ADK stop so that GDODAD does not have to mobilize?

Are you suggesting we take military action on ADK in order to immobilize it? :shock:

--Dept. of International Affairs--
Belem
22-11-2003, 07:46
There's another topic where myself, Fyreheart, and other LAGD nations condemned the attacks. After all, we weren't supposed to start the war. Dark Terror and Belem were....

EDIT: Although I must say, this is becoming a nice little cold war.

OOC: I was supposed to do what?
Steel Butterfly
22-11-2003, 07:48
EDIT: Although I must say, this is becoming a nice little cold war.

With shots fired, it's way more than that

Where are we going to move the games between TGS and SB in NSMLB?

Oh I'm merely a commentator
The Sword and Sheild
22-11-2003, 07:48
It appears the nation of Watertest, another LAGD member is already ahead of LAGD command, it would look a lot better if the entire Alliance was behind his proposal.



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The Gulf States
22-11-2003, 07:49
There's another topic where myself, Fyreheart, and other LAGD nations condemned the attacks. After all, we weren't supposed to start the war. Dark Terror and Belem were....

EDIT: Although I must say, this is becoming a nice little cold war.

OOC: I was supposed to do what?

You two have quite a rivalry and have for the past six weeks. Like ADK, an attack on you by DT or vice versa may have led to the start of WW6. If it ever happened, somehow it hasn't.
The Gulf States
22-11-2003, 07:50
It appears the nation of Watertest, another LAGD member is already ahead of LAGD command, it would look a lot better if the entire Alliance was behind his proposal.

I'll try to find it. Then make an opinion on it.
Abu-Dhabi Khristatata
22-11-2003, 07:50
We never attacked in LAGD's name. We acted independantly. Let LAGD do as it wishes.

--Quin Izumi
Automagfreek
22-11-2003, 07:51
We never attacked in LAGD's name. We acted independantly.

--Quin Izumi

Suuuure...don't believe what this lunatic says. He has damaged your credibility by hiding behind your alliance!

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G.D.O.D.A.D
Belem
22-11-2003, 07:52
There's another topic where myself, Fyreheart, and other LAGD nations condemned the attacks. After all, we weren't supposed to start the war. Dark Terror and Belem were....

EDIT: Although I must say, this is becoming a nice little cold war.

OOC: I was supposed to do what?

You two have quite a rivalry and have for the past six weeks. Like ADK, an attack on you by DT or vice versa may have led to the start of WW6. If it ever happened, somehow it hasn't.

OOC: We did go to war he refused to take casualities when assualiting a fortified position so I ignored him.
Abu-Dhabi Khristatata
22-11-2003, 07:57
We never attacked in LAGD's name. We acted independantly.

--Quin Izumi

Suuuure...don't believe what this lunatic says. He has damaged your credibility by hiding behind your alliance!

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-
G.D.O.D.A.D

Hiding for how long, a few hours? We only joined because they were anti-GDODAD. Believe what you wish, Mr. Hartman, AMF has been falling from power for a long time anyways.

--Quin Izumi
22-11-2003, 07:57
Are you suggesting we take military action on ADK in order to immobilize it? :shock:

--Dept. of International Affairs--How you stop ADK is quite up to you. The GDODAD will handle him, I'm sure, but I don't think we should have to, since he did strike while still in your ranks....

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Automagfreek
22-11-2003, 07:58
Hiding for how long, a few hours? We only joined because they were anti-GDODAD. Believe what you wish, Mr. Hartman, AMF has been falling from power for a long time anyways.

--Quin Izumi

Hartman chuckled.

Only in your diluted mindset Quin. AMF is more powerful than it has ever been, but that's another issue.

The issue at hand is what to do with you, seeing as you're warmonger #1.

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Minister Hartman
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G.D.O.D.A.D
Abu-Dhabi Khristatata
22-11-2003, 08:00
Are you suggesting we take military action on ADK in order to immobilize it? :shock:

--Dept. of International Affairs--How you stop ADK is quite up to you. The GDODAD will handle him, I'm sure, but I don't think we should have to, since he did strike while still in your ranks....

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Member: Arda Alliance (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_region/region=arda)
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To quote Micheal Tora(Who was the most Pro-GDODAD Chairman ever of ADK): 'We will fight to the last fetus.'

But only if you don't want a settlement. We aren't scared, we just want money.

--Quin Izumi
The Gulf States
22-11-2003, 08:03
*slams head into the desk repeatedly*

Why me? Why me? Why me?

So far you tell us to address ADK or else. And yet you give no clear recommendation to do anything. What good is doing something about ADK if it'd be completely meaningless to you.

The only solution I can think is pay off or get a war with ADK. And I really don't want to do either - esp. option 2. All because of stupid sh** I wasn't a part of.

Damn it all, I feel like throwing around some Harbingers.
Abu-Dhabi Khristatata
22-11-2003, 08:03
Hiding for how long, a few hours? We only joined because they were anti-GDODAD. Believe what you wish, Mr. Hartman, AMF has been falling from power for a long time anyways.

--Quin Izumi

Hartman chuckled.

Only in your diluted mindset Quin. AMF is more powerful than it has ever been, but that's another issue.

The issue at hand is what to do with you, seeing as you're warmonger #1.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-
G.D.O.D.A.D

Heh. And to think I was the one who orignially allied ADK with AMF via the WMNK all those years ago. Things definately changed. My mindest might be dilluted, but my mind is not.

--Quin Izumi
Automagfreek
22-11-2003, 08:06
*slams head into the desk repeatedly*

Why me? Why me? Why me?

So far you tell us to address ADK or else. And yet you give no clear recommendation to do anything. What good is doing something about ADK if it'd be completely meaningless to you.

The only solution I can think is pay off or get a war with ADK. And I really don't want to do either - esp. option 2. All because of stupid sh** I wasn't a part of.

Damn it all, I feel like throwing around some Harbingers.

We have left that up to you.

YOU make this situation better, because it did happen while ADK was still in your ranks. It's up to you to fix it, because GDODAD will fix it with blood and fire if you fail to resolve this.

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G.D.O.D.A.D
The Sword and Sheild
22-11-2003, 08:13
*slams head into the desk repeatedly*

Why me? Why me? Why me?

So far you tell us to address ADK or else. And yet you give no clear recommendation to do anything. What good is doing something about ADK if it'd be completely meaningless to you.

The only solution I can think is pay off or get a war with ADK. And I really don't want to do either - esp. option 2. All because of stupid sh** I wasn't a part of.

Damn it all, I feel like throwing around some Harbingers.

I believe we cannot actually give money to this nation (ADK), this is sending the drastically wrong message. We look very weak and forgiving, we're giving into the demands of a rogue nation, and he isn't even attacking us. We must not give in to his demands, and perhaps look into different means. It appears ADK will not budge, however that doesn't mean we can stop trying diplomatically, but we should begin to prepare for a military campaign.


- The Office of the President of the Federal Republic (of SnS)
The Gulf States
22-11-2003, 08:14
I saw your comments in the ADK seeing reparations from GDODAD topic. See my followup over there.
22-11-2003, 08:19
*slams head into the desk repeatedly*

Why me? Why me? Why me?

So far you tell us to address ADK or else. And yet you give no clear recommendation to do anything. What good is doing something about ADK if it'd be completely meaningless to you.

The only solution I can think is pay off or get a war with ADK. And I really don't want to do either - esp. option 2. All because of stupid sh** I wasn't a part of.

Damn it all, I feel like throwing around some Harbingers.

I believe we cannot actually give money to this nation (ADK), this is sending the drastically wrong message. We look very weak and forgiving, we're giving into the demands of a rogue nation, and he isn't even attacking us. We must not give in to his demands, and perhaps look into different means. It appears ADK will not budge, however that doesn't mean we can stop trying diplomatically, but we should begin to prepare for a military campaign.


- The Office of the President of the Federal Republic (of SnS)

OOC: The treaty is not final yet, Bajon has not responded.
The Evil Smurfs
22-11-2003, 08:24
Oh dear.

Poor, poor LAGD. They set themselves up to "counter" GDODAD, and the first time something happens that they weren't expecting, they become completely useless.

One of your members stirs something up, and none of your leaders can come up with any course of action aside from giving said member money?

You couldn't even muster the gumption to eject the member until GDODAD told you to. So... ah... why do you exists?

Gehirn Smurf
22-11-2003, 08:30
Tahar Joblis condemns the apparent spinelessness of the LAGD, and the immoral facist capitalist pig-dog imperialist totalitarian nature of the GDODAD-3 member states.
The Sword and Sheild
22-11-2003, 08:33
We have yet to effectively organize, I can assure you next time something like this happens the decision will be swift. At the moment we only have a collection of nations, none of them sure whether or not they can speak as a whole for LAGD. Once we get positions in place, like several Foreign Ministers who can speak as the LAGD on the forums, and other positions such as this, we will be effectively working.
Copiosa Scotia
22-11-2003, 16:19
(OOC: As posted in another thread.)

"I have to wonder why the LAGD is even allowing the GDODAD to make demands of it. Do what must be done, certainly, even if that means the ejection of ADK from the alliance, but it should be the LAGD's decision to do so, not a response to the 'demands' of the GDODAD. LAGD must grow a spine if it is ever going to be an effective counter to the threat of totalitarian expansion."

- Sophia Kahler, Secretary of Foreign Affairs (LIVE! from the FPS Silverton)
Atlantian Outcasts
22-11-2003, 16:25
Senator Orions response:
Your planet is a powter Keg, waiting to blow.
22-11-2003, 17:28
Well, it seems this situation may be defused after all.