NationStates Jolt Archive

Ok, I'm not going to try to order you to stop this madness, as this will fall on deaf ears anyway. I am here to mearly offer some advice.

You older nations remember WW4 and WW5, right? What started them? It was war between GDODAD and the Allies. Well, after GDODAD collapsed, no other WW's broke out (exception: WW6, but that collapsed, and was ignored. And maybe Mekor vs. the Coalition, but that's a bit different......) ANYWAY: Now that GDODAD is back, a new version of the allies is back (LAGD). This is the beginning of war. I expect that the real WW6 will begin soon. I IMPLORE you to hear me out, and stop this at once. Please, no more GDODAD, no more LAGD. Let this END.

-Senator Orion

That depends on your definiton of a world war. Some folks say we are up to 9 now. Although I still agree. These huge alliances are all basicly warmongering.

That depends on your definiton of a world war. Some folks say we are up to 9 now. Although I still agree. These huge alliances are all basicly warmongering.

9!?!?!?!

The last WW was 5, where there was actual fighting. "6" fell apart. the Melkor wars where only on one front.

Ok, I'm not going to try to order you to stop this madness, as this will fall on deaf ears anyway. I am here to mearly offer some advice.

You older nations remember WW4 and WW5, right? What started them? It was war between GDODAD and the Allies. Well, after GDODAD collapsed, no other WW's broke out (exception: WW6, but that collapsed, and was ignored. And maybe Mekor vs. the Coalition, but that's a bit different......) ANYWAY: Now that GDODAD is back, a new version of the allies is back (LAGD). This is the beginning of war. I expect that the real WW6 will begin soon. I IMPLORE you to hear me out, and stop this at once. Please, no more GDODAD, no more LAGD. Let this END.

-Senator Orion

Have you ever been invaded by a GDODAD member? Have you had thousands of soldiers invading your nation trying to destroy your goverment? While we pushed the invaders back, some wounds never heal. When evil rises there are those that do nothing, and are those that ally and send the dark to hell.

Ryan Jordan
President of Watertest

We've never bothered GDODAD, they've never bothered us. A simple declaration of neutrality has worked fine for us up till now.

SbW

Ok, I'm not going to try to order you to stop this madness, as this will fall on deaf ears anyway. I am here to mearly offer some advice.

You older nations remember WW4 and WW5, right? What started them? It was war between GDODAD and the Allies. Well, after GDODAD collapsed, no other WW's broke out (exception: WW6, but that collapsed, and was ignored. And maybe Mekor vs. the Coalition, but that's a bit different......) ANYWAY: Now that GDODAD is back, a new version of the allies is back (LAGD). This is the beginning of war. I expect that the real WW6 will begin soon. I IMPLORE you to hear me out, and stop this at once. Please, no more GDODAD, no more LAGD. Let this END.

-Senator Orion

Have you ever been invaded by a GDODAD member? Have you had thousands of soldiers invading your nation trying to destroy your goverment? While we pushed the invaders back, some wounds never heal. When evil rises there are those that do nothing, and are those that ally and send the dark to hell.

Ryan Jordan
President of Watertest

oh for....I knew this would fall on deaf ears. I'm telling BOTH of you to stop. This will only lead to bloodshead and death. Some times you have to think about the big picture, and not soley on yourself

*tag*

AO, I was a GDODAD member for three months and I will tell you right now, you are wasting a lot of time and energy. The GDODAD is sure as hell not gonna listen and I have little more expectations for the LAGD.

AO, I was a GDODAD member for three months and I will tell you right now, you are wasting a lot of time and energy. The GDODAD is sure as hell not gonna listsen and I have little more expectations for the LAGD.

Yes, I figured that. It was worth a try though.

Ok, I'm not going to try to order you to stop this madness, as this will fall on deaf ears anyway. I am here to mearly offer some advice.

You older nations remember WW4 and WW5, right? What started them? It was war between GDODAD and the Allies. Well, after GDODAD collapsed, no other WW's broke out (exception: WW6, but that collapsed, and was ignored. And maybe Mekor vs. the Coalition, but that's a bit different......) ANYWAY: Now that GDODAD is back, a new version of the allies is back (LAGD). This is the beginning of war. I expect that the real WW6 will begin soon. I IMPLORE you to hear me out, and stop this at once. Please, no more GDODAD, no more LAGD. Let this END.

-Senator Orion

Have you ever been invaded by a GDODAD member? Have you had thousands of soldiers invading your nation trying to destroy your goverment? While we pushed the invaders back, some wounds never heal. When evil rises there are those that do nothing, and are those that ally and send the dark to hell.

Ryan Jordan
President of Watertest

oh for....I knew this would fall on deaf ears. I'm telling BOTH of you to stop. This will only lead to bloodshead and death. Some times you have to think about the big picture, and not soley on yourself

Perhaps you have not dealt with the GDODAD before. They do not care what one nation thinks, they are cowards of the highest degree. There is no way that either side will back down. By the way, if I was thinking about myself and not others, I would have joined the GDODAD.

Perhaps you have not dealt with the GDODAD before. They do not care what one nation thinks, they are cowards of the highest degree. There is no way that either side will back down. By the way, if I was thinking about myself and not others, I would have joined the GDODAD.

Oh god.......

I AM TELLING YOU BOTH TO STOP. THIS WILL ONLY LEAD TO WHAT YOU HATE MOST: INVASIONS. YOur running purly on Vendetta. NOW STOP, before billions die. This next WW will be a galactic one, I am sure of it

Bah, let the GDODAD and LAGD scoundrels slaughter each other. They'd be doing Troy a favor by destroying each other.

King Priam
-The Imperial Kingdom of Troy-

Bah, let the GDODAD and LAGD scoundrels slaughter each other. They'd be doing Troy a favor by destroying each other.

King Priam
-The Imperial Kingdom of Troy-^^^^ Example of the indifference of other nations to the GDODAD and the Allies ^^^^

That indifference is what allowed the last two World Wars to happen. They both nearly destroyed the planet's economy and fragile semblence of peace. Imaging what a galactice scale war will be? Entire solar systems being attacked and subjegated... with us at the heart of it, in the most densely populated solar system in the galaxy.

I never had a problem with GDODAD before.

OOC: I also just got really bored...

Bah, let the GDODAD and LAGD scoundrels slaughter each other. They'd be doing Troy a favor by destroying each other.

King Priam
-The Imperial Kingdom of Troy-^^^^ Example of the indifference of other nations to the GDODAD and the Allies ^^^^

That indifference is what allowed the last two World Wars to happen. They both nearly destroyed the planet's economy and fragile semblence of peace. Imaging what a galactice scale war will be? Entire solar systems being attacked and subjegated... with us at the heart of it, in the most densely populated solar system in the galaxy.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE COMPLEATE DISTRUCTION OF COMPLEATE PLANETS AND SYSTEMS! THINK TITAN A.E.!

Bah, let the GDODAD and LAGD scoundrels slaughter each other. They'd be doing Troy a favor by destroying each other.

King Priam
-The Imperial Kingdom of Troy-^^^^ Example of the indifference of other nations to the GDODAD and the Allies ^^^^

That indifference is what allowed the last two World Wars to happen. They both nearly destroyed the planet's economy and fragile semblence of peace. Imaging what a galactice scale war will be? Entire solar systems being attacked and subjegated... with us at the heart of it, in the most densely populated solar system in the galaxy.

But neither side will listen. Neither side will negotiate. Do you wish to vanquish both alliances through war? Such a war like that would be even more destructive than the world wars that will rage between those two alliance until they eventually vaporize each other.

Death is inevitable.

King Priam
-The Imperial Kingdom of Troy-

OOC: Is this an OOC or an IC thread? It's not very clear.

War is a necessity. If it comes it comes, and I will fight in it. I will fight. It will come whether we like it our not!

Bah, let the GDODAD and LAGD scoundrels slaughter each other. They'd be doing Troy a favor by destroying each other.

King Priam
-The Imperial Kingdom of Troy-^^^^ Example of the indifference of other nations to the GDODAD and the Allies ^^^^

That indifference is what allowed the last two World Wars to happen. They both nearly destroyed the planet's economy and fragile semblence of peace. Imaging what a galactice scale war will be? Entire solar systems being attacked and subjegated... with us at the heart of it, in the most densely populated solar system in the galaxy.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE COMPLEATE DISTRUCTION OF COMPLEATE PLANETS AND SYSTEMS! THINK TITAN A.E.!

Don't just think Titan A.E., think Nova Bombs from Andromeda, entire systems wiped out with the push of a button. The GDODAD will now have large space fleets, large enough to cause massive system destruction, planatary oblivion, the amlost total destruction of sentient life.

OOC: Good god, what a load of nonsense.

If you don't want to be destroyed by war, then just don't enter the war. It's called neutrality, and the general laws of war make it 'illegal' to draw a neutral country into the war.

In which case you'd end up RPing a military tribunal against the paticular general.

Anyways, we need a World War or two. It's only NationStates, not some huge real life implicating event.

Perhaps you have not dealt with the GDODAD before. They do not care what one nation thinks, they are cowards of the highest degree. There is no way that either side will back down. By the way, if I was thinking about myself and not others, I would have joined the GDODAD.

Oh god.......

I AM TELLING YOU BOTH TO STOP. THIS WILL ONLY LEAD TO WHAT YOU HATE MOST: INVASIONS. YOur running purly on Vendetta. NOW STOP, before billions die. This next WW will be a galactic one, I am sure of it

So what you are expecting is us to dismember our alliance, while the GDODAD is still operating? We won't stop intill GDODAD falls apart or is destroyed. Also, have you noticed that no GDODAD representives have responded?

Perhaps you have not dealt with the GDODAD before. They do not care what one nation thinks, they are cowards of the highest degree. There is no way that either side will back down. By the way, if I was thinking about myself and not others, I would have joined the GDODAD.

Oh god.......

I AM TELLING YOU BOTH TO STOP. THIS WILL ONLY LEAD TO WHAT YOU HATE MOST: INVASIONS. YOur running purly on Vendetta. NOW STOP, before billions die. This next WW will be a galactic one, I am sure of it

So what you are expecting is us to dismember our alliance, while the GDODAD is still operating? We won't stop intill GDODAD falls apart or is destroyed. Also, have you noticed that no GDODAD representives have responded?


OOC: Because the GDODAD members are not frickin on!

Sorry for bad language, but please, some of us are in college here!

Perhaps you have not dealt with the GDODAD before. They do not care what one nation thinks, they are cowards of the highest degree. There is no way that either side will back down. By the way, if I was thinking about myself and not others, I would have joined the GDODAD.

Oh god.......

I AM TELLING YOU BOTH TO STOP. THIS WILL ONLY LEAD TO WHAT YOU HATE MOST: INVASIONS. YOur running purly on Vendetta. NOW STOP, before billions die. This next WW will be a galactic one, I am sure of it

So what you are expecting is us to dismember our alliance, while the GDODAD is still operating? We won't stop intill GDODAD falls apart or is destroyed. Also, have you noticed that no GDODAD representives have responded?


OOC: Because the GDODAD members are not frickin on!

Sorry for bad language, but please, some of us are in college here!

OOC: College? I'm only in 9th grade :roll:

Perhaps you have not dealt with the GDODAD before. They do not care what one nation thinks, they are cowards of the highest degree. There is no way that either side will back down. By the way, if I was thinking about myself and not others, I would have joined the GDODAD.

Oh god.......

I AM TELLING YOU BOTH TO STOP. THIS WILL ONLY LEAD TO WHAT YOU HATE MOST: INVASIONS. YOur running purly on Vendetta. NOW STOP, before billions die. This next WW will be a galactic one, I am sure of it

So what you are expecting is us to dismember our alliance, while the GDODAD is still operating? We won't stop intill GDODAD falls apart or is destroyed. Also, have you noticed that no GDODAD representives have responded?

are you an idiot? I have told you agian and agian to BOTH dissolve, not just you

Oglethorpia: shut up, this speech was an IC thing by Senator Orion, trying to prevent war. Now go away, you annoy me.

OOC: Listen pall, the worst thing to do is to get mad at people in college at this time of year, for those ofyou who do not know, this is Midterm time, the second most important time in college.

Perhaps you have not dealt with the GDODAD before. They do not care what one nation thinks, they are cowards of the highest degree. There is no way that either side will back down. By the way, if I was thinking about myself and not others, I would have joined the GDODAD.

Oh god.......

I AM TELLING YOU BOTH TO STOP. THIS WILL ONLY LEAD TO WHAT YOU HATE MOST: INVASIONS. YOur running purly on Vendetta. NOW STOP, before billions die. This next WW will be a galactic one, I am sure of it

So what you are expecting is us to dismember our alliance, while the GDODAD is still operating? We won't stop intill GDODAD falls apart or is destroyed. Also, have you noticed that no GDODAD representives have responded?

are you an idiot? I have told you agian and agian to BOTH dissolve, not just you

Oglethorpia: shut up, this speech was an IC thing by Senator Orion, trying to prevent war. Now go away, you annoy me.

OOC: Well maybe I already know that GDODAD WILL NOT DISSOLVE, I'm through with this.

Oglethorpia: shut up, this speech was an IC thing by Senator Orion, trying to prevent war. Now go away, you annoy me.

Well, you're not too tolerable either. It's a public place, i'll remind you; you seem to have forgotten that little fact.

My post was OOC -- I can obviously understand the ICness of your post.

I was pointing out that NS would be pretty boring if everyone was happy and at peace; a war every once and a while (OOCly) is no big deal, you don't have to fight a war if you don't want too.

Oglethorpia: shut up, this speech was an IC thing by Senator Orion, trying to prevent war. Now go away, you annoy me.

Well, you're not too tolerable either. It's a public place, i'll remind you; you seem to have forgotten that little fact.

My post was OOC -- I can obviously understand the ICness of your post.

I was pointing out that NS would be pretty boring if everyone was happy and at peace; a war every once and a while (OOCly) is no big deal, you don't have to fight a war if you don't want too.

yes, I know, but I didn't enjoy your little "Good god, what a load of nonsense." stint. This is an IC post, this has nothing to do with OOC

OOC:

To be honest -- the following posts don't seem to come from any tangible In-Character source, so the whole thing on whether or not it's IC or OOC is a bit jumbled.

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IC:

We admire Senator Orion's appeal for peace -- but our own advice is to avoid war if you wish not to enter it.

-- Gordon Newell
Foreign Relations Bureau

OOC:

To be honest -- the following posts don't seem to come from any tangible In-Character source, so the whole thing on whether or not it's IC or OOC is a bit jumbled.

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IC:

We admire Senator Orion's appeal for peace -- but our own advice is to avoid war if you wish not to enter it.

-- Gordon Newell
Foreign Relations Bureau

OOC: Look at the end of my 1st post, it says "Senator Orion"

IC: We can't just avoid it, especaly if it is occuring all around us. That and we just don't want to see billions die for a false cause

War should only be used if necessary, which is it is obvious that there's no chance at reaching a peaceful agreement. We encourage both parties to be sensible when it comes to deciding to go to war.

--President Mike Shula
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OOC: Where there's war... there's a paycheck for me. I haven't chosen a side yet, but I respect TST's opinion, and thank him/her for the warning.

Contrary to all the propaganda that is floating around, GDODAD is not some imperialistic alliance that is out to destroy everybody and anything. GDODAD has yet to do anything actually, and in case you all haven't noticed, it's the "anti-GDODAD" nations that you sould be concerned about. Mere hours after it was announced that GDODAD was returning, almost a dozen nations quickly went up in arms, stating that they were ready to fight GDODAD. Now, that right there tells me something. It tells me that if war was to start, it most definatly be at the hands of the "anti-GDODAD" nations.

We at the GDODAD are not evil monsters hellbent on trampling anyone that looks at us the wrong way, oh no. We are simply a large gathering of dictators, that's all. How is it that democratic and capitalist countries can for alliances but dictators can't? That's because dictators are sterotyped as being the "bad" guys, when we're really not. Half of the stuff you hear about GDODAD is all hype by the "good" guys to smear the GDODAD. This my friends is extremely unfair to us. How are we not supposed to get mad when we have "anti-GDODAD" nations screaming at und spitting at us at every turn?

I can assure you, the GDODAD has no plans for mass global domination at all. I pray that the "anti-GDODAD" nations realize this and stop trying to provoke us into action that we wish to avoid.


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John Kimble
-AMF Information Ministry-
G.D.O.D.A.D

Very well post AMF, that's exactly what you should be doing. That is a offical GDODAD statement

Bah, who cares? It is their way of diplomacy and dealing of foreign affairs. As long as this does not concern us, it should be fine. Nontherless, we still say that Senator Orion does make a point. Nonetheless in this situation, the LAGD themselves are warmongerers if they started a war on GDODAD.

Our policy, after some experience with previous docterines and the destruction brings, is: as long as it doesn't bother you, don't bother them. Surely, some may think that's a little selfish in personal standards, or some may think that this isolates us, we think this is a "strategic" kind of way to maintain peace. The GDODAD doesn't bother us, we don't bother them. As long as we don't get into some "trouble" or "conflict" with GDODAD, it shouldn't be our responsibility to invade them -- unless, of course, they threaten us. Or in other "special" conditions.

Like our ally Oglethorpia said, if you don't want to participate in a war operation, don't join it. Avoid it, simply.

--Foreign Affairs Ministry

If GDODAD's resurgence is not to make war, then what is it? Surely if it was just for convenient new alliances you could've chosen a less remembered name, or dare I say, made up a new one. Yes, the Anti-GDODAD did come mere hours after GDODAD came back, but look over that last sentence.

Yes, the Anti-GDODAD did come mere hours after GDODAD came back. So who is instigating something here, we are attempting to forge a strong enough Alliance to make sure GDODAD does not go on the rampages of the past. Now this plan might not work, however if LAGD did not exist, the nations that they attacked would only recieve token assitance from the Internation community, now they would be facing another alliance. Perhaps you would trade your freedom for a false peace, however the Federal Republic will not

If GDODAD's resurgence is not to make war, then what is it? Surely if it was just for convenient new alliances you could've chosen a less remembered name, or dare I say, made up a new one. Yes, the Anti-GDODAD did come mere hours after GDODAD came back, but look over that last sentence.

Of course, if they make unjustified war, there should be some actions that go along iwth it. But in this situation, we still suggest seeking peace, at least, on the "good" end as many may call it.

If GDODAD's resurgence is not to make war, then what is it? Surely if it was just for convenient new alliances you could've chosen a less remembered name, or dare I say, made up a new one. Yes, the Anti-GDODAD did come mere hours after GDODAD came back, but look over that last sentence.

Yes, the Anti-GDODAD did come mere hours after GDODAD came back. So who is instigating something here, we are attempting to forge a strong enough Alliance to make sure GDODAD does not go on the rampages of the past. Now this plan might not work, however if LAGD did not exist, the nations that they attacked would only recieve token assitance from the Internation community, now they would be facing another alliance. Perhaps you would trade your freedom for a false peace, however the Federal Republic will not

Again, you make assumptions based on bias. We are a global gathering of dictators, and we just happen to oppose democracy, so we brought the name GDODAD back because it suited our ideals well. The "return" of GDODAD would not be so monumentally large had the "anti-GDODAD" nations not flown off the hook. THEY are what's making the GDODAD out to be an evil alliance of warmongers. I can assure you, GDOADAD is anything but that.

You speak of false peace? HA! There would be unconditional peace, however the "good" guys are a little bit too eager to fight the ones THEY deem evil. And you want to know what our purpose is? It's to give dictators a place where they can belong, a place where they won't be shunned and scorned by those democratic and capitalist countries.

The only reason there is this much discussion about GDODAD is because the "do-gooders" are afraid of anything that does not conform to THEIR beliefs.


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John Kimble
-AMF Information Ministry-
G.D.O.D.A.D

If GDODAD's resurgence is not to make war, then what is it? Surely if it was just for convenient new alliances you could've chosen a less remembered name, or dare I say, made up a new one. Yes, the Anti-GDODAD did come mere hours after GDODAD came back, but look over that last sentence.

Of course, if they make unjustified war, there should be some actions that go along iwth it. But in this situation, we still suggest seeking peace, at least, on the "good" end as many may call it.

Hence the push by many nations of LAGD that the Alliance will only go to war if GDODAD invades a soveriegn country without provocation (Provocation being an overt military attack on a GDODAD nation), otherwise diplomatic pressure would be exerted

With respect to Mr. Kimble's opinion on the matter, is it not true that the GDODAD is preparing to attack Imperial Forces? a Close examination (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=95296) of the Silver Turtle's announcement to the world states their intent to launch an invasion.

This isn't an alliance of diplomatic proportions. As a supporter of democracy and civil rights, Chimaea has a duty to help defend against the attacks and intents of such an alliance.

We respect Senator Orion and President Shula's views; however, we can only give the guarantee that we will not make the first move.

~Janet Clarkson
Chimaean UN Ambassador

With respect to Mr. Kimble's opinion on the matter, is it not true that the GDODAD is preparing to attack Imperial Forces? a Close examination (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=95296) of the Silver Turtle's announcement to the world states their intent to launch an invasion.



True, it is no secret that TST and others don't like Imperial Forces, and that is THEIR business, not the GDODAD's. I can assure you that the GDODAD is not planning to invade Imperial Forces. GDODAD members may be staging something, but the alliance as a whole is not.

Besides, there are other ways to cripple a country than invsion. How do you know the GDODAD will not cripple Imperial Forces's economy with mass trade?

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John Kimble
-AMF Information Ministry-

*sigh* I knew neither side would step down. Oh well. Just try to not destroy to many planets in the war......

True, it is no secret that TST and others don't like Imperial Forces, and that is THEIR business, not the GDODAD's. I can assure you that the GDODAD is not planning to invade Imperial Forces. GDODAD members may be staging something, but the alliance as a whole is not.

Besides, there are other ways to cripple a country than invsion. How do you know the GDODAD will not cripple Imperial Forces's economy with mass trade?

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John Kimble
-AMF Information Ministry-

Oh, excellent tactics, Mr. Kimble... GDODAD isn't involved in this military invasion, only two-thirds of its members are!

The LAGD could easily counter that: the LAGD isn't officially involved in the invasion of several GDODAD nations, only two-thirds of its members are!

Bullshit.

-Foreign Affairs-

Oh, excellent tactics, Mr. Kimble... GDODAD isn't involved in this military invasion, only two-thirds of its members are!

The LAGD could easily counter that: the LAGD isn't officially involved in the invasion of several GDODAD nations, only two-thirds of its members are!

Bullshit.

-Foreign Affairs-

Look at the statement. TST specifically said that Ineffable fleets were moving into position along with Ineffable navy, along with other GDODAD nation's forces. I can assure you that the alliance as a whole is not getting involved. AMF is not, Nod is not, LCS is not, and that is the majority of the cabinet members.

Stop skewing the facts. Nations that are GDODAD members are going to strike IF, not the GDODAD as a whole. Your unfair generalizations that all of the GDODAD is going to war are near laughable.

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John Kimble
-AMF Information Ministry-
G.D.O.D.A.D

Oh, excellent tactics, Mr. Kimble... GDODAD isn't involved in this military invasion, only two-thirds of its members are!

The LAGD could easily counter that: the LAGD isn't officially involved in the invasion of several GDODAD nations, only two-thirds of its members are!

Bullshit.

-Foreign Affairs-

Look at the statement. TST specifically said that Ineffable fleets were moving into position along with Ineffable navy, along with other GDODAD nation's forces. I can assure you that the alliance as a whole is not getting involved. AMF is not, Nod is not, LCS is not, and that is the majority of the cabinet members.

Stop skewing the facts. Nations that are GDODAD members are going to strike IF, not the GDODAD as a whole. Your unfair generalizations that all of the GDODAD is going to war are near laughable.

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John Kimble
-AMF Information Ministry-
G.D.O.D.A.D

"And as I recall, he began that portion of his speech with 'Imperial Forces, our old enemy. You are our first target.' And bracketed the warning to Imperial Forces with matching declarations that 'The GDODAD is back!' If this is not a GDODAD operation, The Silver Turtle certainly did an excellent job of disguising it as such. Not that I necessarily disbelieve you. But perhaps your leadership should be a little more careful in future declarations."

- Sophia Kahler, Secretary of Foreign Affairs (LIVE! from the FPS Silverton)

TST specifically said that Ineffable fleets were moving into position along with Ineffable navy, along with other GDODAD nation's forces.

Hmm... of course The Silver Turtle announced the movements of their fleets! They are their fleets afterall... Besides the point, TST never specified how many other GDODAD nations were mobilizing nor how large of forces they were sending.

Now this comment:

Yes, the moment you have all feared is finally revealed, The GDODAD is back!
Imperial Forces, our old enemy. You are our first target.

From this statement, one would assume when TST uses 'our', he is still referring to the GDODAD. Now, it strikes me as an odd situation that The Silver Turtle would attack an old GDODAD enemy immediately after its reincarnation... I surely doubt that this attack was just an attack to be made by TST. It is clear that TST is referring that Imperial Forces will be the GDODAD's first target. And right after that was announced, it was announced the mobilization of TST and GDODAD forces.

I rest my case.

-President Carter-

From this statement, one would assume when TST uses 'our', he is still referring to the GDODAD. Now, it strikes me as an odd situation that The Silver Turtle would attack an old GDODAD enemy immediately after its reincarnation... I surely doubt that this attack was just an attack to be made by TST. It is clear that TST is referring that Imperial Forces will be the GDODAD's first target. And right after that was announced, it was announced the mobilization of TST and GDODAD forces.

I rest my case.

That statement is subject to interpretation. You interpret it as GDODAD is striking IF immediatly, I interpret it as GDODAD members are striking IF.

Again, AMF is not attacing, enither is Nod, LCS, or most of the Senior Members. Hence, the GDODAD is not mobilizing.

I rest my case.


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John Kimble
-AMF Information Ministry-
G.D.O.D.A.D

And may we ask, other than GDODAD nations, who is attacking Imperial Forces?

-Foreign Affairs-

And may we ask, other than GDODAD nations, who is attacking Imperial Forces?

-Foreign Affairs-

Nations from the Coalition of Evil. I myslef am not sure who is attacking, because we have nothing to do with it.

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John Kimble
-AMF Information Ministry-
G.D.O.D.A.D

From this statement, one would assume when TST uses 'our', he is still referring to the GDODAD. Now, it strikes me as an odd situation that The Silver Turtle would attack an old GDODAD enemy immediately after its reincarnation... I surely doubt that this attack was just an attack to be made by TST. It is clear that TST is referring that Imperial Forces will be the GDODAD's first target. And right after that was announced, it was announced the mobilization of TST and GDODAD forces.

I rest my case.

That statement is subject to interpretation. You interpret it as GDODAD is striking IF immediatly, I interpret it as GDODAD members are striking IF.

Again, AMF is not attacing, enither is Nod, LCS, or most of the Senior Members. Hence, the GDODAD is not mobilizing.

I rest my case.


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John Kimble
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"Such a statement should never be subject to interpretation. Such a statement should always be clear. The blame for the misunderstanding rests solely at the feet of the Ineffable Bob."

- Sophia Kahler, Secretary of Foreign Affairs (LIVE! from the FPS Silverton)

Why should we listen? We were tricked, betrayed, and repressed by the GDODAD, but no longer! The GDODAD was the cause of death for hundreds of millions of our people. They were the death of billions of others. WE WILL HAVE OUR REVENGE AND COMPENSATION! WE WILL CRUSH THE FOUL BODIES OF THE GDODAD BEFORE US AND WE WILL REJOICE AT THEIR ANNHILATION!

"Such a statement should never be subject to interpretation. Such a statement should always be clear. The blame for the misunderstanding rests solely at the feet of the Ineffable Bob."

- Sophia Kahler, Secretary of Foreign Affairs (LIVE! from the FPS Silverton)

Yes, perhaps the Ineffable Bob should choose his media personnel more carefully.

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Oh come now... the exact quote is this:

People of Nationstates, quake in fear!
The time of the apocalypse is now, the end is nigh...
Yes, the moment you have all feared is finally revealed, The GDODAD is back!
Imperial Forces, our old enemy. You are our first target. Even as I say this, the third Ineffable spacefleet positions itself above you. Ineffable navies are drawing near, along with many other GDODAD forces.
The GDODAD is back, and there is nothing you can do about it!
Mwahahahahahahaha!

Let's examine this closely: first TSF says that the "time of the apocalypse is near"; in the line following comes the announcement that the GDODAD is back. We can safely say that the time of the apocalypse is near because of the return of GDODAD.

Then, and this is important: then the words are: "Imperial Forces, our old enemy." Imperial Forces, our old enemy, coming just after the announcement that GDODAD is back!

Who's old enemy? TSF's, certainly; but not only the TSF, but GDODAD's too. "Our first target", not "my first target".

True TSF announces what their own spacefleet is doing, but counters it with "and many other GDODAD forces." I think it's pretty clear that all those forces are under the GDODAD banner.

I find Mr. Kimble's assertion that the GDODAD isn't attacking IF to be fairly naive. The leader of GDODAD is launching a war, under the GDODAD banner, against IF. If Automagfreek does not want to be part of this, perhaps they should leave GDODAD, or at least post a public protest against these actions in the name of GDODAD.

Why should we listen? We were tricked, betrayed, and repressed by the GDODAD, but no longer! The GDODAD was the cause of death for hundreds of millions of our people. They were the death of billions of others. WE WILL HAVE OUR REVENGE AND COMPENSATION! WE WILL CRUSH THE FOUL BODIES OF THE GDODAD BEFORE US AND WE WILL REJOICE AT THEIR ANNHILATION!

ADK,
Actually it was Russian Forces who killed the hundreds of millions.

Anyways, I have a feeling that with the stronger base, this GDODAD will take back the greatness of the old alliance. And I KNOW that this little LAGD alliance won't do crap.

Oh come now... the exact quote is this:

People of Nationstates, quake in fear!
The time of the apocalypse is now, the end is nigh...
Yes, the moment you have all feared is finally revealed, The GDODAD is back!
Imperial Forces, our old enemy. You are our first target. Even as I say this, the third Ineffable spacefleet positions itself above you. Ineffable navies are drawing near, along with many other GDODAD forces.
The GDODAD is back, and there is nothing you can do about it!
Mwahahahahahahaha!

Let's examine this closely: first TSF says that the "time of the apocalypse is near"; in the line following comes the announcement that the GDODAD is back. We can safely say that the time of the apocalypse is near because of the return of GDODAD.

Then, and this is important: then the words are: "Imperial Forces, our old enemy." Imperial Forces, our old enemy, coming just after the announcement that GDODAD is back!

Who's old enemy? TSF's, certainly; but not only the TSF, but GDODAD's too. "Our first target", not "my first target".

True TSF announces what their own spacefleet is doing, but counters it with "and many other GDODAD forces." I think it's pretty clear that all those forces are under the GDODAD banner.

I find Mr. Kimble's assertion that the GDODAD isn't attacking IF to be fairly naive. The leader of GDODAD is launching a war, under the GDODAD banner, against IF. If Automagfreek does not want to be part of this, perhaps they should leave GDODAD, or at least post a public protest against these actions in the name of GDODAD.

Oh come now, you are being too literal.

I'm sure the "time of the apocalypse" statement was directed at Imperial Forces, because TST and other nations that happen to be members of GDODAD are attacking, or at least are saying they are, I have yet to see mobilization.

Again, you're being too literal, and your generalizations of all GDODAD members are unfair.

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If anything, SATO will be the new GDODAD's downfall...

The Triumverate of Yut or The Order of the Seraphim could easily destroy GDODAD, except that I'm assuming GDODAD is only modern tech

You speak of our downfall, yet we have done what?

Nothing. We have made no military mobilizations, we have made no moves to invade anyone, we have done nothing to deserve so much hostility. I must say I am dissappointed. Even Lord Melkor, reputed to by the most evil of rulers doesn't get THIS kind of attention...

And he actually does things to deserve this reaction! The GDODAD is not even a week old, has not made one aggresive move and yet it has three alliances against it already.

Yes, I said aggressive MOVE. Anyone can make threats. You people are proof of that. TST made a threat. I admit it was stupid to put it in the announcement that the GDODAD is back, but hindsight is 20/20.

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Overlord's comment: "He stopped my paper cut from bleeding."

Why should we listen? We were tricked, betrayed, and repressed by the GDODAD, but no longer! The GDODAD was the cause of death for hundreds of millions of our people. They were the death of billions of others. WE WILL HAVE OUR REVENGE AND COMPENSATION! WE WILL CRUSH THE FOUL BODIES OF THE GDODAD BEFORE US AND WE WILL REJOICE AT THEIR ANNHILATION!

ADK,
Actually it was Russian Forces who killed the hundreds of millions.

Anyways, I have a feeling that with the stronger base, this GDODAD will take back the greatness of the old alliance. And I KNOW that this little LAGD alliance won't do crap.

Maybe they wouldn't have died if GDODAD hadn't given the order. The Bajonis withdrew their support of us. As did TST and almost all other GDODAD nations. Klamath and Walten even invaded. The only GDODAD member that helped was Iraqstan...

Too literal? When the leader of an organisation that proudly states that it's "evil" announces that they're going to invade a nation, there's not much leeway in the way it can be interpreted.

Yes a lot of people make threats... but this is no threat. Why?

Even as I say this, the third Ineffable spacefleet positions itself above you. Ineffable navies are drawing near, along with many other GDODAD forces.

That's why.

Even as I say this, the third Ineffable spacefleet positions itself above you. Ineffable navies are drawing near, along with many other GDODAD forces.

That's why.

Again, that is subject to interpretation.

He means that forces from nations that happen to be in GDODAD are participating, and AGAIN, I am telling you that the alliance as a whole is not participating. I should know, AMF is the country in charge of being the GDODAD's voice.

I can tell nothing I say can convince you otherwise, so let's just end this conversation, shall we?


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Hmm not quite... I've got an idea.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2174673

There we go. :) It'll all be cleared up.

Even Lord Melkor, reputed to by the most evil of rulers doesn't get THIS kind of attention...

And he actually does things to deserve this reaction!

I think that has to do with the fact that when any coalition declares war on him, he ignores half the nations, and constently restarts the war, until every one quits.