NationStates Jolt Archive

I refuse to become jaded. I refuse to become cool and hip and cynical. I still have expectations, and I still feel frustrated when they are not met. I had expectations about NationStates, and yes, I feel frustrated. Instead of a place that really had much at all to do about simulating control of a nation, thoughtful discussion of relevant issues, and generation of forward looking ideas about society (all things that I assumed would be somewhat of a commonality in readers of JG) I found a place that seemed mostly populated by every political shade under the sun, that had one thing in common, trying to duke it out over some piece of arcana that pertained to whatever CNN had served for dinner that day. There was no real passion in the arguments, only inflamed sentiment and bluster. I am, by contradiction to my opening sentence, a pessimist. Or rather, as I put it, a realist. I expect things to fail, but conversely, I am troubled by their failure. This gives me a drive to see things change. So far on NationStates I have tried posting on the General Forums, had my hand at RP (which usually turned out ridiculous and bordering on idiot-modding), and open topics of discussion, which almost always degenerated into i'm right - you're wrong typing matches. What can I do different, or where should I look to better enjoy my experience here? For such a wealth of knowledge that gathers at this site, it could be far better used than as a place for people to bitch at eachother. Any ideas?

OOC: I think someone once said this.

"The quality of your life is dependant on the quality of the company you keep."

Keep in touch with people that are equal to your calibre of quality, and you won't go wrong. And of course, pay no mind to that idiot heckler behind the curtain.

However, this is best served in a different forum, as opposed to an IC forum.

CO-RP.

Character Oriented Role Play. No wars. No uber-fleets. Just one person interacting with another person. If you can pull off the amount of detail that has to go into a CO-RP, you no longer have to do any RP wars. And when you do... inject CO-RP in it, make your general hacve a short disussion of the tactic and then implement it.

Basicly... if you end up with an RP that resembles a movie in terms of characters and action, you did good.

The General Forum is quabble. The International Incidents is a lesson in how not to squabble. I can only recommend the NationStates forum. Some of its RPs are poor, but some are very good.

Anyone?

Anyone?*points to my post*

if you don't like it then go home :P


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There are very good RPers and RPing games in the NS forums. At least I like many of them, you just need to make a search...

"Not really what I expected". I agree - While I'm new; I have not been able to find much political discussion in the forums. While on the other hand most discussions about about how NS works are mostly related to server problems or new features (without any idea what would be required to implement them).

For example I have been looking for any discussion on how it is possible to even have an economy at all with 100% taxation! Seems to me that the issues should be more finely tuned. (I assume that will be less of a problem now that there are more issues in the system).

well, I'm really interested in the idea of Moral Dilemma right now. I work for the US government, and know beyond a doubt, that it is not some lurking evil organization bent on the destruction of the planet. What it is, is a bureaucratic, bloated, confusing, maze-like, contradictory, well intentioned, poor on results, and almost surreal entity. I have a lot of moral dilemmas in my own life because of my involvement. I write a lot in my spare time, and lately a lot of my writing has been in the vein of how do characters that have moral questions concerning what they do, really behave, if they are at gunpoint situations. I'd like to come up with a good RP that involved no more than 3-4 characters, and set it in an area of conflict. Any bright ideas?

if you don't like it then go home :P




Now I believe all those people who said that kids posted on here. I thought they were joking.

You will have to excuse Normack. He is a general forum user and is obvious not aware of the standard of etiquette in the NationStates forum.

CO-RP.

Character Oriented Role Play. No wars. No uber-fleets. Just one person interacting with another person. If you can pull off the amount of detail that has to go into a CO-RP, you no longer have to do any RP wars. And when you do... inject CO-RP in it, make your general hacve a short disussion of the tactic and then implement it.

Basicly... if you end up with an RP that resembles a movie in terms of characters and action, you did good.

What sort of ideas do you have?

I write a lot in my spare time, and lately a lot of my writing has been in the vein of how do characters that have moral questions concerning what they do, really behave, if they are at gunpoint situations. I'd like to come up with a good RP that involved no more than 3-4 characters, and set it in an area of conflict. Any bright ideas?
Sounds tempting. But for this kind of RP you'd undoubtedly need a specific player to deal with the overall plot. That way, other players can concentrate on the inside of their characters, dealing with what the game master has put on their way. I designed a pen & paper RPG (called Underaloz, heh) where the characters are in a kind of gigantic test... but unaware of it. These kind of situations happen a lot during the sessions.

if you don't like it then go home :P




Now I believe all those people who said that kids posted on here. I thought they were joking.

ouch!! that hurt!!!

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Well, how about no one person in control, but running two threads simulantaneously. One to carry the current of the thread, and the other for discussion on what was happening in it. With a good choice of setting, parameters, style, etc, you could have a heck of a good time.

You will have to excuse Normack. He is a general forum user and is obvious not aware of the standard of etiquette in the NationStates forum.

I am thee General Forum user

I have been here longer then most of you

I know that if you are not happy with something you move on.. you don't complain

if someone is god modding in your RP then don't rp with them.

if you wanna continue RPing then deal with the bad so that you can enjoy the good

don't get so worked up, no need to.. it's just a game

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What sort of ideas do you have?What races are in your nation? What professions? What types of ideas do your people have? How outgoing are they?

These are just the first questions to ask yourself. Then you must pick and choose which you want your character to have. Then twist some of the answers to make them an individual, not just a clone of the majority.

Well, how about no one person in control, but running two threads simulantaneously. One to carry the current of the thread, and the other for discussion on what was happening in it. With a good choice of setting, parameters, style, etc, you could have a heck of a good time.
I'm quite unsure about such a setting. I doubt you could bring interesting moral issues if you weren't to be confronted to something you cannot control. To me, a player creating a specific situation to confront his own character with it is heading for intellectual masturbation. Only when the moral question asked is unexpected would you have real choices to make and would you have to RP your character properly.
That's the main point of free-form CO-RP as it is practiced around here. Most of the time, I try to put characters from other players into specific situations and let them put my own characters into situations they have in mind. But I know for sure a lot of players just act a completly opposite way.
Whether you have central control in the RP or whether you pass the control from one player to another, the real issue is to know who's setting up a situation for whom. Having central control helps.
The idea of dividing the thread into 2 seems a little too much to me, especially if you go for such a limited number of player as 3 or 4.

I am thee General Forum user I thought that was NEE. :twisted:

I have been here longer then most of you and?

I know that if you are not happy with something you move on.. you don't complain you complain if the problem can be solved easily, but otherwise you are correct.

if someone is god modding in your RP then don't rp with them. agreed

if you wanna continue RPing then deal with the bad so that you can enjoy the good agreed

don't get so worked up, no need to.. it's just a game I never get worked up

I am thee General Forum user I thought that was NEE. :twisted:



I was the first person to reach 10000 posts

I did it in 6 weeks

I did it without spamming, posting the same message 6 times in a row, saying "hello?" 8 times to get someones attention, quoteing myself to make sure everyone had seen it, writing stuff like "drinks coffie" whenever no one posts to that thread.


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I did it without spamming, posting the same message 6 times in a row, saying "hello?" 8 times to get someones attention, quoteing myself to make sure everyone had seen it, writing stuff like "drinks coffie" whenever no one posts to that thread.
How insightful.

I did it without spamming, posting the same message 6 times in a row, saying "hello?" 8 times to get someones attention, quoteing myself to make sure everyone had seen it, writing stuff like "drinks coffie" whenever no one posts to that thread.
How insightful.

just comparing myself to Nee

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The NEE remark was only a joke. Unlike general-forumers (no offense) I view players on their RP skills, not their post counts.

I'm a relative NOOB. I don't know who NEE is/was. He/She isn't posting on this thread right now, so the existence of NEE as far as NationStates goes is irrelevant to this thread. So is a virtual pissing contest over who reach 10000 posts. Am I supposed to be impressed? Were they 10000 well-thought out, clearly structured, insightful posts? If they were, then you just took over Henry Miller's place at the top of my list of people who have said a lot of meaningful things. Seriously though. Aside from injecting yourself and your logo into a thread I started (which seems to me as intrusive as an unwanted pop-up), you've only taken time in here to attack what I said, criticize others over something as trivial as who has posted more times, and boost yourself and the way you behave, and then contradicting yourselve in the same sentence. I'm amused.

I'm a relative NOOB. You are NOT a n00b.

Newbie: New to the site, still learing how to RP on NS.

n00bie: Older Newbie that is making a lot of mistakes and is making little effort to fix them.

n00b: A newbie that has become a pain in the ass.

Elder n00b: A n00b that has been around a while.

Reverted n00b: An older nation that RPs like crap, after many good months of great RP

You are a newbie.

*beats self with cat o' nine tails, repeats..."I will not become a n00b"*