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The First Methody Regional Conference

Kamsaki
17-11-2003, 12:01
< 1:15 PM, MST >

Towards the eastern rim of the region of Methody is situated a fairly small, unobtrusive town, officially recognised as Whitla by most (although some of its citizens have given it slightly more original names). High up in the Kirkwood mountains, the residency suffers from rather an unusual complex, in that they’re never quite sure which of the neighbouring Nations they are a part of. This may be due to some confusion remaining from the recent break-up of the McCullough Empire; the aftermath of which caused the formation of around thirty smaller countries and governments.

However, the people of Whitla would hasten to point out that the border between Kamsaki and Peteronia is very clearly marked out by the town. The problem is where exactly it’s situated: “You are now leaving Kamsaki. Outer ring: 5 miles,” can be read hanging from a sign mid-way along its main High Street (right outside Granny Fenchurch’s Bakery).

The net result of this is that one half of the town experiences somewhat higher tax-rates than the other in exchange for slightly better civil rights. Both of the nations’ governments have used this to their advantage. For a start, increased trading between the two nations has led to an alliance being formed in both military and economic fields, but more importantly, Whitla has been declared Neutral Territory within the region, thus forming an ideal congregation point for all regional meetings or conferences. Within the last two weeks, the finishing touches have been placed on an expansive convention centre within five miles of Methody’s International Airport.

It’s at this centre that today’s meeting would take place. It’s the first regional meeting since its formation; already, press teams have started to gather around the complex in preparation for the day’s events, eager to grab snapshots of the many National leaders from across the area.

Inside, the delegation from Kamsaki rushes to make the last-minute preparations. Placards are being distributed to the various seats, debate topics are being photocopied and the mini-sausage rolls, sandwiches and vegetarian alternatives are being kept warm. Everything would no doubt be ready by two o’clock, though, when the first ever Methody-regional conference would begin…


((OOC (Out of character): Welcome all! For those of you new to roleplaying in this context, the conference itself will soon be starting, after which point you can simply talk as you would on the regional board. Feel free to mess around until then; actions can be denoted through italicised text, *Action*’s or <Action>’s, or really any way you feel like. Just remember that since this’s the NationStates forum, Roleplay Etiquette must really be enforced outside of discussion. If you’re still clueless, you can either read up on the other topics, PM me or simply wait for the conference to begin. Have fun! :D

If you're not a member of the Methody region, then this topic doesn't really apply to you. Please PM any comments you'd like to make, since no nation outside our region will be present at this meeting))
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 14:53
As the time for the conference approaches, a limo with a registration from The People's Republic of Jao e Tinukaii pulls up in front of the building. As the First Among Equals of The People's Republic of Jao e Tinukaii gets out, the centre's higly efficient security service escort him into the building through the Press.

Nodding at a few familiar faces, the First Among Equals passes his briefcase to an aide and sits down, idly leafing through the Programme provided by the staff.
17-11-2003, 14:55
hey peoples, what is this meeting about?
Peteronia
17-11-2003, 14:55
<Arrives>

Welcome. In a few minutes, I'll officially open this. So sit back, and enjoy the mini sandwiches and sausage rolls!
Peteronia
17-11-2003, 14:59
<action>

Soon, all the nations from Methody start arriving in their various means of transport. A stretch limo arrives containing the UN delegate, and President of Peteronia. He is also quickly escorted through the building to his seat at the Chair's position. He prepares to open the summit as the time approaches.
Peteronia
17-11-2003, 15:01
As UN delegate, Regional founder, President of Peteronia and Govenor of Finonia la Hadita, I declare this summit officially open. <bangs gavel> I call the floor to order. Now, bring your issues to florr so we can discuss them.
17-11-2003, 15:01
<action>

The dictator Fairyweather pulls up in a motorbike, hops off and makes his servants wipe him down and dress him ready for some serious talking
Arturria
17-11-2003, 15:02
<Arrives with a large group of committee members, secretaries, assistants etc from the USSA Government. All are seated and start shuffling papers>

What are your policies and politics for the region, Peteronia? (Just to clear that up)
Kamsaki
17-11-2003, 15:05
The Delegate from Kamsaki, already present at the convention centre, is currently standing at the foyer of the entrance hall to the conference rooms. Many members of the Kamsaki Paparrazi have been enthusiastically taking photos of the handshakes between him and the entering Leaders. More than a few shots are taken as a heart-felt welcome is given to the representatives for Fairyweather, Jao e Tinukaii and Peteronia; all involved parties smiling with the sort of practiced grin that politicians reserve especially for the newspapers.

With the opening call to order, President Myushu Kamsaki takes his seat in the debate hall, in preparation for the oncoming debate.

(( Fairy; you'll see soon enough. ^__^ ))
Peteronia
17-11-2003, 15:07
The region of Methody, as stated in the world factbook entry, is a culmination of ideas. I believe that each country in the region can have any type of government/political system. But countries should respect, other nation's ideas. Live and let live, basically. Also, I strive for peace in the region.
17-11-2003, 15:08
what military actions have been taken to defend the region of Methody?
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 15:09
<stands up>

The First Among Equals of The People's Republic of Jao e Tinukaii would prefer that it was mentioned, that unless people listen ((hit refresh every 10 secs or so)) answers will be delayed and inappropriate.
Thank you

<sits down>
Kamsaki
17-11-2003, 15:09
Question: Wouldn't it be wise to let everyone get here before opening discussion?
Arturria
17-11-2003, 15:09
Very Good. :)

Ok then. So what about the current UN resolution? Isnt it just ridiculous? We think so.
Peteronia
17-11-2003, 15:10
I concur with Kamsaki. <bangs gavel> We shall take a short recess to wait for the other nations. <Gets to work on the sausage rolls>
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 15:11
We would agree.

A literal interpretation means that anything tecnichally alive is too precious to eat.
17-11-2003, 15:11
<action>

the dictator of fairyweather snaps his fingers to summon his servants. He orders them towards the sausage rolls
Kamsaki
17-11-2003, 15:12
As we have said before, Kamsaki has numerous concerns on the current UN resolution; namely whether or not it actually prohibits the consumption of living entities, whether an Apple, for example, has the same life to right as a human foetus, and whether fly swatting would thus be an offense punishible by life sentencing...
Arturria
17-11-2003, 15:12
I think its unfair to postpone! People were told to come at 2! They either dont care about the region or are late. And if theyre late, they can just read up on the topic.

<The whole USSA group begin devouring sausage rolls at an alarming rate>
Peteronia
17-11-2003, 15:13
OOC I said a few minutes., Thats all I've given.

IC

<bangs gavel> I call the floor to order to continues the discussion of the issue of the presnt resolution.
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 15:13
As we have said before, Kamsaki has numerous concerns on the current UN resolution; namely whether or not it actually prohibits the consumption of living entities, whether an Apple, for example, has the same life to right as a human foetus, and whether fly swatting would thus be an offense punishible by life sentencing...

The point is moot

Votes For: 6337

Votes Against: 7087
17-11-2003, 15:14
the dictator of fairyweather whishes to comment on this. He thinks that it is stupid and we should go on slaughtering animals for our food.
Peteronia
17-11-2003, 15:15
I agree with Fairyweather. Maybe not in those words. But, yes, indeed.
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 15:15
the dictator of fairyweather whishes to comment on this. He thinks that it is stupid and we should go on slaughtering animals for our food.

<speaks through sandwhich>

i agree. These Kamsaki Sqiireldogs, for example, are delicious. :twisted:
Arturria
17-11-2003, 15:16
The USSA group wish to congratulate all the UN members publicly who decided to vote AGAINST this resolution. Good on yer!
Kamsaki
17-11-2003, 15:16
the dictator of fairyweather whishes to comment on this. He thinks that it is stupid and we should go on slaughtering animals for our food.

Although perhaps not in those terms, to an extent Kamsaki agrees with this. Perhaps a more humanitarian way of keeping livestock would be in order, but to command the world to halt their primary source of protein would be "stupid", to use Fairyweather's word.
Peteronia
17-11-2003, 15:17
Indeed. So we are all agreed that this resolution is nonsense, and is going to be kicked out anyway?
17-11-2003, 15:18
yes.
Kamsaki
17-11-2003, 15:18
<speaks through sandwhich>

i agree. These Kamsaki Sqiireldogs, for example, are delicious. :twisted:

You'll find, actually, that the squirreldogs are in very short supply. We have both a taste issue and an environmental issue with the consumption of squirrels; IE, we don't really. Besides, we think they're fuzzy and cute. Well, the red ones, anyway.
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 15:19
The USSA group wish to congratulate all the UN members publicly who decided to vote AGAINST this resolution. Good on yer!

We reccomend that all nations who have not voted against do so now.

This will strengthen the opposition and weaken the resolution.
17-11-2003, 15:19
Honourable delegates, I propose to set up a grey squirrel free environment for red squirrels.
Arturria
17-11-2003, 15:19
<USSA Group shuffle papers. Artur stands up and declares: >

Yes. Throw it out.


PS We believe that in a discussion like this people should quote what they reply to. Thats a bit hypocritical for this post but we'll quote from henceforth.
Peteronia
17-11-2003, 15:20
Yes indeed. Its doubtful that your could sstisfy a whole nation with a supply of squirrels. I eman how many sausages could you get out of a squirrel?
Peteronia
17-11-2003, 15:21
An interesting idea fairyweather.
17-11-2003, 15:21
A good question, not many is the answer...possibly 2. This is why I think squirrel farming would be a good idea
Kamsaki
17-11-2003, 15:21
Honourable delegates, I propose to set up a grey squirrel free environment for red squirrels.

A decent suggestion, but might I suggest a simple segregation? If anyone would wish to trade red squirrels for grey squirrels, then we would be happy to accommodate such a request.
Peteronia
17-11-2003, 15:22
would you really want ot eat squirrels?
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 15:22
how many sausages could you get out of a squirrel?

Please answer, Kamsaki. I am thinking of importing a supply, for scienific reasons, of course.
Arturria
17-11-2003, 15:23
Honourable delegates, I propose to set up a grey squirrel free environment for red squirrels.

Thats an interesting idea but its been done. Setting up reserves and all that. Reminds me of the NI problem. :wink:
17-11-2003, 15:24
well what is the difference between eating squirrel and other animals such as pigs? Also it will become a world famous delicacy therefore boosting our tourism, giving me more power...i mean the region of methody more money. *ahem*
Kamsaki
17-11-2003, 15:24
Hehe... Jao, we believe that 5 decently sized sausages can be formed from a single squirrel, provided that you don't mind the tail.

In any case, Peteronia, it seems that our honourable delegate from Jao e Tinukaii would be more than happy to go into the squirrel industry.

Needless to say, he'll have to get them from somewhere else. >_>
Peteronia
17-11-2003, 15:25
Honourable delegates, I propose to set up a grey squirrel free environment for red squirrels.

Thats an interesting idea but its been done. Setting up reserves and all that. Reminds me of the NI problem. :wink:

What exactly?
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 15:25
Perhaps this discussion is a bit off topic

<looks to podium>

Perhaps Peteronia has any issues he wishes to discuss...
Peteronia
17-11-2003, 15:26
You were the ones who asked for a meeting, I presumed you had something to talk about.
Arturria
17-11-2003, 15:26
Honourable delegates, I propose to set up a grey squirrel free environment for red squirrels.

Thats an interesting idea but its been done. Setting up reserves and all that. Reminds me of the NI problem. :wink:

What exactly?

Catholics and Protestants wanting to live separately.

BTW Peteronia, you havent called us back to order yet.
Peteronia
17-11-2003, 15:27
I have actually artur.
Kamsaki
17-11-2003, 15:27
Kamsaki simply agreed to host it at request of the honourable delegate from Arturria. I believe more important issues were to be discussed, should certain delegates eventually arrive.
17-11-2003, 15:27
<question, who is Jao?>
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 15:28
You were the ones who asked for a meeting

It was only requested because of many *ahem* misunderstandings due to delay between posts

<sends aide scurrying for the last of the squirreldogs>
Arturria
17-11-2003, 15:28
You were the ones who asked for a meeting, I presumed you had something to talk about.

People wanted to discuss the problems of the Methody region.

Maybe we could have elections for UN delegacy? Where each person can only vote once or something like that.
Peteronia
17-11-2003, 15:28
<guesses whixh ones>

I wonder what the chances are of them actually appearing?
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 15:28
<question, who is Jao?>

See enclosed telegram
17-11-2003, 15:30
Maybe they are in town or something, or maybe have homework as they are enjoying their extra day off....
Peteronia
17-11-2003, 15:31
People wanted to discuss the problems of the Methody region.

Maybe we could have elections for UN delegacy? Where each person can only vote once or something like that.

So you mean like a one man, one vote thing?
Kamsaki
17-11-2003, 15:31
In any case, could Arturria please state whether or not he plans to run for Delegateship?
Arturria
17-11-2003, 15:31
We doubt most people will turn up. They probably dont visit the NS site often enough to know about this meeting.
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 15:32
You were the ones who asked for a meeting, I presumed you had something to talk about.

People wanted to discuss the problems of the Methody region.

Maybe we could have elections for UN delegacy? Where each person can only vote once or something like that.

Possibly, but instead of withdrawing endorsements from our current
delegate, EVERYONE endorses our new one, at least temporarily...
Peteronia
17-11-2003, 15:32
Indeed, are your trying to be elected?
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 15:33
So you mean like a one man, one vote thing?

more.. one nation one vote
Arturria
17-11-2003, 15:33
In any case, could Arturria please state whether or not he plans to run for Delegateship?

The USSA do plan to run for UN Delegateship. We accept the responsibilities that this position would carry and would run the Methody region fairly and justly.
Peteronia
17-11-2003, 15:34
Indeed
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 15:35
:?: ... and would run the Methody region fairly and justly.

What is your idea of that??
Bearing in mind that not all nations are democracies...
Peteronia
17-11-2003, 15:36
yes, pray tell.
Arturria
17-11-2003, 15:38
:?: ... and would run the Methody region fairly and justly.

What is your idea of that??

Listening to what everyone has to say. Allowing each nation to have their own beliefs and policies. &c.

And Im not saying that Peteronia doesnt do this. Peteronia is a fine delegate.
Peteronia
17-11-2003, 15:39
Thank you Artur.
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 15:39
:oops: ... and would run the Methody region fairly and justly.

What is your idea of that??

Listening to what everyone has to say. Allowing each nation to have their own beliefs and policies. &c.

And Im not saying that Peteronia doesnt do this. Peteronia is a fine delegate.

That looks defensive. Why would you imply that people are saying Peteronia isn't a fine delegate
Arturria
17-11-2003, 15:42
:oops: ... and would run the Methody region fairly and justly.

What is your idea of that??

Listening to what everyone has to say. Allowing each nation to have their own beliefs and policies. &c.

And Im not saying that Peteronia doesnt do this. Peteronia is a fine delegate.

That looks defensive. Why would you imply that people are saying Peteronia isn't a fine delegate

No. Im saying that I will do those things. Tahts all. I said nothing about how Peteronia runs the region apart from that he does it well.

And lets try to avoid quote pyramids.
17-11-2003, 15:42
maybe due to certain delegates who moan behind perteronia's back
Kamsaki
17-11-2003, 15:42
I'm presuming the delegate from Macmurada, if he were here, would have something to say on that issue.

The fact is, some members of the methody region believe that granting people freedoms restricts their potency to excel. Hence why tensions have been increasing of late, and why we figured they'd want to be here.
Peteronia
17-11-2003, 15:42
Like?
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 15:43
Perhaps this discussion is a bit off topic

<looks to podium>

Perhaps Peteronia has any issues he wishes to discuss...

It's happened again.
<belches> :oops:
Arturria
17-11-2003, 15:44
I'm presuming the delegate from Macmurada, if he were here, would have something to say on that issue.

Indeed, now thats someone who believes strongly in what they want.
Arturria
17-11-2003, 15:45
Perhaps this discussion is a bit off topic

<looks to podium>

Perhaps Peteronia has any issues he wishes to discuss...

This isnt off topic at all - its discussing the Methody region problems.
Peteronia
17-11-2003, 15:46
<Aid whispers in ear>

Peteronian Intelligence has discovered that there is a plan to shake up the region. The intelligence is not quite clear on what exactly, perhaps a revolution! It appears to involve, The Peace, Mr Potato, Swaph and Macmurda.
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 15:46
I'm presuming the delegate from Macmurada, if he were here, would have something to say on that issue.

The fact is, some members of the methody region believe that granting people freedoms restricts their potency to excel. Hence why tensions have been increasing of late, and why we figured they'd want to be here.

I feel that the delegate from Macmurada is busy toying with "my little playthings."
Arturria
17-11-2003, 15:47
<Aid whispers in ear>

Peteronian Intelligence has discovered that there is a plan to shake up the region. The intelligence is not quite clear on what exactly, perhaps a revolution! It appears to involve, The Peace, Mr Potato, Swaph and Macmurda.

Yes, quite. Since they joined the region, democracy has been an endangered species in that part of the world. Its not just me that Peteronia is competing with for delegacy. :wink:
Kamsaki
17-11-2003, 15:48
I feel that the delegate from Macmurada is busy toying with "my little playthings."

... I hope there was no innuendal reference involved in that, Jao...

How would we deal with anyone seeking to take power within the region, then?
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 15:48
<Aide hands folder over. Envoy frowns, and looks at Peteronia>


<Aide whispers in ear>
:shock:
Peteronian Intelligence has discovered that there is a plan to shake up the region. The intelligence is not quite clear on what exactly, perhaps a revolution! It appears to involve, The Peace, Mr Potato, Swaph and Macmurda.

This is quite a shock. When were you planning to tell us.
Arturria
17-11-2003, 15:50
How would we deal with anyone seeking to take power within the region, then?

The USSA policy is that majority wins. If more people want dictatorships - theyll get them. Those 4 nations wont reach UN delegate status by themselves. The rest of the region has a say as well.
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 15:51
Agreed


How would we deal with anyone seeking to take power within the region, then?

First off, please be specific. Taking total power, or just the delegacy?
Kamsaki
17-11-2003, 15:51
Peteronian Intelligence has discovered that there is a plan to shake up the region. The intelligence is not quite clear on what exactly, perhaps a revolution! It appears to involve, The Peace, Mr Potato, Swaph and Macmurda.

Kamsaki has long since known about Macmurada's involvement in such a plot, but was not aware of the support backing him. Again, when did this information come to light?
Peteronia
17-11-2003, 15:51
Sorry, it slipped my mind.

This is very serious and appears to be a direct threat to the freedomof the region of Methody. But, as regional founder, I can still eject them.

If something does happen and a revoltuion takes place <ie region crashing>, would my disciplinary system apply?
Peteronia
17-11-2003, 15:52
It reached me through my Intelligence agency, last night. I felt that here would be the best place to announce
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 15:53
Sorry, it slipped my mind.

This is very serious and appears to be a direct threat to the freedomof the region of Methody. But, as regional founder, I can still eject them.

If something does happen and a revoltuion takes place <ie region crashing>, would my disciplinary system apply?

As founder, you still have a great deal of power.
Arturria
17-11-2003, 15:53
<The large group of USSA politicians, assistants, secretaries etc. hand sheets of different coloured paper to each other while mumbling. Some stamps are heard. A typewriter pings. Everyone in the group frowns persistantly.>
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 15:55
<The large group of USSA politicians, assistants, secretaries etc. hand sheets of different coloured paper to each other while mumbling. Some stamps are heard. A typewriter pings. Everyone in the group frowns persistantly.>

Would the honourable envoy from the USSA please relocate the majority of his government outside the hall.
Arturria
17-11-2003, 15:55
Sorry, it slipped my mind.

This is very serious and appears to be a direct threat to the freedomof the region of Methody. But, as regional founder, I can still eject them.

If something does happen and a revoltuion takes place <ie region crashing>, would my disciplinary system apply?

It would apply threefold! Anyone who attempts to region crash is going against NationStates rules and an ejection from the region is the least that they deserve.
Kamsaki
17-11-2003, 15:56
<The large group of USSA politicians, assistants, secretaries etc. hand sheets of different coloured paper to each other while mumbling. Some stamps are heard. A typewriter pings. Everyone in the group frowns persistantly.>

Would the honourable envoy from the USSA please relocate the majority of his government outside the hall.

Here here!

A small group of security pre-emptively hold the doors open.

What goes on in this hall is not necessarily for the public to hear...
Arturria
17-11-2003, 15:57
<The large group of USSA politicians, assistants, secretaries etc. hand sheets of different coloured paper to each other while mumbling. Some stamps are heard. A typewriter pings. Everyone in the group frowns persistantly.>

Would the honourable envoy from the USSA please relocate the majority of his government outside the hall.

Sorry but all of these people must be present to represent the views of all the people of Arturria. I alone cannot make decisions that will go with the wishes of our nation.
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 15:58
8) <-this post has been removed by order of The People's Republic of Jao e Tinukaii - Intelligence Division-> 8)
Peteronia
17-11-2003, 15:58
<another aid whispers in his ear>

OK, due to having a slight national emergency, I must leave. I therefore request a recess of half an hour. do return at 3.30pm GMT. <bangs gavel>


<Practically runs through building, jumps into limo, which speeds away, closely followed by several Peteronian police landrovers>
Arturria
17-11-2003, 15:58
<The large group of USSA politicians, assistants, secretaries etc. hand sheets of different coloured paper to each other while mumbling. Some stamps are heard. A typewriter pings. Everyone in the group frowns persistantly.>

Would the honourable envoy from the USSA please relocate the majority of his government outside the hall.

Here here!

A small group of security pre-emptively hold the doors open.

What goes on in this hall is not necessarily for the public to hear...

Were the government not the public! Sheesh
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 15:59
<entourage moves to leave building, and prepares to go shopping>
Arturria
17-11-2003, 16:00
<another aid whispers in his ear>

OK, due to having a slight national emergency, I must leave. I therefore request a recess of half an hour. do return at 3.30pm GMT. <bangs gavel>


<Practically runs through building, jumps into limo, which speeds away, closely followed by several Peteronian police landrovers>

We agree to recess.

<Papers shuffle. Briefcases close. The USSA delegation leave the hall and head for a smalll socialist cafe down the road, all the while mumbling and frowning.>
Kamsaki
17-11-2003, 16:00
Very well. A 30 minute Recess has been called.

With that, the Kamsaki President shuffles his papers into a clean A4 pile, sweeping himself to his feet as he makes for the entrance hall once again to address the K-9 news team.

Coffee is available for all those who need it!
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 16:04
<entourage moves to leave building, and prepares to go shopping>

<sees sea of reporters, decides to chat to people, and *liberates* jug of coffee on way past USSA tables, filing cabinets, and telegram machines>
Peteronia
17-11-2003, 16:30
<Stretch limo reappears from the Peteronian border and stops outside the building. The President gets out and reenters the building and takes up his appointed position>

Right. I call the floor to order <bangs gavel> right, where were we?
Arturria
17-11-2003, 16:31
<The USSA delegates return nice and early for the reconvening of the conference. All are perked up with left-wing coffee. Briefcases open. Papers move around the tables. All are talking with each other, smiling and laughing. Bureaucratic stamps are inked up.>
Arturria
17-11-2003, 16:33
<Stretch limo reappears from the Peteronian border and stops outside the building. The President gets out and reenters the building and takes up his appointed position>

Right. I call the floor to order <bangs gavel> right, where were we?

We were discussing the possible revolt.
Peteronia
17-11-2003, 16:34
ah yes
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 16:34
8) <-this post has been removed by order of The People's Republic of Jao e Tinukaii - Intelligence Division-> 8)
Peteronia
17-11-2003, 16:36
lets wait for the other delegates.
Kamsaki
17-11-2003, 16:38
Amid a backdrop of flashing cameras, President Myushu floats back into the conference hall, accompanied by his secretary, as well as a tall man in a squirrel outfit. The Squirrel is, of course, refused access.

We must apologise for the delay, honourable delegates, but there have been a few bizzare lobbying requests by some of my countrymen which I have had to briefly attend to.

Anyway, back to business. We'll wait a little longer and see who all returns...
Peteronia
17-11-2003, 16:38
Arturria, plz explain yourself.

Your entourage should not have been any bigger than it was originally. I order you to reduce your entourage numbers, and to stop taking all the stationary.
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 16:38
lets wait for the other delegates.

as you wish, but you did call us to order



<Stretch limo reappears from the Peteronian border and stops outside the building. The President gets out and reenters the building and takes up his appointed position>

Right. I call the floor to order <bangs gavel> right, where were we?
Peteronia
17-11-2003, 16:40
well we're all here now.
Arturria
17-11-2003, 16:40
Arturria, plz explain yourself.

Your entourage should not have been any bigger than it was originally. I order you to reduce your entourage numbers, and to stop taking all the stationary.


The group that walked in after recess is exactly the same group that walked out before recess. And we brought our own stationary, thank you very much! :x
Peteronia
17-11-2003, 16:41
Arturria, I'm waiting.
Arturria
17-11-2003, 16:41
Arturria, I'm waiting.

read before posting pls
17-11-2003, 16:41
Sorry I'm late, so what's the agenda for this "conference"?
Peteronia
17-11-2003, 16:42
Well, i'm now ORDERING you to eject some of them, or else I'LL DO IT FOR YOU!
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 16:43
:roll: fighting among ouselves will get us nowhere.

Has anyone seen fairyweather?
i think hh might have been swept away by the crowd :?
Arturria
17-11-2003, 16:44
Sorry I'm late, so what's the agenda for this "conference"?

There is none as such. We discuss whatever comes up.

Well, i'm now ORDERING you to eject some of them, or else I'LL DO IT FOR YOU!

<in a calm voice> As you wish, but I dont really see the point. We're not getting in anyones way.
Kamsaki
17-11-2003, 16:44
Sorry I'm late, so what's the agenda for this "conference"?

Ahh, Hell-dominion! Good to see you here!

The Kamsaki president makes to shake the newcomer's hand, only to find himself somehow under the gaze of yet more cameras.

... How can they even see in here anyway? Security! Block out the windows!
Peteronia
17-11-2003, 16:44
Wouldn't surprise me.
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 16:45
Well, i'm now ORDERING you to eject some of them, or else I'LL DO IT FOR YOU!

<in a calm voice> As you wish, but I dont really see the point. We're not getting in anyones way.

<Points at tables previously reserved for own delegation>

<pointing from table reserved for Macmurada>

Usurper of tables!
Arturria
17-11-2003, 16:45
Wouldn't surprise me.

What wouldnt? Please quote what youre referring to.
Peteronia
17-11-2003, 16:46
<andrew McQuillen lookalike storms out, and cameramen are seen being grabbed from the windows>
Arturria
17-11-2003, 16:47
Well, i'm now ORDERING you to eject some of them, or else I'LL DO IT FOR YOU!

<in a calm voice> As you wish, but I dont really see the point. We're not getting in anyones way.

<Points at tables previously reserved for own delegation>

<pointing from table reserved for Macmurada>

Usurper of tables!

Stop making this up. Its starting to be quite annoying. Were using the table asssigned to us. Theres only a handful of us. Even less now that Peteronia shouted them out of the hall. :(
Kamsaki
17-11-2003, 16:48
Call to order!!! >_<;;
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 16:48
Has anyone seen fairyweather?
i think he might have been swept away by the crowd


He didn't come back from the recess...
Peteronia
17-11-2003, 16:48
come come now, lets notfight about tables.
17-11-2003, 16:49
:roll: fighting among ouselves will get us nowhere.

Has anyone seen fairyweather?
i think hh might have been swept away by the crowd :?

yeh I'm back now, just did a bit of maths and clas civ :x
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 16:49
good to see you
Kamsaki
17-11-2003, 16:49
Can we get back on the issue at hand here? We do have an issue of regional security to deal with...
Peteronia
17-11-2003, 16:50
OOC hehe class civ

Now we're back, lets discuss the issue at hand, the possible revolution.
Arturria
17-11-2003, 16:50
come come now, lets notfight about tables.

The USSA's miniscule delegation is fighting about nothing. Jao e whatever is making a fuss about nothing.
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 16:50
Can we get back on the issue at hand here? We do have an issue of regional security to deal with...
You have been very quiet. i assume that this means you have been thinking...


Do tell
Arturria
17-11-2003, 16:50
Can we get back on the issue at hand here? We do have an issue of regional security to deal with...

Agreed
Peteronia
17-11-2003, 16:50
come come now, lets notfight about tables.

The USSA's miniscule delegation is fighting about nothing. Jao e whatever is making a fuss about nothing.

Plz stop the both of you.
17-11-2003, 16:51
Hey, I can't get my hands on any paper so the small admin monkeys will be tired and have no note passing to do
17-11-2003, 16:51
I'm sure once everybody has calmed down and discusss about the present situation, I'm sure we'll get somewhere and thanks for the welcome
17-11-2003, 16:52
so can we get back to the security issue yet?
Arturria
17-11-2003, 16:53
I'm sure once everybody has calmed down and discusss about the present situation, I'm sure we'll get somewhere

Were calm now and always were calm. Lets begin the discussion.
Peteronia
17-11-2003, 16:53
<bangs gavel very hard>

Thats enough.

Now, regional security. The disciplinary system for any nation that thries to region crash.
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 16:54
Hey, I can't get my hands on any paper so the small admin monkeys will be tired and have no note passing to do
I wish it to be noted that i did not bring this up.

this time




As a dictatorship, you must have a *peacekeeping* force that could be used in the defense of the region?
17-11-2003, 16:54
If this forum only has a quick-reply option, instead of ridiculously clicking on "reply" everytime, this discussion would go more efficiently
17-11-2003, 16:54
<note for the admin monkeys> TO: Hell-Dominion

who are ya?
Arturria
17-11-2003, 16:54
Now, regional security. The disciplinary system for any nation that thries to region crash.

Yes, well. Anyone who region crashes should be ejected from the region and possibly reportes to NationStates moderators. Region crashing is against the rules.
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 16:55
If this forum only has a quick-reply option, instead of ridiculously clicking on "reply" everytime, this discussion would go more efficiently

you could press quote
17-11-2003, 16:57
It's still too slow, its like watching paint dry, not stating that my Internet's slow, cos I have 600kb/s broadband.
Peteronia
17-11-2003, 16:58
Now, regional security. The disciplinary system for any nation that thries to region crash.

Yes, well. Anyone who region crashes should be ejected from the region and possibly reportes to NationStates moderators. Region crashing is against the rules.

Sorry Arturria, region crashing is perfectly legitimate.
Arturria
17-11-2003, 17:01
Sorry Arturria, region crashing is perfectly legitimate.

Maybe, but its not very nice. Unless most of the region genuinely supports those nations, ejection is appropriate.
Kamsaki
17-11-2003, 17:02
Question: If the people you were representing were anarchists, would the democratic thing to do be to stop representing them? Thus, would that make the democratic thing socially correct?
17-11-2003, 17:02
who is hell-dominion???

and region crashing altho perfectly fine is frowned upon and action must be taken before it happens
17-11-2003, 17:02
<note for the admin monkeys> TO: Hell-Dominion

who are ya?

My name *drum rolls* David Lee
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 17:02
<OOC is anyone else having problems, i was locked out for about 5 mins...>
17-11-2003, 17:03
what is OOC and yes it was very slow for a while
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 17:04
what is OOC and yes it was very slow for a while

OOC: Out Of Character
Arturria
17-11-2003, 17:05
OOC is "out of character"
Kamsaki
17-11-2003, 17:05
(( OOC: *Refers Fairy to the first discussion page*

Yeah, I wasn't able to get on for a while either. Anyway...))

Can I ask people to evaluate my previous question?
17-11-2003, 17:05
can't we get a funny resolution going and someone pleads its case or something?
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 17:06
Can I ask people to evaluate my previous question?

:oops: what was that? :oops:
Arturria
17-11-2003, 17:06
<OOC is anyone else having problems, i was locked out for about 5 mins...>

The servers, especially the forum, get a bit overloaded - its the middle of the day in America (where most of the nations come from)
Kamsaki
17-11-2003, 17:07
Question: If the people you were representing were anarchists, would the democratic thing to do be to stop representing them? Thus, would that make the democratic thing socially correct?
17-11-2003, 17:08
I will back up Kamsaki's statement/question
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 17:10
Question: If the people you were representing were anarchists, would the democratic thing to do be to stop representing them? Thus, would that make the democratic thing socially correct?

A pretty paradox, but it depends on who is representing them. For example, i would resign, but the democratical thing to do is also hypocritical.

Anyone else?
17-11-2003, 17:11
Question: If the people you were representing were anarchists, would the democratic thing to do be to stop representing them? Thus, would that make the democratic thing socially correct?

A pretty paradox, but it depends on who is representing them. For example, i would resign, but the democratical thing to do is also hypocritical.

Interesting...
Arturria
17-11-2003, 17:13
<The few remaining USSA delegates start typing things on small machines with screens. After looking at the screens for a while, they start whispering to each other and passing round more papers. Stamp. Stamp.>
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 17:13
Question: If the people you were representing were anarchists, would the democratic thing to do be to stop representing them? Thus, would that make the democratic thing socially correct?

A pretty paradox, but it depends on who is representing them. For example, i would resign, but the democratical thing to do is also hypocritical.

Interesting...

quote pyramid! quote pyramid! quote pyramid! quote pyramid!
Arturria
17-11-2003, 17:14
Please refrain from using elaborate quote pyramids.
Kamsaki
17-11-2003, 17:15
A pretty paradox, but it depends on who is representing them. For example, i would resign, but the democratical thing to do is also hypocritical.

That's exactly my point. I believe Arturria stated a while back that allowing the UN Delegate to be elected despite their political stand-point would be perfectly acceptable. However, should or would we allow completely totalitarian dictatorships to take on democratically elected positions, when their end aim would be to abolish such a position all together?
17-11-2003, 17:15
geez guys, this is gettin rather boring...
Peteronia
17-11-2003, 17:16
It is necessary for me to leave this summit. I apologise, but it is so slow, it is nigh near impossible to do this properly. You may continue if you wish. If you do, I appoint Artur as Interim chair due his endorsements being second only to mine. Thank you.

<The president is whisked off by his aids and thrown into the limo, and driven back to Peteronia City.>
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 17:16
That's exactly my point. I believe Arturria stated a while back that allowing the UN Delegate to be elected despite their political stand-point would be perfectly acceptable. However, should or would we allow completely totalitarian dictatorships to take on democratically elected positions, when their end aim would be to abolish such a position all together?

They would have to run a democratic delegateship, which highlights a flaw in the Nationstates System. :lol:
Arturria
17-11-2003, 17:16
A pretty paradox, but it depends on who is representing them. For example, i would resign, but the democratical thing to do is also hypocritical.

That's exactly my point. I believe Arturria stated a while back that allowing the UN Delegate to be elected despite their political stand-point would be perfectly acceptable. However, should or would we allow completely totalitarian dictatorships to take on democratically elected positions, when their end aim would be to abolish such a position all together?

We might be lucky - that might never happen. :)
Kamsaki
17-11-2003, 17:16
Very well then, Fairyweather, Shall we move on to a new topic for debate?
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 17:17
It is necessary for me to leave this summit. I apologise, but it is so slow, it is nigh near impossible to do this properly. You may continue if you wish. If you do, I appoint Artur as Interim chair due his endorsements being second only to mine. Thank you.

<The president is whisked off by his aids and thrown into the limo, and driven back to Peteronia City.>

Congrats to Arturria
17-11-2003, 17:17
the dictator fairyweather dozes off into a dream, his loyal servants quickly notice this and make up a rash excuse claiming he was in a fatal accident and needed to go back to his homeland as they dragged him out of the whitla
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 17:18
geez guys, this is gettin rather boring...

Please suggest a new topic then
Arturria
17-11-2003, 17:18
It is necessary for me to leave this summit. I apologise, but it is so slow, it is nigh near impossible to do this properly. You may continue if you wish. If you do, I appoint Artur as Interim chair due his endorsements being second only to mine. Thank you.

<The president is whisked off by his aids and thrown into the limo, and driven back to Peteronia City.>

Thank you Peteronia. <Takes Chair's seat and calls for the USSA group to return. Immediately a dozen or so delegates enter the room and take their seats at the USSA table.>
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 17:19
Do we have a nominal ending time for our overlong creation of hot air *ahem* debate/discussion?
Arturria
17-11-2003, 17:20
Ok then. New topic:

Economy or Environment?
Arturria
17-11-2003, 17:21
Do we have a nominal ending time for our overlong creation of hot air *ahem* debate/discussion?

This conference shall end when I believe that we do not have any further topics to discuss.
Kamsaki
17-11-2003, 17:21
Well, gentlemen, it appears as though this meeting is starting to break down... Might I suggest calling a suspension for today, filing memos to All of Methody's nations and readjourning in the near future?
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 17:21
Ok then. New topic:

Economy or Environment?

Economy.

Kamsaki, we would like to establish some sort of region-wide trade treaty, to further the import of squirrel-dogs
17-11-2003, 17:22
Neither!

What about Culture Arts i.e. Nation's Performing Art via concerts?

Promote music or banish it from the face of the Earth?
17-11-2003, 17:22
sorry i know im away and all but the conference shall end when everyone goes and leaves you and your overgrown bunch of loonies sitting discussing how to overthrow peter and create world domination
Arturria
17-11-2003, 17:24
Well, gentlemen, it appears as though this meeting is starting to break down... Might I suggest calling a suspension for today, filing memos to All of Methody's nations and readjourning in the near future?

Ok then. I will discuss the date of the next conference with the large nations of the region and it shall be held then.

If there is concensus then I will declare this conference to be over.
Kamsaki
17-11-2003, 17:25
Well, Jao e tinukaii, Such a treaty would have to involve suitable treatment of the squirrels, and indeed some sense of respect towards our national heritage. We're unwilling to allow Squirrel to become a common menu item, simply because of its symbolism of Kamsaki pride. If you wish, however, we can provide a small number of squirrels, from which you can create your own thriving squirrel populace.

Then you may do whatever you see fit.
Arturria
17-11-2003, 17:27
Well, Jao e tinukaii, Such a treaty would have to involve suitable treatment of the squirrels, and indeed some sense of respect towards our national heritage. We're unwilling to allow Squirrel to become a common menu item, simply because of its symbolism of Kamsaki pride. If you wish, however, we can provide a small number of squirrels, from which you can create your own thriving squirrel populace.

Then you may do whatever you see fit.

Discussion of treaties between individual countries should be discussed by telegram and not in the conference, please.
Kamsaki
17-11-2003, 17:27
Ok then. I will discuss the date of the next conference with the large nations of the region and it shall be held then.

If there is concensus then I will declare this conference to be over.

That seems fair. Many thanks to all those nations that did, eventually, attend!

Once again with quite a flourish, President Myushu handed his secretary his recent notes, then made for the door, apologising to the grounded cameramen on his way out.
Jao e Tinukaii
17-11-2003, 17:28
Well, Jao e tinukaii, Such a treaty would have to involve suitable treatment of the squirrels, and indeed some sense of respect towards our national heritage. We're unwilling to allow Squirrel to become a common menu item, simply because of its symbolism of Kamsaki pride. If you wish, however, we can provide a small number of squirrels, from which you can create your own thriving squirrel populace.

Then you may do whatever you see fit.

Discussion of treaties between individual countries should be discussed by telegram and not in the conference, please.

I thought it was over???
17-11-2003, 17:28
I have to agree with one thing - this is boring, happy debating or is it discussin. Since no progress has been made, I think my absence won't alter much.

*Gets up and walks out*
Arturria
17-11-2003, 17:28
Indeed. Thank you for attending. We hope you will attend future conferences as well.
Arturria
17-11-2003, 17:29
Well, Jao e tinukaii, Such a treaty would have to involve suitable treatment of the squirrels, and indeed some sense of respect towards our national heritage. We're unwilling to allow Squirrel to become a common menu item, simply because of its symbolism of Kamsaki pride. If you wish, however, we can provide a small number of squirrels, from which you can create your own thriving squirrel populace.

Then you may do whatever you see fit.

Discussion of treaties between individual countries should be discussed by telegram and not in the conference, please.

I thought it was over???

Its not over until i declare its over in an elaborate closing ceremony.
Arturria
17-11-2003, 17:32
I have to agree with one thing - this is boring, happy debating or is it discussin. Since no progress has been made, I think my absence won't alter much.

I think weve done quite a lot of diplomatic mingling. And we have discussed the possible revolt.
17-11-2003, 17:32
Thank you for your invitation and inviting me to participate, Arturria.

*Shakes hands*
Arturria
17-11-2003, 17:34
So shall I seal this up people? (if anyones left)
Arturria
17-11-2003, 17:42
Right then. I, the Interim Chair of this Conference, declare the First Methody Region Conference to be officially over at 16.40PM MST, 2 hours 40 minutes after it started. <Bangs gavel> I formally thank all delegates for attending. The date for the next conference has not been specified yet. Once it is, all members of the region will be contacted.

<Everyone leaves the hall. Artur leaves with his group of delegates and prepares to make a statement to the press. Lights go off.>