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RNN Report:

The Raysian Council has been discussing this for some time now, and they are coming to a close on their decision.

The Council is drawing up a bill that will prohibit some religions from gaining citizenship. Citizens who are already of these religions are allowed to stay, but new immigration applicants may not.

This comes from recent terrorist and civil uprising problems, as well as a major list of many other problems. The majority of Raysia's population, which is of the Latter-Day Saint religion, feels uncomfortable having the small numbers of other religions in their neighborhoods and job sites. They feel uncomfortable not because they are intolerant, but rather because these religious minorities have greatly different views on everyday behavior, and tend to look down on the majority.

These Religious Minorities are almost always the source of crime and hatred in Raysia. And because of this, the council has decided that such religious minorities should not be allowed to gain citizenship, at least not without a lot of trials and paperwork.

Some of the belief systems that will be on this list:

Baptists
RLDS
ReSaints
Charismatic Christians
Shakers
Transcendentalists
Karazkists
Sirithilists
Islams/Muslims/Whatever
Communists and Socialists (No, not a religion, but still, troublemaking)
Atheists (Same)
And almost all Liberals.

These are just a few of the Religious and Political Belief systems that will be screened from new Immigration applicants.

Those merely wanting student Visas will be allowed in, and those who are currently citizens will not necessarily be forced to stop practicing their beliefs. Relatives of citizens may be given exception in some cases.

RNN Believes this is the first step in "purifying" Raysia, which is as we see it, the ultimate goal of the Raysian Council, to some day establish a United Order.

*tags*

OOC: BUMP... no one thinks this is odd?

"I consider it too little, too late to save yourself from the fires of hell."

~Cardinal Johannes Richelieu

"I consider it too little, too late to save yourself from the fires of hell."

~Cardinal Johannes Richelieu???

"I consider it too little, too late to save yourself from the fires of hell."

~Cardinal Johannes Richelieu???

OOC: Roania bans almost every religion on the planet, has an official religion of Catholocism, and no equal oppurtunity legislation.

You're getting to that point, but you still have a few hurdles to leap over.

Mormons, their not even christians. Burning to good for those defilers of the bible.

~Archibishop Vorn

Mormons, their not even christians. Burning to good for those defilers of the bible.

~Archibishop Vornhehehe

OOC:

I fell into a burnin' ring of fire.
I went down, down, down, and the flames went higher.
And it burns, burns, burns, that ring of fire, that ring of fire.

And almost all Liberals.
OOC: So you're exiling 49% of your population exponentionally? "Liberal" is a relative and highly subjective term, you know... In Alexander the Great's time, a "Liberal" was someone like Alexander the Great who wanted to assimilate other cultures into the greater empire. A "Conservative" was someone like Cletus the Black. But that's another story...

:roll:

That....is an awesome song.

And almost all Liberals.
OOC: So you're exiling 49% of your population exponentionally? "Liberal" is a relative and highly subjective term, you know... In Alexander the Great's time, a "Liberal" was someone like Alexander the Great who wanted to assimilate other cultures into the greater empire. A "Conservative" was someone like Cletus the Black. But that's another story...

:roll:Actually, Raysia is like 2% liberal...

KIEV, FERRUSSIA (UFP) - Ferrussian government officials announced Thursday that they were "suprised" by the recent actions of the Raysian Council in attempting to ban people of many religious faiths from immigrating to the country. While not condemning the move, officials did comment that the decision seemed "understandable, but disheartening."

Raysia, a close ally of Ferrussia, has a 95% LDS (or "Mormon") population, dwarfing Ferrussia's 23%. While the rights of the country have always been relatively low, the Ferrussian government and populace were still utterly suprised by the Raysian move.

Ferrussian government officials have not commented on any actions to be taken, and although the decision has made Ferrussia "uneasy," they still claim to be "strong allies of the good Raysian people." The official refused to comment on whether any diplomatic impacts were to be had with the Raysian government.

RNN In response to Ferrussian Article:

We realize that many other nations will be shocked by this action, and say that it almost seems Roaniaish, but in the end, it just makes the defacto outcasts official.

Anyway, this law is not passed, and if a significant number of the population petition against it, or if international pressure grows to great, the bill will be cancelled, or at least postponed.

RNN In response to Ferrussian Article:

We realize that many other nations will be shocked by this action, and say that it almost seems Roaniaish, but in the end, it just makes the defacto outcasts official.

Anyway, this law is not passed, and if a significant number of the population petition against it, or if international pressure grows to great, the bill will be cancelled, or at least postponed.

OOC: Welcome to the dark side, Raysia.

Soon, it will all just become shades of gray... to make it easier, just keep telling yourself, "Government is about order and chaos, not good and evil" over and over again.

RNN In response to Ferrussian Article:

We realize that many other nations will be shocked by this action, and say that it almost seems Roaniaish, but in the end, it just makes the defacto outcasts official.

Anyway, this law is not passed, and if a significant number of the population petition against it, or if international pressure grows to great, the bill will be cancelled, or at least postponed.

OOC: Welcome to the dark side, Raysia.

Soon, it will all just become shades of gray... to make it easier, just keep telling yourself, "Government is about order and chaos, not good and evil" over and over again.eh heh, sorry, but we don't do the whole inquisitor.. thing....

*remembers yesterday's posts when our police shot Karzakists on sight...*

Umm...

shush up.

:P

Here's your outfit.
:P
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:RiS_JiQteMcC:ealasaid.com/fan/shrine/darth.jpg

Here's your outfit.
:P
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:RiS_JiQteMcC:ealasaid.com/fan/shrine/darth.jpg

Alexander's armor, Roania?

Here's your outfit.
:P
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:RiS_JiQteMcC:ealasaid.com/fan/shrine/darth.jpgI'll never join you!!

http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/luke10.jpg

Prince Alexander's armor is a variation on the Inquisitorial robes.

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:oz2mtxJPQ7EC:www.wizards.com/wheeloftime/images/Gallery_GnA/wot_78.jpg

And Raysia, shooting civilians is hardly something a 'goodguy' would do.

Lol...

And Raysia, I knew it hadn't been passed... I was talking about the attempt to do so, just to letcha know. :)

Prince Alexander's armor is a variation on the Inquisitorial robes.

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:oz2mtxJPQ7EC:www.wizards.com/wheeloftime/images/Gallery_GnA/wot_78.jpg

And Raysia, shooting civilians is hardly something a 'goodguy' would do.umm... Uber-Drug dealing brainwashers are not "civillians," they're felonists :P

Yes, but you shot them. With-out trial, it seems.

Taking a leaf from the Roanian Polizei's book?

Yes, but you shot them. With-out trial, it seems.

Taking a leaf from the Roanian Polizei's book?Well I'm sorry that you feel that way, but we take mind alteration very seriously

Yes, but you shot them. With-out trial, it seems.

Taking a leaf from the Roanian Polizei's book?Well I'm sorry that you feel that way, but we take mind alteration very seriously

Indeed. And so you should... for hatred leads to anger, anger leads to power, power leads to victory...

Yes, but you shot them. With-out trial, it seems.

Taking a leaf from the Roanian Polizei's book?Well I'm sorry that you feel that way, but we take mind alteration very seriously

Indeed. And so you should... for hatred leads to anger, anger leads to power, power leads to victory...nah.


Anyway, now is the time to open the forum. Ferrussia especially, what do you think we shoul do? Our goal is to eventually go back and try to run a "united order."

I'm going to start a new thread for this discussion

OOCly, if you are trying to create a more or less religion-ruled country, you're doing a pretty good job of a somewhat gradual RP to get there. I think the next step would be the election of high-up church leaders to political offices, then maybe restrictions on what religion you had to be to be elected to office (something that some countries actually have today), etc.

ICly, Ferrussia thinks you should be a bit more receptive to other religions, but is sitting on their hands for the most part. We're not going to mess around with your domestic decisions.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=92674&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

OOCly, if you are trying to create a more or less religion-ruled country, you're doing a pretty good job of a somewhat gradual RP to get there. I think the next step would be the election of high-up church leaders to political offices, then maybe restrictions on what religion you had to be to be elected to office (something that some countries actually have today), etc.

ICly, Ferrussia thinks you should be a bit more receptive to other religions, but is sitting on their hands for the most part. We're not going to mess around with your domestic decisions.hehe, the church already has a big say in the leaders of the coutnry... Jeffery R. Holland is the representative from the church in our concil... hehehe

Anyway, discuss here:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=92674&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

It seems every religion or belief is basically on that list.

It seems every religion or belief is basically on that list.ya noticed? :P

Remove Catholicism from the list or suffer dire consquences.

Remove Catholicism from the list or suffer dire consquences.Why? Our nation is evolving, and we don't want to discomfort them, so we're just gonna turn (most of) them away politely ^_^

Sorry, but its hard to be of one heart and one mind if you got people who think differently ^_^
[/fireman speech]

The outlawing of Catholicism will not be allowed by Belem. We strongly advise you to change your policy.

Remove Catholicism from the list or suffer dire consquences.Why? Our nation is evolving, and we don't want to discomfort them, so we're just gonna turn (most of) them away politely ^_^

Sorry, but its hard to be of one heart and one mind if you got people who think differently ^_^
[/fireman speech]

Remove Catholicism from the list, or get removed from existence.

The outlawing of Catholicism will not be allowed by Belem. We strongly advise you to change your policy.hey, whoa, we're not outlawing catholic practices, we're just trying to control their population... we want the minorities to become a little more... minor...

The outlawing of Catholicism will not be allowed by Belem. We strongly advise you to change your policy.hey, whoa, we're not outlawing catholic practices, we're just trying to control their population... we want the minorities to become a little more... minor...

You can do it to everyone and anyone but Catholics. I think Roania put it very finely of what happens if you dont agree.

The outlawing of Catholicism will not be allowed by Belem. We strongly advise you to change your policy.

I strongly advise you not try to bully other nations non-violent religious policies.

Remove Catholicism from the list or suffer dire consquences.Why? Our nation is evolving, and we don't want to discomfort them, so we're just gonna turn (most of) them away politely ^_^

Sorry, but its hard to be of one heart and one mind if you got people who think differently ^_^
[/fireman speech]

Remove Catholicism from the list, or get removed from existence.Hmm... we will consider it... but they are already socially outcasted... so we can't really help it... we're just legalizing what society already started.

The outlawing of Catholicism will not be allowed by Belem. We strongly advise you to change your policy.

I strongly advise you not try to bully other nations non-violent religious policies.

they are outlawing The Catholic Faith as Defenders of the Faith Belem takes it upon itself to stop the injustice.

Remove Catholicism from the list or suffer dire consquences.Why? Our nation is evolving, and we don't want to discomfort them, so we're just gonna turn (most of) them away politely ^_^

Sorry, but its hard to be of one heart and one mind if you got people who think differently ^_^
[/fireman speech]

Remove Catholicism from the list, or get removed from existence.Hmm... we will consider it... but they are already socially outcasted... so we can't really help it... we're just legalizing what society already started.

OOC: :lol: Ah, I'm loving this little passive-agressive fight... more! more!

The outlawing of Catholicism will not be allowed by Belem. We strongly advise you to change your policy.

I strongly advise you not try to bully other nations non-violent religious policies.*nods* Thank you for seeing our point... there is no violence, just a polite reduction of certain minorities...

If someone began crashing your region, would you not kick them out before they became too strong? That's what we're doing... kinda gentlier though :P

Remove Catholicism from the list or suffer dire consquences.Why? Our nation is evolving, and we don't want to discomfort them, so we're just gonna turn (most of) them away politely ^_^

Sorry, but its hard to be of one heart and one mind if you got people who think differently ^_^
[/fireman speech]

Remove Catholicism from the list, or get removed from existence.Hmm... we will consider it... but they are already socially outcasted... so we can't really help it... we're just legalizing what society already started.

Stick to your guns Raysia, Do not let foriegn nations determine your religious policies. So long as you don't start killing folks.

The outlawing of Catholicism will not be allowed by Belem. We strongly advise you to change your policy.

I strongly advise you not try to bully other nations non-violent religious policies.

they are outlawing The Catholic Faith as Defenders of the Faith Belem takes it upon itself to stop the injustice.

Belem, they're simply decreasing the flow of Catholic immigration into the country... let's not get all Holy Warish now.

The outlawing of Catholicism will not be allowed by Belem. We strongly advise you to change your policy.

I strongly advise you not try to bully other nations non-violent religious policies.

they are outlawing The Catholic Faith as Defenders of the Faith Belem takes it upon itself to stop the injustice.Again, we are not outlawing the catholic faith! Catholic citizens may still practice! But we're regulating the new citizens is all... as in.. no more! 10-15% Non-Mormon is enough, and we're gonna let them average out until they are next to nothing.

Raysia is NOT a democracy, and opposing views of behavior and politics aren't tolerated well.

The outlawing of Catholicism will not be allowed by Belem. We strongly advise you to change your policy.

I strongly advise you not try to bully other nations non-violent religious policies.

they are outlawing The Catholic Faith as Defenders of the Faith Belem takes it upon itself to stop the injustice.

Belem, they're simply decreasing the flow of Catholic immigration into the country... let's not get all Holy Warish now.Yeah, jeez, throw a fit when we start doing concentration camps! (Which we won't!!!)

That's an idea...

Cardinal calls for crusade against the heretics of Raysia! :P

The outlawing of Catholicism will not be allowed by Belem. We strongly advise you to change your policy.

I strongly advise you not try to bully other nations non-violent religious policies.

they are outlawing The Catholic Faith as Defenders of the Faith Belem takes it upon itself to stop the injustice.

Belem, they're simply decreasing the flow of Catholic immigration into the country... let's not get all Holy Warish now.

They are attempting to put down the Catholic Church the one true faith within there country all true Catholic should rise up in defense of the Church.

That's an idea...

Cardinal calls for crusade against the heretics of Raysia! :P

Belem will support this.

That's an idea...

Cardinal calls for crusade against the heretics of Raysia! :P


Nah.

How about this:

Cardinal Richelieu calls for crusade against the heretics of Raysia!

both are good.

uhh... umm... that war would be unjustified, you know this, right?

Going to war because we are refusing to let any more catholics come in? Come on guys! The middle east has NO CHRISTANS!! And yet your pope didn't want us to liberate them, so why do your views suddely change?? You guys are confusing.

uhh... umm... that war would be unjustified, you know this, right?

Going to war because we are refusing to let any more catholics come in? Come on guys! The middle east has NO CHRISTANS!! And yet your pope didn't want us to liberate them, so why do your views suddely change?? You guys are confusing.

Belem, do you feel like a nice guy?

No?

Me neither. Let's go burn some heretics. :twisted:

Face it, Raysia. I gave you several oppurtunities to join me...

uhh... umm... that war would be unjustified, you know this, right?

Going to war because we are refusing to let any more catholics come in? Come on guys! The middle east has NO CHRISTANS!! And yet your pope didn't want us to liberate them, so why do your views suddely change?? You guys are confusing.

Pope Urban the II in 1092(or 1098 im bad with dates) declared for a Crusade to remove the Heretics from the Holy Land because there was no longer a Christian Kingdom in Jerusalem.

If you are going to declare war on us for a bill we have not even passed yet, can you at least state your demands??

uhh... umm... that war would be unjustified, you know this, right?

Going to war because we are refusing to let any more catholics come in? Come on guys! The middle east has NO CHRISTANS!! And yet your pope didn't want us to liberate them, so why do your views suddely change?? You guys are confusing.

Belem, do you feel like a nice guy?

No?

Me neither. Let's go burn some heretics. :twisted:

Face it, Raysia. I gave you several oppurtunities to join me...

when am I ever a nice guy?

We can send him some demands though check your tgrams in about 30 seconds.

If you are going to declare war on us for a bill we have not even passed yet, can you at least state your demands??

Did we forget that? Silly us.

<Ahem>

1. The exile of all Moslems.

2. Catholics allowed to come and go as they please.

3. The abandonment of the communist idealogy in all shapes and forms.

Anything else, Belem?

hmm... *waits for crazy list*

Note, if they are too crazy, I will just ignore you.

4. Reperations of 1 trillion dollars each to Roania and Belem

5. Installment of a neutral government overseen by Belem and Roania.

hmm... *waits for crazy list*

Note, if they are too crazy, I will just ignore you.

You can't do that. We can make any demands we please, you have to negotiate them away.

hmm... *waits for crazy list*

Note, if they are too crazy, I will just ignore you.

OOC: the purpose is to have them crazy.

If you are going to declare war on us for a bill we have not even passed yet, can you at least state your demands??

Did we forget that? Silly us.

<Ahem>

1. The exile of all Moslems.

2. Catholics allowed to come and go as they please.

3. The abandonment of the communist idealogy in all shapes and forms.

Anything else, Belem?I forgot to add muslims to the list, changing.

Catholics are cool, and many, so we will not ban them... they are now removed from the potential list.

We will never be communist. United orderism is totally different. You will see.

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1. The exile of all Moslems.

2. Catholics allowed to come and go as they please.

3. The abandonment of the communist idealogy in all shapes and forms.

4. Reperations of 1 trillion dollars each to Roania and Belem

5. Installment of a neutral government overseen by Belem and Roania.
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OOC: It is about to be time to take out the trash.

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To the nations of Belem and Roania:

You will stop all aggressions agianst Raysia now, or deal with the consequences of your actions. I suggest that you stop your bullying and posturing now, before this becomes a situation that you cannot control.

4. Reperations of 1 trillion dollars each to Roania and Belem

5. Installment of a neutral government overseen by Belem and Roania.Reperations for what? And a neutral government installed by an oppressive catholic church? Isn't that an oxymoron or something?

OK, list edited. I still don't see what the trillion dollars would be for...

OOC: It is about to be time to take out the trash.

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To the nations of Belem and Roania:

You will stop all aggressions agianst Raysia now, or deal with the consequences of your actions. I suggest that you stop your bullying and posturing now, before this becomes a situation that you cannot control.

OOC: Isn't it amazing that both me and Belem are richer than you?

And, together, outnumber you?

Reperations for what? And a neutral government installed by an oppressive catholic church? Isn't that an oxymoron or something?

Roania is not run by the Church. It is an absolute Monarchy, aided by a council of nobles, which the church occupies two spots on.

EDIT: Double post

3. The abandonment of the communist idealogy in all shapes and forms.


Um... you did read the list, did you not?


...
Communists and Socialists (No, not a religion, but still, troublemaking)
...

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1. The exile of all Moslems.

2. Catholics allowed to come and go as they please.

3. The abandonment of the communist idealogy in all shapes and forms.

4. Reperations of 1 trillion dollars each to Roania and Belem

5. Installment of a neutral government overseen by Belem and Roania.
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The following demands are made of Belem

1. stop picking on nations smaller than yourself

2. The acceptance of other nations laws, provided that they do not offer a risk to the life of the peoples of said nations

3. The abandonment of your crusader mentality in all shapes and forms

4. Reperations in the form of an appology for being an international ass

5. Installment of a government with some sense

4. Reperations of 1 trillion dollars each to Roania and Belem

5. Installment of a neutral government overseen by Belem and Roania.Reperations for what? And a neutral government installed by an oppressive catholic church? Isn't that an oxymoron or something?

Reperations for Catholics everywhere due to your oppresive practices. And Belem is not ruled by the Church the Church just has a high position of power in Belem. Belem is ruled by a lineage of Emperors and his will his carried out through the Inquisition.

OOC: It is about to be time to take out the trash.

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To the nations of Belem and Roania:

You will stop all aggressions agianst Raysia now, or deal with the consequences of your actions. I suggest that you stop your bullying and posturing now, before this becomes a situation that you cannot control.

OOC: Isn't it amazing that both me and Belem are richer than you?

In fact you are not. I have had the highest ranking of economy since my earliest days here.

And, together, outnumber you?

Shall I bring in my allies ?
I think that you will find yourself badly outnumbered.

The following demands are made of Celeborne.

Failure to comply will mean the utter destruction of a minority group within Roania.

Starting with... Buddhists. Oh, and then we might pick a small nation and vapourise them.

1. Cease interfering with the acts of the Most Holy Principality and its allies.

2. See number 1.

Not to provoke you or anything, but if you did want to attack us, be warned, Raysia has a nearly-godmoddish super-high defense network... not like we would do much against Roania's 22 Million man army though... But we could take 'em... but we don't intend to.

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1. The exile of all Moslems.

2. Catholics allowed to come and go as they please.

3. The abandonment of the communist idealogy in all shapes and forms.

4. Reperations of 1 trillion dollars each to Roania and Belem

5. Installment of a neutral government overseen by Belem and Roania.
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The following demands are made of Belem

1. stop picking on nations smaller than yourself

2. The acceptance of other nations laws, provided that they do not offer a risk to the life of the peoples of said nations

3. The abandonment of your crusader mentality in all shapes and forms

4. Reperations in the form of an appology for being an international ass

5. Installment of a government with some sense

1. not when they do something unjust.

2. Belem law supercedes all other

3. Belem is the Defender of the Faith and will go anywhere Catholic rights are violated

4. Belem is an upstanding nation in the world.

5. The Imperial Empire is the most sensible government any nation can take as its government.

And, together, outnumber you?

Shall I bring in my allies ?
I think that you will find yourself badly outnumbered.

You rang? *looks at Roania and Belem then looks at Celeborne and Larkinia..* Four words for ya..

Just bring it, slappy.

Celeborne, last I checked you were a psychotic dictatorship with an imploded economy.

Oh, and call in your allies, I get my close friends the Holy Latin Empire, Dyelli Beybi, and every other catholic nation on this planet.

4. Reperations of 1 trillion dollars each to Roania and Belem

5. Installment of a neutral government overseen by Belem and Roania.Reperations for what? And a neutral government installed by an oppressive catholic church? Isn't that an oxymoron or something?

Reperations for Catholics everywhere due to your oppresive practices. And Belem is not ruled by the Church the Church just has a high position of power in Belem. Belem is ruled by a lineage of Emperors and his will his carried out through the Inquisition.umm... what oppressive practices?? Where did you ever get "oppression" out of this?! If anything YOU guys are oppressive, willing to KILL us over our non-violence!

The following demands are made of Celeborne.

Failure to comply will mean the utter destruction of a minority group within Roania.

Starting with... Buddhists. Oh, and then we might pick a small nation and vapourise them.

1. Cease interfering with the acts of the Most Holy Principality and its allies.

2. See number 1.

For a so-called goodguy, you are very imperialistic.

4. Belem is an upstanding nation in the world.

5. The Imperial Empire is the most sensible government any nation can take as its government.

OOC: HAH! Oh, did I just say that out loud?

The following demands are made of Celeborne.

Failure to comply will mean the utter destruction of a minority group within Roania.

Starting with... Buddhists. Oh, and then we might pick a small nation and vapourise them.

1. Cease interfering with the acts of the Most Holy Principality and its allies.

2. See number 1.

Im on your side. wipe em out if you want no skin off my back.

Belem and Roania starting a war. What's new?

Unfortunately Roania is an ally ...

The following demands are made of Celeborne.

Failure to comply will mean the utter destruction of a minority group within Roania.

Starting with... Buddhists. Oh, and then we might pick a small nation and vapourise them.

1. Cease interfering with the acts of the Most Holy Principality and its allies.

2. See number 1.

For a so-called goodguy, you are very imperialistic.

Er........ did you just talk to yourself in the 3rd person?

Belem and Roania starting a war. What's new?

Unfortunately Roania is an ally ...

OOC: I'd prefer HLE right now...

And Raysia started it by threatening to exile Catholics.

The following demands are made of Celeborne.

Failure to comply will mean the utter destruction of a minority group within Roania.

Starting with... Buddhists. Oh, and then we might pick a small nation and vapourise them.

1. Cease interfering with the acts of the Most Holy Principality and its allies.

2. See number 1.

For a so-called goodguy, you are very imperialistic.

Er........ did you just talk to yourself in the 3rd person?

I was talking to Celeborne, who seemed to have missed the crushing irony.

OK, so we're adding muslims to the list, we're letting catholics in if they want, and we're not going communist... did we miss anything? War averted, right? :)

Celeborne, last I checked you were a psychotic dictatorship with an imploded economy.

Oh, and call in your allies, I get my close friends the Holy Latin Empire, Dyelli Beybi, and every other catholic nation on this planet.

Check again, I have never , I repeat never had an imploded economy. What were you looking at ? And if you want to play the ally game we can. Would you like to see the list of nations lined up to take you out if you do this ? Very few , if any , are below 1 billion in pop. I suggest you find a better and more adult way to handle this issue. Perhaps you could offer to take in any Catholics that want to move ?

the reperations.

The following demands are made of Celeborne.

Failure to comply will mean the utter destruction of a minority group within Roania.

Starting with... Buddhists. Oh, and then we might pick a small nation and vapourise them.

1. Cease interfering with the acts of the Most Holy Principality and its allies.

2. See number 1.

For a so-called goodguy, you are very imperialistic.

Er........ did you just talk to yourself in the 3rd person?

I was talking to Celeborne, who seemed to have missed the crushing irony.

OOC: No I got it , I was just having fun giving you a hard time. Go chase vampires and I will help you out. Hell declare war on Rave or something.

Belem and Roania starting a war. What's new?

Unfortunately Roania is an ally ...

OOC: I'd prefer HLE right now...

And Raysia started it by threatening to exile Catholics.NEVER!!!

QUOTE WHERE I EVER SAID WE WOULD KICK OUT CATHOLICS!!

OK, so we're adding muslims to the list, we're letting catholics in if they want, and we're not going communist... did we miss anything? War averted, right? :)

Never mind then.

Celeborne, last I checked you were a psychotic dictatorship with an imploded economy.

Oh, and call in your allies, I get my close friends the Holy Latin Empire, Dyelli Beybi, and every other catholic nation on this planet.

Check again, I have never , I repeat never had an imploded economy. What were you looking at ? And if you want to play the ally game we can. Would you like to see the list of nations lined up to take you out if you do this ? Very few , if any , are below 1 billion in pop. I suggest you find a better and more adult way to handle this issue. Perhaps you could offer to take in any Catholics that want to move ?

For proof look here :
http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=celeborne

So much for your lies Roania

We found our Holy Wombat god! (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=92138&highlight=) We are STRONG!

the reperations.FOR WHAT?!?! IF ANYTHING YOU SHOULD GIVE ME 300 TRILLION FOR THREATENING TO GO TO WAR OVER SOMETHING I NEVER EVEN DID!!!

*calms down* *releases the CAPS LOCK button*

Reperations for the stress you put the Catholics in your nation through. Where Belem and Roania will then distribute it(OOC:by putting it comfortably it in our coffers) to your opressed Catholics.

Reperations for the stress you put the Catholics in your nation through. Where Belem and Roania will then distribute it(OOC:by putting it comfortably it in our coffers) to your opressed Catholics.OK dude, fun's over. The war was averted, No Catholics were oppressed in the making of this thread. So go give yourself 1 trillion to give to your invisible friends.

The following demands are made of Celeborne.

Failure to comply will mean the utter destruction of a minority group within Roania.

Starting with... Buddhists. Oh, and then we might pick a small nation and vapourise them.

1. Cease interfering with the acts of the Most Holy Principality and its allies.

2. See number 1.

OOC: LOL, I see that you stopped threatening Belem and changed it to me.

OK, so is there anything else you guys would like me to do to stop you from attacking Fort Raysia? :)

*As if I would do it. You're happy, I'm pissed, but happy. So we're cool.

Our Beloved Government Does Some Pointless Posturing

"Aleph Strata strongly condemns the actions of the Raysian government in proposing barring entry to specific groups of people," said an undersecretary of state, Ann Thomson. "Furthermore, we also believe that the Raysian government is doing its best to suppress free speech inside its borders, as we have heard very little news of uprisings, protests, and demonstrations." She went on to reiterate that the borders of Aleph Strata are open to anyone who is willing to work, or their families.

But what about those to don't want to work? "We have rehabilitation programs for them," notes bystander John McMillin. "After all, we've got to keep the economy going strong."

The Strata UN representative has also grumbled about the issue, and says he "will write something about this Raisin [sic] discrimination issue next week."

"There's a guy who could do with some of that rehabilitation" says McMillin "I will report his continued procrastination sometime soon, I promise."

(( OOC: Okay, so this should add to the international pressure you might buckle under. Anyway, this law is not passed, and if a significant number of the population petition against it, or if international pressure grows to great, the bill will be cancelled, or at least postponed.))

Our Beloved Government Does Some Pointless Posturing

"Aleph Strata strongly condemns the actions of the Raysian government in proposing barring entry to specific groups of people," said an undersecretary of state, Ann Thomson. "Furthermore, we also believe that the Raysian government is doing its best to suppress free speech inside its borders, as we have heard very little news of uprisings, protests, and demonstrations." She went on to reiterate that the borders of Aleph Strata are open to anyone who is willing to work, or their families.

But what about those to don't want to work? "We have rehabilitation programs for them," notes bystander John McMillin. "After all, we've got to keep the economy going strong."

The Strata UN representative has also grumbled about the issue, and says he "will write something about this Raisin [sic] discrimination issue next week."

"There's a guy who could do with some of that rehabilitation" says McMillin "I will report his continued procrastination sometime soon, I promise."

(( OOC: Okay, so this should add to the international pressure you might buckle under. Anyway, this law is not passed, and if a significant number of the population petition against it, or if international pressure grows to great, the bill will be cancelled, or at least postponed.))Umm... nah... I don't think we'll buckle... since Roania and Belem helped me to refine our potential list :)

And there really have not been any more protests than usual... Free speech is just about as free as it always has been in Raysia... you can yell and scream all you want, but no one is really going to listen.

The minorities have been outcasts socially for some time now... so really, nothing is changing.

Official:

Pending no further extreme protests from the International community, the bill has now become law, effective immediately.

If you really have a problem with us being isolationistish... then... well, who cares? There are far worse nations out there, go and start a war with the ones that are actually oppressing their people or killing them...

*curious bump*

Official:

Pending no further extreme protests from the International community, the bill has now become law, effective immediately.

If you really have a problem with us being isolationistish... then... well, who cares? There are far worse nations out there, go and start a war with the ones that are actually oppressing their people or killing them...

((OOC: Well, the title of my post was pointless posturing. :roll: And as for starting wars, I think I'm spread a bit too thin right now. Do a few more things to piss my self-righteous army commanders off and something might happen, though. To them not you, of course.))

*speaking for raysia*

This law has been repealed.
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=92884