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Al Anbar deploys first nuclear reactor

12-11-2003, 04:03
Ministry of Energy

Bismillah ir-Rahman ir-Rahim.

The Republic of Al Anbar is proud to announce that we have deployed our first nuclear reactor. The reactor, named "Osirak 2", has taken over the central and parts of the northern governate of Iraq. Another nuclear reactor is being built to take over the remainder of northern Iraq governate and take over parts of the Syrian governate.

Within three years, we plan to have all of Al Anbar covered by nuclear reactors with several of the old fossil fuel reactors providing backup power should the nuclear reactors go offline.

Glory to our saviour, Saddam Hussein!
12-11-2003, 04:06
Dark Terror congradulates Al Anbar on its achievment in moving to this more efficient source of power, and is willing to donate some SAM systems to aid in their defense against a possible attack by the imperialists.
12-11-2003, 04:24
Al Anbar would like to thank the nation of Dark Terror in their offer to supply Al Anbar with SAMs, but we have more than enough antiaircraft weaponry to defend our nuclear installations from attack.
Soviet Haaregrad
12-11-2003, 04:34
Congrats on opening your first nuclear plant.
12-11-2003, 06:51
bump
Omz222
12-11-2003, 07:14
We hope Al Anbar's new nuclear reactor will be used for peaceful puproses, to supply its people with efficent, modern nuclear energy technology in the 21st century.

--Foreign Affairs Ministry
12-11-2003, 07:24
We will observe you carefully. If there is any suggestion of using the reactors for weapons, we will not hesitate to strike.
13-11-2003, 03:03
We hope Al Anbar's new nuclear reactor will be used for peaceful puproses, to supply its people with efficent, modern nuclear energy technology in the 21st century.

--Foreign Affairs Ministry

We are sure that it will be used for 'peaceful purposes' and to supply the people with an efficent, modern nuclear energy.
13-11-2003, 03:05
We will observe you carefully. If there is any suggestion of using the reactors for weapons, we will not hesitate to strike.

Al Anbar does not take kind to your threats. Al Anbar has always been against the production of weapons of mass destruction. When the American infidels invaded us in March of 2003, we proved to them that we had no WMDs. Therefore, we suggest that you retract your threat before this evolves into something else more deadly.
Jeruselem
13-11-2003, 03:07
Err, congratuations. Oh yes, we are not going to do an Israel (1972).
13-11-2003, 03:09
Err, congratuations. Oh yes, we are not going to do an Israel (1972).

OOC: Why the heck do you keep bringing up the year 1972? Nothing notable happened to Israel that year.
Thelas
13-11-2003, 03:11
Err, congratuations. Oh yes, we are not going to do an Israel (1972).

OOC: Why the heck do you keep bringing up the year 1972? Nothing notable happened to Israel that year.

OOC: In 1972, Israel destroyed a Iraqi Nuclear Reactor that was sold to Saddam by the French, it turns out that the reactor was being used to build nuclear weapons.
Jeruselem
13-11-2003, 03:11
Err, congratuations. Oh yes, we are not going to do an Israel (1972).

OOC: Why the heck do you keep bringing up the year 1972? Nothing notable happened to Israel that year.

Flip
I meant the event of 7/6/1981.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/june/7/newsid_3014000/3014623.stm
13-11-2003, 03:11
Err, congratuations. Oh yes, we are not going to do an Israel (1972).

OOC: Why the heck do you keep bringing up the year 1972? Nothing notable happened to Israel that year.

OOC: In 1972, Israel destroyed a Iraqi Nuclear Reactor that was sold to Saddam by the French, it turns out that the reactor was being used to build nuclear weapons.

OOC: Wrong. That was 1981. And so what if it was making nuclear weapons? If Israel, US, Pakistan, India, Russia, etc. etc. can have nuclear weapons, why not Iraq? Pakistan is much more unstable and prone to the propagation of nuclear weapons than Iraq.
13-11-2003, 03:13
OOC:
Iran and Israel wouldve been probably nuked, then everyone wouldve glassed iraq.
13-11-2003, 03:15
OOC:
Iran and Israel wouldve been probably nuked, then everyone wouldve glassed iraq.

OOC: Probably not. The nuclear program of Iraq (which ended in early/mid-90's) was to balance the power in further wars with Israel. It was to be a deterrent to Israel, so that they would not use a nuclear bomb on an Arab country.
Thelas
13-11-2003, 03:15
Err, congratuations. Oh yes, we are not going to do an Israel (1972).

OOC: Why the heck do you keep bringing up the year 1972? Nothing notable happened to Israel that year.

OOC: In 1972, Israel destroyed a Iraqi Nuclear Reactor that was sold to Saddam by the French, it turns out that the reactor was being used to build nuclear weapons.

OOC: Wrong. That was 1981. And so what if it was making nuclear weapons? If Israel, US, Pakistan, India, Russia, etc. etc. can have nuclear weapons, why not Iraq? Pakistan is much more unstable and prone to the propagation of nuclear weapons than Iraq.


OOC: 1981? Ohh, got dates mixed, to be short, Iraq said that they would use nuclear weapons in a first strike mode against Israel, something that no other country has promised since the cold war ended. And also, Saddam is not a really sane person, I mean, the honestly thought that he could beat the coalition armies in a head to head tank battle, one of the most stupid things to think.
13-11-2003, 03:17
OOC: 1981? Ohh, got dates mixed, to be short, Iraq said that they would use nuclear weapons in a first strike mode against Israel, something that no other country has promised since the cold war ended. And also, Saddam is not a really sane person, I mean, the honestly thought that he could beat the coalition armies in a head to head tank battle, one of the most stupid things to think.

OOC: That's a lie.

Iraq never said that they would attack Israel.

Saddam is more sane than Bush.

In 1991, Saddam could have caused a stalemate had the US not had an overpowering air force that could see where the tanks were located in the desert and destroy them.
Thelas
13-11-2003, 03:22
OOC: 1981? Ohh, got dates mixed, to be short, Iraq said that they would use nuclear weapons in a first strike mode against Israel, something that no other country has promised since the cold war ended. And also, Saddam is not a really sane person, I mean, the honestly thought that he could beat the coalition armies in a head to head tank battle, one of the most stupid things to think.

OOC: That's a lie.

Iraq never said that they would attack Israel.

Saddam is more sane than Bush.

In 1991, Saddam could have caused a stalemate had the US not had an overpowering air force that could see where the tanks were located in the desert and destroy them.


Actualy it is not, Saddam at one point threatend to attack Israel, little known fact, the media never really covered it, and at this point f night, I am too tired to slog through my history bin to find the stupid file.

On another note, no, Saddam could never has caused a stalemate, the Iraqi tanks were so much worse than the U.S. Abrahms MBTs that the T-72 tanks, used by the Iraqi armed forces, fired shells that only with very good luck, ever exploded when they hit the MBTs, same with the British tanks.

And I am very sure that Iraq threatend Israel, I am very sure. And could you please provide evidence that Saddam is more sane than the U.S. President.
13-11-2003, 03:27
OOC: 1981? Ohh, got dates mixed, to be short, Iraq said that they would use nuclear weapons in a first strike mode against Israel, something that no other country has promised since the cold war ended. And also, Saddam is not a really sane person, I mean, the honestly thought that he could beat the coalition armies in a head to head tank battle, one of the most stupid things to think.

OOC: That's a lie.

Iraq never said that they would attack Israel.

Saddam is more sane than Bush.

In 1991, Saddam could have caused a stalemate had the US not had an overpowering air force that could see where the tanks were located in the desert and destroy them.


Actualy it is not, Saddam at one point threatend to attack Israel, little known fact, the media never really covered it, and at this point f night, I am too tired to slog through my history bin to find the stupid file.

On another note, no, Saddam could never has caused a stalemate, the Iraqi tanks were so much worse than the U.S. Abrahms MBTs that the T-72 tanks, used by the Iraqi armed forces, fired shells that only with very good luck, ever exploded when they hit the MBTs, same with the British tanks.

And I am very sure that Iraq threatend Israel, I am very sure. And could you please provide evidence that Saddam is more sane than the U.S. President.

1) Again, that's a lie.

2) Iraq could have caused a stalemate or atleast caused much much more casulities than they did.

3) Never threatened Israel. Now, let's look... Bush attacks Iraq on lies, now is allowing the wholesale slaughter of Iraqis, caused the world to hate the US, caused the deaths of thousands and thousands of innocent people, and caused more people to become terrorists. Oh! And we least forget what he has done to the US economy... 2.5 million jobs lost in the US.
Thelas
13-11-2003, 03:38
1. I still say I am telling the truth

2. I agree with the "Much more casualties" part, but the U.S. would still have won very easily

3. How many times fdo I have to explain about the economy, first off, it akes arond three years for the economy to do anything, when President Bush came into power, the economy was allready n the downside, it was due to Clinton's neglegence, not any wrong doing, just the fact that if you leave the economy alone, it will crash, when Bush came into office he instituted tax-cuts and the like. Three Years Later, the economy is improving (If you want proof go ask some major economical pundits, that are not Democrats, I have learned, never ask a Democrat about anything President Bush has done, it will always be negative), and if you say that the economy is not improving because of Bush, let me get this straight, Bush is at fault when the economy is failing, yet when it improves, he deserves none of the credit.

And by the way, deaths attributed to U.S. and allied forces in Iraq are FAR less than the early estimates said that they were, if you belive Saddam's ministry of diss-information, they are in the millions, if you beleive independant reporters, try upper nine hundreds.


And let us move off of this toppic before a mod walks in a locks the thread, or even worse, sends it to general *shuder*
Thelas
13-11-2003, 03:38
1. I still say I am telling the truth

2. I agree with the "Much more casualties" part, but the U.S. would still have won very easily

3. How many times fdo I have to explain about the economy, first off, it akes arond three years for the economy to do anything, when President Bush came into power, the economy was allready n the downside, it was due to Clinton's neglegence, not any wrong doing, just the fact that if you leave the economy alone, it will crash, when Bush came into office he instituted tax-cuts and the like. Three Years Later, the economy is improving (If you want proof go ask some major economical pundits, that are not Democrats, I have learned, never ask a Democrat about anything President Bush has done, it will always be negative), and if you say that the economy is not improving because of Bush, let me get this straight, Bush is at fault when the economy is failing, yet when it improves, he deserves none of the credit.

And by the way, deaths attributed to U.S. and allied forces in Iraq are FAR less than the early estimates said that they were, if you belive Saddam's ministry of diss-information, they are in the millions, if you beleive independant reporters, try upper nine hundreds.


And let us move off of this toppic before a mod walks in a locks the thread, or even worse, sends it to general *shuder*
Dra-pol
13-11-2003, 03:42
The Choson Peoples' Republic of Dra-pol congratulated Al Anbar on its considerable technical achievement.

In a later encoded transmission to Al Anbar comrade Secretary Hotan went on-

The republic's own efforts towards similar ends have as yet proven unsuccessful owing to a want of required materials, technologies, and experience, as well as the imperialist Christian invasion in progress against the republic.

Dra-pol does of course posses a great many other resources, as is testified to by our nation's vast wealth (now greatly superior to that of the hated Americans) and its unbreakable resistance in the face of horrific odds. We wonder if it might be possible to co-operate or trade for the assistance of your nation's experts and/or resources to the end of producing our own efficient and reliable power source. The industrialisation forced upon us by the crusaders' war requires far more energy than our aged means can provide.
Jeruselem
13-11-2003, 03:43
OOC

That was a firestorm I started ...

IC

We assure Al Anbar no action will be taken towards his nation and wish to continue to live in peace. His assurances about using his reactors not being to produce weapons grade Uranium and Plutonium will be accepted, but the situation will be monitored.
13-11-2003, 04:06
The Choson Peoples' Republic of Dra-pol congratulated Al Anbar on its considerable technical achievement.

In a later encoded transmission to Al Anbar comrade Secretary Hotan went on-

The republic's own efforts towards similar ends have as yet proven unsuccessful owing to a want of required materials, technologies, and experience, as well as the imperialist Christian invasion in progress against the republic.

Dra-pol does of course posses a great many other resources, as is testified to by our nation's vast wealth (now greatly superior to that of the hated Americans) and its unbreakable resistance in the face of horrific odds. We wonder if it might be possible to co-operate or trade for the assistance of your nation's experts and/or resources to the end of producing our own efficient and reliable power source. The industrialisation forced upon us by the crusaders' war requires far more energy than our aged means can provide.

Secret Telegram to Dra-Pol

The Republic of Al Anbar understands Dra-pol's situation and would be more than willing to cooperate with Dra-pol in ventures to improve both our countries and the lifes of both our peoples.
13-11-2003, 04:10
1. I still say I am telling the truth

2. I agree with the "Much more casualties" part, but the U.S. would still have won very easily

3. How many times fdo I have to explain about the economy, first off, it akes arond three years for the economy to do anything, when President Bush came into power, the economy was allready n the downside, it was due to Clinton's neglegence, not any wrong doing, just the fact that if you leave the economy alone, it will crash, when Bush came into office he instituted tax-cuts and the like. Three Years Later, the economy is improving (If you want proof go ask some major economical pundits, that are not Democrats, I have learned, never ask a Democrat about anything President Bush has done, it will always be negative), and if you say that the economy is not improving because of Bush, let me get this straight, Bush is at fault when the economy is failing, yet when it improves, he deserves none of the credit.

And by the way, deaths attributed to U.S. and allied forces in Iraq are FAR less than the early estimates said that they were, if you belive Saddam's ministry of diss-information, they are in the millions, if you beleive independant reporters, try upper nine hundreds.


And let us move off of this toppic before a mod walks in a locks the thread, or even worse, sends it to general *shuder*

The last thing on this topic...

1) I'm telling the truth... :)

2) I doubt they would have won "easily".

3) Uh, not really. That's just some dribbel from the Republican Party. The reality is that the US economy was at its best until Bush took over.

4) So, AP and other independent sources are all "Saddam's Ministry of Diss-Information" yeah right. AP estimates 3,240 civilians killed in five weeks. I don't know where it is, but I saw a new estimate of upwards of 9000+ killed civilians up to now. The US is now slaughtering the Iraqis in Tikrit, Fallujah, Baghdad, and other areas. Just days ago, 3 500lbs bombs dropped on Fallujah. Couple days before that, artillery and bombs on Tikrit. Today several attacks in Baghdad.
Thelas
13-11-2003, 04:14
OOC: Can we please move on, I hate having to argue, we both know quite well that we will convince neither side, thus this debate is pointless, this is the reason I never go onto General

IC:

"We aprove of the actions of Al Anbar, the possetion of Neclear weapons ensures that these weapons will never bu used."

--Thelas Spokes Person
The Trojan Empire
13-11-2003, 04:19
We will observe you carefully. If there is any suggestion of using the reactors for weapons, we will not hesitate to strike.A vicious little warmongerer we have here, now. If there is any suggestion of Isochronous military movements, we will not hesistate to defend Al Anbar. What right do you have to attack a nation for developing weapons?

If you believe that a sovereign nation should be attacked because of weapon development, then you are a hypocrite. Does not Isochronous develop its own weapons? If so, does that give Troy the right to attack you for doing so?

But otherwise, we congratulate our noble allies and their devoted and glorious leader, Saddamn Hussein, over this recent development to help their people.

Ambassador Peleus
-The Trojan Empire-
Dra-pol
13-11-2003, 04:54
A pair of Dra-pol's ancient L2D4 transport aircraft (essentially Japanese DC3) lifted off from Kanggye, carrying a number of the republic's luckless nuclear technicians and several Banat agents across the Chinese border.

The worn out little planes will have to stop several times to refuel and to rest before they've even dragged themselves across that one nation, and no doubt again in Pakistan before making Al Anbar.

Dra-pol wasn't sure what compensation it might offer Al Anbar should a deal be struck, but the Banat agents assumed it would be financial.
13-11-2003, 07:08
Our spy satellites will continue to monitor Al Anbar.
13-11-2003, 07:19
Our spy satellites will continue to monitor Al Anbar.

That's nice.

We will continue to do what we wish when we wish.
Jeruselem
13-11-2003, 13:34
Our spy satellites will continue to monitor Al Anbar.

Not sure what your worried about. We're just west of Al Anbar (aka Iraq).

:)
The Trojan Empire
13-11-2003, 20:30
Our spy satellites will continue to monitor Al Anbar.Hmmm... interesting. You obviously are a shitty master of espionage. By annoucing that you will allow these "spy" satellites to monitor Al Anbar, you've given yourself away. What good is spying on someone if you announce it to the world?

Ambassador Peleus
-The Trojan Empire-
13-11-2003, 20:34
The Dictatorship of New Fascism is pleased that Al Anbar is striding forth in pride. We suggest that they consider a policy of Autarky and try to unite all classes under the common goal of glorifying the State.

~The Leader~
The State Incarnate
The Embodiment of Ideology
The Fascist Symbol
The Dictator of New Fascism
Dra-pol
14-11-2003, 15:18
The two prop-driven Drapoel aircraft cough and splutter their way through the skies approaching Al Anbar, their escort -an almost equally ancient S-3 Shinden-Jetto interceptor- in tow.

Agent Rika Cheiy was begining to think that his role in life was to sit in uncomfortable seats for the betterment of the republic. He heard a faint crackle from ahead as the pilot attempted to gain permission to enter Al Anbari airspace and to land.


(ooc:I am hoping to aquire for Dra-pol nuclear technologies and materials. I am not sure how much detail you want to/are willing to go into over RPing possible export of such from Al Anbar. Anywhere from agreeing that the meeting ended with Dra-pol puchasing X and Y from Al Anbar/did not manage to purchase anything up to pages of us detailing exactly who did and did not say and offer what.. is fine by me)
Menelmacar
14-11-2003, 19:00
Siri: Make sure we have a plan in place to destroy that reactor if need be.

Serendis: Yes, milady. It's no problem, really - put a ship in orbit directly above it, fire a single kinetic, and that reactor will go up like the Death Star.

Siri: Sounds like a plan to me.

http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/nationstates/sirithil/sirithilnosfeanor.gifLady Sirithil nos Fëanor
Elentári of the Eternal Noldorin Empire of Menelmacar
Regent of Lavenrunz, Chancellor of CENNA
"We have known freedom's price. We have shown freedom's power. We will see freedom's victory."
~US President George W. Bush
We Love the Iraqi Information Minister (http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com)
Clicky-clicky!
The Trojan Empire
14-11-2003, 22:08
Siri: Make sure we have a plan in place to destroy that reactor if need be.

Serendis: Yes, milady. It's no problem, really - put a ship in orbit directly above it, fire a single kinetic, and that reactor will go up like the Death Star.

Siri: Sounds like a plan to me.

http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/nationstates/sirithil/sirithilnosfeanor.gifLady Sirithil nos Fëanor
Elentári of the Eternal Noldorin Empire of Menelmacar
Regent of Lavenrunz, Chancellor of CENNA
"We have known freedom's price. We have shown freedom's power. We will see freedom's victory."
~US President George W. Bush
We Love the Iraqi Information Minister (http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com)
Clicky-clicky!An unprovoked attack on Al Anbar would be a very unwise move, Elven scum.

Ambassador Peleus
-The Trojan Empire-