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The World Will End, But I Can Help You!!!!!!

11-11-2003, 07:01
Hello. My name is Paukamah, and I am an agent from the Community of The Bretheren of Jah. I am here to try to win nations over to the side of life. You are all misled into your greedy, false-god-worshipping ways. Because the earth is so filled with strife and violence, the good lord Jah will destroy the earth on June 6th, 2066. (yes that resembles the devil's number, 666, but that is coincidence and the devil doesn't exist anyway.)

By joining us, you can live in the ways according to Jah. You will work hard, but you will finally feel at peace with yourself, and happiness you cannot imagine. We reject any forms of property and money, as well as international organizations like the U.N. A pure life comes with rules, like being honest, and not killing others or drinking, and it goes all the way to eating the right food and doing your duty without complaint. We live in communes, and we practice free love, for those who enjoy that kind of thing. :wink:

I am open to your questions. So please ask away.
11-11-2003, 07:05
reads newspaper and set's it down in disgust


REBA! GET ME MY SCHNAPPES! YEAR 1916!


a young woman quickly get's the schnappes and hands it to him


he pours it all over the paper takes it outside and burns it


think i am stupid enough to fall for that old "Bribe em then leave them in the ditch as you take their money and lands away from them"? i don't think so!
11-11-2003, 07:08
reads newspaper and set's it down in disgust


REBA! GET ME MY SCHNAPPES! YEAR 1916!


a young woman quickly get's the schnappes and hands it to him


he pours it all over the paper takes it outside and burns it


think i am stupid enough to fall for that old "Bribe em then leave them in the ditch as you take their money and lands away from them"? i don't think so!

que? are you suggesting that the Brotherhood is one of those cults that drag people in for money? we do not need money. We suggest that all new members donate thier money to a charity (like a children's hospital, for example), before joining.
11-11-2003, 07:09
NOW your just annoying me, at first you disgusted me but you just raised it to annoying beyond all hell
11-11-2003, 07:10
*sigh*

you can believe that if you want...
11-11-2003, 07:10
que? are you suggesting that the Brotherhood is one of those cults that drag people in for money? we do not need money. We suggest that all new members donate thier money to a charity (like a children's hospital, for example), before joining.

Ah, and there is your folly my friend. You see, corrupt as society is, the main corruption is our love of money, and we are hard-pressed to part with it for a reason that doesn't involve our own pleasure.
11-11-2003, 07:11
well, If me speaking about my beliefs irrates you, you are free to ignore this thread you know. :wink:
11-11-2003, 07:12
Well mister savior, I'd rather die then support your cultist group. Go rob another country like the rest of us.
11-11-2003, 07:13
que? are you suggesting that the Brotherhood is one of those cults that drag people in for money? we do not need money. We suggest that all new members donate thier money to a charity (like a children's hospital, for example), before joining.

Ah, and there is your folly my friend. You see, corrupt as society is, the main corruption is our love of money, and we are hard-pressed to part with it for a reason that doesn't involve our own pleasure.

yes, but your pleasure will result in your downfall as the world will be atomically pulled apart and blown away, including all people, in 63 years.
Mirkai
11-11-2003, 07:13
Why would I worship a God that would destroy the earth?
11-11-2003, 07:14
Well mister savior, I'd rather die then support your cultist group.

Then do that. I do feel sorry for you, but don't say I didn't warn you.
11-11-2003, 07:14
que? are you suggesting that the Brotherhood is one of those cults that drag people in for money? we do not need money. We suggest that all new members donate thier money to a charity (like a children's hospital, for example), before joining.

Ah, and there is your folly my friend. You see, corrupt as society is, the main corruption is our love of money, and we are hard-pressed to part with it for a reason that doesn't involve our own pleasure.

yes, but your pleasure will result in your downfall as the world will be atomically pulled apart and blown away, including all people, in 63 years.

I agree that humanity will end up destroying its self in the near future, but i doubt that your cultist group can save us.
11-11-2003, 07:15
Why would I worship a God that would destroy the earth?

It is an act of kindness if you think about it. By ending the world, Jah will be averting all the suffering that will come about day after day, generation after generation. But those that follow his teachings will not suffer.
11-11-2003, 07:15
Um... Okay. This sounds very interesting...
*cough*Idiotic*cough*
And we will seriously consider it...
*cough*as if!*cogh*
Would you accept a donation delivered in a large chest, that has a time lock on it, so we can evacuate any fool hearty Your Nicknamians who are in your cult before the time lock opens?
*cough*bomb*cough*
Mirkai
11-11-2003, 07:16
It is an act of kindness if you think about it. By ending the world, Jah will be averting all the suffering that will come about day after day, generation after generation. But those that follow his teachings will not suffer.

No, no. Killing humanity is something I'm in favor of. Why'd he destroy the planet and everything else living on it just to get rid of man? Couldn't he send some horrible disease to wipe people out or something?
11-11-2003, 07:17
que? are you suggesting that the Brotherhood is one of those cults that drag people in for money? we do not need money. We suggest that all new members donate thier money to a charity (like a children's hospital, for example), before joining.

Ah, and there is your folly my friend. You see, corrupt as society is, the main corruption is our love of money, and we are hard-pressed to part with it for a reason that doesn't involve our own pleasure.

yes, but your pleasure will result in your downfall as the world will be atomically pulled apart and blown away, including all people, in 63 years.

I agree that humanity will end up destroying its self in the near future, but i doubt that your cultist group can save us.

Yes he will! He put the bretheren on earth for a purpose*, and will save all the followers they have brought into the fold!

*the bretheren were placed on this earth about the christian year of 1960-ish.
11-11-2003, 07:18
I have to agree with Mirkai. If he only wiped out humanity, WOOT im all for it. It the billions of othe lifeforms here that shall remain untouched
11-11-2003, 07:18
Um... Okay. This sounds very interesting...
*cough*Idiotic*cough*
And we will seriously consider it...
*cough*as if!*cogh*
Would you accept a donation delivered in a large chest, that has a time lock on it, so we can evacuate any fool hearty Your Nicknamians who are in your cult before the time lock opens?
*cough*bomb*cough*

we don't accept donations, especially those that come with ticking timepieces. We may live simply, but we are not simpleminded.
11-11-2003, 07:19
It is an act of kindness if you think about it. By ending the world, Jah will be averting all the suffering that will come about day after day, generation after generation. But those that follow his teachings will not suffer.

No, no. Killing humanity is something I'm in favor of. Why'd he destroy the planet and everything else living on it just to get rid of man? Couldn't he send some horrible disease to wipe people out or something?

a horrible disease would increase the suffering, because in all dieseases, at least a few people would survive and have to bury everyone. I suppose he could send a combination of several dieases down to kill everyone, but that wouldn't be any fun at all. It is far more humane to rip them apart atom by atom. Nice and quick.
11-11-2003, 07:20
Awww nuts... Almost destroyed another Lunatic Cult!
11-11-2003, 07:20
I have to agree with Mirkai. If he only wiped out humanity, WOOT im all for it. It the billions of othe lifeforms here that shall remain untouched

Jah would like to take out just humanity, but unfortuantely another corrupt species would evolve again. Better to take out everything to minimize that risk.
11-11-2003, 07:21
Nice try Nick
11-11-2003, 07:21
good thing that most trasians nolonger live of earth then
11-11-2003, 07:22
good thing that most trasians nolonger live of earth then

Outer space comes next. No one is safe from Jah.
Mirkai
11-11-2003, 07:22
a horrible disease would increase the suffering, because in all dieseases, at least a few people would survive and have to bury everyone. I suppose he could send a combination of several dieases down to kill everyone, but that wouldn't be any fun at all. It is far more humane to rip them apart atom by atom. Nice and quick.

So your God would destroy an entire planet and it's inhabitants to kill one species? Pathetic. He obviously lacks clarity, power, compassion, and most everything else needed in a spiritual leader.

As for being "saved", I love this planet, so I'll just stay here and die with it.
11-11-2003, 07:22
I have to agree with Mirkai. If he only wiped out humanity, WOOT im all for it. It the billions of othe lifeforms here that shall remain untouched

Jah would like to take out just humanity, but unfortuantely another corrupt species would evolve again. Better to take out everything to minimize that risk.

Humanity is the ONLY corrupt race on earth. We are corrupt because of our different factions waring against each other. Animals do not count as corrupt.
imported_The Opressive Church
11-11-2003, 07:23
Ehem, speaking as one of these "Christian Religions who have doomed the Earth" I would just like to say this nation is Pacifistic, and has absolutely no WoMD. So, mister Jah, would you kindly piont out how this Christian Religion has doomed humanity? Or is that too much for Jah's dopped up spent brain to handle... Hippies...
11-11-2003, 07:24
Gezz Mirkai, ur saying everything im thinking.
11-11-2003, 07:25
yeah yeah whatever :roll:


you tell "Jah" that he can go to hell ok? i am too busy with recloning my POP right now
11-11-2003, 07:26
a horrible disease would increase the suffering, because in all dieseases, at least a few people would survive and have to bury everyone. I suppose he could send a combination of several dieases down to kill everyone, but that wouldn't be any fun at all. It is far more humane to rip them apart atom by atom. Nice and quick.

So your God would destroy an entire planet and it's inhabitants to kill one species? Pathetic. He obviously lacks clarity, power, compassion, and anything else I'm looking for in a spiritual guide.


Clarity? Jah is very clear. He let the earth get cleared out once before (about 7-5 billion years ago), and we popped back up again. Jah isn't any more clear than "Follow my rules or you'll get whacked".

Power? He can rip things apart at the atomic level. If that ain't power, I don't know what is.

Compassion? He is doing humanity a favor by ending all the suffering, as well as future suffering, by destroying the earth and its people in a very painless way. You won't know what hit you.
Mirkai
11-11-2003, 07:26
Gezz Mirkai, ur saying everything im thinking.

Great minds think alike. :wink:
11-11-2003, 07:26
That fact that your god has to destroy an entire planet shows not how great he is but how weak he is. If your god is all powerful he should be able to "remove us" in a glorious flash of light.
11-11-2003, 07:27
I have to agree with Mirkai. If he only wiped out humanity, WOOT im all for it. It the billions of othe lifeforms here that shall remain untouched

Jah would like to take out just humanity, but unfortuantely another corrupt species would evolve again. Better to take out everything to minimize that risk.

Humanity is the ONLY corrupt race on earth. We are corrupt because of our different factions waring against each other. Animals do not count as corrupt.

But the "animals" could evolve into something more.... impure. Impure creatures that could verily repeat the same mistakes as humanity.
11-11-2003, 07:27
a horrible disease would increase the suffering, because in all dieseases, at least a few people would survive and have to bury everyone. I suppose he could send a combination of several dieases down to kill everyone, but that wouldn't be any fun at all. It is far more humane to rip them apart atom by atom. Nice and quick.

So your God would destroy an entire planet and it's inhabitants to kill one species? Pathetic. He obviously lacks clarity, power, compassion, and anything else I'm looking for in a spiritual guide.


Clarity? Jah is very clear. He let the earth get cleared out once before (about 7-5 billion years ago), and we popped back up again. Jah isn't any more clear than "Follow my rules or you'll get whacked".

Power? He can rip things apart at the atomic level. If that ain't power, I don't know what is.

Compassion? He is doing humanity a favor by ending all the suffering, as well as future suffering, by destroying the earth and its people in a very painless way. You won't know what hit you.

You idiot, the universe (or at least THIS universe) and earth didnt exsist 5 billion years ago.
11-11-2003, 07:28
I have to agree with Mirkai. If he only wiped out humanity, WOOT im all for it. It the billions of othe lifeforms here that shall remain untouched

Jah would like to take out just humanity, but unfortuantely another corrupt species would evolve again. Better to take out everything to minimize that risk.

Humanity is the ONLY corrupt race on earth. We are corrupt because of our different factions waring against each other. Animals do not count as corrupt.

But the "animals" could evolve into something more.... impure. Impure creatures that could verily repeat the same mistakes as humanity.

Then your all powerful "god" should purify them when that time comes.
imported_The Opressive Church
11-11-2003, 07:28
Meh. God, and God alone created this planet. No minor cult diety can destroy it. Only God can destroy it... I quote myself "Hippies..."
The Crazy Karate Guy
11-11-2003, 07:28
hey...maybe if we destroy all of the psycho cults, we'll keep the world from being destroyed...*looks at Jah and cracks knuckles*
11-11-2003, 07:30
And just to finish my point of view here, is earth goes down in a giant cinimatic fireball, id rather go down with it then flee to a minor dietys zoo.
11-11-2003, 07:30
Ehem, speaking as one of these "Christian Religions who have doomed the Earth" I would just like to say this nation is Pacifistic, and has absolutely no WoMD. So, mister Jah, would you kindly piont out how this Christian Religion has doomed humanity? Or is that too much for Jah's dopped up spent brain to handle... Hippies...

Not just the Christians. Everyone, even athiests. How many people have been killed for "insert reason here?", be it grand deity, money, power, revenge, drugs, what have you? And it is too much trouble to get everyone to belive the truth as Jah has it. And people would not belive, and resist the truth. For Jah can't screw with free will, and I belive in the christian religion God can't either.
imported_The Opressive Church
11-11-2003, 07:30
hey...maybe if we destroy all of the psycho cults, we'll keep the world from being destroyed...*looks at Jah and cracks knuckles*

I second that motion!

*Calls in the Church goers, tells them to bring torches, and chant "Kill the Heretic!"*
11-11-2003, 07:31
a horrible disease would increase the suffering, because in all dieseases, at least a few people would survive and have to bury everyone. I suppose he could send a combination of several dieases down to kill everyone, but that wouldn't be any fun at all. It is far more humane to rip them apart atom by atom. Nice and quick.

So your God would destroy an entire planet and it's inhabitants to kill one species? Pathetic. He obviously lacks clarity, power, compassion, and anything else I'm looking for in a spiritual guide.


Clarity? Jah is very clear. He let the earth get cleared out once before (about 7-5 billion years ago), and we popped back up again. Jah isn't any more clear than "Follow my rules or you'll get whacked".

Power? He can rip things apart at the atomic level. If that ain't power, I don't know what is.

Compassion? He is doing humanity a favor by ending all the suffering, as well as future suffering, by destroying the earth and its people in a very painless way. You won't know what hit you.

You idiot, the universe (or at least THIS universe) and earth didnt exsist 5 billion years ago.

So when did we exist?
11-11-2003, 07:32
At the begining of the 7th cycle, Jah
Mirkai
11-11-2003, 07:32
But the "animals" could evolve into something more.... impure. Impure creatures that could verily repeat the same mistakes as humanity.

Oh, blow it out your arse you robe wearing goat stabber. Could, would, should, pah. What God must have his followers make excuses for his failings? If Jah was really all that powerful he could prevent such a thing. He could've prevented it from the beginning.

Come on, it's time we rid the earth of these Jah extremists. Quick, somebody get some assault rifle toting Conservatives.
11-11-2003, 07:32
That fact that your god has to destroy an entire planet shows not how great he is but how weak he is. If your god is all powerful he should be able to "remove us" in a glorious flash of light.

Yes, but another species would evolve and take our place. And he'd have to do that again.....and again........and again. There is only so much a deity can do before getting tired of killing you know.
11-11-2003, 07:33
And just to finish my point of view here, is earth goes down in a giant cinimatic fireball, id rather go down with it then flee to a minor dietys zoo.

Its not going down in a fireball. Everything would get ripped apart at the atomic level. Quick and painless.
11-11-2003, 07:34
That fact that your god has to destroy an entire planet shows not how great he is but how weak he is. If your god is all powerful he should be able to "remove us" in a glorious flash of light.

Yes, but another species would evolve and take our place. And he'd have to do that again.....and again........and again. There is only so much a deity can do before getting tired of killing you know.

Jah is a GOD. GODS ARE ALL POWERFUL. YOU ARE DOUBTING YOUR LEADERS ABILITIES! UR GONNA DIE WITH US HERETIC!
11-11-2003, 07:34
At the begining of the 7th cycle, Jah

Don't quite know what that means. would you care to explain?
11-11-2003, 07:35
At the begining of the 7th cycle, Jah

Don't quite know what that means. would you care to explain?

Gladly, this might take a while tho.

Ok where to begin. Have you ever heard of the theory of perpetual universal repitition?
11-11-2003, 07:36
But the "animals" could evolve into something more.... impure. Impure creatures that could verily repeat the same mistakes as humanity.

Oh, blow it out your arse you robe wearing goat stabber. Could, would, should, pah. What God must have his followers make excuses for his failings? If Jah was really all that powerful he could prevent such a thing. He could've prevented it from the beginning.

Come on, it's time we rid the earth of these Jah extremists. Quick, somebody get some assault rifle toting Conservatives.

Jah isn't all powerful. And we don't stab goats. We do not harm animals.
11-11-2003, 07:36
Jah isn't all powerful. And we don't stab goats. We do not harm animals.

if jah isnt all powerful, then he cant be considered a god
11-11-2003, 07:36
That fact that your god has to destroy an entire planet shows not how great he is but how weak he is. If your god is all powerful he should be able to "remove us" in a glorious flash of light.

Yes, but another species would evolve and take our place. And he'd have to do that again.....and again........and again. There is only so much a deity can do before getting tired of killing you know.

Jah is a GOD. GODS ARE ALL POWERFUL. YOU ARE DOUBTING YOUR LEADERS ABILITIES! UR GONNA DIE WITH US HERETIC!

your false god may be all powerful, but Jah isn't, and never made any claim to.
Mirkai
11-11-2003, 07:36
Clarity? Jah is very clear. He let the earth get cleared out once before (about 7-5 billion years ago), and we popped back up again. Jah isn't any more clear than "Follow my rules or you'll get whacked".

Power? He can rip things apart at the atomic level. If that ain't power, I don't know what is.

Compassion? He is doing humanity a favor by ending all the suffering, as well as future suffering, by destroying the earth and its people in a very painless way. You won't know what hit you.

Clarity is to be free of wants and desires. Your Jah seeks to have "fun" in the destruction of the planet. He is clouded and confused, and unfit to be followed.

Power is far more than destruction. Power is balance. It's being able to both create and destroy and do neither in excess. It is being able to control the power you have without letting it consume you. A torch is power. A burning man is dead.

Compassion? If he was compassionate he'd think of a better way then wiping out the planet to cure humanity of suffering.
11-11-2003, 07:37
At the begining of the 7th cycle, Jah

Don't quite know what that means. would you care to explain?

Gladly, this might take a while tho.

Ok where to begin. Have you ever heard of the theory of perpetual universal repitition?

no, but I would like to know what it is.
11-11-2003, 07:37
Jah isn't all powerful. And we don't stab goats. We do not harm animals.

if jah isnt all powerful, then he cant be considered a god

Says who?
11-11-2003, 07:38
Another thing for u to think about jah. Those few humans spared will become corrupted aswell and they will die to making your cult pointless.
Mirkai
11-11-2003, 07:38
Jah isn't all powerful. And we don't stab goats. We do not harm animals.

And yet Jah would destroy and entire planet full of them. Your God conflicts with your beliefs. Your religion is flawed.

You are the weakest link. Goodbye.
imported_The Opressive Church
11-11-2003, 07:38
All thee who renounce Jah, and come gracefully into the arms of God, will be forgiven for their hereticle whorshiping of that Jamacan sounding Hippie! Even if the Lunatic God, Jah destroys the Earth, God shall create it again, and all life on this planet shall be excepted into Heaven, except maybe some Jah cultists.
11-11-2003, 07:40
Clarity? Jah is very clear. He let the earth get cleared out once before (about 7-5 billion years ago), and we popped back up again. Jah isn't any more clear than "Follow my rules or you'll get whacked".

Power? He can rip things apart at the atomic level. If that ain't power, I don't know what is.

Compassion? He is doing humanity a favor by ending all the suffering, as well as future suffering, by destroying the earth and its people in a very painless way. You won't know what hit you.

Clarity is to be free of wants and desires. Your Jah seeks to have "fun" in the destruction of the planet. He is clouded and confused, and unfit to be followed.

Power is far more than destruction. Power is balance. It's being able to both create and destroy and do neither in excess. It is being able to control the power you have without letting it consume you. A torch is power. A burning man is dead.

Compassion? If he was compassionate he'd think of a better way then wiping out the planet to cure humanity of suffering.

Jah is clear of wants and desires. He has anything, and can make anything. He does not seek pleasure in destroying things. He is neither confused. He is just tired of seeing so much sadness and pain in the human race.

Jah has controlled his power. He could have destroyed the earth a million years ago, or right now if he wanted to. He is instead being kind enough to give you all a chance to consider life. and you have plenty of time.
11-11-2003, 07:42
Another thing for u to think about jah. Those few humans spared will become corrupted aswell and they will die to making your cult pointless.

They will not become corrupted. If you follow the rules, you will not want to deviate.
11-11-2003, 07:43
sorry had to log of for a few seconds. perpetual universal repitition is practicaly theres the big bang, universe expands, after a few billion years slingshots back in, universe colapses, big bang, cycle repeats.
11-11-2003, 07:43
Jah isn't all powerful. And we don't stab goats. We do not harm animals.

And yet Jah would destroy and entire planet full of them. Your God conflicts with your beliefs. Your religion is flawed.

You are the weakest link. Goodbye.

how so? Humans are not allowed to harm animals. I never said Jah couldn't. When I say "we", that doesn't include Jah.
11-11-2003, 07:43
All thee who renounce Jah, and come gracefully into the arms of God, will be forgiven for their hereticle whorshiping of that Jamacan sounding Hippie! Even if the Lunatic God, Jah destroys the Earth, God shall create it again, and all life on this planet shall be excepted into Heaven, except maybe some Jah cultists.

Your God doesn't exist.
11-11-2003, 07:43
Another thing for u to think about jah. Those few humans spared will become corrupted aswell and they will die to making your cult pointless.

They will not become corrupted. If you follow the rules, you will not want to deviate.

sorry jah but you cant change the human psyki. corruption is a part of humanity and you cannot change it.
11-11-2003, 07:44
All thee who renounce Jah, and come gracefully into the arms of God, will be forgiven for their hereticle whorshiping of that Jamacan sounding Hippie! Even if the Lunatic God, Jah destroys the Earth, God shall create it again, and all life on this planet shall be excepted into Heaven, except maybe some Jah cultists.

Your God doesn't exist.

Holy shit, we agree on something
imported_The Opressive Church
11-11-2003, 07:45
All thee who renounce Jah, and come gracefully into the arms of God, will be forgiven for their hereticle whorshiping of that Jamacan sounding Hippie! Even if the Lunatic God, Jah destroys the Earth, God shall create it again, and all life on this planet shall be excepted into Heaven, except maybe some Jah cultists.

Your God doesn't exist.

Haha, so you say God doesn't exist, but you expect people to believe in Jah!? Oh, that's a laugh... Now, where are those religious extremists I called, to burn down Jah temples, and attack Jah cultist homes...
Mirkai
11-11-2003, 07:45
Jah is clear of wants and desires. He has anything, and can make anything. He does not seek pleasure in destroying things. He is neither confused. He is just tired of seeing so much sadness and pain in the human race.

Jah has controlled his power. He could have destroyed the earth a million years ago, or right now if he wanted to. He is instead being kind enough to give you all a chance to consider life. and you have plenty of time.

He desires humanity to end. He has not found peace with his universe as it is, and is thus unfit to be a God. If he can make anything, why not make a race of humans that can't be corrupt in the first place?

He has lost control of it if he plans to destroy the planet. He never had control if he allowed humans to become corrupt.
11-11-2003, 07:46
gods, meaning creator of universe, all powerful, yadda yadda yadda, do not exsist. there maybe be races with godlike powers, but no god, no heaven, no hell.
Mirkai
11-11-2003, 07:46
how so? Humans are not allowed to harm animals. I never said Jah couldn't. When I say "we", that doesn't include Jah.

So your God would have you follow rules he himself is exempt from? Hm...Sounds an aweful lot like a dictatorship to me.
11-11-2003, 07:47
how so? Humans are not allowed to harm animals. I never said Jah couldn't. When I say "we", that doesn't include Jah.

So your God would have you follow rules he himself is exempt from? Hm...Sounds an aweful lot like a dictatorship to me.

hear hear
11-11-2003, 07:48
sorry had to log of for a few seconds. perpetual universal repitition is practicaly theres the big bang, universe expands, after a few billion years slingshots back in, universe colapses, big bang, cycle repeats.

ah. so the earth couldn't have existed at 5 billion years ago, because the big bang came about, or was it expanding? Either way, I'm not so good on these dates, its been a while since I've read the siddakahpaka. (our holy book) But basically, according to the story, the earth got formed somehow, (Jah didn't create it, that is certain), humanity came about, humanity got corrupted, Jah obliterates earth, humanity evolve again, and Jah will obliterate again, this time permanently.
11-11-2003, 07:49
Another thing for u to think about jah. Those few humans spared will become corrupted aswell and they will die to making your cult pointless.

They will not become corrupted. If you follow the rules, you will not want to deviate.

sorry jah but you cant change the human psyki. corruption is a part of humanity

How?
11-11-2003, 07:49
sorry had to log of for a few seconds. perpetual universal repitition is practicaly theres the big bang, universe expands, after a few billion years slingshots back in, universe colapses, big bang, cycle repeats.

ah. so the earth couldn't have existed at 5 billion years ago, because the big bang came about, or was it expanding? Either way, I'm not so good on these dates, its been a while since I've read the siddakahpaka. (our holy book) But basically, according to the story, the earth got formed somehow, (Jah didn't create it, that is certain), humanity came about, humanity got corrupted, Jah obliterates earth, humanity evolve again, and Jah will obliterate again, this time permanently.

Then who created jah
11-11-2003, 07:50
All thee who renounce Jah, and come gracefully into the arms of God, will be forgiven for their hereticle whorshiping of that Jamacan sounding Hippie! Even if the Lunatic God, Jah destroys the Earth, God shall create it again, and all life on this planet shall be excepted into Heaven, except maybe some Jah cultists.

Your God doesn't exist.

Haha, so you say God doesn't exist, but you expect people to believe in Jah!? Oh, that's a laugh... Now, where are those religious extremists I called, to burn down Jah temples, and attack Jah cultist homes...

We don't have temples, or houses.
imported_The Opressive Church
11-11-2003, 07:50
If you were going to create a ficticious Jamacan sounding Hippie god, why not have him inspire hope in humans, rather then just make it hopeless to live. This sounds like a Joan's Town type of cult... I'll give 10 to 1 odds Jah cultists commit ritual suicide in the name of Jah, at somet ime in History...

Wait, gambling is illegal in the church... Repel that immediatly!
Mirkai
11-11-2003, 07:50
ah. so the earth couldn't have existed at 5 billion years ago, because the big bang came about, or was it expanding? Either way, I'm not so good on these dates, its been a while since I've read the siddakahpaka. (our holy book) But basically, according to the story, the earth got formed somehow, (Jah didn't create it, that is certain), humanity came about, humanity got corrupted, Jah obliterates earth, humanity evolve again, and Jah will obliterate again, this time permanently.

That doesn't make Jah a God. A God must create. A god must destroy only what he creates. Jah, is just a destroyer. He will obliterate that which is not his for his own gain.

Tell me the God that created what Jah will destroy, and that is who I shall follow.
11-11-2003, 07:50
They will not become corrupted. If you follow the rules, you will not want to deviate.

sorry jah but you cant change the human psyki. corruption is a part of humanity and you cannot change it.

How?

You can change the surrounding, you can change the body, but you cannot change the thoughts placed in that mind from years of exposer
11-11-2003, 07:52
ah. so the earth couldn't have existed at 5 billion years ago, because the big bang came about, or was it expanding? Either way, I'm not so good on these dates, its been a while since I've read the siddakahpaka. (our holy book) But basically, according to the story, the earth got formed somehow, (Jah didn't create it, that is certain), humanity came about, humanity got corrupted, Jah obliterates earth, humanity evolve again, and Jah will obliterate again, this time permanently.

That doesn't make Jah a God. A God must create. A god must destroy only what he creates. Jah, is just a destroyer. He will obliterate that which is not his for his own gain.

Tell me the God that created what Jah will destroy, and that is who I shall follow.

Wow, didnt think of that. Jah is mearly a devourer that interfers with things that do not involve him
11-11-2003, 07:52
haha your "gods" just really nosey
11-11-2003, 07:52
Jah is clear of wants and desires. He has anything, and can make anything. He does not seek pleasure in destroying things. He is neither confused. He is just tired of seeing so much sadness and pain in the human race.

Jah has controlled his power. He could have destroyed the earth a million years ago, or right now if he wanted to. He is instead being kind enough to give you all a chance to consider life. and you have plenty of time.

He desires humanity to end. He has not found peace with his universe as it is, and is thus unfit to be a God. If he can make anything, why not make a race of humans that can't be corrupt in the first place?

He has lost control of it if he plans to destroy the planet. He never had control if he allowed humans to become corrupt.

He didn't have control over it, infact, he left earth to its own devices. He didn't create humanity. The earth did, over the years. And he is not at peace because he let humanity suffer, and they still suffer. And he needs not to be at peace. He is not perfect, nor needs to be.
11-11-2003, 07:53
sorry had to log of for a few seconds. perpetual universal repitition is practicaly theres the big bang, universe expands, after a few billion years slingshots back in, universe colapses, big bang, cycle repeats.

ah. so the earth couldn't have existed at 5 billion years ago, because the big bang came about, or was it expanding? Either way, I'm not so good on these dates, its been a while since I've read the siddakahpaka. (our holy book) But basically, according to the story, the earth got formed somehow, (Jah didn't create it, that is certain), humanity came about, humanity got corrupted, Jah obliterates earth, humanity evolve again, and Jah will obliterate again, this time permanently.

Then who created jah

Don't know that myself.
imported_The Opressive Church
11-11-2003, 07:54
Remember which God has been kind to you, and created the foundation of Western Society! Remember that before anyone converts!

Also remember that the Church has aid programs, that Cult does not!
11-11-2003, 07:54
Jah is clear of wants and desires. He has anything, and can make anything. He does not seek pleasure in destroying things. He is neither confused. He is just tired of seeing so much sadness and pain in the human race.

Jah has controlled his power. He could have destroyed the earth a million years ago, or right now if he wanted to. He is instead being kind enough to give you all a chance to consider life. and you have plenty of time.

He desires humanity to end. He has not found peace with his universe as it is, and is thus unfit to be a God. If he can make anything, why not make a race of humans that can't be corrupt in the first place?

He has lost control of it if he plans to destroy the planet. He never had control if he allowed humans to become corrupt.

He didn't have control over it, infact, he left earth to its own devices. He didn't create humanity. The earth did, over the years. And he is not at peace because he let humanity suffer, and they still suffer. And he needs not to be at peace. He is not perfect, nor needs to be.

Gaia (the earth spirit for those who care) cannot creat, it can only support.
11-11-2003, 07:54
Remember which God has been kind to you, and created the foundation of Western Society! Remember that before anyone converts!

Also remember that the Church has aid programs, that Cult does not!

Give me proff that your god cares or exsists and i MAY follow
11-11-2003, 07:55
Then who created jah

Don't know that myself.

Ask him and return with answers
imported_The Opressive Church
11-11-2003, 07:56
Jah is clear of wants and desires. He has anything, and can make anything. He does not seek pleasure in destroying things. He is neither confused. He is just tired of seeing so much sadness and pain in the human race.

Jah has controlled his power. He could have destroyed the earth a million years ago, or right now if he wanted to. He is instead being kind enough to give you all a chance to consider life. and you have plenty of time.

He desires humanity to end. He has not found peace with his universe as it is, and is thus unfit to be a God. If he can make anything, why not make a race of humans that can't be corrupt in the first place?

He has lost control of it if he plans to destroy the planet. He never had control if he allowed humans to become corrupt.

He didn't have control over it, infact, he left earth to its own devices. He didn't create humanity. The earth did, over the years. And he is not at peace because he let humanity suffer, and they still suffer. And he needs not to be at peace. He is not perfect, nor needs to be.

I see... So a God suffering from Depression gives him the right to destroy an entire planet, and all it's creatures, just to feel at Peace with himself... Yes, sounds perfect, just like a 5 year old's logic...
Mirkai
11-11-2003, 07:56
He didn't have control over it, infact, he left earth to its own devices. He didn't create humanity. The earth did, over the years. And he is not at peace because he let humanity suffer, and they still suffer. And he needs not to be at peace. He is not perfect, nor needs to be.

As I said, if he didn't create the earth or humanity he has no right to interfere in it's progress. It'd be like if I walked into someone's house and started randomly destroying and rearranging things.

If he is not perfect, what right does he have to judge an entire planet? What right does he have to destroy humanity for it's imperfect suffering when he himself is imperfect? It seems to me that a better answer for Jah would be to destroy himself.
11-11-2003, 07:56
If you were going to create a ficticious Jamacan sounding Hippie god, why not have him inspire hope in humans, rather then just make it hopeless to live. This sounds like a Joan's Town type of cult... I'll give 10 to 1 odds Jah cultists commit ritual suicide in the name of Jah, at somet ime in History...

Wait, gambling is illegal in the church... Repel that immediatly!

There is hope. If you follow the teachings, and if you slip up, but sincerly try, Jah will save you. If you do not, you'll get ripped apart. It is that simple. Oh, Jonestown you mean? We do not belive in suicide, or killing. There is no afterlife, no heaven. We trust Jah to save us because we lived according to his wishes, not because we want him to pity us because we were cowards and killed ourselves.
11-11-2003, 07:57
hypocritical gods, gotta love it
11-11-2003, 07:58
how so? Humans are not allowed to harm animals. I never said Jah couldn't. When I say "we", that doesn't include Jah.

So your God would have you follow rules he himself is exempt from? Hm...Sounds an aweful lot like a dictatorship to me.

he has our best interests at heart. he may not be powerful, but he will take care of those who follow him.
11-11-2003, 07:58
There is hope. If you follow the teachings, and if you slip up, but sincerly try, Jah will save you. If you do not, you'll get ripped apart. It is that simple. Oh, Jonestown you mean? We do not belive in suicide, or killing. There is no afterlife, no heaven. We trust Jah to save us because we lived according to his wishes, not because we want him to pity us because we were cowards and killed ourselves.

Humanity are not cowards because we are still trying while Jah has just given up on us. That makes up better then him/her/it.
imported_The Opressive Church
11-11-2003, 07:58
If you were going to create a ficticious Jamacan sounding Hippie god, why not have him inspire hope in humans, rather then just make it hopeless to live. This sounds like a Joan's Town type of cult... I'll give 10 to 1 odds Jah cultists commit ritual suicide in the name of Jah, at somet ime in History...

Wait, gambling is illegal in the church... Repel that immediatly!

There is hope. If you follow the teachings, and if you slip up, but sincerly try, Jah will save you. If you do not, you'll get ripped apart. It is that simple. Oh, Jonestown you mean? We do not belive in suicide, or killing. There is no afterlife, no heaven. We trust Jah to save us because we lived according to his wishes, not because we want him to pity us because we were cowards and killed ourselves.

If there is no afterlife, how can Jah save you?

Save you from yourself?!

Don't give me that, Humanity is at it's peak, and it is far kinder now then it ever was. Jah is insane, he cannot save you if there is no afterlife. You're contradicting yourself!
Mirkai
11-11-2003, 07:59
he has our best interests at heart. he may not be powerful, but he will take care of those who follow him.

And if none follow him?
11-11-2003, 08:00
ah. so the earth couldn't have existed at 5 billion years ago, because the big bang came about, or was it expanding? Either way, I'm not so good on these dates, its been a while since I've read the siddakahpaka. (our holy book) But basically, according to the story, the earth got formed somehow, (Jah didn't create it, that is certain), humanity came about, humanity got corrupted, Jah obliterates earth, humanity evolve again, and Jah will obliterate again, this time permanently.

That doesn't make Jah a God. A God must create. A god must destroy only what he creates. Jah, is just a destroyer. He will obliterate that which is not his for his own gain.

Tell me the God that created what Jah will destroy, and that is who I shall follow.

Jah simply got the ball rolling, and let the course of events take care of itself.
11-11-2003, 08:01
then it all works itself out
imported_The Opressive Church
11-11-2003, 08:01
Remember which God has been kind to you, and created the foundation of Western Society! Remember that before anyone converts!

Also remember that the Church has aid programs, that Cult does not!

Give me proff that your god cares or exsists and i MAY follow

I cannot give you proof, for there exists none. I do not even know myself if God exists. But, I do know that the Church can offer you hope. Hope that when you die, there is something beyond. Jah can only offer death, and destruction for his own "Peace" and he promisses no afterlife.
11-11-2003, 08:02
They will not become corrupted. If you follow the rules, you will not want to deviate.

sorry jah but you cant change the human psyki. corruption is a part of humanity and you cannot change it.

How?

You can change the surrounding, you can change the body, but you cannot change the thoughts placed in that mind from years of exposer

well, that is why we expect new members to slip up every now and then, so that is why we encourage people to have children. They will be raised into the teachings and will know the truth, and act accordingly. Well, maybe not when they are small, (of course a little kid would slip up!) but they will mature eventually.
11-11-2003, 08:03
Its seems that Jah is insecure with himself and has to find followers to make himself feel greater like a guy with a small dick who buys a hummer. Jah demonstrats the same weakness and corruption of humanity so following him is futile.
11-11-2003, 08:03
ah. so the earth couldn't have existed at 5 billion years ago, because the big bang came about, or was it expanding? Either way, I'm not so good on these dates, its been a while since I've read the siddakahpaka. (our holy book) But basically, according to the story, the earth got formed somehow, (Jah didn't create it, that is certain), humanity came about, humanity got corrupted, Jah obliterates earth, humanity evolve again, and Jah will obliterate again, this time permanently.

That doesn't make Jah a God. A God must create. A god must destroy only what he creates. Jah, is just a destroyer. He will obliterate that which is not his for his own gain.

Tell me the God that created what Jah will destroy, and that is who I shall follow.

Wow, didnt think of that. Jah is mearly a devourer that interfers with things that do not involve him

well, the only reason he got involved with earth was because he saw that horrible things were happening down here and it really did grate on his concience. He had to do something to right that.
Roania
11-11-2003, 08:05
I cannot give you proof, for there exists none. I do not even know myself if God exists. But, I do know that the Church can offer you hope. Hope that when you die, there is something beyond. Jah can only offer death, and destruction for his own "Peace" and he promisses no afterlife.

So, you don't know if god exists?

*Stretches Inquisitorial muscles*

'Nuf said.

well, that is why we expect new members to slip up every now and then, so that is why we encourage people to have children. They will be raised into the teachings and will know the truth, and act accordingly. Well, maybe not when they are small, (of course a little kid would slip up!) but they will mature eventually.

"A tiny little death cult. This is vaguely alarming." Cardinal Richelieu said in a telex to Cardinal Frazer. "This type of thing must be dealt with as they crop up. However, let us here more about this 'date of obliteration."
11-11-2003, 08:05
You can change the surrounding, you can change the body, but you cannot change the thoughts placed in that mind from years of exposer

well, that is why we expect new members to slip up every now and then, so that is why we encourage people to have children. They will be raised into the teachings and will know the truth, and act accordingly. Well, maybe not when they are small, (of course a little kid would slip up!) but they will mature eventually.

Children will beleive anything as long as its slammed into them for 4 years. For example, if you tell a child that 2+2=5 for four years, eventually he'll beleive that. your system is mearly mind control.
imported_The Opressive Church
11-11-2003, 08:05
well, the only reason he got involved with earth was because he saw that horrible things were happening down here and it really did grate on his concience. He had to do something to right that.

Destroying the Earth isn't doing anything but sweeping the problem away. jah has prooven his own stupidity!
11-11-2003, 08:07
Remember which God has been kind to you, and created the foundation of Western Society! Remember that before anyone converts!

Also remember that the Church has aid programs, that Cult does not!

how do you know God has been kind to you? Did he really create the foundation of western society, or did those pagan athenian Greeks with thier democratic ideals do that?

and we are not a cult. We do not need aid programs, because if people are in need and we are in a position to help them, we do it. Not a compassionate bit of society that accomplishes good while the majority looks away.
11-11-2003, 08:07
You still have yet to say why hes allowed to interfere with us
11-11-2003, 08:07
What To Do With A Nation Of Mad Hippie Cultists
issue polite warning
If warning not listened to, call Roania and apprise him of the situation
Go buy popcorn
Watch destruction while eating the popcorn
11-11-2003, 08:08
wow
11-11-2003, 08:08
Jah is clear of wants and desires. He has anything, and can make anything. He does not seek pleasure in destroying things. He is neither confused. He is just tired of seeing so much sadness and pain in the human race.

Jah has controlled his power. He could have destroyed the earth a million years ago, or right now if he wanted to. He is instead being kind enough to give you all a chance to consider life. and you have plenty of time.

He desires humanity to end. He has not found peace with his universe as it is, and is thus unfit to be a God. If he can make anything, why not make a race of humans that can't be corrupt in the first place?

He has lost control of it if he plans to destroy the planet. He never had control if he allowed humans to become corrupt.

He didn't have control over it, infact, he left earth to its own devices. He didn't create humanity. The earth did, over the years. And he is not at peace because he let humanity suffer, and they still suffer. And he needs not to be at peace. He is not perfect, nor needs to be.

Gaia (the earth spirit for those who care) cannot creat, it can only support.

I never said Gaia created. For all we know, a meteor (or what have you), could have brought life to earth and thrived from there.
11-11-2003, 08:09
Gaia (the earth spirit for those who care) cannot creat, it can only support.

I never said Gaia created. For all we know, a meteor (or what have you), could have brought life to earth and thrived from there.

wrong Jah, u said ur self that the earth created humanity
11-11-2003, 08:09
Remember which God has been kind to you, and created the foundation of Western Society! Remember that before anyone converts!

Also remember that the Church has aid programs, that Cult does not!

Give me proff that your god cares or exsists and i MAY follow

wait until 6/6/66 and you'll see. Or maybe not. You won't know what hit you.
Mirkai
11-11-2003, 08:10
Enough talk. 1800's Salem had a great way of dealing with people like this...

*Grabs a pitchfork and some kindling*
Roania
11-11-2003, 08:10
OOC: I have yet to be apprised of this situation...

*Reads entire thread*

Okay.

IC:

TO: The Archprelate, or whatever you call yourself, of the Brethren of Jah
FROM: Cardinal Johannes Richelieu, Roman Catholic Church.

My friend, I would be pleased if you came to Roania to discuss with me this religion of yours. I find it fascinating. You may bring as many guards as you please, you have nothing to fear.
11-11-2003, 08:10
Remember which God has been kind to you, and created the foundation of Western Society! Remember that before anyone converts!

Also remember that the Church has aid programs, that Cult does not!

Give me proff that your god cares or exsists and i MAY follow

wait until 6/6/66 and you'll see. Or maybe not. You won't know what hit you.

now ur merging cristianity with ur own cultist beleifs.
11-11-2003, 08:10
There is hope. If you follow the teachings, and if you slip up, but sincerly try, Jah will save you. If you do not, you'll get ripped apart. It is that simple. Oh, Jonestown you mean? We do not belive in suicide, or killing. There is no afterlife, no heaven. We trust Jah to save us because we lived according to his wishes, not because we want him to pity us because we were cowards and killed ourselves.

Humanity are not cowards because we are still trying while Jah has just given up on us. That makes up better then him/her/it.

Jah hasn't given up on us. If he did he wouldn't be giving humans a chance to follow his ways.
11-11-2003, 08:11
Then who created jah

Don't know that myself.

Ask him and return with answers

Why don't you join and ask for yourself?
imported_The Opressive Church
11-11-2003, 08:11
Remember which God has been kind to you, and created the foundation of Western Society! Remember that before anyone converts!

Also remember that the Church has aid programs, that Cult does not!

Give me proff that your god cares or exsists and i MAY follow

wait until 6/6/66 and you'll see. Or maybe not. You won't know what hit you.


Bah, he just prooved himself as Satan for picking that date! 2 days later or earlier, no Satan remarks, but 6/6/66 prooves he's Satan! Jah is Satan!
11-11-2003, 08:11
There is hope. If you follow the teachings, and if you slip up, but sincerly try, Jah will save you. If you do not, you'll get ripped apart. It is that simple. Oh, Jonestown you mean? We do not belive in suicide, or killing. There is no afterlife, no heaven. We trust Jah to save us because we lived according to his wishes, not because we want him to pity us because we were cowards and killed ourselves.

Humanity are not cowards because we are still trying while Jah has just given up on us. That makes up better then him/her/it.

Jah hasn't given up on us. If he did he wouldn't be giving humans a chance to follow his ways.

since only 5 people will follow him, hes given up on 99.999999% of us.
11-11-2003, 08:11
Jah is clear of wants and desires. He has anything, and can make anything. He does not seek pleasure in destroying things. He is neither confused. He is just tired of seeing so much sadness and pain in the human race.

Jah has controlled his power. He could have destroyed the earth a million years ago, or right now if he wanted to. He is instead being kind enough to give you all a chance to consider life. and you have plenty of time.

He desires humanity to end. He has not found peace with his universe as it is, and is thus unfit to be a God. If he can make anything, why not make a race of humans that can't be corrupt in the first place?

He has lost control of it if he plans to destroy the planet. He never had control if he allowed humans to become corrupt.

He didn't have control over it, infact, he left earth to its own devices. He didn't create humanity. The earth did, over the years. And he is not at peace because he let humanity suffer, and they still suffer. And he needs not to be at peace. He is not perfect, nor needs to be.

I see... So a God suffering from Depression gives him the right to destroy an entire planet, and all it's creatures, just to feel at Peace with himself... Yes, sounds perfect, just like a 5 year old's logic...

Well why not?
Mirkai
11-11-2003, 08:11
IC? OOC?

*Looks up*

Holy Crap, how long have I been in Nationstates?

*All of a sudden feels like Dorothy in Oz*
Roania
11-11-2003, 08:12
OOC: I have yet to be apprised of this situation...

*Reads entire thread*

Okay.

IC:

TO: The Archprelate, or whatever you call yourself, of the Brethren of Jah
FROM: Cardinal Johannes Richelieu, Roman Catholic Church.

My friend, I would be pleased if you came to Roania to discuss with me this religion of yours. I find it fascinating. You may bring as many guards as you please, you have nothing to fear.

OOC: Answer, or I stop being nice. :)
11-11-2003, 08:13
I see... So a God suffering from Depression gives him the right to destroy an entire planet, and all it's creatures, just to feel at Peace with himself... Yes, sounds perfect, just like a 5 year old's logic...

Well why not?

Do i have the right to kill my neighbors because i get layed off? NO! your gods power has corrupted him. "absolute power corrupts absolutly" this proves it
imported_The Opressive Church
11-11-2003, 08:14
OOC: I have yet to be apprised of this situation...

*Reads entire thread*

Okay.

IC:

TO: The Archprelate, or whatever you call yourself, of the Brethren of Jah
FROM: Cardinal Johannes Richelieu, Roman Catholic Church.

My friend, I would be pleased if you came to Roania to discuss with me this religion of yours. I find it fascinating. You may bring as many guards as you please, you have nothing to fear.

OOC: Answer, or I stop being nice. :)

*Snickers* Yes, please do. I have recently taken up such an offer, and it was most enterpirsing for my Religion. I suggest you take him up on that offer immediately!
11-11-2003, 08:15
He didn't have control over it, infact, he left earth to its own devices. He didn't create humanity. The earth did, over the years. And he is not at peace because he let humanity suffer, and they still suffer. And he needs not to be at peace. He is not perfect, nor needs to be.

As I said, if he didn't create the earth or humanity he has no right to interfere in it's progress. It'd be like if I walked into someone's house and started randomly destroying and rearranging things.

If he is not perfect, what right does he have to judge an entire planet? What right does he have to destroy humanity for it's imperfect suffering when he himself is imperfect? It seems to me that a better answer for Jah would be to destroy himself.

He has a right because he caused all this suffering to happen by his lack of attention. So therefore, he has a right to fix it. And yes he is imperfect, but nothing is, and anyway, if he didn't start the chain of events, you wouldn't exist, and I wouldn't either. And if he killed himself, that wouldn't be productive, because then he would let even more suffering happen.
11-11-2003, 08:15
He didn't have control over it, infact, he left earth to its own devices. He didn't create humanity. The earth did, over the years. And he is not at peace because he let humanity suffer, and they still suffer. And he needs not to be at peace. He is not perfect, nor needs to be.

As I said, if he didn't create the earth or humanity he has no right to interfere in it's progress. It'd be like if I walked into someone's house and started randomly destroying and rearranging things.

If he is not perfect, what right does he have to judge an entire planet? What right does he have to destroy humanity for it's imperfect suffering when he himself is imperfect? It seems to me that a better answer for Jah would be to destroy himself.

He has a right because he caused all this suffering to happen by his lack of attention. So therefore, he has a right to fix it. And yes he is imperfect, but nothing is, and anyway, if he didn't start the chain of events, you wouldn't exist, and I wouldn't either. And if he killed himself, that wouldn't be productive, because then he would let even more suffering happen.

but i thought jah didnt creat humanity
11-11-2003, 08:16
If you were going to create a ficticious Jamacan sounding Hippie god, why not have him inspire hope in humans, rather then just make it hopeless to live. This sounds like a Joan's Town type of cult... I'll give 10 to 1 odds Jah cultists commit ritual suicide in the name of Jah, at somet ime in History...

Wait, gambling is illegal in the church... Repel that immediatly!

There is hope. If you follow the teachings, and if you slip up, but sincerly try, Jah will save you. If you do not, you'll get ripped apart. It is that simple. Oh, Jonestown you mean? We do not belive in suicide, or killing. There is no afterlife, no heaven. We trust Jah to save us because we lived according to his wishes, not because we want him to pity us because we were cowards and killed ourselves.

If there is no afterlife, how can Jah save you?

Save you from yourself?!

Don't give me that, Humanity is at it's peak, and it is far kinder now then it ever was. Jah is insane, he cannot save you if there is no afterlife. You're contradicting yourself!

No I am not. He will pull his faithfull out in time, before you all get ripped apart. And if humanity is far kinder than it was before, why do we have atomic bombs and grenades, and semi-automatic weapons?
11-11-2003, 08:17
he has our best interests at heart. he may not be powerful, but he will take care of those who follow him.

And if none follow him?

I follow him, and my fellow bretheren of 7 million, last time I looked.
11-11-2003, 08:17
I think Jah has some alterier motives here.

I think he FEARS us. He fears what we may become.

He fears we may rise up and destroy him.
11-11-2003, 08:18
I'll be logging off in 10 minutes, just so you know. I'll be happy to keep up the discussion via telegram, if anyone's interested.
imported_The Opressive Church
11-11-2003, 08:18
Yes, but those weapons are far more humane then Axes, and Pikes... You try being Impalled, and then try being shot, which do you think will hurt worse?
11-11-2003, 08:19
Remember which God has been kind to you, and created the foundation of Western Society! Remember that before anyone converts!

Also remember that the Church has aid programs, that Cult does not!

Give me proff that your god cares or exsists and i MAY follow

I cannot give you proof, for there exists none. I do not even know myself if God exists. But, I do know that the Church can offer you hope. Hope that when you die, there is something beyond. Jah can only offer death, and destruction for his own "Peace" and he promisses no afterlife.

he does not need an afterlife if he is going to save you from utter distruction.
imported_The Opressive Church
11-11-2003, 08:20
Roania asked you for a conference, I think he feels ignored, as you have not replied...
11-11-2003, 08:20
Its seems that Jah is insecure with himself and has to find followers to make himself feel greater like a guy with a small dick who buys a hummer. Jah demonstrats the same weakness and corruption of humanity so following him is futile.

no it is not. If you don't follow him you will simply die.
11-11-2003, 08:21
those weapons were created because of the1 thing that can destroy us, our warring factions. If humanity unites, there will be no need for them except for dealing with the ocational rebelion.
imported_The Opressive Church
11-11-2003, 08:21
Its seems that Jah is insecure with himself and has to find followers to make himself feel greater like a guy with a small dick who buys a hummer. Jah demonstrats the same weakness and corruption of humanity so following him is futile.

no it is not. If you don't follow him you will simply die.


Hahaha! Didn't he say earlier it was a Religion that wasn't going to be like the ARchaich Christain "Follow or Die" Religions?
11-11-2003, 08:22
Its seems that Jah is insecure with himself and has to find followers to make himself feel greater like a guy with a small dick who buys a hummer. Jah demonstrats the same weakness and corruption of humanity so following him is futile.

no it is not. If you don't follow him you will simply die.

we all die eventually. y change what u beleive if ur just gonna die 20 years later
11-11-2003, 08:23
well, that is why we expect new members to slip up every now and then, so that is why we encourage people to have children. They will be raised into the teachings and will know the truth, and act accordingly. Well, maybe not when they are small, (of course a little kid would slip up!) but they will mature eventually.

"A tiny little death cult. This is vaguely alarming." Cardinal Richelieu said in a telex to Cardinal Frazer. "This type of thing must be dealt with as they crop up. However, let us here more about this 'date of obliteration."

Well, the day will dawn in Spain, and soon as the sun fully rises on 6/6/66, Jah will rip everything apart at the atomical level. You won't know what hit you. And that will be the end, as Jah will then scatter the atoms. But for those who belive, Jah will take up into his realm, right before the destruction.
11-11-2003, 08:24
OOC: I have yet to be apprised of this situation...

*Reads entire thread*

Okay.

IC:

TO: The Archprelate, or whatever you call yourself, of the Brethren of Jah
FROM: Cardinal Johannes Richelieu, Roman Catholic Church.

My friend, I would be pleased if you came to Roania to discuss with me this religion of yours. I find it fascinating. You may bring as many guards as you please, you have nothing to fear.

OOC: Answer, or I stop being nice. :)I'd answer, you really don't want Roania pissed off at you :lol: (especially seeing as he likes to fire WMD at people who annoy him)
11-11-2003, 08:24
well, that is why we expect new members to slip up every now and then, so that is why we encourage people to have children. They will be raised into the teachings and will know the truth, and act accordingly. Well, maybe not when they are small, (of course a little kid would slip up!) but they will mature eventually.

"A tiny little death cult. This is vaguely alarming." Cardinal Richelieu said in a telex to Cardinal Frazer. "This type of thing must be dealt with as they crop up. However, let us here more about this 'date of obliteration."

Well, the day will dawn in Spain, and soon as the sun fully rises on 6/6/66, Jah will rip everything apart at the atomical level. You won't know what hit you. And that will be the end, as Jah will then scatter the atoms. But for those who belive, Jah will take up into his realm, right before the destruction.

well if its 6/6/66 we got a good 63 years to relax
11-11-2003, 08:25
You can change the surrounding, you can change the body, but you cannot change the thoughts placed in that mind from years of exposer

well, that is why we expect new members to slip up every now and then, so that is why we encourage people to have children. They will be raised into the teachings and will know the truth, and act accordingly. Well, maybe not when they are small, (of course a little kid would slip up!) but they will mature eventually.

Children will beleive anything as long as its slammed into them for 4 years. For example, if you tell a child that 2+2=5 for four years, eventually he'll beleive that. your system is mearly mind control.

Mind control is necessary, because without it, society will simply corrupt itself. And besides, it is better than getting controlled by greed, or booze, or anger, or what have you.
11-11-2003, 08:25
now id love to stay and chat but i gotta log. later
11-11-2003, 08:26
well, the only reason he got involved with earth was because he saw that horrible things were happening down here and it really did grate on his concience. He had to do something to right that.

Destroying the Earth isn't doing anything but sweeping the problem away. jah has prooven his own stupidity!

But when he sweeps the problem away, it goes away permanently. How is that stupid?
11-11-2003, 08:26
You still have yet to say why hes allowed to interfere with us
he got the ball rolling, he started the processes that started the universe, and so on.
imported_The Opressive Church
11-11-2003, 08:27
well, the only reason he got involved with earth was because he saw that horrible things were happening down here and it really did grate on his concience. He had to do something to right that.

Destroying the Earth isn't doing anything but sweeping the problem away. jah has prooven his own stupidity!

But when he sweeps the problem away, it goes away permanently. How is that stupid?

You said yourself it was a never-ending circle. Humanity will re-create itself, and Jah will do this again in some million years, as he did some million years ago (As you say anyway... :roll: )
11-11-2003, 08:28
Gaia (the earth spirit for those who care) cannot creat, it can only support.

I never said Gaia created. For all we know, a meteor (or what have you), could have brought life to earth and thrived from there.

wrong Jah, u said ur self that the earth created humanity

yes the earth created humanity. without the earth, there would be no humanity. the meteor, or whatever, didn't bring humans, it brought the building blocks of life, and it found a good home and thrived, like a petri dish and e-coli. the petri dish helped create a colony out of a few e-coli.
Roania
11-11-2003, 08:29
<Took him long enough>
imported_The Opressive Church
11-11-2003, 08:30
Gaia (the earth spirit for those who care) cannot creat, it can only support.

I never said Gaia created. For all we know, a meteor (or what have you), could have brought life to earth and thrived from there.

wrong Jah, u said ur self that the earth created humanity

yes the earth created humanity. without the earth, there would be no humanity. the meteor, or whatever, didn't bring humans, it brought the building blocks of life, and it found a good home and thrived, like a petri dish and e-coli. the petri dish helped create a colony out of a few e-coli.

You're compareing humanity and the Earth to a small container, and Bacteria!?!?
11-11-2003, 08:30
OOC: I have yet to be apprised of this situation...

*Reads entire thread*

Okay.

IC:

TO: The Archprelate, or whatever you call yourself, of the Brethren of Jah
FROM: Cardinal Johannes Richelieu, Roman Catholic Church.

My friend, I would be pleased if you came to Roania to discuss with me this religion of yours. I find it fascinating. You may bring as many guards as you please, you have nothing to fear.

perhaps I might entertain your invitation. I shall have to contact my adminstration first.
11-11-2003, 08:30
Remember which God has been kind to you, and created the foundation of Western Society! Remember that before anyone converts!

Also remember that the Church has aid programs, that Cult does not!

Give me proff that your god cares or exsists and i MAY follow

wait until 6/6/66 and you'll see. Or maybe not. You won't know what hit you.

now ur merging cristianity with ur own cultist beleifs.

how?
11-11-2003, 08:31
Remember which God has been kind to you, and created the foundation of Western Society! Remember that before anyone converts!

Also remember that the Church has aid programs, that Cult does not!

Give me proff that your god cares or exsists and i MAY follow

wait until 6/6/66 and you'll see. Or maybe not. You won't know what hit you.


Bah, he just prooved himself as Satan for picking that date! 2 days later or earlier, no Satan remarks, but 6/6/66 prooves he's Satan! Jah is Satan!

I already pointed that date out as coincidence. Look at the beginning of the thread. Anyway, Satan doesn't exist.
Roania
11-11-2003, 08:32
OOC: I have yet to be apprised of this situation...

*Reads entire thread*

Okay.

IC:

TO: The Archprelate, or whatever you call yourself, of the Brethren of Jah
FROM: Cardinal Johannes Richelieu, Roman Catholic Church.

My friend, I would be pleased if you came to Roania to discuss with me this religion of yours. I find it fascinating. You may bring as many guards as you please, you have nothing to fear.

perhaps I might entertain your invitation. I shall have to contact my adminstration first.

Of course. Take as long as you desire.
11-11-2003, 08:32
There is hope. If you follow the teachings, and if you slip up, but sincerly try, Jah will save you. If you do not, you'll get ripped apart. It is that simple. Oh, Jonestown you mean? We do not belive in suicide, or killing. There is no afterlife, no heaven. We trust Jah to save us because we lived according to his wishes, not because we want him to pity us because we were cowards and killed ourselves.

Humanity are not cowards because we are still trying while Jah has just given up on us. That makes up better then him/her/it.

Jah hasn't given up on us. If he did he wouldn't be giving humans a chance to follow his ways.

since only 5 people will follow him, hes given up on 99.999999% of us.

7 million+ followers, or maybe 6 mil. Something like that. And he hasn't given up. That is why I am here.
11-11-2003, 08:34
I see... So a God suffering from Depression gives him the right to destroy an entire planet, and all it's creatures, just to feel at Peace with himself... Yes, sounds perfect, just like a 5 year old's logic...

Well why not?

Do i have the right to kill my neighbors because i get layed off? NO! your gods power has corrupted him. "absolute power corrupts absolutly" this proves it

did your neighbors cause you to be laid off? more importantly, did your neighbors cause you to be born? did your neighbors cause your whole world to exist? No.
11-11-2003, 08:35
I must log off now, please ask me any questions via telegram if you wish. It was good having this discussion.