NationStates Jolt Archive


Cloning Technology

08-11-2003, 11:21
Speech by Corlinan Secretary of Health and Humyn Services, Angliae Makato:

It is with great pride that I announce that, due to recent medical and scientific advances, the People's Republic of Corlina is now capable of cloning human embryoes. This allows our people to final complete the abolition of the patriarchal family structure and the phallo-centric social organization built upon it once and for all. For the first time in history, human reproduction and education has been put on a wholly rational basis, one entirely separate from human sexuality. We invite all sororal nations to tour our new facilities for the production and education of out future to see for themselves the liberation which the future holds.
Neralli
08-11-2003, 11:58
Might we humble nomads suggest that the Corlinan plan is incomplete? It seems to us that there is no actual separation of reproduction from sexuality occurring....
08-11-2003, 12:05
Perhaps we were not clear. We have begun, on a small scale, to clone human beings using spliced biological material from two "mothers". As our resources increase, we intend for this process to replace sexual reproduction in our nation.
Angliae Makato
Sagesquagmire
08-11-2003, 12:09
a nation such as yours would surely still be in the age of establishment... surely not capable of even the slightest research into cloning.....

just and observation...

maybe my nation is slow... but cloning is far from being a major scietific threory in my nation....
08-11-2003, 12:18
((Firstly, size and power level is by age and size and economy. Tech level is more subjective. Secondly, I didn't make this up, it's direct carry over from the actual game. Thirdly, it was my understanding, and has been accepted without objection for all the other nations I play on here when they first began, that the default starting point for nations was the present time give or take 10 to 20 years. I started all my nations around 1980-2020 except for one future tech nation and one miedeval nation which I play for something different. I've never before heard it suggested that starting nations would be incapable of modern research or had to start at the first inklings of civilization.))
Sagesquagmire
08-11-2003, 12:20
yes yes issue related cloning....

alright... go along on your merry way
Neralli
08-11-2003, 12:35
In that case, what we see as requirements for completeness are fulfilled. We thank you for explaining to us.
08-11-2003, 22:12
I wouldn't say the requirements are fulfilled just yet. It currently takes rougly eight hundred times the resources to articfically clone an infant as it would to take care of a mother during pregnancy. This allows us to use this process on a total of four infants in the entirety of our nation. While we believe the raising of these four children is the prototype for our nation's future, and expect this method to become affordable enough to be used as our principle reproduction method in time, we are not yet at such a stage.
Angliae Makato
08-11-2003, 22:20
Using cloning as a means to complete an agenda to abolish the family? This is an outrage. The Family is an essential element of life, and you are depriving your civilization of that. We demand that you rethink your plans, and recognize the true sacred power that intimacy brings, even the ability to reproduce.

Respond immediately, or we will be forced to enact a deadline.
08-11-2003, 22:36
The family is not illegal. It is rejected as a matter of cultural preference, not law. Our people don't want it. Any Corlinan citizen who wants to enter into heterosexual, monogamous marriage on a permanent basis and reproduce that way has the legal right to do so. Very few do and most of those prefer to move to a culture more suited to their lifestyle choice, however. It is not an essential element of our lives anymore and we don't want it to be. It would be appreciated if you would refrain from attacking the cultural practices of democratic nations with very strong human rights records.
Laura Washington, Secretary of State
08-11-2003, 22:36
The family is not illegal. It is rejected as a matter of cultural preference, not law. Our people don't want it. Any Corlinan citizen who wants to enter into heterosexual, monogamous marriage on a permanent basis and reproduce that way has the legal right to do so. Very few do and most of those prefer to move to a culture more suited to their lifestyle choice, however. It is not an essential element of our lives anymore and we don't want it to be. It would be appreciated if you would refrain from attacking the cultural practices of democratic nations with very strong humyn rights records.
Laura Washington, Secretary of State
08-11-2003, 22:44
Your culture is devolving, not evolving. You are degressing into mindless sex bots. The way you are treating these important elements of life is absolutely disgusting, and we are completely opposed to it, even if it is just a "cultural preference."

We demand that you stop bringing a bad name to such things as sexual intimacy and family nurture. We are deeply offended and will not sit by and watch you try to run these sacred things into the ground.
08-11-2003, 22:58
We do not want your help. We also object to the idea that we are "mindless sex bots", as you say. In the old days, such sexual exploitation was commonplace but the general sexual practice of Corline is a loving, nurturing relationship between two people. We do not want to live according to your miedeval lifestyle. Is this a threat to force the peace-loving people of Corlina into slavery, to force them to wed against their will, and to have sex with partners not of their choosing for the purpose of reproduction? While we acknowledge your superior military in comparison to us, we do not think the international community would approve of mass enslavement, force marriage, and subsequent marital rape. Again, absolutely anyone in Corlina is entirely free to marry and have a family. They don't want to.
Laura Washington